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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:33:05 -
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Hello insightful capsuleers! At the Ship and Module Balance presentation during Fanfest 2017 we discussed the plans for a major rebalance of Tech 3 Cruisers this summer. This segment is available for viewing on our YouTube channel if you missed it.
Following the example of the successful Tactical Destroyer focus group, we are opening applications for a new Strategic Cruiser Focus Group to help refine and improve the designs for this T3 Cruiser rework. The goal of the group will be to provide CCP feedback from a smaller group than the general EVE community for faster discussion with improved clarity. We want the group to be composed of experts from a wide variety of gameplay styles impacted by Strategic Cruisers so that we can hear as many relevant perspectives as possible. We will be aiming to form the focus group with between 10 and 15 members.
- We will use this forum thread to accept applications from players who wish to participate in the focus group
- The decision on which players are invited to the focus group will be made by CCP, with strong consideration given to recommendations from CSM members
- Active CSM members are all welcome to join the focus group either as participants or observers if they wish
- This focus group will not receive any secret information and therefore will not be required to sign any NDAs
- The logs of the channel automatically be published to the public for transparency. Everyone can see what is being discussed, but only focus group members and CCP devs can actually talk in the channel
- When selecting focus group members, we will be looking for people who can demonstrate the ability to communicate effectively and provide reasoned and calm feedback. We also want the members to have significant experience flying the Strategic Cruisers and to have strong knowledge of EVE gameplay, fittings and balance
- The focus group will take place in a Slack team, so members will need to be able to use Slack
- The focus group will operate in English, so although members of all nationalities are welcome they must be able to clearly communicate in English
If you think that you would make a good fit for this Focus Group please post in this forum thread explaining why you think you would be a good fit. Mentioning the kind of T3 Cruiser gameplay you are most familiar with can help us pick a group that contains a wide variety of perspectives. In your forum post please provide the explanation of why you think we should consider you for the focus group. Simply posting GÇ£Me!GÇ¥ or GÇ£Invite me.GÇ¥ is not particularly helpful to us when we are choosing the team.
Thanks, and we hope many of you will apply to join us for this focus group! -Team Five 0
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
14903
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:33:22 -
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Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
14903
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Posted - 2017.05.18 13:33:27 -
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Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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progodlegend
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
200
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:10:02 -
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I would like to be a part of this focus group. I have slack running on my phone at all times for work these days, so I will be much more active than before :).
Also since I begged for T3 rebalance for years, can I pretty please be in on the group?
Thx <3 U.da.best |
Timoxa Zero
Full Broadside Deepwater Hooligans
16
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:14:11 -
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Hi, I'm Timoxa Zero, CEO of a small-gang wormhole corp with a nullsec static.
We use T3s on a daily basis in a wide range of environments. Namely 100MN and Heavy Armor for Nullsec snd Wormhome brawls, but also hunting T3s and links in some of our larger fleets. I wish to see the interests of wormholers and small hang pilots represented in this focus group and I think I can bring good experience. |
raknor bile
Higher Than Everest The-Culture
11
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:16:15 -
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I would like to be apart of this focus group. i have had experiance with nearly all types of T3 fleets from armor lokis to 'slipery petes' and just about every other combination that has been used in fleet warfare including counter play to these fleets. I am a nullsec fleet commander with normal fleet size of around 100 pilots.
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Act-Mack PVT
Adversity. Pandemic Legion
22
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:16:33 -
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I would like to be a part of the focus group. I have had lots of experience with tech 3's in my time playing Eve online, even having my all time top ship being the proteus. I was a member to TISHU MKIV when we were one of the first alliances to adopt the hammercat proteus doctrine used by every alliance today back in 2013 and have seen multiple evolutions. I have flown everything from arty lokis to alliance tournament tinker tengu's. I can run slack or any program on my phone so I will always be available for discussion.
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Ultroth
Mind Games. The Initiative.
7
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:16:39 -
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Hi,
I would like to be considered for this focus group as I have flown T3 cruisers since their inception, both as solo/small gang ships and also within fleets of varying size, in both lowsec and nullsec.
Having played for 11 years I consider myself well versed in gameplay mechanics, ship fitting and general balance of ships and mods in various scenarios, am an excellent communicator and also have 24/7 access to slack, forums and reddit etc.
Cheers
"It's better to to stay silent and appear stupid, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt!"
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Lucia Denniard
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
28
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:27:14 -
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I'd like to be considered for this focus group, I have a few years of experience flying T3 cruisers in nullsec and wormhole space at scales from small gang up to strategic fleets, including unusual variations such as slippery petes and 100mn comps.
I'm generally around during the day and available on instant messaging platforms and have been involved in selecting comps/fits for alliance-level doctrines and alliance tournament comps. |
Capri Sun KraftFoods
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
79
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:27:34 -
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Hi I'm Capri Sun KraftFoods
I've been flying and FCing T3s in null sec, low sec and more recently w-space for over 3 years. I was also on the null sec focus group, so I'm already on the slack server.
The concept announced so far for the revamp sounds great to me, I just think there's a lot of number crunching and analysis to be done to make sure the balance is spot on. |
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Lemkor Gengod
Stacmon Production and Trade Institue
4
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:28:36 -
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Hey there
I would like to be part o the focus group for a completely different reason to most of the other applicants. I am one of New Edens most prolific T3 manufacturers producing in the region of 25bil of T3 stuff every couple of days and would like to give some input as to how the changes will effect us high end industrialists.
I am also partial to a bit of Rail Proteus Pvp on my PVP toon when I can get time away from the industry window :)
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frsd
No.Mercy Triumvirate.
5
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:33:41 -
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Hello,
I would like to be part of this focus group. I have experience in flying and theory crafting T3 doctrines for large and small scale fleets for multiple years. I am part of one of the few groups that uses shield T3s in large scale and we also use armor T3s as links, ewar and logi.
I am able to run slack and am available pretty much all of the time.
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Olmeca Gold
Pleonexium
103
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:39:19 -
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Hi everyone.
I would like to be a part of this focus group.
On my 10 characters across 4 accounts the single ship type that all of them can use are T3 cruisers. They are not only the main kind of ship I use, I use them in niche ways that I am guessing might be underrepresented in the kind of mainstream feedback CCP receives. Here are some of these experiences with T3Cs:
Nullsec DED runner hunting with a improved cloaky/mdw/nullified/drone/neut Proteus. Small Scale PvP with the same Proteus. D-SCAN and combat scan "whalehunting" in nullsec. Dualboxing Legion/Proteus to hunt j-space PvE marauders (and below). L4 FW mission running in drone/improved cloak/mwd Proteus. C3 PvE with Tengus. 100 mn wormhole baiter Tengus. Remote repair combat Proteus small scale PvP doctrines. Logi Tengus for blops hotdrops. Tengus with 6x faction scrams so your small BLOPS group can hold down a Supercapital. Cover Cloaky smartbomber T3s. Hotdropping covert cloaky T3s and then switching offensive subsystems. Null/WH hauling in T3Cs. T3Cs as ultimate scanners/explorers in J-space (e.g. having a fully skilled scanner toon in a Tengu with RSS probes, doing Ghost Sites in them). I even have a salvager/hacker Tengu to clear C5 data/relics after killing the NPC's.
My impression is that a lot of the discussion revolves around more mainstream uses of T3Cs, such as Slippery Petes or null/WH fleet doctrines, e.g. how they overshadow HAC's etc. But I also believe playstyles I have mentioned above should be at least part of the discussion when it comes to a huge rebalance, at least to make it as non-invasive as possible for playstyles that we want to keep being viable in the game. I believe I would be a good representative of these playstyles, hence a valuable source of feedback for this focus group.
Thanks.
Covert Cloaky FC. Sustainable Whaler.
Youtube channel.
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Compayn
Doom Generation Best Intentions.
4
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:41:21 -
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Hi I'm Compayn and would like to be considered for this focus group.
I have worked with T3 cruisers mostly in the context of wormhole space, where we use them on a daily basis in a wide variety of roles, and engagement sizes from small gank fleets to larger brawls and even for PvE.
My views would represent the middle tier of wormhole corps, who use T3s on a regular basis but lack the raw numbers that older, more established groups have, giving us a very different perspective.
I'm also currently working from home and have plenty of free time to be involved in slack conversations throughout the day. |
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance Cynosural Field Theory.
1248
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:52:30 -
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Put me up for this focus group.
My experience with t3s is primarily their usage as cyno hunter/scanner in low/null areas of space. As an individual who primarily uses capitals as main combat ships, T3 cruisers are an essential part of how I play. And as such I would like to see this 'support' role preserved and even extended beyond the current proteus/tengu setup.
Spaceprincess
People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
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Jonn Duune
Biomass Party
66
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Posted - 2017.05.18 14:52:58 -
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My name is Jonn Duune and I've been using t3cs since about 2010. I have several characters that are perfectly skilled t3c pilots, across all 4 races. I have used them in every role that they are capable of, from hunters, dps boats, EWAR, logistics in solo, small and medium gang PVP experiences. I have also used t3cs in PVE in nullsec and wormhole space, and understand how they work. In the utility roles, i have used jamgus (shield and armour), neut legions, covops scanners of all 4 t3cs, and have a very broad variety of experiences.
Also with experience in wormhole space is quite extensive, as I have lived in c2 through c6 space, and as a FC in spectre, I routinely fly, or fly with t3cs in a broad variety of engagements throughout eve.
I have connections to newbros who have just started the game, giving the ability to understand how t3cs feel from your newest players to vets such as myself.
You can see on my main, Jonn Duune, the times I've used t3cs, everything from links boats, to hunters, to small fleet, and i think i'd make a good impact on trying to bring t3cs in line with where they're desired to be in game.
My name is Jonn Duune, and I wholeheartedly support the message posted above.
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StarFleetCommander
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
307
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:02:05 -
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Hello all,
I would like to be considered to be apart of the focus group due to my experience Fcing and fighting tech'3s in null sec Back in TRI and in Verge Of Collapse ( Which was one of the first groups to actively used Armor Tech3's in null sec ) and more recently flying shield 100mn/Petes Tengus.
Also would like to take into consideration the impact tech3's could have on next years alliance tournament as they are all underused.
My Views are a general one, i favor balanced game play over everything. Certain aspects of the tech3's as they are now are either broken or just not used so i would hope we could get some great versatility from the new rework, to make tech's stand out as something unique.
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
251
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:06:13 -
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Hello I would be interested in being a part of this focus group. My experience in T3 Cruisers comes mainly from solo/small gang dedicated hunting/killing of PVE vessels as well as small gang PvP, both utilising unique T3C fits that push the boundaries of what is currently capable.
My view point would be as mentioned that of solo and small gang T3C use which i am concerned is an aspect that could be overlooked during the rebalance. I am active on slack as The Tuskers Co use this as our main form of communication. On top of my years of experience utilising and fitting these ships I would also bring to bear the wealth of knowledge from The Tuskers Co.
Thank you for your consideration.
Switch Savage |
Gremk
The Red Island Foundation Shadow Cartel
41
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:16:03 -
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I would really like to be apart of this group. I've done a lot of AT / TQ theory crafting for pretty much everything you can push out of a T3 (I think we have at least 10-15 different fleet T3 fits for various roles). I understand the ins and outs and the roles currently used for T3s and will do my best to help come up with something that makes sense going forward for these ships.
Environments in which I've used: Lowsec, Nullsec, Wormhole, Alliance Tournaments Use in TQ: Links (pre and post patch), Exploration, Hunters, Utility for Fleets, Main DPS Doctrine, Logistics Use in AT: Tinker comps, DPS platform (it has been a while)
I'm usually pretty good at understanding the big picture when changes are announced or being discussed and have a strong understanding of balance. Also, I'm already on Discord & Slack 24/7 so should have high availability via text.
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ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
366
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:18:15 -
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Throwing my name into the hat.
I have extensive experience using all flavors of T3s throughout wormhole space, and some in null as hunters or blopsing. I have been heavily involved over the years in changing and adapting all 4 cruisers for various uses in PVP, scouting, and PVE as the game has evolved. I consider myself well versed in the fits and doctrines that work, as well as why many of the subsystem/combinations did not, and hope we can succeed in getting a more balanced, and utilized set.
As the main bread and butter of wormholes, these changes will undoubtedly shake things up considerably, and I would like to make sure that all uses, are taken into consideration.
Event Organizer of EVE North East
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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
547
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:21:48 -
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Not me.
But, please don't fill this group with Strategic Cruiser apologists. You will accomplish nothing. I was not encouraged by your tactical destroyer rebalance. Certain ships in this game are still too powerful both within class and across class. I wont bother listing them because I believe you know very well which they are. So, here is hoping you have the courage to break out the Sledge Hammer or Battle Axe.
Tech III cruisers currently step all over tech I BCs and BSs. No reason to fleet those ships exists. The game is all tech III or pirate ship or go home. Hell, the old days of sniper BSs was better than anytime that has followed. At least with sniper BSs they weren't a monoculture. Now it is all Machs and Gilas and tech III cruisers and still svipuls etc. There was a brief flowering of mixed tech I cruiser or BC but that fell away quickly. Lastly, the damn Tech III cruiser subsystems still obsolete recons and command ships.
Why not address the ease of shifting the tech III cruiser transformability. That is what they should be anyway, right? One hull that you can tweak on the fly or without a huge fuss to accomplish different roles but not take over the niche of the tech II ships in those roles. Presently they do take over the niches despite your previous attempts, like with command subsystems.
I know your job is very hard. But please don't lose this opportunity to diversify the game. A focus group of tech III fanbois will accomplish nothing for the health of the game.
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
795
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:22:16 -
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Can you consider spliting focus group into four sub-groups one for each T3C, I know how to fly Tengu but have no idea how to fit Proteus for example.
"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
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Marciniusz Solo
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:24:42 -
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Hi, I would like to join the group to provide input on T3 Cruisers, as I gathered some experience over the years of using them. I have used them a lot for PVE, which would be my main focus, but also general PVP, including solo/small gang nano warfare or Black Ops hunting, and last but not least, exploration. My experience comes from k-space only, null sec at most, but also some of the low and high sec.
As of the rebalance, I would like to be a counterpart to most of the group that will be PVP-oriented, and give an opinion about PVE aspects and possibilities of the T3 Cruisers - not exclusively though, as I am able to speak about both.
Thank you. |
Kappa 4Head
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
7
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:26:29 -
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Hi, I would like to be considered for this focus group.
I've used T3Cs pretty much all the time for what is now my 2nd year in EVE. I've experienced and am familiar almost every PVP role they're capable of, including strategic armor, 100mn, long-range doctrines and logi, as well as nullsec high-end DED PVE. I am widely familiar with the topic of hunter T3Cs of all kinds, fits and sizes, which is in my opinion one of the most important roles these ships currently posess.
I would like to be a part of the feedback team as my gameplay is very tightly connected to the future rebalance. I'm available at all times during the day through slack and other messeging services. |
Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
164
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:36:50 -
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Hi there
I would line to be part of the focus group as well
I use T3 cruisers pretty often, mostly in pve. I have good knowledge of balance in the game and can help out with the good and bad things.
My uses were: Running c3 and c4 wormhole sites in a legion Running c5 sites in a tengu Missioning Hi sec exploration Nullsec escalation runs and much more
I actually never pvped with t3, but still from watching videos of people that pvp in t3 ships, I know some of the issues there. Examples are the cap stable dual battery blaster tengus that tank any gang without really having to worry about cap. But there are other issues as well in general, like fitting issues on ham tengu or the strong dependence of the pg subsystems. Also there are subsystems that dont make sense at all, like the dual weapon one on the loki.
I would like to be part in that group as the way I use them is strongly dependent of the future changes, also you have a player with over 8 years of gaming experience. Im available on slack mostly at weekends and evenings
i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183
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Rejuice K
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
23
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:46:13 -
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hi i would like to join
i have used t3cs in the following manners
blackops hunting blackops other things, dps, logi, links etc large fleet engagements small and solo engagements short ranged fleet logi running ded sites fleet support
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Wyld
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:52:40 -
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Hi,
I would like to submit my name for the focus group. I've played since 2004 - experience with a wide range of ship types, but the Tengu and other T3's have always been a favorite. My experience in these are almost all PVP ranging from the hunter tengu to the great Slippery Pete.
Looking forward to the concept of changes to the whole T3 world - there's so much potential that these ships offer it's a very large project to try to revamp them. My hope is that changes will provide a new challenge in Eve, while still offering a wide range of viability to players.
I am very comfortable with fitting and extensive use of pyfa to build terrible fits that get blown up in beautiful explosions (Imperium Anger Games)
Thanks for consideration for the group - I'll happily send slack details if picked. |
Thomas Lot
Astrocomical Warped Intentions
140
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Posted - 2017.05.18 15:54:01 -
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CCP Falcon and other Developers,
I respectfully submit my application for participation in the T3C Focus Group.
I am an active member of ProviBloc, serving as a line member of Warped Intentions and Elemental Tide Alliances within Providence. I have significant experiences with the Tech 3 Cruiser line, specifically with the Tengu as a Combat ship and PvE platform.
I will represent the interests of both combat pilots and PvE pilots using the platforms as either single player ships or as part of small group - large scale strategic implementation. I am open to listening to all opinions and play styles.
In my personal life, I am a Associate Professor of Mathematics at Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama, USA. I have significant experience participating in group studies and activities as a member and in a leadership capacity. I have 30 years teaching experience at the undergraduate and supervisory graduate levels.
I look forward to working with the group and with CCP.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Cpt Patrick Archer
Quam Singulari Triumvirate.
67
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Posted - 2017.05.18 16:19:39 -
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frsd wrote:Hello,
I would like to be part of this focus group. I have experience in flying and theory crafting T3 doctrines for large and small scale fleets for multiple years. I am part of one of the few groups that uses shield T3s in large scale and we also use armor T3s as links, ewar and logi.
I am able to run slack and am available pretty much all of the time.
I vouch for frsd, he's one of the smartest people I know. He has a lot of knowledge about why ships/doctrines work they way they do, and he is at the top of the TRI and Vanguard theory-crafting team.
He knows how to maximize efficiency within a ships parameters and will have the highest chance to find aspects that are potentially under- or overpowered. |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1289
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Posted - 2017.05.18 16:22:39 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Not me.
But, please don't fill this group with Strategic Cruiser apologists. You will accomplish nothing. I was not encouraged by your tactical destroyer rebalance.
the T3D changes were ok. capitals on the other hand lol |
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Tyler Burbon
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
1
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Posted - 2017.05.18 16:37:39 -
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Hi I'm Tyler, acting CEO of Snuff Box and I'd like to be part of this, I've been successfully designing and using t3 cruiser fits for many years and i know alot about their strengths and weaknesess. We are using T3 Cruisers on a daily basis, they allow us to project through wormholes because of their small mass and offensive and defensive capabilities. i see why t3Cs are too strong but i think we need to focus on faction BS too |
Ficti0n
Ultramar Independent Contracting
16
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Posted - 2017.05.18 16:40:05 -
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Hello,
I would like to join this focus group. Having played on and off for almost 12 years now and having seen T3s from inception and various balance passes I think I can lend some experience to this group.
I fly all 4 T3Cs on my characters, using them for PvE (tengu and once upon a time loki), Hunting/Tackle (Proteus/Tengu), PvP (all 4 over the years) and general travel.
I can see the need to balance them now though and I think simplifying the subs is a good idea although it needs to be done rather carefully.
Would love to lend a hand.
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Joan Andedare
Licence To Kill Mercenary Coalition
15
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Posted - 2017.05.18 16:53:03 -
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I would like to join the group.
I have used T3Cs for null sec pvp (and I've had them used against me/the fleet I was in), pve (mostly DED sites) and (something that hasn't been mentioned here a lot) exploration (and some explorer hunting).
Independent on whether or not I make it on the group: T3Cs are incredibly versatile ships and currenlty cover what could just as well be half a dozen ships (at least). This means that a large amount of more niche roles have developed for them, other than the "mainstream" ones. This is something I'd like to see preserved after the rebalance and I hope that these roles are represented in the focus group. |
StainGuy
EvE Elite Shitposters Club
0
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Posted - 2017.05.18 17:22:32 -
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Hi, i'm stain guy. Please consider Tech 3 lowsec stargate from Stain. Thank you. |
Havoc Ambramotte
Adversity. Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2017.05.18 17:30:19 -
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Throwing my name in the hat here,
I have been hunting extensively for the past 3 years using all types of T3C's. I have noticed niche role that Tengus and including some Proteuses have in catching carriers ever since the citadel patch due to the extremely high-DPS output from the carriers. In the past few months, I have caught heaps of carriers, rorquals, and other ships used for PVE and managed to survive for the most part.
My main expertise in using T3Cs would be hunting and scanning for quick ganks. I would like to be a part of the focus group. |
Vily
7th Fleet Corps Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2017.05.18 17:34:56 -
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I would like to be a part of this discussion.
I have been one of the most prolific FC's that has faced these ships at the fleet level for the last decade. I was the first to defeat a true tech3 fleet and have fought with or against them times far beyond counting.
This is a discussion worth having. |
Cephei Kells
Adversity. Pandemic Legion
41
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Posted - 2017.05.18 17:36:11 -
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I have no experience with T3s whatsoever but am willing to learn. I wish to train into one someday and so think my input would be crucial in offering this view point. The closest I have come to flying one before is when my corpmate helped me do an 8/10 complex which is harder than a 10/10 with a proteus and I was in a vexor navy issue.
This is why I would be a perfect candidate for these focus groups which attempt to incorporate all walks of life, Including those completely irrelevant. |
Asher Elias
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2017.05.18 17:52:01 -
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I'd like to be on the focus group.
I'm an FC for Goonswarm Federation. I host a podcast on FCing and fleet combat. I've been in all size engagements with t3s, from rail tengus with over 2000 people, 256 man armour t3 fleets, to doing solo roams with regengus and 100mn RLML legions. I've got over 1000 kills in tengus and proteus and 350 in legions. I've deployed to enemy space and lived out of mobile depots in a tengu fleets with my group Reavers for months at a time resupplying through WHs with blockade runners. I've done slippery petes and slippery boats (missile petes).
Like my post and I'll double your likes, Asher Elias |
Grella Khurelem
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2017.05.18 17:52:33 -
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Good morning,
Training into a Tengu was one of earliest tasks suggested for me in Eve Online. Since that time, I've trained into several T3Cs with various alts for PVE and PVP activities. Over the past few years, my primary activities with T3Cs has been in large fleet combat while currently working into more fleet support roles with them.
In the past, I used T3Cs mostly for PVE. When I arrived in nullsec, my corp used them almost exclusively for ratting. When I lived in high sec, I also used them for mission running and was involved in some early anti-ganking with an ECM fit Tengu. T3Cs are amazing ships and just want to make sure that even with a rebalance, they continue to be useful across different playstyles.
I have Slack and can have it on to be available as need. Thanks for your time and consideration. |
Benjamin Hamburg
SnaiLs aNd FroGs WE FORM V0LTA
70
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:02:11 -
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Hey, I would like to join the focus group.
As a little bio, I'v been playing since 2010 and got into NS and PVP rapidly. Through my Eve career I'v been playing in GSF, Nulli Secunda, Hard Knocks, and now I returned for the last year and half with my old bros in Snails and Frogs.
My gameplay with tech 3 cruisers is or have been:
- Fleet fight (NS blob, WH eviction, large fight, etc) - Small gang warfare (nano ****) - PVE (NS DED, solo C2/C3 farming) - Exploration
As of right now, my 2 main uses of tech 3 on a day to day basis are for small gang warfare and exploration which is also my main source of income through relic sites both in WH and NS.
I can speak english and french, and can use Slack as well. |
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Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
606
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:09:12 -
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I submit myself because I believe I represent a minority gameplay style.
I am a Legion and Proteus pilot. I fly almost exclusively solo, primarily for exploration, but also ratting and (in the past) missions. I see EVE as a primarily economic game and thus avoid generally PVP due to the terrible risk/reward ratio. This makes me a dedicated PVE pilot, but I'm no carebear. I've used t3c's in hostile space, including running pirate l4's in nullsec while under enemy probes, I dodge gatecamps and roaming gangs on a regular basis, I've used psychological warfare to suppress 30-man gangs all by myself, I provide my own transport and logistics, and do all of this while dying rarely enough to turn a large profit. T3C's are the single enabling factor that allows me to play this way. My main goal is ensure that t3c's remain useful for solo, deep-space gameplay during the required (and justified) balance changes.
Overhaul Dscan!
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Matrosov Glengoski Razyashchiy
Predator Squirrels Federation Brothers of Tangra
9
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:16:23 -
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Hello
I am Matrosov and am the corp CEO/director (ceo alt) of eve's finest care bear corp in drone space. I have been more of a care bear for most of my eve career, I know the fittings and the quirks of all T3 cruisers. From 100mn fits to covert blops fitting. For most of my eve career I have used T3C's for a lot of things, and probably the most used ship(s) I use today. I mostly use T3C's for pvp as of lately.I would love to be part of the group and have the time to do so. |
Silence Jin-mang
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
0
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:36:14 -
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Heyo pilots o/
So, I am no big name, no big wig, no I havent fc'd huge fleets, and no I definitely am not good at pvp by any means, but I think I understand t3c's pretty well. I've been playing for 6 years, and been using t3c's primarily for about 4 of those across mainly pve and wormhole pvp encounters and across 3 alts as well. I think I can bring a unique viewpoint towards this group with my use of them not as the typical pve monster or pvp fleet fit, but as the elusive scout that hunts silently for info and evades the detection of others through any means necessary. I know the strengths of their much less seen side of intel gathering and hunting, while also understanding what actually makes them stronger than most ships and combine the two to great effectiveness. I also feel, with a very extensive background in games development/testing, I understand the need for a check and balances, despite my love for the t3c, and I have already had ideas on how to rebalance the t3c to be a more jack of all trades, while preventing it from outscaling a t2`s specialization. That is the beauty of the t3c, is its ability to adapt to anything, but right now it doesnt have a huge set of downsides for that ability. Thus I want to bring more balance to the ships. Whether through buffing up underutilized aspects, to toning back the blatant power of others, as well as making all t3c`s equally viable in a variety of roles, over being slated to one or two specific roles.
I use slack on a day to day basis, and have no problems using it for this. |
Gedrick frogue
Heuristic Industrial And Development AddictClan
52
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:49:56 -
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I'd like to join this group as i use T3's on a daily basis for many different things
I've been rattling around eve since early 2005 and have covered pretty much everything that eve has to offer, so I believe i can give some well rounded input into the forum
Cheers
Ged |
Nikolai Mazinkov
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
11
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:50:49 -
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hola, yo soy Nikolai.
I would like to participate as someone with a broad sense of balance but also and appreciation for what makes each race and T3C unique from the solo, support, and mainline fleet perspectives.
My primary experience has been in the following areas:
BLOPS/Hunter Command Bursts Wormhole Space Dweller Solo PvP
The main things these I would bring to the table is a focus on:
Niche Roles and utilities that require a tight balance and fitting, especially in the solo, support, and scout arena.
The ability to be well fit for one role and refit for another that is part of this balance/change is huge in terms of wormhole and null life where logistics face challenges and adaptability can make or break you.
The things that make each race/T3C special, such as ewar, cap war, and tackle roles, a new look at drone options for the legion and proteus. This may also come into play when exploring differentiation & balance with T3Cs vs T2Cs.
And last, pew pew pew.
<3
"Momento Mori", Remember That You Must Die
www.rvbeve.com
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Eustise
Mass Collapse It Must Be Jelly Cause Jam Don't Shake
5
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:56:06 -
[46] - Quote
I'm sure you guys will get enough null and WH experts as well as PvE krabber expertise. Personally i'd want to expand the pool of veterancy by providing an unique outlook on T3Cs. I have years of exploration experience, using T3Cs as universal explorers, doing Sleeper Caches, traversing space and using them in a nomadic style, switching builds and fits to engage in Combat Sites, as well as Ghost Sites and the odd PvP.
Aside from that, i have vast wormhole experience in using T3Cs as well as in using them in large null bloc warfare. |
biggus dickus Aurilen
Real Life Outpost Solyaris Chtonium
0
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Posted - 2017.05.18 18:57:56 -
[47] - Quote
hello all,
A little bit of an intro of me, I started playing in 2012, and took a break till 2014 after i got back to give it a second chance and fell in love again. The first T3C i got in was a Tengu and i used it for running missions and some highsec sites. I learned about Bombers Bar and started hunting for them. This was the time first i used my tengu in combat. i moved quickly to null sec and thats where the game really started. The T3C is the bread and butter for almost everything in nullsec.
All the stuff i've done with T3C range from:
Highsec missions. Highsec, lowsec and nullsec exploration. WH space (C1 to C3) sites. Hunter Killer for multiple entities. Small gang PvP. T3C logi T3C links Large scale battles with T3C's.
By most of the things i've used my T3C i had to came up with my own fit, or modified it so that it suites me the best. For example, comming up with a viable proteus fit as a HK, that is just as fast as the feared tengu. I have had much succes with that and put the Proteus on the map as a hunting platform for BB and many other people.
The T3C is my second most flown shiptype in the game, and i think i would be an asset to the focus group in order to elevate the T3C's to a well balanced shiptype in the game. What I expect from the focus group is that they will balance out the ships, while keeping its versatility so that every aspect of the ship remain.
offcourse slack and english wont be a problem at all.
o7, biggus dickus |
Ailra Rai
Oruze Cruise White Stag Exit Bag
1
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Posted - 2017.05.18 19:10:23 -
[48] - Quote
I believe I'm a good fit for the group as I have flown and killed my fair share of T3C's
I've flown tengus and proteii in Highsec as a Wardeccer (Proteus was drone/neut fit and tengu was 100mn buffer before the nerf) I've participated in armour brawl fleets in lowsec with a Legion, in nullsec I flew unscannable(almost) rail tengus and 10mn ab rail tengus, 100mn heavy missile tengus and lastly I ran DED sites in my tengu.
I've killed almost every form of T3C you can come across, ratting fit, shield/armour brawl fleet ships, old links ships, scanning ships and the lists goes on.
I currently use T3C's (tengu mainly) for hunting PVE pilots in nullsec with a covert cyno
Between my two combat pilots I can fly all T3C's.
And I have over a 100 T3C fits saved in pyfa
I believe I can add positively to the discussion with experience and a lack of bias, so I'm excited to (hopefully) be a part of the discussion group.
I already use slack and have it on my phone and work PC, so I'm available the whole day |
Svara Eir
Hotline K162 The Clown Car
31
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Posted - 2017.05.18 19:34:09 -
[49] - Quote
Prefer not to pilot them on TQ but fly support for them on a near-daily basis at small gang and fleet scale with Hotline K162, and through the prior year at blobscale in 0.0. I have a strong understanding of T3C use cases in group PVP and solo PVP/PVE contexts, composing and optimising fittings for those use cases, and the relationships between T3C and player-defined metas as well as the overarching mechanics status quo evolving over time.
Rather than sitting here trying to stack up credentials/knowledge, which feels a bit weird, I am applying because I would be very useful in the "if-then" analysis process of mapping stats/bonuses to configurations, where we hopefully catch problematic insufficiencies, point out niche use cases (and assess whether or not they're wanted), and look at optimal or "good-enough" role fulfillment both in isolation and in the context of other ship classes.
Overall my strengths and concerns lie less in predetermining what T3C "should be" and more so in being able to contribute rigor towards a ship class that generates interesting, worthwhile, and healthy use cases by virtue of being well-calibrated.
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Jaiden Solo
ShekelSquad Interhole Revenue Service
2
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Posted - 2017.05.18 19:53:55 -
[50] - Quote
I don't want to be part of this focus group but I do think the vast majority of the members should be people who live in wormholes.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Singularity Expedition Services Singularity Syndicate
2144
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Posted - 2017.05.18 20:15:36 -
[51] - Quote
Whilst I don't have the experience flying T3C's to be part of the focus group I do produce them extensively. Please make sure the the economic and industrial effects are taken into account during these changes. Any changes in production will need to use at least the same amounts of sleeper goods if not more. Anything less will screw over one of the major income streams of WH dwellers. |
KadirTheDestroy TheDestroy
MASS A DEATH Mercenary Coalition
0
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Posted - 2017.05.18 20:46:53 -
[52] - Quote
Hey, my name is Kadir. The reason I want to be in the focus group is because I want to help balancing the game. In T3C the pros overshadows the con (SP loss) and there are specific modules used in T3C's because the Proteus Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer , Proteus Engineering - Supplemental Coolant Injector and [b]Proteus Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor [/b are just not worth to fit on the ship(sorry for specific picking the Proteus modules) I know this ship very well that is why i'm using it as a example. Other T3C's has modules a like but also they aren't used as much. T3C's can be used in any situation but you need to fit it specifically for it. It can be your command ship on WH space with cruiser size mass/sig, It can be your bait gaining more than 250k+ EHP its essentially a super HAC it can do a lot but if you lose this ship you lose a lot (SP)... that is why people use this ship for specific purposes because if you lose a T3C you have to buy a skill injector or wait 4 days to use it at its full potential. which sucks A LOT that is why you never see a T3C explore because lose the ship means losing hull value+skill injector if you goes over 1B if you don't have the patience to wait 4 days. it's small signature radius means its really hard to scan the ship like the slippery pete but that fit doesn't get used anymore. to round it off I would like to join this focus group to correct the flaws of the ship, i'm also for no SP loss when losing this ship I would like to see the T3C get balanced and see changes in subsystems so it doesn't get too nerfed that it wont be used anymore in pvp fleets but I would love to see more of a variety instead the mach and legion/proteus fleets.
If you took your time for reading this I appreciate and forgive my spelling/grammar pls no hate
P.S. T3C's are great ratting ships don't tell anyone about it ;) |
Jezza McWaffle
Foxholers Villore Accords
282
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Posted - 2017.05.18 20:52:08 -
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I have been apart of the capital focus group so I hope this does not discount me from participating in any other potential focus groups
I am a regular user, theorycrafter and FC of T3 vessels in PvP within wormhole space, while I have limited experience of null and lowsec I do understand the mechanics soundly and feel like I'm not simply an advocate of "don't nerf them for wormhole usage" but rather try to make them balanced for all areas of gameplay, or at least as much as possible without treading on the toes of existing ship lines (like HAC's and command ships).
In terms of theorycrafting I understand how hard it is to properly balance out major changed to tech 3 cruisers surrounding fitting room, subsystem changes and anything that involves the use of rigging in the short term. I feel that I can add my opinion and knowledge on how changes will impact the game longer term beyond simply "this fit here will become the new cookie cutter" as the meta of eve is hard to predict.
As I said I have been apart of the capital focus group and hopefully I have been of help within that group and would like to bring my knowledge and communication to assist this one, I understand the core purpose of the focus group is not so much to suggest changes to CCP but rather give well documented and reasoned discussion on their own suggested changes (see Naglfar powergrid as an example).
Thank you
Wormholes worst badass | Checkout my Wormhole blog
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HunterK en Daire
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2017.05.18 20:54:22 -
[54] - Quote
I am relatively new (1 year/4 chars) to eve but manufacture, PI, PVE, PVP and mine so would like to put in my shot that we should expand T3 to be able to support these roles better in lowsec/nullsec.
The T3 provides an excellent platform to add/remove mods for differing roles. I would like to expand this experience and scope to do as would be done in New Eden (faction ships): diversify.
1. Consider the T3 as a PI Specific fit carrier in lowsec/null.
2. Consider the T3 as a specific mining fit in lowsec/null.
3. The T3 has the ability to compete somewhat with the luxury yacht by increasing agility/ travel fit.
I do not see any of these roles being the deal breakers(ie overused) but the ability to use a modular ship in difficult conditions to access insecure locations will open new avenues.
With the tendency to blob with carriers now becoming common in lowsec it needs something to increase saftey options for PI/Manufacturing/Mining.
I believe this will allow the serious move of some more hisec people back into lowsec and allow us to add to the PVP/PVE that seems to dominate.
We could use O.R.E. to develop a separate ship or add new options/abilities to the existing modules.
This is not intended to be a solution but open the discussion/thought to expanding options.
It is for this reason i would like to join this debate. |
Xenuria
1122
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Posted - 2017.05.18 21:04:49 -
[55] - Quote
I want to be a part of this focus group. I have extensive experience with the proteus. I have run many level 4 missions with a officer fit proteus that garmon gave me.
CSM 12 Candidate
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Anthony Giola
Holesale Holesale Operations
3
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Posted - 2017.05.18 21:15:35 -
[56] - Quote
Tossing my name into the pool!
Bit about myself, I've piloted, FCed and theorycrafted fits for T3Cs across a half dozen characters for several years now, largely focusing on small gang and solo fitting needs for quite a while. Additionally, I currently manage the fitting for our corporations T3C doctrines. With us being a wormhole corporation the T3C is of course the bread and butter of our armor doctrine ships and require the most airtight fitting possible to eke out every advantage as well as "creative" fittings to fulfill a specific need or role that another ship may not be able to.
I have a long history of fitting, going back as far as I can remember in the game, and would love the opportunity to help our community take advantage of a rebalance of one of New Eden's most iconic ship class and help make sure that they are moved into a positive spot in every aspect of the game. There are many things that should be, and can be done with T3C's, but some of my most firm beliefs are in consolidating not only their ability to change fits on the drop of a dime, but to change roles as well. Whether those roles be an effective logi platform, cov ops scanner, fleet support, or damage platform; T3Cs are some of the most versatile ships in the game and making sure that it stays that way while simultaneously rebalancing parts of them that are too weak or too strong is hugely important to me. I want the T3C line of ships to remain versatile, but not necessarily overpower other ships in every single way. With the upcoming subsystem changes, this is prime time to help ensure that as a reality. As someone who currently serves, the idea of communication between peers to accomplish a goal is nothing new and I strongly believe I'd be a good fit to complement the goals of such a focus group. Thanks for your time! o7
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probag Bear
Xiong Offices
111
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Posted - 2017.05.18 21:28:21 -
[57] - Quote
I was told to apply for this because you "need a good indy/econ voice". I'm not entirely sure I agree with that assessment.
I'm probag Bear. I make T3C and T3C accessories.
My business model is flooding the Jita market with as much as it can handle, pricing my T3 goods at or under build cost. As such I end up producing a lot. Though the first part of May saw me fail to maintain my wall of sell orders (due to finals week), I've almost recovered it. Right now I'm flooding all T3 subs, T3 destroyers, Lokis, and Tengus. By the end of the summer I'll have taken the entire T3 market; just waiting on skill queues.
But again, I don't really think you need someone who's main experience is indy/econ. |
Cytherion
Critical Strike Alpha
7
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Posted - 2017.05.18 21:29:29 -
[58] - Quote
Throw me in the pool as well, I am an EVE veteran (experience since beta), triple digit skp
In Game: Extensive experience flying T3s and other ships that fly alongside T3s in teams like Command ships, recons, hacs etc. I believe you also need input from players who have experience flying many other ships and not just T3s because impact of T3s were seen game wide and across many ships. Changes to T3s would affect many other aspects of gameplay.
In Real life: Game design experience from technical design perspective as well. |
Seraph Essael
Anomalous Existence Spatial Instability
1251
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Posted - 2017.05.18 21:57:49 -
[59] - Quote
I would like to be considered for a part in this focus group.
I am a long time wormholer who flies a lot of T3s.
I have my go to ship which is a combat scanning, buffer Tengu. But I also fly other types such as the ECMgu and the Regen blaster Tengu.
During heavy armour fleets I will be found in a HAM Legion or a Neut Legion, sometimes 10mn sometimes 100mn fits. I have flown the Proteus, both cloaky, brick tank and also DPS buffer.
Overall, I fly, on a regular basis, multiple versions of each ship. Using a wide variety of subsystems.
T3Cs are a staple diet in many wormhole fleets (moreso than almost anywhere else) and I want to make sure that the wormhole community are represented, in a balance that will effect them somewhat adversely if we are not taken into account.
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Tiwaz Inkura
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2017.05.18 21:58:58 -
[60] - Quote
I'd like to be part of the focus group as well.
I've been flying a lot of T3C's in both Null and Lowsec, in fact they are my most used ships. I've flown them in most of the big fleet setting one experiences in either Low/ Null in most, if not all the usual configurations.
I'm also familiar with the PVE aspect of T3Cs, though my focus would absolutely be on the PvP focus of T3s, especially in regards to force projection via WHs and role as a mainline doctrine for serious fights.
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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
514
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Posted - 2017.05.18 22:37:28 -
[61] - Quote
I'm interested in being part of this discussion. I fly T3s primarily in solo / small gang wormhole fights. And fight against the same. I'm a non-certified EFT warrior, and enjoy long walks on the beach.
That being said, I'd love to help shape t3s and give feedback via experience and my mediocre math skills.
Best regards. |
Inquisitor Cerberuso
Noir. Mercenary Coalition
3
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Posted - 2017.05.18 22:59:17 -
[62] - Quote
Hello, I sincerely would like to be considered for the T3C Focus Group. I use T3Cs of all racials daily and have extensive experience of identifying usage deficiencies, fits and bonuses both in null pvp/pve, lowsec and empire space.
I'm also a keen baker and make awesome cakes. |
Mnemo Noire
The House of Asterion
5
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Posted - 2017.05.18 23:07:13 -
[63] - Quote
I would like to take part in the T3C Focus Group.
My experience with T3 Cruiser has evolved alongside my Eve Career.
Initially with running Level 3 & 4 Combat missions, progressing to Incursions. Then taking the deep dive into WH Space.
Alongside my T3C experience, I've also used HAC for similar roles.
The capabilities that I would like to see survive this balance pass would be the "Ship for every occasion" Experience I've had with them in the past.
Loading up your cargo with spare sub-systems and a refit kit, and then taking on combat/hacking/scanning in WH space for extended periods from home.
I also make extensive use of SiSi when testing edge case fittings and scenarios.
Regards
Mnemo |
Jack Miton
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
5003
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Posted - 2017.05.18 23:21:55 -
[64] - Quote
Would like to be considered for this.
T3s, of all flavours, have been my go to ship of choice for any and all roles since late 2009 when I started flying T3s in PVP and PVE fleets in C6 wormholes with fits that are still the basis for many wormhole fleets today (a clear indicator that T3s have never been all that 'strategic', something that should change). Be it melting face with a Proteus, popping Falcons with arty Lokis, kiting half a fleet in a Tengu or neuting dreads in a Legion, I've been there and done that.
T3s have been the bread and butter fleet comp for most of the corps in my EVE history and I have extensive experience flying in, with and against all 4 T3s, from 1v1 to large scale wormhole fights, with support and without, both from an FC and fleet member position. I have also flown them in kspace in small gangs and have used them for PVE, both solo and fleet, in wspace and out.
I also have experience flying a variety of T2 cruisers in similar roles and looked into the T3 vs. HACs comparison fairly in depth when HACs were rebalanced some time ago. I spend a lot of my time in a Stratios these days which has unfortunately made covert T3s obsolete, a fact I hope the upcoming changes address.
JM
There is no Bob.
Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
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Zaakary Montesquieu
ShekelSquad Interhole Revenue Service
0
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Posted - 2017.05.19 00:03:58 -
[65] - Quote
My name is Zaakary Montesquieu and I'm one of the USTZ Directors for the Interhole Revenue Service, one of the fastest growing wormhole alliances.
Our corp use of Strategic Cruisers focuses mostly on armor brawling for wormhole fights, with some scouting/heavy tackling included. My own personal experience with T3Cs centers mostly on Electronic Counter Measure cruisers and low-class PVE cruisers.
My main concerns with changes to strategic cruisers would be the affects to low-class wormhole economies and possible repercussions in the wormhole PVP meta. Changes to one of the most widely used ships would have far reaching consequences and I want to ensure any changes made are fair to all classes of wormhole.
Thanks for taking the time to read my submission!
Zaak |
Estilad Grenrum
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2017.05.19 00:51:33 -
[66] - Quote
Hi I'd like to be considered for the focus group.
I don't have a ton of experience with the loki or legion personally other than some theorycrafting, but I've used the proteus and tengu extensively. I got my first tengu a few months into the game and it was my primary money making ship for a long time and I know it very well. It has been by far my favorite ship in pvp, pve, and to theorycraft with since then, and I know exactly what it is capable of depending on how much youre willing to spend. I've also used the proteus quite a bit, though only for pvp and mostly in fleets, and my theorycrafting and fitting knowledge of it is pretty good.
My favorite thing about the t3s and the main thing I want to work towards with this group is the level of variations you can have in fittings. When fighting one you never know what could be coming at you and flying one you can change your fit super easily and you have a ton of options. I like what I've already heard about what you're planning, but I want to make sure as many gameplay options as possible are left open and that nothing is broken in either direction. |
QuickSwipe Collier
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
4
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Posted - 2017.05.19 01:31:32 -
[67] - Quote
I feel my contribution to the focus group would be valuable. Unintended consequences of seemingly minor changes have always been par for the course in Eve, but having a pair of eyes that can understand the wider implications of any changes is important to the bigger picture that is Eve. |
Jonatan Reed
Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED
95
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Posted - 2017.05.19 01:37:21 -
[68] - Quote
Hi, I would like to be a part of this focus group. I have spent many years flying T3s, since a few months since I've started playing up until now. I absolutely love T3s. The loki, proteus and tengu are all in my top 5 used ships and I have spent hours and hours theorycrafting t3s for fleets, solo and small gang pvp across all types of space. I have used T3s extensively for PVE as well when I was starting out in eve.
T3s need some of the most experienced love to make sure that they're not completely overpowered or completely anemic all while retaining their original intentions of being the most versatile class of ship in EVE. I hope I can be picked for a spot on the group.
ELITE PVP, WHADDUP
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Darius Caliente
The Pinecone Squad United Federation of Conifers
142
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Posted - 2017.05.19 01:39:43 -
[69] - Quote
I'm definitely interested in this. From hammercat fleets to the solo active tank proteus and the regengu to an exploration legion, I've flown all the T3s across multiple characters and I have thoughts on the good, the bad, and the ugly.
I'd love to contribute to changing the way T3s working and making gameplay more fun and exciting. |
Xan Pendragon
Transcendere
6
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Posted - 2017.05.19 01:50:58 -
[70] - Quote
"able to clearly communicate in English"
I know this is a spaceship game, but could we at least try to avoid the use of split infinitives? |
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sabastyian
Absolute Massive Destruction Test Alliance Please Ignore
30
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Posted - 2017.05.19 04:41:50 -
[71] - Quote
I'd like to be included in the T3C re-balance discussion, I've had alot of experience flying T3's from solo active/buffer 10mn/100mn/500mn to large scale fleet fights. I understand how certain T3's are more desirable over others, some of that is due to weapon systems and the current meta, and how the others are rarely used outside of a couple niche roles ( Loki. ) Ultimately T3's will need to be looked at as to how they will behave in all situations and I believe I could be of assistance in that regard. |
Sturm Gewehr
TURN LEFT HYDRA RELOADED
76
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Posted - 2017.05.19 04:48:43 -
[72] - Quote
Posting here to apply for the focus group.
My experience with flying strategic cruisers is in PvP in the solo to mid sized fleet range primarily in null/low space and in competitive play (AT 10-13 including AT 12 champion, Worlds Collide and other minor ones). Outside of tournament prep my experience is primarily with the Tengu, Proteus, Loki and I was a long time filthy OGB/probe/scout alt abuser.
I take credit for the Jackdaw reload reduction bonus idea and I have collaborated on several player submitted balance proposals. I am a long time avid, accomplished and creative theorycrafter who values the unique roles and player experiences that strategic cruisers offer.
I enjoy working as part of a team to create a healthy and productive atmosphere for the common good. I have no commitments that would prohibit me from being an active contributor and I am enthusiastic about participating.
I look forward to the opportunity to work with CCP and players from a variety of backgrounds to: preserve and improve the versatility and customization of strategic cruisers while reducing the amount of subsystems, open up design space with new and engaging bonuses and/or mechanics, and temper the unhealthy overlap between strategic cruisers and some other ships in order to promote a competitive and healthy ecosystem.
Thank you for your consideration and have a wonderful day. |
Makalu Zarya
The Maverick Navy Northern Coalition.
242
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Posted - 2017.05.19 04:54:22 -
[73] - Quote
sign me up and we can fly some 100mn AB tengues together :D |
Ele Rebellion
Fat Dragon Mining Co. Darwinism.
75
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Posted - 2017.05.19 05:13:20 -
[74] - Quote
I would like to join in.
On this character I primarily use the Proteus as a Cloaky Cyno Tackle.
On my other characters I use: -PvP Proteus -PvE Proteus -Smartbomb Proteus -PvE Tengu -PvE Legion -PvP Loki (Insta-lock Arty) -Black Ops Hunter Proteus
I have spent great deals of time living in: High Sec Low Sec (Traditional and Faction Warfare) C1 Wormholes C2 Wormholes C3 Wormholes C5-WR Wormholes
I have PvE and PvP experience in all Securities of K-Space and Classes/Flavors of wormhole space.
As for communication skills.. I speak English as a first language. I hold a higher leadership position in a multi-language low sec alliance and have held diplomatic positions with a number of corporations/alliances.
My current stance on T3 Cruisers is that I don't want to see any dramatic changes. I understand that in some aspects they are overpowered, but I disagree with many on exactly how overpowered they are. I do want to see their use as a major line PvP ship reduced to some extent, but without harming the niche roles that they often fill. Thus, I feel that I may bring some different opinions to the table. |
Kassimila
Macabre Votum Northern Coalition.
21
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Posted - 2017.05.19 05:21:24 -
[75] - Quote
I would like to be considered for this position. I've been playing the game off and on since 2005, have flown every strategic cruiser in various configurations. I actually really like to use a Tengu for covert scout/tackle. I really liked the concept of reducing the number of sub-systems, and making each one do more.
Some things I would like to see changed/things I would push for.
Skill point loss: I would like to see this removed from the game. While it was an interesting concept at the creation of T3 cruisers (and an excuse for them being better than everything else) if we are re-balancing them I think this should come out. There is no reason for only a single class of ships to have this feature.
Swiss Army Knife: The T3 cruiser line in my opinion should be a jack of all trades, master of none. Keeping that in mind it should be able to fill any role, however it should be worse at that role than a specialized ship. Perhaps the answer to solving this issue is not to nerf T3 cruisers, but to instead improve the bonuses on heavy assault cruisers. An interesting idea I have is also to reduce the size of the subsystems to allow the carrying of refits, or perhaps a specific 'subsystem' bay added to be able to carry them.
Skills should matter: The hull bonuses should matter. While less heat damage is...neat, shouldn't your skill in flying the actual hull make more of a difference?
Just a few of my thoughts on the matter. Thank you for your consideration. |
Sul Glass
Fat Dragon Mining Co. Darwinism.
63
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Posted - 2017.05.19 07:03:07 -
[76] - Quote
You can many things about Ele (most of them good btw) but he is an expert on T3's and capable of playing his part in a good discussion.
Sul
Ele Rebellion wrote:I would like to join in.
On this character I primarily use the Proteus as a Cloaky Cyno Tackle.
On my other characters I use: -PvP Proteus -PvE Proteus -Smartbomb Proteus -PvE Tengu -PvE Legion -PvP Loki (Insta-lock Arty) -Black Ops Hunter Proteus
I have spent great deals of time living in: High Sec Low Sec (Traditional and Faction Warfare) C1 Wormholes C2 Wormholes C3 Wormholes C5-WR Wormholes
I have PvE and PvP experience in all Securities of K-Space and Classes/Flavors of wormhole space.
As for communication skills.. I speak English as a first language. I hold a higher leadership position in a multi-language low sec alliance and have held diplomatic positions with a number of corporations/alliances.
My current stance on T3 Cruisers is that I don't want to see any dramatic changes. I understand that in some aspects they are overpowered, but I disagree with many on exactly how overpowered they are. I do want to see their use as a major line PvP ship reduced to some extent, but without harming the niche roles that they often fill. Thus, I feel that I may bring some different opinions to the table.
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USN CVN73
Militis Purpura Novum Voluptatis System Wide Adaptive Roam Massacres
39
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Posted - 2017.05.19 07:57:58 -
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I would like to join the focus group. One of the reasons is because although i have had years of experience in T3C's as many others in the community have, i also find that often T3C's are less utilized in small gang warfare, and more in your larger powerbloc sized or larger wh groups.
T3C's do not always benefit the smaller groups as much as it would benefit the larger groups. T3C's are more regularly utilized as long range combat ships and not really your short range brawlers anymore. True that the game is dynamic, and changes as time passes, but these ships can be used in very versatile methods as short range brawlers as well and should also be consideration for changes.
Often community members more in the small scale groups [usually 1 - 10 man sized fleets], issues raised are generally related to the loss of skill points. and various other issues related to smaller scale brawling. I also had someone make a statement about t3c's being as adaptable as the t3d's with clickable buttons to make the necessary changes as they would want it, instead of having to return to stations/citadels to switch out. With the immense versatility of t3c's there is a lot that can be discussed about it. |
Asm Nihouyah
Blackwater Task Forces Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2017.05.19 11:13:57 -
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I'd love to be able to help with T3 cruiser rebalance. I've been playing EVE on and off since the time T3s came to be, and I made decent amount of fitting and possible usage analysis and drafts, including doctrine designs using T3s as support ships, optimizing mainline T3 fits and using those ships as solo/small gang/dedicated utility ships.
I will stress parts of T3 cruisers that make them unique and special among all other ships:
Hull name gives you nothing: this was the premise when T3s were introduced - that hull itself would tell you nothing about what this ships role is, how it'll behave and what exact capabilities of the ship are. Min-maxed cookie cutter builds made it less significant part of using T3s, but - with a bit of killboard stats play - this still works in solo/small gang scenarios, when seeing your ship on dscan/grid still doesn't give enemy enough information to know what to expect. I feel like this part should be stressed even more, and T3s should be able to refit to counter almost any given setup when having enough time to do so.
You can overspecialize while gimping everything else: this is true to an extent for Strategic Cruisers now, and I think that all balance problems lie with not gimping everything else enough to make it work. There's nothing inheritely wrong with 700k effective HP nullified T3, as long as this ship doesn't also deal decent DPS at good range while having the advantage of range control. Unusual and highly specialized fits like fast lock alpha Loki, X-Large Shield booster Tengu or buffer Proteus should still be a thing, they just should come with more severe disadvantages.
Numbers tuning: T3 cruisers should be tuned first and foremost to Heavy Assault Cruisers and Recons. Current state of slightly worse, but a bit tankier Recons is acceptable, but there should be no way to create T3 cruiser fit comparable in all important parameters to equivalent HAC. T3 can be slightly better than HAC in one aspect (say, tank) while being clearly behind in all other aspects, or it can be much better in one aspect while sacrificing almost everything else to do so.
Covert ops subsystem: this is one of the uses that are unique to Strategic Cruisers - logistics bonused ships with ability to use Black Ops bridge, interdiction nullified ships with ability to fit covert cyno. T3 cruisers have a lot of options and possibilities enabled by covert subsystem in interaction with other traits; taking away any of those uses will remove entire ship role from the game outside narrow group of players willing to use and risk AT prize ships like Etana.
I want to see T3 cruisers becoming unviable as mainline ship doctrine, and instead taking place as either specialized hulls, or as tool to confuse enemy - when you compose entire fleet with Strategic Cruisers and make enemy guess what is the role of each ship on grid. For the last part, adding low significance bonus like full immunity to ship scanners - to make them even more unpredictable - would be great in terms of pointing out assumed ship use, as wildcard hull that can do anything, just not everything at once. |
Erebus 'TheChin' Sundance
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2017.05.19 11:55:19 -
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Greetings,
I'm not in a player corp, or part of a alliance, nor am I interested in anyway in being so, so I expect nothing other than disinterest from the majority of the player base that has interest in these changes, despite having the desire to be part of these discussions, with it limited to 10-15 people, I think we all now how pointless nominating myself it would be.
So I will write my 10 pence now and you can do with it what you will.
I live in high sec, and do lvl 4 security missions, combat/data/relic sites, C1/C2/C3 WH's and PVE in Drone/NPC null. I fly a Proteus, the legion is on the to do list but I find the other two aesthetically challenged. Though I don't consider myself an expert on their use, getting in and out of places like Cobalt Edge Bubblesville and not loosing a single ship to PVP or PVE in over a year of Null/WH delving, I would consider myself adept at best.
My concern is the representation, or complete lack of, of the gentle high sec player. Happy and free flying about doing their own thing with no interest in the distasteful meta game surrounding them. Those of us that like to just fly internet spaceships in hazardous high risk environments without having a small gang to hold our hands. How do we get our opinions heard?
I am really very concerned about potential changes that reduce the T3 cruisers capacity to be able to (a) get into the more dangerous areas of New Eden and (b) remain a devastating solo PVE machine.
T3 cruisers are one of the best ships for adventuring in J and Nullsec space. The only issue I currently have is cargo space. Once you chuck in a mobile depot and some modules to swap in and out you don't have much space left. For my style of gameplay It excels at everything else.
T3 cruisers are very attractive to the new player, like the candy on the top shelf, it's hard to understand what they are like until you finally skill up to be able to use one and fly it about. It takes a committed skill point investment and a bit of playing about to understand the subsystems and their effects but once you do it's jolly good fun. You also feel like you have reached a significant milestone on your journey through EVE.
CCP please consider this as It seems popular opinion that nullification is just bad. It might be the case that it is making it hard for easy PVP kills but weigh that against the simple truth that it is one of the only ways us brave and independent solo players can access and succeed at the more challenging "high risk" PVE content.
Thanks for your time and good luck with the focus group.
o7
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Ryac Sampaio
Gladiators of Rage Fidelas Constans
20
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Posted - 2017.05.19 12:14:15 -
[80] - Quote
I would like to put my name into the hat to be part of this focus group.
- I'm an experienced Nullsec Fleet Commander & CEO. I have flown both shield and armour T3C fleets on a myriad of occasions as FC, backup FC and as line member.
- Can individually fly and have flown all 4 T3C's.
- Very well versed, knowledgable and experienced in all aspects of PvP & PvE relating to T3C's.
- Very well versed, knowledgable and experienced in all aspects of Nullsec in general.
- Excellent tactician & strategist at micro & macro levels.
- UK National & have Slack installed on my phone.
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Sarwar Nazar
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
0
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Posted - 2017.05.19 12:20:35 -
[81] - Quote
I don't like the changes related to T3. Why not balancing T3 between each other. For example, Tangu with HAM can choose better damage against anything while Legion can only do em/th with energy weapon and less damage. Legion can only fight affectively against Sansha rats with main pulse laser but when it get tracking disruption your weapon range will become like 1000km and can't do a **** against the rats. However, Tangu HAM has no problem with tracking disruption because missiles is ******* op. Please make each T3 good and useful against certain faction rats so that it stop everyone to choose Tangu. |
Faltzs
Thundercats The Initiative.
19
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Posted - 2017.05.19 12:37:16 -
[82] - Quote
Hi,
I would like to be considered for this focus group. I serve as a member of the InitiativeGÇÖs FC team and have flown all T3 cruisers (and all manner of other ships) in both a PvP and PvE environments. Not only do I wish to see T3 rebalanced like many players do, I also want to address what I see as design inconsistencies for example the power-grid outputs from Tengu subs-systems.
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Cable Uta
V0LTA WE FORM V0LTA
9
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Posted - 2017.05.19 12:43:01 -
[83] - Quote
I am a Thera FC who use T3's almost every day, both in way of Hunting / ganking, aswell as fleet combat be it small scale, aswell as alternate tactics as petes.
Also have lots of experience in solo T3 usage, have well rounded knowledge of all the different ships & combinations of subs. |
Propolis
Hostile. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
57
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Posted - 2017.05.19 13:28:23 -
[84] - Quote
Hi CCP,
I would like to take part in this focus group.
I have a long history of pvp in eve dating back to 2004 and have both used and FC'ed T3C's/T3C fleets since they came out. I have FC'ed for most of the major PVP alliances over the years and been primary FC in many of them. Long term theorycrafter, including theorycrafting for multiple AT teams over the years. I believe I have a solid grasp on EvE's game mechanics and meta.
I won't pretend to have a clearly defined plan or set of ideas on how they should be reworked but I believe my feedback/input will be intuitive and valuable.
Obligatory: I use slack 24/7 for both work and eve, am available pretty much whenever I'm not actually asleep. |
Wynstone
Gray Space
0
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Posted - 2017.05.19 13:54:10 -
[85] - Quote
Hi Devs,
In the 9 years I've been playing Eve Online I have participated in just about all aspects of game play. My primary activity with Strategic Cruisers has been focused on PVE content from High Sec. to Wormhole space.
My goal for participating in this focus group would be to look at making all of the T3 Subsystems viable choices for configuring a ship for different roles. I would like to concentrate this on not just making the Strategic cruisers better role variants of of existing ships but possibly discover new roles for these ships which do not currently exist in game.
As mentioned many times before one of the limitations of a T3 Hull is the Rig lock-in. I believe this could be address by the creation of a Rig subsystems which could be swapped in and out like the other subsystems. I think it would be beneficial to explore the option of creating these subsystems and balancing them into the current ship hull and other subsystems.
I feel that Strategic Cruisers can play an important part in Eve without having the limited number of fits they currently suffer from and would enjoy participating in the process.
Thank you for considering my application for the Strategic Cruiser Focus Group.
Best Regards, Wynstone |
Frank Starslizer
Side Kicks The-Culture
0
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Posted - 2017.05.19 15:11:31 -
[86] - Quote
Started summer 2011 where I quickly got to play with low class wh residents because of real life friends. The first doctrine ship I trained into was a Loki that got replaced with a prot and the elite wormhole pvp dream was real. I also had an rr tengu alt for farming the static with the alliance.
Moved later to high class wh so the t3's could be backed up with more caps. Around the time when the new capital changes got clear we started moving out of wh space and had fun with fozzy sov and other small gang activities. Until ending up joining the culture 7 months ago where one of the selling points for me was that they had a armour t3 doctrine.
From my first loki up until now I have used all 4 t3's in most of their configurations, mostly small gang and some large fleet, the only area I have not used it particularly is solo pvp.
Except that just a pretty chill experienced slacker with t3 ships close to heart, but does not fear change.
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Lucy Callagan
Furnace Thermodynamics
266
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Posted - 2017.05.19 16:52:21 -
[87] - Quote
Hi, my name is Lucy Callagan.
I am a small gang focused pilot operating mainly in Null-Sec and Low-Sec space. I have been flying T3 cruisers for a few years now, on several accounts and in many different ways: old school links, hunter, small gang anti tackle, small gang DPS platform, small gang e-war platform and more recently: on grid links. This allowed me, I think, to gain a significant amount of experience in this domain.
From my point of view, in the current small gang environment, T3 cruisers lack engage-ability. A question which, I think, would be interesting to debate.
This is why I want to take part in the incoming focus group. I indeed think that my perspective and experience would be valuable to this group.
As an IRL engineer, I am also very used to working and thoughtfully tackling problems in a team. I also always try to assume and understand opposite points of view instead of standing up against it straight away.
I also have many contacts among the French community, which, I think, enables me to represent a significant part of baguette (and poutine) eating capsuleers.
Thank you for your time. |
Old Pervert
Perkone Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2017.05.19 17:58:04 -
[88] - Quote
Sarwar Nazar wrote:I don't like the changes related to T3. Why not balancing T3 between each other. For example, Tangu with HAM can choose better damage against anything while Legion can only do em/th with energy weapon and less damage. Legion can only fight affectively against Sansha rats with main pulse laser but when it get tracking disruption your weapon range will become like 1000km and can't do a **** against the rats. However, Tangu HAM has no problem with tracking disruption because missiles is ******* op. Please make each T3 good and useful against certain faction rats so that it stop everyone to choose Tangu.
I have a better idea.
Burn them down to the ground. All of them, all of their stats.
The problem is not and never has been that some T3s excel in some areas better than others, it has been that T3s excel in every area over every other ship in the game, save for a very select few roles.
Something that is supposed to be a jack of all trades but master of none should be a jack of all trades and a master of none.
If they're heavily tanked, their DPS should suck. If they're nice and ganky, their tank should suck. If they're cloaky, they should have ****** dps. If they're nullified, they should have ****** tank. |
Crystalline Entity
Outdated Host Productions Darwinism.
52
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Posted - 2017.05.19 19:07:00 -
[89] - Quote
Ele Rebellion wrote:I would like to join in.
On this character I primarily use the Proteus as a Cloaky Cyno Tackle.
On my other characters I use: -PvP Proteus -PvE Proteus -Smartbomb Proteus -PvE Tengu -PvE Legion -PvP Loki (Insta-lock Arty) -Black Ops Hunter Proteus
I have spent great deals of time living in: High Sec Low Sec (Traditional and Faction Warfare) C1 Wormholes C2 Wormholes C3 Wormholes C5-WR Wormholes
I have PvE and PvP experience in all Securities of K-Space and Classes/Flavors of wormhole space.
As for communication skills.. I speak English as a first language. I hold a higher leadership position in a multi-language low sec alliance and have held diplomatic positions with a number of corporations/alliances.
My current stance on T3 Cruisers is that I don't want to see any dramatic changes. I understand that in some aspects they are overpowered, but I disagree with many on exactly how overpowered they are. I do want to see their use as a major line PvP ship reduced to some extent, but without harming the niche roles that they often fill. Thus, I feel that I may bring some different opinions to the table.
I vote for Eli to help with this.
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White 0rchid
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
26
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Posted - 2017.05.19 21:19:44 -
[90] - Quote
Hi there
I'd like to apply to be considered for a position in the focus group.
While I am not a CSM member, I did apply this year and for my first run, I don't think I did too badly.
I have used T3s in many situations throughout my time in EVE:
C3 solo farming (legion/tengu) Hunting (covops tengu/proteus) AHACs (proteus/loki/legion) Exploring (tengu) DED running (tengu)
I also invest a large amount of time into theorycrafting and have helped design T3 doctrines for use in my current corp, SniggWaffe (in which I'm currently a director).
I am a very analytical person and like to think I consider a situation from all angles before committing to an answer, it's for this reason, coupled with my knowledge and expertise in using T3 cruisers, that I think I'd be ideal for this role. |
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Lexa Griffin
Hidden Flame
1
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Posted - 2017.05.20 02:11:06 -
[91] - Quote
Hello!
I'd like to be considered for inclusion in this focus group.
My experience with T3Cs is somewhat limited compared to many of the other applicants, but I am heavily invested in T3C hunting for Black Ops fleets. I also rat in a T3C and theorycraft a lot of different applications for T3Cs both in Kspace and Wormhole space for both ratting and PvP. My focus is the Tengu, but I am familiar with the other T3Cs as well.
Thank you for your consideration. Fly safe. -Lexa Griffin Hidden Flame Blops FC/Huntress for TORP Fleet |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
2890
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Posted - 2017.05.20 02:12:13 -
[92] - Quote
I'll throw my name out there as someone who has been using T3 Cruisers for a long time - in a variety of roles. That may not make me unique among Eve players, but I am also a reasonable player who works well as part of a team and can communicate clearly. Like many others, I am already on Slack.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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Catherine Laartii
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.20 07:22:57 -
[93] - Quote
Hello, Fozzie! I've waited years for this thread. :D
I'd like take part in this focus group to help represent the factional warfare side of this game. I have extensive experience using strat cruisers for solo work in every area of the game, fighting with and against them in lowsec, have been a rabid theory crafter for years, and would like to entertain and encourage out of the box ideas for refining and/or re-imagining how strategic cruisers work in relation to their impact on such a wide variety of roles in this game. I have a free schedule, and am willing to put in however many hours that would be possible or allowed to assist in this focus group.
Ex. for out of the box ideas would include discussing the viability of splitting current strat cruisers into 2 ships, changing the method/form subsystems take in relation to the ship, or simply playing devil's advocate in group discussions to highlight strengths and weaknesses of potential changes. |
Catherine Laartii
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2017.05.20 07:33:52 -
[94] - Quote
White 0rchid wrote:Hi there
I'd like to apply to be considered for a position in the focus group.
While I am not a CSM member, I did apply this year and for my first run, I don't think I did too badly.
I have used T3s in many situations throughout my time in EVE:
C3 solo farming (legion/tengu) Hunting (covops tengu/proteus) AHACs (proteus/loki/legion) Exploring (tengu) DED running (tengu)
I also invest a large amount of time into theorycrafting and have helped design T3 doctrines for use in my current corp, SniggWaffe (in which I'm currently a director).
I am a very analytical person and like to think I consider a situation from all angles before committing to an answer, it's for this reason, coupled with my knowledge and expertise in using T3 cruisers, that I think I'd be ideal for this role. I second anyone from a Snigg leadership position being put on this focus group. They've been reliable, solid opponents for YEARS, and are one of the few groups in lowsec i've run into that don't suffer catastrophic upheavals, and have a clear and level head. |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Mercenary Coalition
3184
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Posted - 2017.05.20 08:48:38 -
[95] - Quote
Hi, my name is Rowells and I'll be applying for consideration.
I've used and lead T3s in numerous different situations:
- Highsec, Lowsec, Nullsec fleets - Shield/Armor doctrines - Used in large and small fleets, blops, utility/prober/hunter, - Member of two different alliance doctrine teams (T3s being a common subject) - PVE uses including anomalies, missions, and incursions
T3s have been my bread and butter for the last few years and I don't think I can remember a time when they weren't in my hangar for one purpose or another. I'm quite certain we can mold these warhorses into to something that is still a reliable jack-of-all-trades while adding and maintaining plenty of uniqueness for them.
I'm already fairly active on slack and have personally always enjoy some good mental flossing with problems like balance and fittings.
As a side note: will this and future teams be using reddit for discussion like some of the previous groups? Or has that been nixed? |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3930
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Posted - 2017.05.20 09:48:49 -
[96] - Quote
don't know if i would be all to helpful over all but one of the main ships i have built into fleets over the last three years is logistics T3s for blops gangs i have a strong general knowledge of how they work but outside of this niche my experience building fits and flying them is limited.
BLOPS Hauler
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Sethris
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.05.20 10:32:56 -
[97] - Quote
Hi,
I'd like to throw my name in the proverbial hat as well.
I've been playing EVE with various levels of commitment in the past. I started in 2004 and have stuck around since then. There has been stints in alliances holding space in null-sec, I've been friendly with BoB back in the day, I've been against the Goons, I've been with the Goons. I've lived in W-space, I've been a miner, I've managed POS's, I've done moon mining on my own. I've flow in massive fleets. But at the moment I'm living in highsec taking it easy for the moment.
When I lived in a C3 Wormhole with my small corp we almost exclusively used T3's, they've seen usage in my service for exploration and various PVE experiences (incursions, missions etc). At the moment, I answer to the more casual side of the EVE community. My main activities currently consist of exploration (those yummy sleeper caches are too good to pass up on) and combat site PVE. So far the one thing I haven't done with T3 cruisers is PVP.
It seems to me that the majority of the respondents are from the heavy hitting core EVE community (Null-sec FC's, Wormhole corp CEO's and the like). But it seems to me that the more casual side of the EVE community is very often under represented, which is why I think there needs to be some counter balance. I'd happily carry the torch, but if there is someone better suited I'll let them step up - there just need to be someone representing them/us.
Anyhow, fly unsafe and never give up! o7 |
Leto Atal
LoneStar Industries Comatose Alliance
20
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Posted - 2017.05.20 16:59:29 -
[98] - Quote
I want to contribute to the T3 focus group. My play in EVE is centred around manufacturing and flying T3 cruisers, spending most of my time living inside wormhole space, solo or in small gangs. The Proteus is my current favourite (flew the Loki before that) and thanks to the recent module rebalancing effort active tanks can and do work well against sleepers.
I'm interested in ensuring that interesting fringe builds of T3 cruisers as they are used now remain viable after the simplification. Living in wormhole space necessitates the use of multipurpose ships and fits, especially for solo play where you have to do everything. T3 cruisers make this kind of play possible. A lot of recent changes have focused on large scale play which affect huge alliances in null sec. While that is important for a lot of people it would be a shame to lose small scale use of these ships to rebalance. |
Ardden
Critical Mass Project The Bastion
1
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Posted - 2017.05.20 17:18:07 -
[99] - Quote
I would like to be part of this. I've been playing eve off an on for a long time and would like to help contribute. I don't have a ton of experience with T3 cruisers. but I've been killed by them a few times. that counts as something. =) I feel I can bring a different perspective, more out of the box type of thinking, and hope to help bring them online with what people truly desire as a variable roll ship. |
Naye Nathaniel
Cobra INC Slightly Sexual
81
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Posted - 2017.05.20 21:31:31 -
[100] - Quote
Rly? you plan to break another part of working well game? |
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Ivo Cortes
Quam Singulari Triumvirate.
10
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Posted - 2017.05.20 22:30:40 -
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I would like to participate in this focus group because I believe I am very skilled at cloaked T3-Cruiser gameplay for scouting, scanning recon, and black ops hunter.
I am highly experienced in using Black Ops in a small-scale environment. For this purpose I have a T3 cruiser with a dedicated pilot who acts as my scout, cyno, and hunter. She is always kept around since having a T3 over a regular scanning ship brings many advantages and is very powerful. For instance, it can act as a platform to provide intel, to tackle targets indefinitely, or to provide crucial probing capabilities.
While I do have experience using a T3 in pvp fleet fights in both WHs and nullsec, I would like to stress that this is not what I regularly use a T3 for. My use for T3s is a niche and I deem it crucial for the health of the game to continue to have expensive scouts, intel platforms, probers and tacklers bundled together in one high end ship with many options to modify.
To conclude, I think I am best suited for this focus group because the development team should profit from my skillset in this particular area. I want the T3s to keep their 'general purpose' spirit and therefore cover the described area. |
Aleverette
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2017.05.21 03:08:52 -
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Invite assault frigates! |
Germaq
Shadow State Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2017.05.21 03:15:28 -
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I'd like to be part of this focus group. I have experience with T3s in small and large fleets, in both low and nullsec. I've hunted, explored, used one in nullsec PvE and highsec PvE. I've also run large T3 fleets. Most of my PVP experience is with a web Loki or FCing from a T3, but I also have Tengu and Legion experience and understand the overall T3 world.
I'm particularly interested in the support T3 roles (tackle Proteus, web Loki, ECM Tengu, neut Legion, etc.). I have slack active, can use it and speak English. |
Sarwar Nazar
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
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Posted - 2017.05.21 07:18:38 -
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Old Pervert wrote:Sarwar Nazar wrote:I don't like the changes related to T3. Why not balancing T3 between each other. For example, Tangu with HAM can choose better damage against anything while Legion can only do em/th with energy weapon and less damage. Legion can only fight affectively against Sansha rats with main pulse laser but when it get tracking disruption your weapon range will become like 1000km and can't do a **** against the rats. However, Tangu HAM has no problem with tracking disruption because missiles is ******* op. Please make each T3 good and useful against certain faction rats so that it stop everyone to choose Tangu. I have a better idea. Burn them down to the ground. All of them, all of their stats. The problem is not and never has been that some T3s excel in some areas better than others, it has been that T3s excel in every area over every other ship in the game, save for a very select few roles. Something that is supposed to be a jack of all trades but master of none should be a jack of all trades and a master of none. If they're heavily tanked, their DPS should suck. If they're nice and ganky, their tank should suck. If they're cloaky, they should have ****** dps. If they're nullified, they should have ****** tank. But Legion is been like this: heavily tanked while its dps is **** because its armour fit. However, Tangu is a master of all, that is why everyone are using it. besides if you want a good pvp T3, you need to spend over 1b isk for the fit. Because of this, not everyone want to risk it in pvp situation. |
Mar5hy
BLOPSEC Sustainable Whaling Inc.
5
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Posted - 2017.05.21 11:21:12 -
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Hey,
I'm a HK and FC for the NPSI community "Bombers Bar". I use the tengu / proteus as a hunter killer in many unique ways.
I would love to have a say on behalf of our NPSI community as to what happens to them.
Thanks Mar5hy |
Lugh Crow-Slave
3936
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Posted - 2017.05.21 14:10:38 -
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Naye Nathaniel wrote:Rly? you plan to break another part of working well game?
he knows we are talking about T3s right?
BLOPS Hauler
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Icarus Narcissus
Pathway to the Next Last Calamity
45
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Posted - 2017.05.21 15:31:51 -
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Hello Team Five 0, as a T3 producer and user, I am very interested in being part of this focus group.
As a tech 3 cruiser user, I do various activities Exploration, Wormhole Space Site Running, Brawling PvP, Cloaky PvP, and kiting PvP.
As a tech 3 cruiser producer, I can provide an additional viewpoint of what impact these changes can cause to wormhole space's PvE landscape.
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Maxwell DuSmart
We are not bad. Just unlucky
12
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Posted - 2017.05.21 18:38:24 -
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I think I'm not entitled to be included in the Focus Group. However I would like to suggest to focus the changes on the key strength around which the ship design revolves: flexibility and versatility.
The ability to be almost anything, in a reasonable amount of time (minutes), is a unique feature. Sometimes you need exactly that, a Swiss Army knife.
Iterate and improve on this. Things like a dedicated Subsystem cargo bay, being able to refit without a mobile depot (with usual restrictions), and "utility features" of the like would boost the unique gameplay factor and vastly improve the experience of us, the "swiss army knife" guys, without making the class overpowered. |
Chocolate Pickle
V.O.I.D. Shadow Cartel
2
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Posted - 2017.05.22 03:29:59 -
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I'm a relative nobody, but still going to throw my hat into the ring.
I use T3Cs for PVP and PVE. Primarily lowsec based. Small and large fleets. Low-effort gatecamps. I do missions and sites in lowsec because it's easier to not worried about being highsec capable. Also involved with T3C production on some alts.
The problem I see with T3Cs conceptually is that grouping subsystems by offensive, defensive, etc. just leads to people picking subsystems that synergize way too well. Reducing the range/diversity of subsystem won't fundamentally fix problems with the class.
Based on what I saw from the Fanfest presentations, I expect one of two things will happen;
- The changes will do nothing substantial, and T3Cs continue being over-represented,
- Heavy-handed nerfs will be applied, reducing T3Cs to irrelevancy, and screwing with w-space income.
Am a Slack nerd. I use Slack to manage an IRL amateur sporting organisation. Longtime #tweetfleet lurker.
Don't pick me if you want a yes-man. |
Titus Tallang
EVE University Ivy League
197
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Posted - 2017.05.22 08:31:35 -
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Sign me up.
I'm one of the primary fittings wizards for the E-UNI wormhole campus (C2 low-class wspace), so I bring a perspective from a somewhat unique area where we don't really care about abnormally sized buffer.
PS: I was (am) also in the capitals FG, so I kinda know how this stuff works already.
Director of Education - EVE University - http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/
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Ramius Decimus
Dominion Fleet
29
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Posted - 2017.05.22 23:52:43 -
[111] - Quote
Maxwell DuSmart wrote:I think I'm not entitled to be included in the Focus Group. However I would like to suggest to focus the changes on the key strength around which the ship design revolves: flexibility and versatility.
The ability to be almost anything, in a reasonable amount of time (minutes), is a unique feature. Sometimes you need exactly that, a Swiss Army knife.
Iterate and improve on this. Things like a dedicated Subsystem cargo bay, being able to refit without a mobile depot (with usual restrictions), and "utility features" of the like would boost the unique gameplay factor and vastly improve the experience of us, the "swiss army knife" guys, without making the class overpowered.
I concur with Maxwell DuSmart's points. Hope to see this group focus on general improvement of the Tech III cruisers with the goal of maintaining their flexibility and versatility; I absolutely abhor the idea of a major overhaul turning these cruisers into bigger 'tactical destroyers'.
I would like to be part of this Focus Group but I honestly haven't done anything spectacular with my Strategic Cruisers yet besides all-encompassing PvE (although given years of experience could consider myself an expert in that at least) albeit I do aspire to delve into PvP with them in the near future.
Rear Admiral
Commander-in-Chief
90th Fleet
Caldari Navy
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Mawderator
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
73
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Posted - 2017.05.23 17:21:38 -
[112] - Quote
If invited to the upcoming focus group, I would be an asset for the following reasons:
I currently use T3Cs in every terrain excluding high security space. I am active in groups that use these hulls all the way from solo, up to lowsec and nullsec fleet combat. In the past I've created niche tournament fits that were used to secure match wins. My specialty is looking at the implementation of new mechanics, modules, hulls and seeing how they interact at every scale from solo up to tidi-scale fleet combat. In order to accomplish this, I frequent the test server and use EFT/PYFA damage graphs to look for optimal builds for whatever scale of composition and use case I'm building. Any design implementation or mechanics I would put forth as a member of this group would be tested to ensure that they have healthy counterplay and are in line with your design goals for these hulls.
Thank you for your consideration. |
baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
18926
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Posted - 2017.05.23 17:53:44 -
[113] - Quote
I'd like to sign up to toss my pennies around on these ships.
I have experience with T3C from the dark days of the super drake (tengu from drakefleet days) right up to today's AHAC fleets. Flown with them in both large and small fleets and in a range of roles from DPS to tackle to logi and E-war support. I want to look at this rebalance from the view of the other ships as well as getting a few improvements to T3C (mostly getting them to be actually adaptable on the fly). Primary goal I have is to get T3C down to the level of cruisers and ensure they do not overpower the t2 cruiser "specialists". |
Old Pervert
Perkone Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2017.05.23 19:34:50 -
[114] - Quote
Sarwar Nazar wrote:But Legion is been like this: heavily tanked while its dps is **** because its armour fit. However, Tangu is a master of all, that is why everyone are using it. besides if you want a good pvp T3, you need to spend over 1b isk for the fit. Because of this, not everyone want to risk it in pvp situation.
Fair enough. You spend a billion isk on a T3C, I'll spend a billion isk on a battleship. Then we'll compare them in the following metrics:
1) Survivability in PVP (spoiler: the T3C will win, be it against the BS or against pretty much any other solo target) 2) PVE ticks (spoiler: the T3C will win, given that you can solo 10/10s with a single T3C and if a battleship can do it at all, it will be with warpouts) 3) Utility in PVP (spoiler: the T3C is BUILT for utility, though this is by design) 4) Mobility (spoiler: ...sigh, you get it already...)
There is one and only one metric where a battleship will beat a T3C, and that is raw damage against a sufficiently large target.
That the Tengu excels more than the other T3Cs is a red herring; ALL T3Cs excel over virtually all other ships.
Burn them to the ground. |
Smitty Uitra
Dissidence Dawn The-Culture
46
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Posted - 2017.05.24 04:49:31 -
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Looks like I'm fashionable late to inviting myself to this shindig. I have had experience flying all 4 strategic cruisers in hi sec, low sec, wormholes and now in null. I've used them in small gang, large fights, solo and pve. I'm a big believer of "if it isn't broke, don't fix it.". I think that there are a few things that need to be fixed with them but for the most part they are right where they should be. I also already have slack. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
14906
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Posted - 2017.05.24 15:56:42 -
[116] - Quote
Thanks to everyone who has applied so far.
We are currently planning on announcing the initial focus group membership this upcoming Friday, so if anyone else wants to apply please do so within the next day or so.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
3612
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Posted - 2017.05.25 11:52:39 -
[117] - Quote
I have been waiting for this focus group for what seems like forever. I used my T3 for exploration. While I am not as active as I used to be, I would like to toss in my ideas.
If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
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Bei ArtJay
Side Kicks The-Culture
154
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Posted - 2017.05.25 15:37:57 -
[118] - Quote
Hey there!
Please consider my application to be in the T3 Strategic Cruiser Focus Group.
Game design balance is something I massivley enjoy and have spent many, many hours creating and designing Eve Online tournaments for EVE_NT and other projects using basic game design principles that I have taught myself. I would relish the opportunity to be a part of a team that gives feedback on targeted proposed changes from a player perspective. When necessary I can communicate concisely and effectively as part of a team or on a one to one basis and enjoy reading about, and commenting on Eve Online. I would like to think I have an open mind and whilst I certainty have opinions, I try not to approach discussions with a personal agenda.
I have played eve online quite actively for over 7 years and flown Tech 3 Cruisers on many many occasions in a variety of roles including the following;
As a 'go to ship' for wormhole combat when living in class 2-5 WH's, flying on a daily basis in carious configurations, mainly as an FC in a Loki. As hunter-killer covert ops ships in both WH space and Nullsec. As a lowsec gate-camper for a small pirate gang. Fleet combat in nullesc - Loki artillery fleets, Tengu Rail/Missile fleets, Proteus/Legion a-hac style fleets. Guerrilla warfare style 'un-probabale' Tengu fleets. As an exploration/scouting ship mainly focused on probing and data/relic sites. As 'tinker' remote repiar logistics ships in tournament setting.
I am familiar with Eve Online PVP in many forms, from playing key roles in nullsec fleets, to small gang and objective warfare FC'ing and coordinating, to being a team captain and theory crafter for Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork tournament team.
Thanks. |
Newbowner1
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
0
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Posted - 2017.05.26 01:25:45 -
[119] - Quote
Hello, I wouldn't mind participating in this focus group since it's affecting one of my favorite ships in Eve. I run support with the Loki and use it for WH exploration, Tengu is used for PvE. I have been playing Eve Online since 2009 so I have decent knowledge with Eve's in-game mechanics and would enjoy giving some of my opinions towards these unique ships.
-Newbowner1 |
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1881
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Posted - 2017.05.26 16:42:04 -
[120] - Quote
Team Five-o wrote: The logs of the channel will be automatically published to the public on this website for transparency. Everyone can see what is being discussed, but only focus group members and CCP devs can actually talk in the channel We opened up applications for the focus group last week in this forum thread, and we want to thank everyone who put their name forward for the group. Unfortunately we canGÇÖt accept everyone or else we would have a group too large to be functional. The players we have selected for the initial round of this focus group are: Asher Elias Capri Sun KraftFoods Eustise ExookiZ frsd Icarus Narcissus lanyaie Lemkor Gengod Mawderator Noxisia Arkana progodlegend Rowells StarFleetCommander Sturm Gewehr Titus Tallang White 0rchid All of these characters will be receiving evemails from CCP Fozzie with information about how they can connect to the CCP focus groups slack team. We will begin the good work of the focus group as soon as we can start getting members online. Thanks for joining us today for this dev blog today and special thanks to those who volunteered for the focus group!
From the Strategic Cruisers and You Dev Blog.
ISD Max Trix
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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