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Red Crown
Kudzu Collective
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.05.17 12:59:00 -
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Trying to condense what everyone has said...
1. The South is Deeper. Deep Cache, Detorid, Feyth/Omist/Paragon....Lower sec status, better stuff. There is just more space down here.
2. Faction Vs. Plexes : Up north, you have the Dread Guristas. Everyone knows their faction loot is worth far more than the souths, and is indeed more plentiful. Domination stuff is almost worthless for the most part sans their tackling equipment. True Sansha and Dark Blood are worth more but Angels are most plentiful. We do have plexes - but thats not making cash on an individual level.
3. Tough Vs. Easy rats : Face it, Serpentis rats are the easy. Can't say much about Guristas. But Angel and Drone rats are hard to tank and damage as far as rats go. Don't know about Sansha/Blood.
4. Drone Regions: This is why mineral prices have tanked.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.17 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 17/05/2007 13:08:26
 Originally by: Pattonator
We had a number of people who in a year of consistent ratting in Tenerifis never saw officers and maybe only a few faction spawns. In our first days in Stain we had a ton of members who got True Sansha spawns. I don't know if this is a bug.
I'd say intended. Stain counts probably as Sanshas main region like Curse is the main region of the Angel Cartel. In Curse you can get officers and triple spawns with the highest bounty in every system, no matter of the true security level. Once in Utopia I went with my ceptor to safe to scan for hostiles and there I had Gothan Kreiss in one belt on the scanner. That's 2 jumps into 0.0.
In other regions you'll get those npcs only in systems with extremely low security level.
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.05.17 13:34:00 -
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Curse isn't the only place where you'll get faction spawns at entry points. I have seen Cormack twice in D4KU.
The ridiculous amount of complexes, layout of lo-sec systems, station systems (before you could drop your own) coupled with the 15 jumps through low-sec Aridia make Delve unarguably the best place to live in Eve. However bob went down there before Blood Raiders decided to go live there and spawn 14 complexes or however many there are. Wait a sec...
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DB Preacher
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kinsy
Curse isn't the only place where you'll get faction spawns at entry points. I have seen Cormack twice in D4KU.
The ridiculous amount of complexes, layout of lo-sec systems, station systems (before you could drop your own) coupled with the 15 jumps through low-sec Aridia make Delve unarguably the best place to live in Eve. However bob went down there before Blood Raiders decided to go live there and spawn 14 complexes or however many there are. Wait a sec...
Actually, most of the complexes were already there. There was an additional 1 10/10 added, 2/3 6/10's and a bunch of useless low level ones (I think they were 4/10's).
Go back and check the data ccp released when they said they were adding new ones.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Feke
Artic Blue
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:05:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Chirinako
Also, if this was NOT a hit at Bob, then why is it posted in CAOD?
Because I wanted to know what everyone thought about how the current state of Eve might have been effected by what I brought up. Its a valid question and has direct connection to alliances and the way 0.0 can play out.
Think about it for a second and maybe you'll catch on.
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Fubumaki
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:10:00 -
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When you say north you mean; Tenal, Venal, Branch, Deklein, Fade, PureBlind, Tribute, Vale of the silent, Germinate.
Right?
So that would make the south; Fountain, Delve, Querious, Period Basis, Stain, Paragon Soul, Providence, Catch, Impass, Esoteria, Curse, Immensea, Tenerifis, Feythabolis, Omist, Great Wildlands, Scalding Pass, Wicked Creek, Detorid, Insmother, Cache and i also heard you mention New lands (87-1cw, lq-0qn, s-i6vu, g5kw-3, 7-kxbj, vu-wv2, 6hl8-l).
Ok so let me break out my calculator. That makes 9 regions for 'The Norf' and 27 for 'The Sowf'. Now for give me if im wrong, surely these two entitys can hardly be compaired to each other given the large size difference. Perhaps We need to look at the map a little different, possibly North/East/West/South would make more sence? If you were to look at it this way im sure you would see that the distribution of wealth a little more ballanced.
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AvanCade
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:12:00 -
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The zyd prices dropped like ppl have mentioned was due to the drone regions. However even with the drop of zyd prices other mineral prices have balanced it out and production cost remains roughly the same.
With regards to mining, i have never mined, however the npc faction spwns that drop better loot to money value are guristas.
However if you are looking to just make isks and pay for ship losses and skills, then this can be done anywhere in eve. I for one do not care for personal wealth as long as i have money to replace ships i am happy as a player. 
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Vashi Dokumentu
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Feke
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:40:10
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:35:53
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
u r just lazy, and dont want to do anything and want to get everything. It`s doesnt work here or in RL...
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:18:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 17/05/2007 14:15:58
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Feke
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:40:10
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:35:53
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
u r just lazy, and dont want to do anything and want to get everything. It`s doesnt work here or in RL...
It's a game god damn it...
Repeat after me:
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Vashi Dokumentu
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Feke
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:40:10
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:35:53
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
u r just lazy, and dont want to do anything and want to get everything. It`s doesnt work here or in RL...
It's a game god damn it...
who thinks like that - have nothing.....
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Dominixa
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:20:00 -
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You should probably contact Dianabolic if your looking for tenancy. If you scratch his im sure he will scratch yours.
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Beyond Horizon
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:22:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Feke
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:40:10
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:35:53
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
u r just lazy, and dont want to do anything and want to get everything. It`s doesnt work here or in RL...
It's a game god damn it...
who thinks like that - have nothing.....
I know I have fun, I know I don't want anything else from this game, I don't need space and I can live in npc stations np.
The most hated thing for me in this game is making isk though, that's really annoying, cause you gotta put real effort in it but in the end you get digital numbers on your wallet tab, but ofc it's not the same for people who make rl money by playing a game.....
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Vashi Dokumentu
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:27:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Beyond Horizon
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Feke
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:40:10
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:35:53
BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
u r just lazy, and dont want to do anything and want to get everything. It`s doesnt work here or in RL...
It's a game god damn it...
who thinks like that - have nothing.....
I know I have fun, I know I don't want anything else from this game, I don't need space and I can live in npc stations np.
The most hated thing for me in this game is making isk though, that's really annoying, cause you gotta put real effort in it but in the end you get digital numbers on your wallet tab, but ofc it's not the same for people who make rl money by playing a game.....
another lazy person......what can i tell ya my dear, probably only one thing - u have NOTHING
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Jack Cannon
The 5 Amigo's LLC.
NxT LeveL
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:31:00 -
[44]
Put simply, the southern regions were designed to encourage carebares to move 40 jumps from empire. If the southern regions were like all the others... who in their right mind would live in paragon soul when you could get the same stuff anywhere?
The north is a far easier place to live with regards to logistics. I do think some areas are short changed but to say there aren't any arkanor belts in the north means 1 you don't actually live there and 2 you don't actually know what you are talking about.
There is no bob conspiracy (as much as I like my tinfoil) they just decided to take the best area in eve. If you want to either (a) join bob like the fanboi you are or (b) take it from them.
 @ this post
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Logan Williams
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.17 14:43:00 -
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Edited by: Logan Williams on 17/05/2007 14:43:17
Originally by: Feke
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:40:10
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 10:35:53
First I just want to say this isn't meant as a place for people to flame so please don't. I want a genuine response from people on how they feel the things I am going to mention have effected and will continue to affect the wars that are raging on right now.
The south seemingly has an endless ability of making isk. Firstly the ore it is able to mine, namely Arkonor. Why is it that only the south gets access to these roids to mine? Reason this is an issue is because the price of Zyd, main result of Crokite, has gone from 4.5k/unit to barely 1k/unit. Crokite was and still is the main source of income second to ratting. Since the introduction of the new system in the south for dropped Zyd the prices dropped at a staggering rate to where its hardly a profit to spend time mining it anymore. But yet to counter this decline in worth CCP still has yet to provide other regions with Arkonor to spread the wealth around.
Yes giving other regions Arkonor to mine would then drop its worth and two wrongs don't make a right but something should be done to change it. Giving one region a monopoly over something while taking another region's monopoly away doesn't stand to benefit anybody.
Secondly the complexes that were farmed for months upon months for billions and billions of isk. Yes I know this was a bug but the amount of time and lack of involvement for the greater part of this by CCP allowed certain entities to take full advantage of it which most likely is still being felt today.
On top of that the south has more high isk making complexes than any other region in Eve. Why?
Last is the amount of belts per system in the south compared to other regions. This provides more places to strip mine as well as rat for isk.
This isn't directed as a BoB conspiracy theory so just don't even go there.
My sentiment is not just my own but that of several people who I have talked to from DIFFERENT regions. Ive also read other threads about this same issue but thought it should be revisited since I feel it has a direct connection with the current situation in Eve when it comes to the super powers who control certain areas.
Again if you disagree with what I have said then do it in a mature and grown up fashion and leave the flamings/trollings to a place where people actually care to hear it.
Losing my 0.0 isnt influencing this thread either. I've been wanting to post this for a long time and finally figured what the hell. I know regions get taken over on a regular basis in Eve, its part of life you could say.
<insert disclaimer?>
"This is the views of me and me alone. They're not to be linked with my Corp or Alliance in any way."
These are MY statements and not the feelings of my corp or alliance......
I'm originally from the southers area of EvE and all I can muster to say is.......STOP YOUR WHINING.
*CRY* The south has arkonor and megacyte has kept it's value better
*RESPONSE* Why weren't you crying when Zyd was so expensive? What's that, because the sheer amounts of Zyd the north could mine far outweighed the combined amounts of Zyd+mega that the south could? Awwww, poo poo.....deal with it.
*SNIVEL* The south's complexes were bugged, they made billions.
*RESPONSE* North complexes were bugged too. Had you have shown someone from the south a complex that allowed you in without taking your keys, they may have been jealous of you.
*WHINE* Give other regions Arkonor to mine and drop it's worth
*RESPONSE* You're just as homeless as I currently am, move.
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Jim Linger
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:04:00 -
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:newsflash:
this is not an accident, the point is to make some regions more valuable. Meaning; if you want delve, come get it.
The diversity is ment to start conflicts so even if there is enough 0,0 for everyone, some place is always in demand.
Think of it as king of the hill.
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.17 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Jodi on 17/05/2007 15:20:29
The reason Megacyte prices have remained stable is because you don't get much of it from Drone compounds. A recent refine of Drone loot got me 6k Megacyte but 31k Zydrine.
Yes, the Drone regions are the cause of the Zyd market crash. But we sure had fun for the first 3 months...Each rat was dropping 3-5 mill worth of minerals before the price crash.
Oh, and Drone regions the reason for Morphite price crash too. Lots of Morphite in the Rogue Drone compounds.
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Space Hog
NEW DAWN CO
Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2007.05.17 16:29:00 -
[48]
I have heard that if you hit CTRL + Q it makes arknor spawn for you. See if that fixes the ore issue. It also has been known to fix Recent Performance Issues. FIXIT had a suggestion along these lines.
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Posted - 2007.05.17 16:35:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Feke
Originally by: Abn Matar
Stuff
The opposite of North.
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 16:37:00 -
[50]
Everything is becoming randomized so it doesn't really matter. Belts and complexes are the key to making ISK in 0.0. With the upcoming changes of belts as well as complexes being random occurences, we'll no longer be looking at space as a static map of resources. The complex change is coming soon, which is great. But the removal of static belts is still something they probably won't have in for quite some time.
The changes are nice , however if they're doing it for a sense of balance they're a bit late for that. I personally look forward to the changes since 0.0 will take on a whole new aspect of exploration and add a lot of dynamics.
As to what you posted, Logan Williams, all I'm going to say is: Did someone pee in your cornflakes?
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Gardiner
Minmatar
Kurai-Komichi
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.17 16:51:00 -
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Rawr i dont speak as IAC dude, but as X SE X SA X Kurai....
You northern groups are a bunch of Naping Mofo's lol
Since day 1 the south is war zone and this is where all the action is.. So u speak of alliances whoring complexes and still feel it today?
lol i knew dudes from G alliance and others and all they ever done was alliance and corp scale complex whoring for faction bs bpc's and mods.. with no war on ur ass u guys should still be feeling the wealth.
99% of dudes in North couldn't lead a fleet anyways lol no wars = no experience = u be pwnt
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Pezzle
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 17:04:00 -
[52]
Well if I am in the south how come my region does not have Arkonor, or Crokite, or Bistot.. or umm.. anything really better than mining scordite right now? I demand more ore!
Mean asteroids.
Actually, keep your rocks. I hate mining :)
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Feke
Artic Blue
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 17:09:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Feke on 17/05/2007 17:09:00
Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu
Originally by: Feke
u r just lazy, and dont want to do anything and want to get everything. It`s doesnt work here or in RL...
Actually its not the case genius. I can put in 10 hours of work and get say 100mil in the North. But I went to the South I could get 300mil for the same amount of work. (Just throwing out numbers dont quote me like the idiot you show to be) How is that being lazy?
Originally by: Jack Cannon
The north is a far easier place to live with regards to logistics. I do think some areas are short changed but to say there aren't any arkanor belts in the north means 1 you don't actually live there and 2 you don't actually know what you are talking about.
There is no bob conspiracy (as much as I like my tinfoil) they just decided to take the best area in eve. If you want to either (a) join bob like the fanboi you are or (b) take it from them.
@ this post
Sure I'll accept the fact the North is easier to live in due to being closer to empire. Where exactly are the Arkonor in the North? Maybe everyone I've spoken to, and the residence from the south who have posted in this thread saying that no, there is NO Arkonor in the North or all idiots.....Or maybe you are?
I never said there was a BoB conspiracy when it comes to the south and if you'll read my original post it clearly states that. But then again judging by your immature and moronic comments I'll just take it that you're not capable of realising that. And how on Earth does bring this subject up mean that I am a Bob fanboi? If anything it would suggest that I didn't like BoB because I feel that had an unfair advantage.
Originally by: Logan Williams
(Cut to save room)
Insert: stupid comment trying to poke fun and talk **** on someone but failing horribly at it.
This wasn't a whining post. It was supposed to be a discussion about the distribution of wealth in eve and to gain the view points of others as to the viability of it being an issue. NOTHING more and NOTHING less. Simple isnt it? But yet you have to bring the ******** 4 year old comments into it. Good job you fail at life.  Why is it so hard for people to be civil and act their own age?
I ask again for the little kiddies to keep the flaming to another area.
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 17:12:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Gardiner
Rawr i dont speak as IAC dude, but as X SE X SA X Kurai....
You northern groups are a bunch of Naping Mofo's lol
Since day 1 the south is war zone and this is where all the action is.. So u speak of alliances whoring complexes and still feel it today?
lol i knew dudes from G alliance and others and all they ever done was alliance and corp scale complex whoring for faction bs bpc's and mods.. with no war on ur ass u guys should still be feeling the wealth.
99% of dudes in North couldn't lead a fleet anyways lol no wars = no experience = u be pwnt
You couldn't be farther from the truth. Well, ok, I can only speak for FLA/Deklein on this but for the past god knows how long there's always been someone in our space at war with us. I wish it was as quiet as everyone claims they think they know, but really dont. Our area is quite filled with pirates, well at least it was until the war started. Namely Tri and I'm sure everyone knows they aren't pushovers. We also had other groups such as the priory and even Burn Eden kicking around here.
I know the major entities up North are in the majority friendly to one another, but there was rarely ever a day where we didn't have to setup a fleet to protect our space from glory hounds and pirates stirring up trouble.We border quite a few NPC stations and just as everyone knows, those attract trouble. I'm sure even BoB knows the effects of open stations so close to home. Although I doubt many venture to go gang up in BoB space because, well, it's BoB's space.
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The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.17 17:20:00 -
[55]
What's a complex?
/omee
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Phaethon Prime
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:01:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Grim Faust
Originally by: Gardiner
Rawr i dont speak as IAC dude, but as X SE X SA X Kurai....
You northern groups are a bunch of Naping Mofo's lol
Since day 1 the south is war zone and this is where all the action is.. So u speak of alliances whoring complexes and still feel it today?
lol i knew dudes from G alliance and others and all they ever done was alliance and corp scale complex whoring for faction bs bpc's and mods.. with no war on ur ass u guys should still be feeling the wealth.
99% of dudes in North couldn't lead a fleet anyways lol no wars = no experience = u be pwnt
You couldn't be farther from the truth. Well, ok, I can only speak for FLA/Deklein on this but for the past god knows how long there's always been someone in our space at war with us. I wish it was as quiet as everyone claims they think they know, but really dont. Our area is quite filled with pirates, well at least it was until the war started. Namely Tri and I'm sure everyone knows they aren't pushovers. We also had other groups such as the priory and even Burn Eden kicking around here.
I know the major entities up North are in the majority friendly to one another, but there was rarely ever a day where we didn't have to setup a fleet to protect our space from glory hounds and pirates stirring up trouble.We border quite a few NPC stations and just as everyone knows, those attract trouble. I'm sure even BoB knows the effects of open stations so close to home. Although I doubt many venture to go gang up in BoB space because, well, it's BoB's space.
Not to be unkind, but you illustrated the difference right there. Sure, every region in the game is going to have some roving gangs, some gankers, some campers. But the scale and intensity of combat in the south over the last year is just on a different level than you describe. The LV/KOS/V/CHIMP/Etc vs. RA/Etc conflict insured that there were always fleet battles going on, there were always POS attack/defense ops going on, there were always stations (friendly or unfriendly) under threat. The amount and type of training people got from those constant operations both instilled a basic level of strategic-pvp-competence in most everyone who participated and also was a mill for turning out quality FCs.
There is a reason that the southern theater has been relatively deadlocked while the northern forces have (to date) been rolled backwards at a decent clip.
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Doddy on 17/05/2007 18:08:57
Originally by: Pattonator
First of all not sure that this thread is in the right place but I'll comment anyway.
Having lived in Tenerifis, Stain and now Deklein I can make a few comments. Tenerifis had some great availability of Crimson Ark. You could also chain quite a few triple Angel BS spawns and make a decent flow of ISk. However what we noticed is that despite similar true sec status the percentage of people whoever saw officer or faction spawns was pretty low. We had a number of people who in a year of consistent ratting in Tenerifis never saw officers and maybe only a few faction spawns. In our first days in Stain we had a ton of members who got True Sansha spawns. I don't know if this is a bug.
Officer spawn rates are higher in the npc fctions home region (in this case stain) I have had 4 officers in my time, all 4 were in -0.01 true sec (should be crap), 3 of these were in fountain, one in stain. Been living in esoteria 6 months now and no one in my corp has had one yet  To keep this on topic, i live in "the south" and i dont get ark! should i petition?
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Phaethon Prime
Not to be unkind, but you illustrated the difference right there. Sure, every region in the game is going to have some roving gangs, some gankers, some campers. But the scale and intensity of combat in the south over the last year is just on a different level than you describe. The LV/KOS/V/CHIMP/Etc vs. RA/Etc conflict insured that there were always fleet battles going on, there were always POS attack/defense ops going on, there were always stations (friendly or unfriendly) under threat. The amount and type of training people got from those constant operations both instilled a basic level of strategic-pvp-competence in most everyone who participated and also was a mill for turning out quality FCs.
There is a reason that the southern theater has been relatively deadlocked while the northern forces have (to date) been rolled backwards at a decent clip.
The northern forces that have lost space are (to date) FLA and IRON. Being that IRON gave up their stations without a fight, doesn't leave much room there to talk about losses. That would leave FLA. (Of the 2 groups that have lost space) Like I noted, we've always had someone fighting against us. We're not only part of the gateway to the north, but we also neighbour one of the bigger pirated areas in the game. Our area is not the cakewalk everyone thinks it is. Why do you think FLA put up such a fight with MC and friends? Once again, I'm speaking of the Deklein area because I've never really left it due to the fact that we've almost constantly been on the defensive and needed combat pilots.
No, there isn't a comparison though to the North and South in regards to combat. I wasn't even speaking of the south either so I'm not sure why you brought that up. This is one of those age old subjects though and the only real truth that comes from it is that no one knows aside the people that live where they live.
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Morris Falter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:42:00 -
[59]
I heard that the north's exploration opportunities weren't being exploited properly.. no idea if that's true or not.. just something on the grapevine.
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kye Kenshin
Lol, the North enjoyed a very long period of stability (longer then was healthy) and high zyd prices so stop crying.
I had 2 covetor's and 3 retrievers. Funny enough if I took a different one out for every time I mined over the course of the year or so we were in Deklein, I would never have used them all. Not everyone in the north was a carebearing miner. I'm sure it's not hard to understand that mining is quite simply boring for a lot of us.
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