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DNSBlackknight
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:25:00 -
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Well I have seen alot of talk in here about a new server or resetting. Well resetting is a bad idea but a new server with new gaming structure would be great. Just here me out and then attack.
1. Make the server race specific and then develope your corp with in that race. It would be fun to see race vrs race only fights. This would promote some real RPG effect. You could have all kinds of checks for TKing like grief points and such that lock your charcter if you decided to TK.
2. Make the server all 0.0 except a sancturary of about 4 systems with a market and no astriods or resources.
3. Then the story line would mean something and the fighting would be great.
4. Allow players to transfer ther charcter to this sevrer at a percentage tranfer rate that can go no higher then 20 mil total. Or something like that.
I have more to add but no more time on break. Now dont be to harsh this is just some brain storming idea. I love eve the way it is but there could be more. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Lord Harold ([email protected]) |

Evelgrivion
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:35:00 -
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You usually don't get more from less 
And I don't think this would particularly improve the value of EVE either; it would just cheapen the experience as a whole IMO.
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Vitrael
Stormriders Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:36:00 -
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Funny, I've seen absolutely no talk of a new server or a reset by anybody of any authority on the subject at all.
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Ash Vincetti
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:37:00 -
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Just. No. No sharding. Ever. No thanks. -----
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Mei Shin
Illustrious Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: DNSBlackknight Well I have seen alot of <snip>
I am just very glad you are not a dev.
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Nos Gainah
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:46:00 -
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Wow, two of these in one day!? You couldn't have posted this in the other sharding thread that couldn't have been more than 10 lines from the top post!? Want people's opinions on the matter? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=521662
Mine's in there too. Completely separate shards? It's never. Going. To. happen.
I think that a galactic gate to all new areas (with a 24 hour delay or something that doesn't allow cap ships/ freighters through) is a much better idea and I've been bandying it around all day. It discourages established empires from just establishing a larger sprawl and encourages developing from within and gives newer players a much better chance at participating in the best parts of Eve without detracting from the current community.
That's just me though.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:48:00 -
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Brainfart alert 
:)
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Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Minmatar Retribution Corp.
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Vitrael Funny, I've seen absolutely no talk of a new server or a reset by anybody of any authority on the subject at all.
Indeed, CCP have however repeaditly said that this _would not_ happen.
Maybe reading up on some devblogs/dev posts would do one good ?
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Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.17 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Valka on 17/05/2007 18:52:36 Urge to believe in God rising!
After all, if there is God, there is Hell, and I so wish you, OP, and anyone else with this kind of bright ideas, a quick and painful trip to down under.
Enjoy. 
Originally by: Diana Marc Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
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Meigs
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: DNSBlackknight 1. Make the server race specific and then develope your corp with in that race.
This is a great idea DNS.... or should I call you ******. I suppose in a perfect universe everything would be nice and sectioned off into racially pure areas, then you'd know if you saw someone different looking, you could just shoot them.
This is the worst idea. I give it an F.
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Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:14:00 -
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No
Just for future reference, here are some more answers I've prepared for future ideas such as this. You can cut and paste them in to save me typing.
No No No No No No
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General Apocalypse
Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:20:00 -
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO  
Did i made myself clr. ?
EVE evolvs in this rate : better server more players lag better server more players. All whit new content and balancing on top 
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Rulaigh NicMorrigan
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:20:00 -
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all we need to do to add some fun variety to EVE is this:
Make designated systems right in the middle of empire 0.0, and have the gates set to only allow certain sized ships in.
So you have the 0.0 frigate arena system, 0.0 cruiser, 0.0 unlimited, etc. Anyone can grab a cheap ship and go there for some pew pew.
Make sure there's enough of them spread around to limit lag from too many people being there at once, and make sure they're all dead end systems so they dont interfere with any AP routes.
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Miss Anthropy
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:35:00 -
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Seems like the general consensus to the OP's idea leaves me with little to add. There's a thread like this once or twice every fortnight now; new server, fresh start etc. No thanks.
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Bistot Kid
The First Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: General Apocalypse NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
General Apocalypse, may I ask why Vladmir Putin is behid Darth Vader in your signature? 
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Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Anthropy Seems like the general consensus to the OP's idea leaves me with little to add. There's a thread like this once or twice every fortnight now; new server, fresh start etc. No thanks.
It's the WoW assault force!
Look! They bring swords!
Wait... WFT? ^_-
Swords?
Load the Gamma L, boys!
Originally by: Diana Marc Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
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Blind Man
Kemono.
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Blind Man on 17/05/2007 19:48:20 change title to
New server- Bad Idea

and TK'ing - i lol'ed..
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DNSBLACK
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Posted - 2007.05.18 13:54:00 -
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Now those are some real inteligent answers. Like I said the game is great but with everything has to change and develope. I guess the thing that I really am looking for is to see more race vrs race type fighting. Iam sure the people in here responding have work long and hard for what they have and I dont blame you for trying to protect and hang on but a game will die if we dont have new blood. So mabey a new server is a bad idea but we have a great game and it needs to always look at improving. Now improving has nothing to do with adding new content as it has more to do with devloping game play that get people hooked and new blood is itroduced to the game along with out cheapening the over all game we have now. I do like some of the gate ideas. Or maybe we can develope an area with in this server were race vs race only fighting can take place and we can allow the RPG aspect to come out more. This was only a brain storm post. Last time I checked this is a general discusion area. Please dont feel like you have to come and defend eve or the current game play just let us vent some ideas and we will go away unless you are worried the developers really read this section LOL.
Black
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Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.18 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: DNSBLACK Now those are some real inteligent answers. Like I said the game is great but with everything has to change and develope. I guess the thing that I really am looking for is to see more race vrs race type fighting. Iam sure the people in here responding have work long and hard for what they have and I dont blame you for trying to protect and hang on but a game will die if we dont have new blood. So mabey a new server is a bad idea but we have a great game and it needs to always look at improving. Now improving has nothing to do with adding new content as it has more to do with devloping game play that get people hooked and new blood is itroduced to the game along with out cheapening the over all game we have now. I do like some of the gate ideas. Or maybe we can develope an area with in this server were race vs race only fighting can take place and we can allow the RPG aspect to come out more. This was only a brain storm post. Last time I checked this is a general discusion area. Please dont feel like you have to come and defend eve or the current game play just let us vent some ideas and we will go away unless you are worried the developers really read this section LOL.
Black
If you want a race vs. race fight -- join a nationalist RP corporation. You'll have your race vs. race fighting.
You're trying to fashion EVE after a single-player R ******* PG game**. Single-player games are static in, you don't have any real choices to make, you are just reading a story written by someone.
In EVE, on the other hand, you write your own damn story.
**there hasn't been a decent RPG since Planescape - Torment.
P.S.
Pike off!
Originally by: Diana Marc Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
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Miki Fin
Gallente Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2007.05.18 14:14:00 -
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or how about a new server with vampires in or something? 
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Irongut
M'8'S
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Posted - 2007.05.18 14:29:00 -
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WTF is TKing?
For racial fighting look up Factional Warfare in dev blogs. Other than that...
JUST
SAY
NO
TO
SHARDING
KIDDIES!
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CCP kieron

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Posted - 2007.05.18 23:40:00 -
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I have been admonished to never say 'Never' in answer to a player question. However, I will say that other than the current venture in China, the probability of another production server like Tranqility opening is extremely small.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait... |
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Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.18 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron I have been admonished to never say 'Never' in answer to a player question. However, I will say that other than the current venture in China, the probability of another production server like Tranqility opening is extremely small.
Oh man now there gonna jump on that and push and push and push and whine and whine and whine 
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios
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Posted - 2007.05.18 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron I have been admonished to never say 'Never' in answer to a player question. However, I will say that other than the current venture in China, the probability of another production server like Tranqility opening is extremely small.

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Methodius
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Posted - 2007.05.18 23:57:00 -
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Go back to WoW with your ideas. 
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Methodius
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Posted - 2007.05.19 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bistot Kid
Originally by: General Apocalypse NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
General Apocalypse, may I ask why Vladmir Putin is behid Darth Vader in your signature? 
I, too, would like to know that.
Are you trying to send some kind of political message with that signature of yours? 
And another question to the mods: Is this allowed? 
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Marquis Dean
Demise and Vestige 9th Fleet
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Posted - 2007.05.19 01:43:00 -
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Talk about missing the whole point of the game... ---
Originally by: korrey Marquis I have to admit, without you there wouldn't be much laughter in these forums.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.05.19 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron I have been admonished to never say 'Never' in answer to a player question. However, I will say that other than the current venture in China, the probability of another production server like Tranqility opening is extremely small.
thank you
lets /end these threads by quoting this post forever ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some |

Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.19 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: CCP kieron I have been admonished to never say 'Never' in answer to a player question. However, I will say that other than the current venture in China, the probability of another production server like Tranqility opening is extremely small.
thank you
lets /end these threads by quoting this post forever
Yeah. Good luck with that. See you here next Friday when someone posts another one. :)
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Gungankllr
Caldari STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.19 03:30:00 -
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I would be open to a North American server and a European Server, as long as you were able to gate into both somehow.
Like, almost an expansion-type server.
For instance, the Jove create several massive jumpgates which are able to toss you halfway back to earth, to regions with no stations, and no jumpgates.
Only capital ships would be able to jump from point a to point b, locking in on cynosural probes that were fired several years ago in preparation for the expansion.
Players would have to build all the gates themselves, build the stations themselves, and it would open a vast variety of RP and exploration considerations, as well as some really decent stuff for those research and manufacturing types.
That, and it would pull some of the load off the current server and on to the new one.
Anyhow, just a thought. My only reservation would be that you would be able to access both servers from one account. (Switching back and forth by jumping from one server to another, even if you had to log off to complete the transfer)
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Ductoris
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.05.19 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron I have been admonished to never say 'Never' in answer to a player question. However, I will say that other than the current venture in China, the probability of another production server like Tranqility opening is extremely small.
Allow me to help.
Synonyms:
- certainly not
- under no circumstances
- by no means
- in no way
- not at all
- under no circumstances
- on no account
- no way
Its not that I have strong feelings on the matter or anything, I just want to be helpful. 
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Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Barbarellas Daughter on 22/05/2007 14:45:38 if stalin, ****** and dr. no had a plan, it would be a sharded eve
edit: sry for semi necroing, didnt realize the last post was 3 days ago
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Glengrant
Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.23 08:10:00 -
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Just Say No To Shards - any kind - ever.
Having just one universe is one of the best points of Eve.
The reset idea comes from people whining about how newbies can't catch up - which is based on a misunderstanding how this well designed skill system works. There are no simple "levels" in eve - new players can get competitive in particular ships within a few weeks or months. Thanks to the large number of skills and diminishing returns, the gazilion SP the few 4 year old players have is of no use is most situations and just gives more diversity in options.
All the other ideas for sharding are again based on faulty assumptions - like this will cure lag (it won't - Eve is already "sharded" in that the systems are distributed over many servers - and the new shard would not get the same number of machines to begin with), or that new shards will bring new opportunities (that will either be very short term - and then what? - or can also be done on Tranquility).
Many players like Eve exactly because there are no shards (ignoring the chinese server - special circumstances - and they are mostly exclusive to each other - so there is only one per market).
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Kayosoni
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.23 08:14:00 -
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well considering how bad ccp has managed to screw up TQ, and I have almost no faith in their ability to fix it (even though they are trying, and I still hope, otherwise my accounts would be inactive...)
Another server with all 0.0 and no capital ships or poses would be quite excellent, although no char transfers, and maybe 2x training rate... would be pretty fun. -----------------------------------
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Glengrant
Minmatar TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.23 08:18:00 -
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I would like to see a small extension to the forum software: 1. Assemble all sharding threads into 1 thread. 2. Any time somebody posts a message conataining the word "shard" or some similar phrases - auto-add that message to the "No Shard ever thread - but here are all the messages about it" thread. 3. Display a big blinking red message to the writer that explains that there will be no shards and that there is really no point in opening the 123rd thread about it.
[semi-serious mode off] ;-)
p.s. I'm sure we can find a couple more topics that would profit from such a feature ("noobs have no chance" for example)
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Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.23 08:24:00 -
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one word, no. Thank you -
-- Sound in EVE |

General Apocalypse
Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.23 08:31:00 -
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No    
Thank You SkyFlyer |

General Apocalypse
Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.23 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bistot Kid
Originally by: General Apocalypse NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
General Apocalypse, may I ask why Vladmir Putin is behid Darth Vader in your signature? 
They where out for a lightsabre and a votka 
Thank You SkyFlyer |

Minmatar baby
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Posted - 2007.05.23 09:11:00 -
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What makes eve special is its on SHARD.. stop with your darn "lets destroy what eve is" ideas.. go and play wow or something then 
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill
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Posted - 2007.05.23 09:17:00 -
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You fail at Creativity.
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Iron McFly
CHAF tech
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Posted - 2007.05.24 01:40:00 -
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1) No Char Jumping - any New EVE should be for seperate accounts and characters.
No Portal - No way Tranquillity economy would be affected.
2) To offset the Huge fear current players have of a 2nd-EVE sucking the player base and thus depth out of Tranquillity - something would have to be done like:
a) the Rules in 2nd-EVE were so diff 75% of players would not want to play it or leave Tranquillity except to try.
b) Price diff like Tranquillity $10 per month - 2nd-EVE $15 unless an account maintained in both - then $10 each per month.
c) maybe a conditional pre-order period of 6-9 months, Only if a 2nd-EVE appeared to have potencial to Add 10-15k regular subscribers without robbing Tranquillity of more than 5k would it be opened.
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