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Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:12:00 - [1] This is an update on the situation and a summary of the previous posts as last time i wasnt aware of certain aspects of my post that were in violation of the eula so here is a correct version.. A short while ago Norman protector, a well known PVP'r within xelas formed a corp with his alt and added to it all the heavy-ratters (my non-allegation making term) that he knew from around fountain. A few weeks go by and people within the alliance begin to question why they are being used and that the killboards are showing lots of lost ravens and demanding an answer from alliance leadership as to why they are doing this. It was then explained by another member of xelas that the Norman was given to go-ahead by alliance leadership to form and use the corp and to spread the heavy-ratters around certain areas so that they can be used for intel reporting and that they were generating in the region of 500m to 1billion per day.. with an agreement that a certain amount of the isk was to be given to the alliance to fund projects Many xelas at this point begin to revolt saying unless it changes they are leaving.. Another member then posts to clarify the position: "Norman runs Doomsday; they're being setup now to live out of TEG-SD and the constelation behind 87XQ/J-RQMF. From this POS they'll be fighting Blood Crossing etc for ratting rights ( ), and all the isk they make from ratting (25% tax) is amounting to 500m-1b isk per/day. That isk is being pooled up for outposts; so despite what you all might think, they look bad, but they're actually funding our future infustructure, and at the current rate of isk farming they're doing, we'll see another outpost every month. " And now... The head of xelas wades in with a ridiculous response that doesnt make any sense and is basically a bs answer to try and fob people off.. which only annoys alliance members more. People begin to ask how this will look to BOB and maybe the alliance should think of that more.. arguing continues and is finished off with xelas leadership stating that they will be continuing with the current strategy and that the matter is closed for discussion. In other news... Naverin requests that proxay stop posting on forums as he makes the alliance look like fools.. which is subsequently rejected and then they question his own contribution to the alliance (forgetting that STC singlehandedly just built the alliance an outpost) Also proxay not being able to tell when someone is bs'in believes that someone in MC contracted cruel intentions to take out his billion(s) isk BS... Big update coming in a few days.. and some nice xelas dirty laundry to put out Working together to kill Xelas from the inside
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:22:00 - [2] zzzzzzz
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:23:00 - [3] Hi, welcome to 5 months ago? Youre not a very good spy... ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:28:00 - [4] I once killed an NPC and my corp had the tax to 100 percent and they took that isk and bought dancers with it. This turned entire alliance into an uproar, but not about my isk, about who got first use out of the dancers. Since it was my isk I felt I should go first, but Steel Rat said no and used them all. I am coming out with this to destroy Axe from the inside.
Neveren Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:30:00 - [5] Edited by: Neveren on 16/05/2007 13:31:49 Thanks for the sweet update. keep up the good work killing us from the inside Post thought, Our ratter corp is at 10% tax.. so your wrong again. that post about proxay was a joke.. I enjoy reading his posts.. Since you started this campaign to kill us from the inside.. We have established a Mega Isk building corp.. and I managed to put down an Outpost.. I think your failing sir. :/ STC recruiting!
HC MasiEEE Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:34:00 - [6] ________________________ HC MasiEEE - DICE
Dionisius Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:36:00 - [7] The guy has as much right to post in here as BoB/friends can make up alts to troll and post flamebait in the foruns. _______________________ What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Dionisius The guy has as much right to post in here as BoB/friends can make up alts to troll and post flamebait in the foruns. Nothing to due about rights to post. Its the utter garbage this guy spits out, I rather hear from the 15 news alts that don't know crap than this guy. He hates his alliance but wont leave. He claims his alliance won't defend itself, well I have been in fountain, Xelas do a great job. Do they have participation issue's. Yes. But tbh I think all alliances due at some points.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:41:00 - [9] I wondered about this last time. So xelas get in some industry guys to make some isk for the alliance. Where is the problem? Seriously solo, you need to pull your celest dudes out of xelas now, you are only embarrasing yourselves. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:41:00 - [10] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Hi, welcome to 5 months ago? Youre not a very good spy... welcome to 5 months ago? Hi, The corp was founded less than 2 months ago. Youre not a very good reader... Working together to kill Xelas from the inside
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:49:00 - [11] Originally by: DeathGrip Nothing to due about rights to post. Its the utter garbage this guy spits out, I rather hear from the 15 news alts that don't know crap than this guy. He hates his alliance but wont leave. He claims his alliance won't defend itself, well I have been in fountain I dont hate the alliance and secondly why is it utter garbage? The post is commentating on the things stated by xelas members themselves. I am a spokesperson for this organisation and nothing more, i personally dont actually care what they do Working together to kill Xelas from the inside
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:53:00 - [12] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: DeathGrip Nothing to due about rights to post. Its the utter garbage this guy spits out, I rather hear from the 15 news alts that don't know crap than this guy. He hates his alliance but wont leave. He claims his alliance won't defend itself, well I have been in fountain I dont hate the alliance and secondly why is it utter garbage? The post is commentating on the things stated by xelas members themselves. I am a spokesperson for this organisation and nothing more, i personally dont actually care what they do I don't hate the alliance. Take a look at your sig lately??? Why you trying to kill an alliance you don't hate. Second off it is utter garbage nobody cares what Xelas does to make isk. I haul POS fuel all over Eve, produce components, play with 0.0 markets, ran an IPO, and multiple other things. Should I make a Post all about it, should BoB, D2, -A-, RA, and every other alliance make a post how they make isk. Xelas has people that like to NPC. Personally I like the idea, let the NPC'ers help the alliance.
Angor The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:53:00 - [13] I agree with Orange... _______________________________ Who the f*k stole my sig...
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:54:00 - [14] Anyone wants to form a corp to rat for my corp, they are most welcome.. simply transfer the isk ingame to 'thoth foc' with the assurance that 100% of all isk will be used in corp projects.. kthanx _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
jarack Energy.	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:57:00 - [15] Originally by: DB Preacher I wondered about this last time. So xelas get in some industry guys to make some isk for the alliance. Where is the problem? Seriously solo, you need to pull your celest dudes out of xelas now, you are only embarrasing yourselves. dbp How to celes come into the equation when the corperation is sleeping at the moment. Get a clue Jarack.
Xeriuz Caldari The Puppet Masters.	Posted - 2007.05.16 13:58:00 - [16] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: DeathGrip Nothing to due about rights to post. Its the utter garbage this guy spits out, I rather hear from the 15 news alts that don't know crap than this guy. He hates his alliance but wont leave. He claims his alliance won't defend itself, well I have been in fountain I dont hate the alliance and secondly why is it utter garbage? The post is commentating on the things stated by xelas members themselves. I am a spokesperson for this organisation and nothing more, i personally dont actually care what they do so... actualy you dont hate and just dont care... right? then why are you trying to kill them from the inside and what are you actuly doing to do that??? hence your sig. so your just trying to keep you forum ***** alt alive and not forgotten rigth since you dont care? ______________________________________________ X You Never Know What You Have Until You Lose It
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Xeriuz so... actualy you dont hate and just dont care... right? then why are you trying to kill them from the inside and what are you actuly doing to do that??? hence your sig. so your just trying to keep you forum ***** alt alive and not forgotten rigth since you dont care? Just because i want them destroyed does not mean i hate them. I said i PERSONALLY didnt care. I am still the spokesperson for our organisation and will continue posting the results and updates on whatever it does irrelevant of my opinion. Working together to kill Xelas from the inside
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:05:00 - [18] Originally by: jarack Originally by: DB Preacher I wondered about this last time. So xelas get in some industry guys to make some isk for the alliance. Where is the problem? Seriously solo, you need to pull your celest dudes out of xelas now, you are only embarrasing yourselves. dbp How to celes come into the equation when the corperation is sleeping at the moment. Get a clue Because it was a celest alt put into xelas when they were up in fountain and because celest are sleeping, he has a chance to mess around on the inside now. I have plenty of clues and sometimes the truth is right before your eyes ;) dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Neveren Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:05:00 - [19] So its gone from I hate my alliance, I want to leave but my CEO doesn't want to.. Too, I don't care either way I'm just a forum ***** who doesn't care about anything i just post useless rabble.. Got it~ Thanks for the update STC recruiting!
Bloedkopp Minmatar Simian Cell Systems	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:11:00 - [20] Originally by: DB Preacher I wondered about this last time. So xelas get in some industry guys to make some isk for the alliance. Where is the problem? Seriously solo, you need to pull your celest dudes out of xelas now, you are only embarrasing yourselves. dbp post with your alt
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Neveren So its gone from I hate my alliance, I want to leave but my CEO doesn't want to.. Too, I don't care either way I'm just a forum ***** who doesn't care about anything i just post useless rabble.. Got it~ Thanks for the update Yes, things change. Many of our group have become happy with the isk thats made through selling your ratting positions for a cut of the loot. Wheras i have exams so do not care :) and not exactly useless rabble if members of your alliance are threatening to leave due to it. Working together to kill Xelas from the inside
Dionisius Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:14:00 - [22] Originally by: DB Preacher I wondered about this last time. So xelas get in some industry guys to make some isk for the alliance. Where is the problem? Seriously solo, you need to pull your celest dudes out of xelas now, you are only embarrasing yourselves. dbp Welcome to november 2006, its may 2007 wake up and smell the coffee. _______________________ What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
Shadoo North Eastern Swat	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:14:00 - [23] It's not a "heavy ratter" corp, it's an experiment to develop a new class of a stealth bomber, which will lay waste to an entire empire. They are simply using the force of a hundred cloaking ravens scattered in various systems to test the new prototype out of public eye. This is real doomsday stuff ladies & gents!!! Run for the hills!!!11one!!!
Ctharth M'8'S	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:22:00 - [24] Was this suposed to make Xelas look bad? To me it just seems that Xelas got themselves a nice system to support the Alliance with both intel and isk from the persons less dedicated to pvp. Sounds like good business. And congrats to xelas that they are able to do it now that the war against bob is going so well and the coalition are getting close to winning.... (being sarcastic :D)
Dhan Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:23:00 - [25] Enough. You've spammed this forum with too much of this. There's a corp spending with members spending 23 hours a day farming rats. We get it. It's horrible that they spend their time doing that. If they use macros petition them. Do if you have nothing to petition, get off these forums, mind your business, and quit generating new threads on this issue ever few days.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:30:00 - [26] Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 16/05/2007 14:29:56 Originally by: Dhan Enough. You've spammed this forum with too much of this. There's a corp spending with members spending 23 hours a day farming rats. We get it. It's horrible that they spend their time doing that. If they use macros petition them. Do if you have nothing to petition, get off these forums, mind your business, and quit generating new threads on this issue ever few days. Well youre not forced to read it so quit whining Working together to kill Xelas from the inside
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:32:00 - [27] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Hi, welcome to 5 months ago? Youre not a very good spy... welcome to 5 months ago? Hi, The corp was founded less than 2 months ago. Youre not a very good reader... Im not even in Xelas and i know where these guys where living and what they where doing before Doomsday corp was formed. You really suck a spy ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Dionisius Gallente Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:36:00 - [28] Question, are they macro farmers? If so -> petition. _______________________ What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Im not even in Xelas and i know where these guys where living and what they where doing before Doomsday corp was formed. You really suck a spy Well good for you. This is a commentary on an internal xelas discussion on the matter happening now, Not an investigation into them. No need to get cranky because the nice lady at the employment center said being a spy was the perfect job for you, people make mistakes. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.16 14:41:00 - [30] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: jarack Originally by: DB Preacher I wondered about this last time. So xelas get in some industry guys to make some isk for the alliance. Where is the problem? Seriously solo, you need to pull your celest dudes out of xelas now, you are only embarrasing yourselves. dbp How to celes come into the equation when the corperation is sleeping at the moment. Get a clue Because it was a celest alt put into xelas when they were up in fountain and because celest are sleeping, he has a chance to mess around on the inside now. I have plenty of clues and sometimes the truth is right before your eyes ;) dbp Tin foil hats!!!! Celes dont give a flying **** dbp, your as full of yourself as ever.

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