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Elvarien Caldari Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps	Posted - 2007.07.25 00:39:00 - [91] /signed its part of what makes eve ... eve. Things like that should stay. Hey I dotn want to get scuicide ganked but damnit I`l laugh about it if I am dumb enough to transport a ****load of bpo`s unguarded. >--- Witty banter.
frihetskjemper	Posted - 2007.07.25 02:17:00 - [92] Originally by: Kinomoto Sakura Originally by: Ha'Uler Suicide ganking has already changed on the testserver. CONCORD now instantly kills drones and deals much, much more damage. Fully tanked Domis survive for only four seconds, tops. BBUUUUUU, I like suicide ganking (not that i have ever done it tho, heh), it was funny as hell to read the weekly rants and whines, guess the whinage got on CCP's nervers, but imo concord should remain as it is now, voiding the insurance due to suicide ganking is a better "fix" for the "problem" I pay for insurance for losing a ship I want pay to me.
cal nereus Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.07.25 02:28:00 - [93] Edited by: cal nereus on 25/07/2007 02:28:09 /signed Feel free to increase the cost to the suicide ganker, but the possibility of suicide ganking in high-sec space should not be removed. I'm not a fan of suicide ganking in and of itself, but I'll be fine with it if it happens to me, and I'm in favor letting people have the option to suicide gank. Big part of the game is non-consensual PvP. Don't take that away.
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.07.25 02:36:00 - [94] I must have missed the post somewhere about risk vs reward. Whats the risk for suicide ganking again? Loss of ship? Thats not a risk.. thats a fact that you accept if you want to suicide gank... therefor dosen't count as a risk Loss of SP? possibly but only due to stupidity. Loss of reputation? Nope.. seems most are doing the wussy thing and using disposable alts. Still not seeing the risk to suicide ganking. I do see plenty of risk in hauling in a freighter but risk in suicide ganking?? Nope.. not seeing it Remove Concord payouts to suiciders Increase standings loss if they get concorded more then twice within a 5 hour period. That would be a start to the risk.. but nowhere near equal to hauling freight. ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master
Aceoil Murder-Death-Kill Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.25 03:01:00 - [95] i love suicide ganking
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.25 03:05:00 - [96] Edited by: Richard Aiel on 25/07/2007 03:08:26 Originally by: Frug Edited by: Frug on 13/05/2007 07:39:07 I felt the need to start this as a simple counter to that 9 page thread that might make it look like 9 pages of people agreeing with stopping suicide ganking in general (it's not but many in there say that). If I post there, I'll be undersigned, and I'm certainly not. First of all, to people who keep asking CCP to make high-sec 100% safe: HAHAHA. Right. What game have you been playing? More reasonably, people seem to generally agree on removing insurance payouts when you get concordokkened. Sounds fine to me. No arguments here. The point is being able to suicide gank people is FUN and often hilarious and this whole "It will scare noobs out of eve" mentality is all wrong. The only people it'll scare is people who aren't ready for Eve Online. I introduced 4 people to eve at about the same time. One of them was suicided for NO REASON on his FIRST F-ING DAY. You know what happened? Did he quit eve? No. He laughed, we laughed (one of his buds was there) and now it makes a great story to tell. None of us saw it coming, none of us has any idea why it happened, but all of us agree it ***s us up. And that's the point. It's gotta happen, and you've gotta learn to laugh about it, because it really is pretty f-ing funny. And if anyone ever takes the possibility for that fun away, I'll quit eve and take all my 231498751 accounts with me and sue you all for mental anguish. yeah suicide ganking is great.... Thats why you shoud take a ship to Jita, hang just far enough out so that you can fire S-bombs, yell in local "im quitting EVE and I got 5 nillion isk worth of stuff to give away". When the morons flock to you, let the SBs go boom. repeat Originally by:** RipleyII my goodness, you little suicide kings are all gentlemen philosophers. "I don't want to gank someone to hurt , no I just want them to see that EVE is risky". hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha yeah... if yer gonna support this have the testicular fortitude (or ovarian) to back it up with the truth lol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. We have never, nor will we ever, hack, ddos, or otherwise use OUT OF GAME means to gain ANY advantage.- Dianabolic
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.25 03:07:00 - [97] Edited by: Richard Aiel on 25/07/2007 03:11:10 Originally by: R3dSh1ft Originally by: frihetskjemper Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: Ryas Nia CCP nerfs empire again :( sad... All this will do is continue the trend of using NPC corps for large alliances to safely move goods around empire. CCP give us a chance to attack their logistics at least. This is meta gaming, and completely outwith your control. If you are using this as the basis for suicide ganking, then I'm sorely disappointed. You'll always have people with multiple accounts. Using an in game way to get at those accounts is pretty crap. Although I agree that using those accounts in the first place to move stuff around is bad. No way round it, unfortunately. Maybe use a way to prevent multiple account from the same IP address? ok can we get a banstick for this necromancer now its getting old do you get banned for necro? I havent yet an i been doin it a long time lol All I ever got that for was "misspelling" BoB... and "discussing the actions of a known hacker" which apprears to be invoking his name. Originally by: Kinomoto Sakura Originally by: Ha'Uler Suicide ganking has already changed on the testserver. CONCORD now instantly kills drones and deals much, much more damage. Fully tanked Domis survive for only four seconds, tops. BBUUUUUU, I like suicide ganking (not that i have ever done it tho, heh), it was funny as hell to read the weekly rants and whines, guess the whinage got on CCP's nervers, but imo concord should remain as it is now, voiding the insurance due to suicide ganking is a better "fix" for the "problem" Know what? If whining gets on CCP's nerves theyre in the wrong business, cause giving in to the whiners will kill this game. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. We have never, nor will we ever, hack, ddos, or otherwise use OUT OF GAME means to gain ANY advantage.- Dianabolic
Thales Archon Gallente Sector 7 Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2007.07.25 03:08:00 - [98] It be fun indeed
Cpt Fina Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.07.25 03:23:00 - [99] Don't fully remove the ability to suicidegank freighters in high-sec. Give the freighters-pilots the ability to sacrifice some cargohold to tank their ships (heavily). I also think that the the suicideattackers shouldn't get any insurancemoney so that not every freighter with a full cargohold (not much you can fill them with that doesn't cost more than a 700mil-1 bil) is a viable target.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.07.25 04:54:00 - [100] freighters will never get slots because even with stupid stuff like overdrives their cargohold will still be huge and they arent meant as a solo trading caravan they demand support - letting them stay in high sec is a blessing from CCP - the real way they are meant to work is having a strong escort with scouts and an alpha team in low sec or 0.0 so that any enemy scouts are destroyed and large fleets dont get alerted to possible treasure chests flying around ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried!
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.25 05:15:00 - [101] suicide ganking must stay or else newbies will lose another way to get rich quickly
Akelorian Caldari Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.07.25 05:18:00 - [102] /signed!
Saint Lazarus C R Y O FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.25 05:28:00 - [103] URAAALL TOURNAAGGMEEENNNNT!!!!!! ------------------------------
Ryo Jang Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.25 05:52:00 - [104] as a pirate myself, i am loathed to associate myself with the scum that suicide gank in high sec. not that they do it - go ahead and try. but dont try to change the rules to make it easier, and dont try to argue against ccp when they find a way to fill the hole that your latest fotm gank technique, that you came up with to get around the basic fact that high-high sec should be 100% safe. dont *****. find another way around it, and if that fails, find another way. you are being outlaws, and complaining when the cops tighten security. pityful. fortunately for the good of eve, the entire universe is not, and will not, be your personal gank playground. go play on the test server ffs.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.25 05:56:00 - [105] I got a great way to get rid of suicide gankers! nerf freighters so they can only be run in low sec 0.0 No more suicide gankers (other than griefers lol) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. We have never, nor will we ever, hack, ddos, or otherwise use OUT OF GAME means to gain ANY advantage.- Dianabolic
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.25 05:57:00 - [106] Originally by: Ryo Jang the basic fact that high-high sec should be 100% safe. You must be new. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Ryo Jang Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:01:00 - [107] no, my char is 2 years older than yours is. i have seen how this game has changed, noone ever used to whine about how high-sec is TOO safe, until the current breed of gutless suicide "pirates" did. grow up.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:05:00 - [108] Originally by: Ryo Jang no, my char is 2 years older than yours is I didn't say younger. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:12:00 - [109] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Ryo Jang no, my char is 2 years older than yours is I didn't say younger. You can still have an old character and be new you can buy characters in this game... Buy isks then buy the character... and you get posts like that one... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. We have never, nor will we ever, hack, ddos, or otherwise use OUT OF GAME means to gain ANY advantage.- Dianabolic
Ryo Jang Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:13:00 - [110] Edited by: Ryo Jang on 25/07/2007 06:14:29 i made this char. so... are you going to actually make a decent argument for your case, or just jab with strange personal accusations?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:19:00 - [111] My case? Hi-Sec has never been, is not, and likely never will be 100% safe, despite the fact that it could easily be made so at any time. So to call it a 'fact' that it is supposed to be 100% safe, suggests some level of unfamiliarity with the game. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Ryo Jang Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:23:00 - [112] pardon me, but i remember it being 100% safe. when noone would dare to attack someone else because their ship would be destroyed. that is when the system worked, and then people found that numbers + cheap ships == greater reward for little risk. so why complain when ccp fills this ugly hole? would you be complaining today if they had made concord deactivate offensive modules immediately upon activation from the very beginning of eve? probably not.
Skirge Minmatar Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:29:00 - [113] Edited by: Skirge on 25/07/2007 06:33:17 Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Ryo Jang no, my char is 2 years older than yours is I didn't say younger. You can still have an old character and be new you can buy characters in this game... Buy isks then buy the character... and you get posts like that one... I've played eve with my original main since late 03, and I've known Ryo Jang since late 04. Talked to him on voice servers since that time frame began as well; I can assure you he is a the same Ryo Jang as he always has been. Furthermore your accusing him of being a "newb" or a bought character instead of making a case or any sort of argument to what he originally said. It's quite easy to bust out with "OMG LAWL YUR A NEWB" instead of actually making a valid point or addition to the topic. Instead of trolling the forums why don't you actually attempt of making a contribution to the topic? Or would that be to much to ask? Now why don't you go ahead and do what you think you do best, and flame away at me for actually calling you out on your ignorance; I could really care less. As far as the original topic of this post: I agree with Ryo in a lot of respects but I also understand why it is the way it is. Concord is already the god mode police EVE. Their response time is insane and they even know where your warping to before you get there. However if you make them any stronger to the point that they immediately destroy anyone that break the rules in Empire; it would somewhat take away from the realness of it all now wouldn't it? CCP has done an amazing job with making CCP as realistic as possible without making it uptight with rules and boring. Though I have to say that losing a damn hauler because you lagged up after undocking from the station in Jita; then finally catch up to reality only to find yourself in a pod with 2 caracals on the killmail is pretty lame. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24,000 bytes - Tallan ([email protected]) Check out our video!
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:33:00 - [114] Originally by: Skirge It's quite easy to bust out with "OMG LAWL YUR A NEWB" instead of actually making a valid point or addition to the topic. Why would someone waste their time thinking up an intelligent reply to something that is no more than a ridiculous statement that was never true?
Skirge Minmatar Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:40:00 - [115] Originally by: Ryo Jang the basic fact that high-high sec should be 100% safe. Where in this statement does it say that it's supposed to be 100% safe? He's merely stating his opinion on the matter. Regardless, I'm done with this argument. Though I'm sure you'll have to add something else; feel free to add away so that you might get the last word in as you think you should. I'll go ahead and leave it at that. Have fun. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24,000 bytes - Tallan ([email protected]) Check out our video!
Ryo Jang Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:53:00 - [116] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Why would someone waste their time thinking up an intelligent reply to something that is no more than a ridiculous statement that was never true? well if you want anyone, especially ccp, to listen to you, youll need to put forward a decent arguement as to why you should be allowed to kill people in the designated safe areas. also consider this: what does the green light beside a high sec system status indicate? then what does the blue light beside a high-high sec system status indicate? if these systems were intended to be "slightly unsafe depending on the situation", shouldnt they look like slightly unsafe systems? why would they not be intended to be safe if they look safe? it defies logic from a game development point of view. obviously then, they were intended to be safe. so stop whining when they end your freeride.
Zilkin Amarr adeptus gattacus Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:57:00 - [117] Originally by: Ryo Jang Originally by: An Anarchyyt Why would someone waste their time thinking up an intelligent reply to something that is no more than a ridiculous statement that was never true? well if you want anyone, especially ccp, to listen to you, youll need to put forward a decent arguement as to why you should be allowed to kill people in the designated safe areas. also consider this: what does the green light beside a high sec system status indicate? then what does the blue light beside a high-high sec system status indicate? if these systems were intended to be "slightly unsafe depending on the situation", shouldnt they look like slightly unsafe systems? why would they not be intended to be safe if they look safe? it defies logic from a game development point of view. obviously then, they were intended to be safe. so stop whining when they end your freeride. Here is a another thread about suicide ganking Linkage Check the post #30 by Wrangler. He quite clearly says current system is working exactly as CCP intended.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.07.25 06:58:00 - [118] Why do you automatically assume I do this? I must've missed the memo that says blue means 100% safe though. Would it make you feel better if it were Teal? Would that mean 93% safe?
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.25 07:36:00 - [119] Originally by: Skirge Edited by: Skirge on 25/07/2007 06:33:17 Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Ryo Jang no, my char is 2 years older than yours is I didn't say younger. You can still have an old character and be new you can buy characters in this game... Buy isks then buy the character... and you get posts like that one... blah blah im prolly his alt.... other things to make you more butthurt cause i dont care... im out in a days and im not comin back... no you cant have my stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. We have never, nor will we ever, hack, ddos, or otherwise use OUT OF GAME means to gain ANY advantage.- Dianabolic
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.25 07:37:00 - [120] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Skirge It's quite easy to bust out with "OMG LAWL YUR A NEWB" instead of actually making a valid point or addition to the topic. Why would someone waste their time thinking up an intelligent reply to something that is no more than a ridiculous statement that was never true? because he's the otehr dudes alt and its important to him that his "honor" be maintained.... go RP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. We have never, nor will we ever, hack, ddos, or otherwise use OUT OF GAME means to gain ANY advantage.- Dianabolic

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