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EVETV spiralJunkie
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:54:00 -
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EVE TV is going to be on the front lines, filming events and delivering it as cutting-edge news on a weekly basis.
What we need:
Alliances to step forward and say they're willing to let us alongside them and capture their battles, their campaigns, their victories (and inevitably some horrifying defeats). Please nominate a few people from your alliance who can contact us and be contacted in case of breaking news; we can then use magical means to arrive straight into the heart of the action, and film your event as it happens. (We won't be able to film everything, and we probably won't be tagging along for too long, but we'll do our best). Regardless of whether or not we manage to film what's going on, we'll certainly be looking to interview a couple of people on the breaking news û especially the leaders involved. If you don't want us spamming your CEO alt, then please let us in on the correct channels if they differ from the Alliance Contacts List.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=494445
We have various ways by which you can contact us, the best is probably Skype, since then we can add you to our contacts and call you at work and make your life hell. I'm joking of course, but we will be relying on instant communication to get hold of people and Skype conversations can be recorded to a decent level of clarity for broadcast.
Skype: 'EVE TV' (please leave a message)
Tel: +44(0)208 1337 212 (please leave a message) û call charges apply
Email: [email protected]
EVEmail: 'EVETV Sapateiro' or 'EVETV spiralJunkie'
IRC: irc.coldfront.net in #evetv.
In-game channel: 'EVETV'
Regarding where the in-game EVE TV cameras will be filming, we'll be updating the forums to show where we're at as often as we can. Another thing worth noting is that it may be advisable to set the EVE TV corporation as positive, as we don't want to clutter up your Overview û but that's up to you of course.
I would like to reiterate that we aim to be as unbiased as possible in our reporting. Understandably many people might not trust us on that, but there are check in place and with your help and willingness to assist, we can get as near to those lofty goals as possible. The proof of the pudding however, will be in the tasting.... mmmmmm, pudding.
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar
Fist of the Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:56:00 -
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cool
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COADalt
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Posted - 2007.05.18 15:59:00 -
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didn't you get in to a forum and post information about ASCN with your CCP char? NM. forgot it's like the T20 thing..it never happened..
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DeadWeight
Minmatar
Botox Bandits
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:03:00 -
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Given your past actions I don't think anyone can trust you not to relay intel. That being said, many in EvE suffer from amnesia. What makes you think your experience will be any different from The Scope?
Good luck with your project. I only hope we don't get spammed with invasive in-game prompt windows regarding EvETV. They're extremely annoying and probably the single biggest reason I despise your organization.
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Glitch 10240
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:17:00 -
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nice idea, hope to be tuning in soon :P
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:21:00 -
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EVE TV is welcome at all engagements IAC takes part in.
Maybe I'll even remember to let you guys know when we have something entertaining going on..
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Erikel
Cosmic Odyssey
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:26:00 -
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Sweet, i'll be watching for sure. 
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:36:00 -
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Will be watching :)
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Attak
Trioptimum
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:40:00 -
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I can't believe you're still willing to show your face on these boards. Not just that, but being the one who still represents EVE TV as a whole to the community? The least they could do is get a different PR face, even if people didn't think there was legitimate cause for resignation altogether.
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.05.18 16:46:00 -
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Meh. I suppose you can follow us around.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.18 17:08:00 -
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Ignore the haters spiral, seriously.
I'm really excited about the direction EveTV is heading in, and I think it is (as a total package) going to be a great boon to the Eve community.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Zapatero
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Posted - 2007.05.18 17:19:00 -
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Hello
You may know me by my other alter-ego Zapatero (you may have noticed a similarity in the name). I'll be in charge of the newsroom at EVE TV; chasing up stories, interviewing people, scripting and such (being a journalist, of sorts, in RL). I look forward to working with you guys because I'm really excited about what EVE TV achieved by the efforts of some truly dedicated people over 2 PVP tournaments. I only hope my small contribution can help take EVE TV to the next level.
- Zap... er, I mean Sap :)
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EVETV Sapateiro
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Posted - 2007.05.18 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: EVETV Sapateiro on 18/05/2007 17:19:09
 Originally by: Zapatero
Hello
You may know me by my other alter-ego Zapatero (you may have noticed a similarity in the name). I'll be in charge of the newsroom at EVE TV; chasing up stories, interviewing people, scripting and such (being a journalist, of sorts, in RL). I look forward to working with you guys because I'm really excited about what EVE TV achieved by the efforts of some truly dedicated people over 2 PVP tournaments. I only hope my small contribution can help take EVE TV to the next level.
Damnit, I pulled a spiral!!! 
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ispyozs
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Posted - 2007.05.18 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: ispyozs on 18/05/2007 18:15:50
spiralJunkie
said he was sorry don't you guys remember that. so it's all good now. keep on the bob lovin spiralJunkie 
ps. just like t20 i think.. didn't he say he was sorry so that fixes everything right?
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Gunship
Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.18 18:47:00 -
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having eve-tv turning up in local, might just be a bit of a give away, unless you can magic your way in without showing up the local radar (chat)... 
hope it works out for eve-tv, GL with it
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Zagum Darkfin
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.18 18:51:00 -
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I am curious how Eve-TV will handle the terrible lag in our fleet fights. I hope viewers don't mind slide shows. Please keep this in mind when you venture forth. Make sure that you have a direct dedicated line to the server and a super-computer to run the client while filming otherwise staring at a black screen will be very boring.
This is great news btw and good luck.
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DTee
The Huns
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.05.18 19:08:00 -
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I definately considered doing something similar recently. Covert ops, flying where the action is and frapsing it. Ofcourse it'll be alot more easier for a corp who doesn't get shot at.
I can't wait to see the end result.
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EVETV Xyliana
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Posted - 2007.05.18 19:21:00 -
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We are looking forward to featuring your combat as well as having intimate coverage for the wars you engage in. Please feel free to take advantage of the EVE TV contact details and pitch ideas (content, coverage, guests, etc) in our EVE TV forum section
Director of EVETV - EVETV Forums - http://www.eve-online.tv
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.05.18 19:45:00 -
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Please don't take this as trolling or whatever but EvE TV is going to give us live still images or black screens ?
Welcome the idea but i don't see how your going to make this work.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Anyone comparing CCP to a glacier is really not being fair to the glacier.
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Aramark
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.18 19:46:00 -
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How have you sovled the problem that some people might see this as a way to spy on hostile forces in the system?
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Stavros
Amarr
Itto-Ryu
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.05.18 21:14:00 -
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This one time, at EVE-TV camp, Spiral said he would make me a star..
He lied :(
But I was young and I needed the money so I guess its ok.
But <3
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.18 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: DeadWeight
Given your past actions I don't think anyone can trust you not to relay intel.
This. If you can guarantee me, somehow, that inviting you along for the ride poses no risk, then I'll be more than happy to do it on any op I for which I'm FC.
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Athena Attom
Tech 2 Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2007.05.18 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Aramark
How have you sovled the problem that some people might see this as a way to spy on hostile forces in the system?
Whilst I assume that most people would adhear to the NDA that I persume you would need to sign to become a member of EVETV I think this is something that people would like an answer on.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.18 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Stavros
This one time, at EVE-TV camp, Spiral said he would make me a star..
He lied :(
But I was young and I needed the money so I guess its ok.
But <3
This thread is now officially epic.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.18 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: EVETV Sapateiro
Damnit, I pulled a spiral!!!
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.05.18 22:40:00 -
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We're looking into this. At least we don't have lag on a regular basis .
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SirMolle
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.19 07:25:00 -
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Would love to see you guys around. EVE TV is looking mighty interesting, and will hopefully fill its role all around the galaxy.
Be sure to film us from our good side mkay?
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.19 07:35:00 -
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MC is always happy to cooperate with the media. 
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.19 10:40:00 -
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I'd love to work with you.
Dark
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.19 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Noluck Ned on 19/05/2007 11:39:12
Originally by: EVETV Xyliana
We are looking forward to featuring your combat as well as having intimate coverage for the wars you engage in. Please feel free to take advantage of the EVE TV contact details and pitch ideas (content, coverage, guests, etc) in our EVE TV forum section
You can cover me intimately anytime you like!
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EVETV Sapateiro
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Posted - 2007.05.19 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Aramark
How have you sovled the problem that some people might see this as a way to spy on hostile forces in the system?
We aim to post on these forums (or the EVE TV forums) where we are operating (or have been operating). The guy in charge of the newsroom should know where his reporters are and if they've been spotted where they haven't been asked to report, then I shall investigate.
As for adding to lag, surely one extra ship isn't going to have an effect, but if things are impossible to film, that in itself is news-worthy n'est pas?
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EVETV Sapateiro
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Posted - 2007.05.19 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk
Sorry to sound so cynical, but I've never known any form of media to remain unbiased overtime - except maybe the Discovery Channel, but I'm not sure you'll be filming the mating rituals of space wombats found in and around the 93PI-4 system.
Eve-Online volounteer departments have long had questions over their impartiality that have remained unchecked. While I am grateful for the efforts of 99% of these people who take time out of their own busy schedules in order to make the game better for the rest of us, there are the few who destroy all this work to benefit themselves and their friends.
I would hate to see the efforts of EveTV turned into someone elses propaganda tool as time goes on.
That said, I really enjoyed SpiralJunkies coverage of the last PvP tournament, so hope temptation can be avoided.
Captain Thunk
I agree wholeheartedly. 100% objectivity is perhaps an impossible aim, but it's surely right to at least try to attain it.
Perhaps there should be some kind of EVE media watchdog, to keep us and the other EVE channels - both official and independent - in check? I would be than happy to have a conference call with a small panel of council members every so often to address any concerns that they have with specific content or general editorial policy.
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Morris Falter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.19 14:44:00 -
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This really could be a cool thing - good luck with making it work.
One suggestion - as an incentive for people to get in touch, how about providing download links for your recorded footage?
Clearly, its impossible for anyone with in-game links to be impartial, but if you're not interested in the game enough to play it.. then why would you be part of this team? We're just going to have to take it on faith that this doesn't get abused, and hope we aren't disappointed. 
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DeckardIRL
Setenta Corp
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.19 16:00:00 -
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Eve TV is welcome anytime.
I will convo EveTV ingame when appropriate.
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Archilies
The Wild Hunt
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.19 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Archilies on 19/05/2007 18:25:02
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Sorry to sound so cynical, but I've never known any form of media to remain unbiased overtime - except maybe the Discovery Channel
You obvoiusly havent heard of the BBC
As for the Alliance contact list im looking for media contacts which alot of the alliances still don't have, and im wanting to get it filled up with lots of yellow text. So if you could have executor ceo's post on there who their media contacts that'd be great.
/me looks at seleene and other notable alliance leaders
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Godolphin
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.05.19 23:02:00 -
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YAWN now wears my BPO and ban this account
PS gona hot seeleene at the waaaankfest with my member
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Sean Dillon
Caldari
Naughty 40
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Posted - 2007.05.20 10:15:00 -
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Big Brother will be watching you
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Bregolas
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Posted - 2007.05.20 11:10:00 -
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Are you kidding? This spiral guy still has a job after what he pulled? I think CCP have sunk to a new low. Surely there's someone else you could hire to do his job, I mean lets face it he wasn't that great at it in the first place.
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Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.20 14:59:00 -
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I think this is a great initiative by EVETV, and we'll be glad to go along with it. After all, people want the hot stuff from the eastern front 
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.20 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: SwindonBadger on 20/05/2007 19:53:49
What happens if I pop a camera man? I dont really ever check names/corp, and have a habiit of corpse hunting.
good idear:) Hope that hard drive is massive if u get one of those alliance thingies
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EVETV spiralJunkie
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Posted - 2007.05.21 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: SwindonBadger
Edited by: SwindonBadger on 20/05/2007 19:53:49
What happens if I pop a camera man? I dont really ever check names/corp, and have a habiit of corpse hunting.
good idear:) Hope that hard drive is massive if u get one of those alliance thingies
That's why we recommend you set us all to blue. That way we're not on your overview, and you don't spark a massive Diplomatic Incident :D
That said, I have a feeling ane EVE TV representative you see will be quite hard to kill
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Doc Punkiller
Caldari
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.05.21 11:16:00 -
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Can we shoot you or will you be in invulnerable ships ?
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Punkiller
Can we shoot you or will you be in invulnerable ships ?
Camera Titans 4tw.
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CelticWarrior
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.21 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie
Originally by: SwindonBadger
Edited by: SwindonBadger on 20/05/2007 19:53:49
What happens if I pop a camera man? I dont really ever check names/corp, and have a habiit of corpse hunting.
good idear:) Hope that hard drive is massive if u get one of those alliance thingies
That's why we recommend you set us all to blue. That way we're not on your overview, and you don't spark a massive Diplomatic Incident :D
That said, I have a feeling ane EVE TV representative you see will be quite hard to kill
Cant say I'm that keen on this idea.What happens when one of the reporters uncloaks a covert/cloaked recon ship? and the gang your in opens up and pops them.If your going to do this there needs to be a clearly published set of rules posted in advance so everyone knows what the reporters can and can't do.
Personally i think ye should be allowed to warp to gates/stations at zero and no other distances, i wouldnt allow a reporter to orbit any sniper Battleships for that nice wide angle shot etc as there may well be a covert moving in to get a spot for a dictor etc and there will be hell to pay if they are uncloaked by a reporter.I would allow the reporter to be gang warped only and once you come out of warp they sit where they stop until gang warped somewhere else, no roaming around the system willy nilly on there own.
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Firane
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:51:00 -
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Cool.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Dianabolic on 21/05/2007 22:51:59
Might I suggest that one way you can get in on the action without being told about it is a summary at downtime of all pos that are in reinforced, their locations and the times they come out - these are normally the best times to see "fixed location" engagements.
Good luck with it :)
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EVETV spiralJunkie
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Posted - 2007.05.21 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Edited by: Dianabolic on 21/05/2007 22:51:59
Might I suggest that one way you can get in on the action without being told about it is a summary at downtime of all pos that are in reinforced, their locations and the times they come out - these are normally the best times to see "fixed location" engagements.
Good luck with it :)
It's a good plan. Another is to see where there are massive death blobs on the map. Another is keeping an eye on public channels and finding out where "it's going down".
We're still debating to what degree we want to be involved in situations where we're not expressly invited. We don't want to cause any obstruction, any worry, or any ill feeling
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.22 02:40:00 -
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Seriously hope u can get some good footage in. As for living I adivse warping out unless ur in a cloaked dred when the big boys DD.
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Zeoliter
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:56:00 -
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I'm sure they'll be in Polaris class ships. I've seen a few "Joost" Polaris ships in the South-East recently.
As for D2 concerns, I don't see the issue. If you allow EveTV to tag along with you then just set the rules for them. If they screw up then they don't ride with you anymore. And if your covert is blind and doesn't see an EveTV ship coming towards him then perhaps invest in some spectacles?
I don't see any issues with this. It's all for the good of Eve and adds another layer of entertainment. If I missed a big battle but then saw it on EveTV I'd be quite happy. Hang around 9-9 for a few weeks as there is major spankage every day without fail. :)
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CelticWarrior
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.22 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zeoliter
And if your covert is blind and doesn't see an EveTV ship coming towards him then perhaps invest in some spectacles
Hmmm guess you might be in need of the Hubble Telescope yourself ? If you succumb to the EveTV request and set them to blue your coverts are blinded as the EveTv reporters no longer appear on their overview,so now i got no distance readout on them,no indication on whether there getting nearer and absolutely no idea what speed there moving at and its too much of a risk to set them blue and then hope that covert pilots will override the setting by setting them back to neutral so they appear back on their overviews.
Btw EveTv people what ship are you going to be in and whats it's upper speed limit?I think ye should be given pods with 99% resists and be the slowest vessel in game really, being in a pod would also put EveTv reporters in surroundings they may be familiar with.
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LC Sulla
Caldari
House Mekarae
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zeoliter
I'm sure they'll be in Polaris class ships.
I don't think that's fair IMO. Real life war correspondents often take heavy risks to get the best footage. These guys should too.
Their ships should be paid for in ISK (just like ours are) and they should function under all of the gameplay rules we function under. If someone decides the EveTV guys hanging around are a security risk then pop them. It will force them to build up trust with the alliances.
In the real world most atrocities occur away from the prying eyes of reporters. Eve is as real as it gets so let's not 'godmode' Eve's reporters.
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Surrogate
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Surrogate on 22/05/2007 16:28:02
Edited for flaming.
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Ifni
Applied Eugenics
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: LC Sulla
Originally by: Zeoliter
I'm sure they'll be in Polaris class ships.
I don't think that's fair IMO. Real life war correspondents often take heavy risks to get the best footage. These guys should too.
Their ships should be paid for in ISK (just like ours are) and they should function under all of the gameplay rules we function under. If someone decides the EveTV guys hanging around are a security risk then pop them. It will force them to build up trust with the alliances.
In the real world most atrocities occur away from the prying eyes of reporters. Eve is as real as it gets so let's not 'godmode' Eve's reporters.
You realise, of course, that EVE is not real life? I know it can be a hard distinction between the two, but it must occasionally be made.
Having the reporters in targetable and destroyable ships will mean that people will shoot them anyway, simply so that they can say "I shot spiralJunkie". Additionally, I can't see every ingame alliance setting standings to the corporation, so again, having the reporters in Polaris ships means that it doesn't matter if you get shot, you aren't going to kill them anyway.
EVETV is aiming for impartiality. Having them with you is no more of a security risk than having an enemy pilot watching you in a covert ops. They won't be in your gangs, and they won't have access to your voice comms, so really, classing them as a security risk is idiotic. It's akin to claiming the sun is killing you because it's throwing radiation at your brain. Perhaps a tinfoil hat might alleviate the problems...
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LC Sulla
Caldari
House Mekarae
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ifni
You realise, of course, that EVE is not real life? I know it can be a hard distinction between the two, but it must occasionally be made.
Are you sure??
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EVETV is aiming for impartiality. Having them with you is no more of a security risk than having an enemy pilot watching you in a covert ops. They won't be in your gangs, and they won't have access to your voice comms, so really, classing them as a security risk is idiotic. It's akin to claiming the sun is killing you because it's throwing radiation at your brain. Perhaps a tinfoil hat might alleviate the problems...
So long as it's run by people then the temptations of the human condition are always there. While everyone hopes for the best it's stupid not to be prepared for the worst.
EveTV and CCP MUST have mechanisms in place to make sure people flying around in Polaris class vessels (reporting the news) aren't relaying fleet intel (movements & composition) in real time to their buddys in ts. I'm not saying this will occur (this has nothing to do with tinfoil and everything to do with human nature) but if it happens... well you get the point.
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 17:35:00 -
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You need to use delayed stream broadcast. First, this eliminates EvE-TV from being used as a spy tool on fleet compositions (to a certain extend), second, i am sure you will get a lot more viewers if they were the actual participants, sitting back and watching their own battle after it happened
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Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Santiago Cortes
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.05.22 19:25:00 -
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Having Evetv in anything other than Polaris ships would just invite someone to accidentally target them and then repeatedly accidentally target their pod.
Much as though we all like explosions, it wouldn't make for good footage halfway through a fight and the cameraman suddenly switches to the inside of a station.
Not only that but such a situation would actually increase the claims of bias given the full fight wouldn't be available to see.
Clearly given the concerns of past action on behalf of media organisations, it is in the interests of all that will appear both on evetv and interviewed by IC that they add themselves to the alliance contact list, individual corps are welcome to contact us directly.
afaik evetv will be a weekly programme, it will not be a case of "we take you here live" kind of action.
And if you fancy being a part of the whole shebang, or worried enough about the whole thing that you want a chance to influence editorial policy, why not volunteer Here
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Main Corporation
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:34:00 -
[57]
Call charges :\
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.23 14:42:00 -
[58]
Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie
We're still debating to what degree we want to be involved in situations where we're not expressly invited. We don't want to cause any obstruction, any worry, or any ill feeling
Fly non-invulnerable ships. That way, if you're not invited, we can just blow you up and send you back to the clone vats
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Lurks Amarr
The Tidemark
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.23 15:57:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Having Evetv in anything other than Polaris ships would just invite someone to accidentally target them and then repeatedly accidentally target their pod.
Could always give them Polaris Class Escape PodsÖ so we all can pop spirals ships 
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Annu
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.25 08:26:00 -
[60]
Well tbh, it needs to be poliaris. Mind the Doomsdays!
One assumes a polaris will handle a quadruple doomsday :)
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Darc Kaahar
Gallente
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.26 04:14:00 -
[61]
Careful about bumping someone with those polaris's though, seems to cause a lot of trouble 
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Xornicon Altair
Black Watch Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.27 14:35:00 -
[62]
Originally by: DeadWeight
Given your past actions I don't think anyone can trust you not to relay intel. That being said, many in EvE suffer from amnesia. What makes you think your experience will be any different from The Scope?
Good luck with your project. I only hope we don't get spammed with invasive in-game prompt windows regarding EvETV. They're extremely annoying and probably the single biggest reason I despise your organization.
This isn't about passing on Intel, this is about telling the populace about what has already happened. If a Corp/Alliance doesn't want them to know about a certain battle or something, they simply don't have to invite them, thus there's no risk of Intel being prematurely passed on to the enemy.
For example, CNN doesn't tell the Palestinians that Isreal is about to shoot at some Hamas building. CNN does, however, show the world what has happened after the fact. Sometimes they have live coverage, but, that's usually coverage of events that everyone knows is happening anyways. (My apologies to anyone located in that part of the world. It was purely an example and not intended in any inflamitory way.)
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios
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Posted - 2007.05.28 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: DeadWeight
Given your past actions I don't think anyone can trust you not to relay intel. That being said, many in EvE suffer from amnesia. What makes you think your experience will be any different from The Scope?
Good luck with your project. I only hope we don't get spammed with invasive in-game prompt windows regarding EvETV. They're extremely annoying and probably the single biggest reason I despise your organization.
I agree with deadweigth.
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Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.29 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie
Another thing worth noting is that it may be advisable to set the EVE TV corporation as positive, as we don't want to clutter up your Overview û but that's up to you of course.
And here's some footage of the recent SNIGG vs xxx fight... damn they blew up the camera ship. ...again.
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Admiral Seafort
DarkStar 1
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Posted - 2007.05.29 07:38:00 -
[65]
It would actually be kind of interesting to have a non-invincible camera ship. Too bad there's no actual carnage on EVE battlefields (ship pieces flying everywhere, lasers scorching across hulls, &c &c) because that would make for some harrowing footage.
I don't have a problem with a media organization, because biased or not, it's cool to have, but one with the power and blessing of CCP itself certainly wields more power than real life media, and as such really needs to be monitored very closely by all parties.
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SNeAkYbRiT
Black Lance
NBSI Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.29 17:30:00 -
[66]
Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie
Originally by: Dianabolic
Edited by: Dianabolic on 21/05/2007 22:51:59
Might I suggest that one way you can get in on the action without being told about it is a summary at downtime of all pos that are in reinforced, their locations and the times they come out - these are normally the best times to see "fixed location" engagements.
Good luck with it :)
It's a good plan. Another is to see where there are massive death blobs on the map. Another is keeping an eye on public channels and finding out where "it's going down".
We're still debating to what degree we want to be involved in situations where we're not expressly invited. We don't want to cause any obstruction, any worry, or any ill feeling
This is the funniest thing I've read...after what's been said in the forums, being INVITED LOL sorry the GM do what they want to imbalance this game anyways so why bother saying this dribble!
I am so glad I closed my accounts down and before u ask for my stuff tough been given away to None CCP/BoB members and corp!
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Hatsim
Black Lance
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Posted - 2007.05.30 11:04:00 -
[67]
Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT
Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie
Originally by: Dianabolic
Edited by: Dianabolic on 21/05/2007 22:51:59
Might I suggest that one way you can get in on the action without being told about it is a summary at downtime of all pos that are in reinforced, their locations and the times they come out - these are normally the best times to see "fixed location" engagements.
Good luck with it :)
It's a good plan. Another is to see where there are massive death blobs on the map. Another is keeping an eye on public channels and finding out where "it's going down".
We're still debating to what degree we want to be involved in situations where we're not expressly invited. We don't want to cause any obstruction, any worry, or any ill feeling
This is the funniest thing I've read...after what's been said in the forums, being INVITED LOL sorry the GM do what they want to imbalance this game anyways so why bother saying this dribble!
I am so glad I closed my accounts down and before u ask for my stuff tough been given away to None CCP/BoB members and corp!
You will be missed Sneakybridget :(
and to CCP/BOB Good luck!
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Jason Shroud
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.31 21:03:00 -
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I know this would completely break the fourth wall and all that, but is there such a thing as an intangible invisible ship?
That way, you can get all the footage you want (slideshows lol) without anyone, on any side, accusing you of bumping dreads or whatever.
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Aeleva
Caldari
Hegemonic Core
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Posted - 2007.06.01 08:21:00 -
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Point is that polaris frigs are immune to everything, DD does about 1.5 damage to them, and you cant target them in the first place. So it really doesnt matter if they are set to blue or not as they can film with impunity, ideally while cloaked or similar. (not sure if possible)
I think its a cool idea and look foward to seeing how it evolves. I think the really good footage to get would be small gang battles, or flying along with a small roaming gang. People just need to remember to not call EVE tv reporters primary, as then you have a whole gang going "wtf i cant target xxx" :D
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Darg Even
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Posted - 2007.06.04 23:19:00 -
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Good idea :)
If people are worried about spying and stuff they could try asking the reporter to leave..... No need to shoot him, you bloodthirsty bastards
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Phoebus Athenian
Gallente
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.06 10:52:00 -
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Awesome, looking forward to more. :)
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2007.06.11 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Having Evetv in anything other than Polaris ships would just invite someone to accidentally target them and then repeatedly accidentally target their pod.
Much as though we all like explosions, it wouldn't make for good footage halfway through a fight and the cameraman suddenly switches to the inside of a station.
So basically the gist is "they'll be there either you want them to or not, and there ain't a g** **mn thing you can do about it"
Two thumbs up... no.. really... 
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Duke Grail
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.19 06:43:00 -
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from what i remember about spiraljunkie showing up to our outpost deploying party, is that his polaris frig would be killed by several hundred (thousand) doomsdays that would need to be fired within 5 seconds of each other.
the stats on the ship were a couple k of shields with 99% resistancs, and a shield recharge time of 5 seconds.
eat your heart out drake pilots.
also, we invited him to our gang... so if you are comfortable with them being in your gang and seeing your gang chat, they will join your gang (catch gang warps and things like that) if not, they'll have some other way to find out where the action is i'm sure...
tbh, i think it's pretty cool that there will be eve-tv pilots out there. The stuff they've done in the past has impressed me, so i'm looking foreward to seeing how this works out.
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Heliodor Mordureau
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.27 17:00:00 -
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Tbh, this would work better if it tied in closely to the game.
The camera ship should not be polaris; as Polaris Vessels are ISD government vehicles, and despite CCP's sponsorship, ingame this new organization should not be associated with any governmental body, Empire or Concord based.
Just to add flavour, the Camera Vessel should be fast and speedy and cloakable, but maybe only half as resilient. This adds realism to any film captured, as the cameraman will be forced to stay out of the line of fire, and stay hidden like any real combat reporter. This will lend a more realistic sense to the video, rather than a kamikaze polaris pilot who dives into a DD to get footage. Not to mention, if the camera guy gets spotted someplace we don't want him to be, shooting him will let him know that he's in dangerous territory.
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bloody johnroberts
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.01 13:08:00 -
[75]
Well we had evetv cover the s-e fight it was a pol ship and was in no way a distraction apart from the "hello mums" in local.
To me its a great idea and long may it continue.
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AccessHollywood
Inquiring Minds
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Posted - 2007.07.01 17:11:00 -
[76]
Perhaps its best that a camara ships were a breed of its own rather then using a Polaris.
To keep the camara ship honest, offer it no cargo space and restrict the hardpoints to non-weapon modules;
Maybe built in ship/cargo scanners that would offer extra intel for accurate reporting?
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Per Bastet
Amarr
B.O.O.M
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Posted - 2007.07.01 20:44:00 -
[77]
I have a Question.
Are you only going to Cover Alliance PvP Stuff? Or will you cover stuff done by Smaller Corps as well?
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Meleira Luan
Tiger Trading
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Posted - 2007.07.10 09:51:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Darc Kaahar
Careful about bumping someone with those polaris's though, seems to cause a lot of trouble
Yeah bump the wrong ship and the MSN hotline will go warm and you'll end up on
Hello Kitty Online TV reporting about cuddly business for the rest of your career.
Bump the non-BoB ships though, get a medal :-)
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Adaris
Dark and Light inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: Adaris on 18/07/2007 12:42:07
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cHeRrY MuFfInMan
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.07.19 20:35:00 -
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why dont you want to film smaller corps while doing some empire pirating! its much more exciting to watch a battleship vs battleship while 1 of the battlships is taking the sentries in a .4 system! just a thought!
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Fallen Buckshot
Amarr
Shadow Gypsies
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.27 12:45:00 -
[81]
TBH you should have a segment devoted to Boonaki and how great he is .. maybe interviews on how he plans to rule eve and such.
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duckmonster
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.07 17:47:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Heliodor Mordureau
Edited by: Heliodor Mordureau on 27/06/2007 17:10:45
Tbh, this would work better if it tied in closely to the game.
The camera ship should not be polaris; as Polaris Vessels are ISD government vehicles, and despite CCP's sponsorship, ingame this new organization should not be associated with any governmental body, Empire or Concord based.
Just to add flavour, the Camera Vessel should be fast and speedy and cloakable, but maybe only half as resilient. This adds realism to any film captured, as the cameraman will be forced to stay out of the line of fire, and stay hidden like any real combat reporter. This will lend a more realistic sense to the video, rather than a kamikaze polaris pilot who dives into a DD to get footage. Not to mention, if the camera guy gets spotted someplace we don't want him to be, shooting him will let him know that he's in dangerous territory.
There is more life to the footage when there's risk with to the camera.
Man. I'd so kill the reporter if I could.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.08.07 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: LC Sulla
Originally by: Zeoliter
I'm sure they'll be in Polaris class ships.
I don't think that's fair IMO. Real life war correspondents often take heavy risks to get the best footage. These guys should too.
Their ships should be paid for in ISK (just like ours are) and they should function under all of the gameplay rules we function under. If someone decides the EveTV guys hanging around are a security risk then pop them. It will force them to build up trust with the alliances.
In the real world most atrocities occur away from the prying eyes of reporters. Eve is as real as it gets so let's not 'godmode' Eve's reporters.
good idea.
Originally by: Avon
Ignore the haters spiral, seriously.
I'm really excited about the direction EveTV is heading in, and I think it is (as a total package) going to be a great boon to the Eve community.
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Dashhammer II
Amarr
O RLY corp
YTMND.
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Posted - 2007.08.27 11:19:00 -
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As the YTMND representative I feel I should inform you that I have instructed my alliance not to speak to any member of the press. What can I say? I'm just not all that trusting.
The revolution will not be televised.
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Zoltar Torzoid
Gallente
Swag Co.
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.09.06 00:53:00 -
[85]
ok so, CCP recently made jetcans and wrecks non-colidable. Why can't they just make all Polaris ships non colidable. Wouldn't that solve the issue with bumping, and cov-ops ranges? Just a thought. Or even create a new "news vessel" that is non-colidable.
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Dashhammer II
Amarr
O RLY corp
YTMND.
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Posted - 2007.09.07 10:06:00 -
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My concern is not in the tactical dynamic of having extra ships on the field (that may reveal your position and ship composition) but it is more of the political nature.
During the recent tournements a member of the EVE tv staff explained the disqualification of a goonswarm gang with the words 'Apparantly Goonswarm can't count'. Although it was probably not the speaker's intention to assign bias to his words, the viewer is left with a piece of news delivered in a condecending manner.
This game (as you all know) is very political and in war time, each alliance pushes forward thier own propaganda. It is realistic to have an independant news agency covering these events but it is foolish to believe that the few who do cooperate with you won't be lying through thier teeth.
Any 'evetv' vessel that I see in combat would be assumed a hostile target and immeadately engaged. This ship would be free to film us shooting at him from the moment he arrived untill the moment he departed. If it cuases the destruction of my fleet becuase we are so destracted by this indevidual, so be it- I will replace the losses and plan a new enagement which would include a more effective means of evading detection by this entity.
Furthermore, all contact with my alliance would be directed to me and I would either close convo or give details that were the exact opposite of what I had planned.
So my advice (if you guys are serious about this) is...
1: Give evetv the ability to relocate themselves instantly so that they do not have to rely on intel gleaned from players that have an interest in lying to them.
2: Give evetv the ability to cloak with out the possibility of becoming uncloaked so that thier pressence does not cuase a destraction.
If it isn't blue it will be shot and I'm not napped with evetv.
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PiF
Gallente
TAKAGI Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.23 15:13:00 -
[87]
So only pointless 0.0 alliances wars will be covered ?
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snafu 2
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Posted - 2007.11.01 17:19:00 -
[88]
Well what the hell, the press has screwed up Earth, now they are out here. I can see it now, the reporter asks-- how does it feel to have just lost your mothership?
Or the reporter says-- OMG he just shot a POOR defenseless pilot!!! This should be reported to the war crimes incident board !
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Jolnas Arbiter
Cosmic Ascension
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Posted - 2007.12.08 09:13:00 -
[89]
Why is this still stickied? Hasn't eve tv been scrapped?
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