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Corvus Belli
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:31:00 -
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In the news section when I logged on there was an interview with someone from D2. The intervewer mentioned the 'Alliance'.
From the context, I am assuming when they said 'The Alliance' they meant BoB and pets, but am not sure, can someone confirm this for me?
If so, this does seem a very obvious attempt to affect pepoles perception of events by trying to force a change of language (alliance - not BoB and their clients).
Dosn't make me feel as quesy as the news story that promised to give the reasons for the anti BoB war, it claimed there was fear of BoBs expansionist polices rather than the true reason of general revulsion at how BoB as an alliance was supported by developers. It does however seem an example of an attempt to re write (Eve) history.
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Ethan Hunte
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:39:00 -
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the interview is ********, he doesn't answer any of the questions asked at all.
just weird gibberish that doesn't make sense.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Corvus Belli
If so, this does seem a very obvious attempt to affect pepoles perception of events by trying to force a change of language (alliance - not BoB and their clients).
Which would do what exactly?
anyway, the interview is stupid and i have no idea why it was even posted. 
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Stellar Vix
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:46:00 -
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Did you check what corp the interviewer is from might give insight to where they form thier opinions/questions from. Similar to the JV- Battle reporter on the offical news was a pro-coalation member.
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Jotan Veer
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:47:00 -
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I have to agree with Josh on this, that 'interview' wasn't anywhere near newsworthy.
'There is always war'....'BOB who?'....come on, can I have a double order whatever the D2 dude is having, please?
@OP: You are obviously trolling, but in case you are really this clueless, let me give you one, not everyone in the 'Alliance' is a pet. Some people pay BOB, some people get paid by BOB and some people just fight for free.
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Sochin
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Belli
In the news section when I logged on there was an interview with someone from D2. The intervewer mentioned the 'Alliance'.
From the context, I am assuming when they said 'The Alliance' they meant BoB and pets, but am not sure, can someone confirm this for me?
If so, this does seem a very obvious attempt to affect pepoles perception of events by trying to force a change of language (alliance - not BoB and their clients).
Dosn't make me feel as quesy as the news story that promised to give the reasons for the anti BoB war, it claimed there was fear of BoBs expansionist polices rather than the true reason of general revulsion at how BoB as an alliance was supported by developers. It does however seem an example of an attempt to re write (Eve) history.
People have been calling it the "Alliance" for quite a long time in CAOD. Perhaps you should refrain from calling "zOMG conspiracy!!" in matters you aren't familiar with.
On side note, that was the most ridiculous interview I've ever seen. Janus should run for President, hes good enough at dodging questions and giving vague, irrelevant answers.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.21 19:57:00 -
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The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
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DeadWeight
Minmatar
Botox Bandits
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
As for the interview, all questions were avoided and the interviewer really did not press of answers. Its not a sin to admit that D2 overextended itself or that much of their plan relied on their allies having the same zeal as they do. The best you can do is draw up a plan and assign roles, and trust that people will get their goals achieved. When it works its called team work, when it fails its called tunnel vision.
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:36:00 -
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I thought the entire interview was just someone trying to harass D2 and rub poo in their faces, and then show it all off to the rest of EVE.
Although I am looking forward to the Gurista's response to Tri's claim to Venal. Reminds me of Stain =D
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Kharass Al'Quam
Minmatar
Team Jihad
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
As for the interview, all questions were avoided and the interviewer really did not press of answers. Its not a sin to admit that D2 overextended itself or that much of their plan relied on their allies having the same zeal as they do. The best you can do is draw up a plan and assign roles, and trust that people will get their goals achieved. When it works its called team work, when it fails its called tunnel vision.
Lolz your brilliant and im quite fond of you :)
Fly safe my dear man.
And dont be tempted DS.
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.05.21 20:48:00 -
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its a political spin post ( must be a political adviser or PR person in real life) they get thier strengths across miniminze in their reaction theier weaknesses and make it look small by describing it as such while talking up their strengths
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:02:00 -
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I agree that the posting of the interview was pointless. Even as someone who has barely followed what's been happening I can see that whoever was interviewed seemed very evasive when it came to answering questions regarding the reasoning for the war, and what exactly happened to D2 during their paticipation. The majority of what was posted was plain gibberish.
However, that said, the interview appeared to me to be presented in character, and there really are no ways in character to descibe "The Blueprint Incident" and the ongoing discussion that was the catalyst for the war.
Either way, it was pointless posting it IMO, there's not really a lot of content other than "ummm..." and "errrrr..."
Nice to see some in game coverage of events in the news though, they just need to be a bit more accurate and concise tbh.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Callthetruth
its a political spin post ( must be a political adviser or PR person in real life) they get thier strengths across miniminze in their reaction theier weaknesses and make it look small by describing it as such while talking up their strengths
Tbh I read the exact opposite in that interview...
The message it conveyed to me can be summarized in two words: D2 sucks.
It also should have been edited for proper english, especially the 'It was me a pleasure' part had me smack my forehead. We use that kind of kindergarten-english to ridicule each other in the pub... (I am german too)
Not that I expect every german to know english 100%, but in an official news item...
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:10:00 -
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The interview made me rofl. D2 is no longer news-worthy in any sense, especially their opinions. They will be back in Empire within the month.
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
As for the interview, all questions were avoided and the interviewer really did not press of answers. Its not a sin to admit that D2 overextended itself or that much of their plan relied on their allies having the same zeal as they do. The best you can do is draw up a plan and assign roles, and trust that people will get their goals achieved. When it works its called team work, when it fails its called tunnel vision.
This is the best post ever. I'd activate my normal flame mode but... damn dude. lol
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Draco Pel
Iteration-X
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
The phrase in english "The Nile isn't just a river in Egypt" stems from the fact that when you say "The Nile" quickly it sounds like denial. Get it yet? It may not translate well into text on an international forum (insert tech2 sense of humor needed here type remark here).
As for the interview, when privateers were asked their ten questions the next patch nerfed them back to the stone age, looks like Wednesday's patch is going to nerf D2 in some way 
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Ralara
Caldari
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:17:00 -
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linky?
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Corvus Belli
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:21:00 -
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Jotan
Am not completely clueless but like to think am not trolling either. Call it being slightly contentious to hopefully spark debate......
Am interested in your reply however. I can understand BoB paying some people to fight - makes sense to subsidise good PvP corps / or alliance so they are fighting full time. I was not aware however that other alliances paid BoB? What for exactly? Is it a staight forward 'give us Tribute and do what we say and we will not kick you in the goolies' kind of deal? Or is there more of a quid pro quo going on?
As for the rest of the interview - would agree that it was not journalism of the highest order. Also agree that the D2 chappie was far to evasive. He would have been far better to have leveled and said 'yup, we gave it a good ***** invading BoB space and took a bit of a kicking. With the support of our allies and our massive industrial background we will match BoB if they try and come at us' sort of thing.
Or more in character if he had prefered.
As for the people that asked what my original point was. Publishing this interview just seems to be part of an effort to normalise the anti BoB war - or more specifically the back ground reasons for it.
Ah, as someone implied, maybe I am just paranoid, now where is my tn foil hat.......
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Ralara
Caldari
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:44:00 -
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anyone got a link?
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Ralara
Caldari
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:47:00 -
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Ah I found it.
Quote:
IC: How does the loss of 3 corporations and a titan affect your ability to fight in this war?
D2: There is a war?
http://myeve.eve-online.com/mb/news.asp?nid=1456
Well no wonder they are losing then. 
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Invidious Malinigvious
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Belli
Jotan
Am not completely clueless but like to think am not trolling either. Call it being slightly contentious to hopefully spark debate......
Am interested in your reply however. I can understand BoB paying some people to fight - makes sense to subsidise good PvP corps / or alliance so they are fighting full time. I was not aware however that other alliances paid BoB? What for exactly? Is it a staight forward 'give us Tribute and do what we say and we will not kick you in the goolies' kind of deal? Or is there more of a quid pro quo going on?
As for the rest of the interview - would agree that it was not journalism of the highest order. Also agree that the D2 chappie was far to evasive. He would have been far better to have leveled and said 'yup, we gave it a good ***** invading BoB space and took a bit of a kicking. With the support of our allies and our massive industrial background we will match BoB if they try and come at us' sort of thing.
Or more in character if he had prefered.
As for the people that asked what my original point was. Publishing this interview just seems to be part of an effort to normalise the anti BoB war - or more specifically the back ground reasons for it.
Ah, as someone implied, maybe I am just paranoid, now where is my tn foil hat.......
lol
If you think the t2 bpo fiasco had anything to do with d2 kicking off a war with bob you are foolish. D2 may have used that as an excuse to get their alliance to stop killing gurista's 23-7. The reason they invaded fountain (lol) is because BOB went announced they were going to go fight ra/goon far from fountain/delve.
D2's failure has been quite remarkable.
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Jotan Veer
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Belli
From the context, I am assuming when they said 'The Alliance' they meant BoB and pets, but am not sure, can someone confirm this for me?
Quote:
Am interested in your reply however. I can understand BoB paying some people to fight - makes sense to subsidise good PvP corps / or alliance so they are fighting full time. I was not aware however that other alliances paid BoB? What for exactly? Is it a staight forward 'give us Tribute and do what we say and we will not kick you in the goolies' kind of deal? Or is there more of a quid pro quo going on?
Maybe our definition of 'pet' differs somewhat. I define pet as someone who pays rent in contrast of an ally who does not pay rent but follows the same/similar standings list.
Thus your 'Bob and pets = alliance?' implication is what I'm disagreeing with.
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Your Name
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:24:00 -
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I believe the purpose of these interviews is to give the game a feel of something more then 'I want to shoot things'. It has nothing to do with the 2% of Eve that reads or posts to the Eve forums.
The questions must be asked and answered as if the game is real life. And if you have ever heard a real life politican speak about being on the down and out, thats about what it would sound like.
D2 has taken a beating lately, to directly deny it would make him sound like an idiot. To admit it would cause internal morale problems. There is no easy solution.
So, in a way, the article does give the game a real world flavor if you know whats going on.
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DaHeaVYFo
DEATH'S LEGION
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ethan Hunte
the interview is ********, he doesn't answer any of the questions asked at all.
just weird gibberish that doesn't make sense.
Politics, run away from them.
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Keorythe
Caldari
Terra Rosa Militia
North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Belli
From the context, I am assuming when they said 'The Alliance' they meant BoB and pets, but am not sure, can someone confirm this for me?
BoB "pets"? Why is it that anyone associated with BoB are pets. Goonswarm is a pet for RA then. D2 can be considered a pet of RA. Try your own reasoning for on other groups/alliances and you'll paint an ugly picture.
Originally by: Corvus Belli
Dosn't make me feel as quesy as the news story that promised to give the reasons for the anti BoB war, it claimed there was fear of BoBs expansionist polices rather than the true reason of general revulsion at how BoB as an alliance was supported by developers. It does however seem an example of an attempt to re write (Eve) history.
Its already been confirmed that there are dev's in the anti-BoB coalition. There has been no proof that neither BoB nor its enemies have been "supported" by devs. And I'm surprised that people are still trying to beat on this dead horse to this day. Can't you think of something a bit more...I don't know, original?
The t20 incident was a flook that had little bearing on any war. There have been numerous threads on that already. Well at least it weeded out some of the burnt out folks that were just taking up space in the game. Did anyone get there stuff btw?
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Belli
I can understand BoB paying some people to fight - makes sense to subsidise good PvP corps / or alliance so they are fighting full time. I was not aware however that other alliances paid BoB? What for exactly? Is it a staight forward 'give us Tribute and do what we say and we will not kick you in the goolies' kind of deal? Or is there more of a quid pro quo going on?
Some of the people who live in our space pay rent.
This gives them a home in 0.0 with access to good resources, little responsibility, and the knowledge that when BoB appear in local their ships will not kersplode in their faces.
Many of the organisation in our space do not pay rent. Their contribution is made in a military manner. They police the area where they reside, rather than donating ISK.
Both groups are generally clubbed together under the term "pets", which we quite like, but our enemies think is some sort of terrible insult. Personally I love pets, especially my two cats. I guess our enemies just aren't cat people, and hate pets in general.
BoB are often questioned over their pets, and it is often claimed that our pets do not deserve access to 0.0 space. These are the same people who claim that BoB is an evil overlord, trying to keep people out of 0.0 space. There seems to be a slight paradox here, but we are used to it. Sometimes the foam dripping from the rabid mouths of our foes tends to obscure their message. Oh well.
These are the same pets that are now kicking the coalition out of their space .. which is kinda ironic. Must suck to be made homeless by people who don't even deserve to be in 0.0
As to the interview, I think it is news-worthy. The fact that it is complete rubbish tells us just as much about the subject as good answers would have.
Personally I would have gone for a somewhat more factual approach myself. Still, there is something warm and fuzzy about a delusional loser, so maybe it is a PR coup .. but probably not.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Draco Pel
The phrase in english "The Nile isn't just a river in Egypt" stems from the fact that when you say "The Nile" quickly it sounds like denial. Get it yet? It may not translate well into text on an international forum (insert tech2 sense of humor needed here type remark here).
he was taking the ****.
unless you're also taking the ****, making me look a bit of a mong. oh god. it's all so confusing. 
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Corvus Belli
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:56:00 -
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The way BoB space is organised is not the orignal point of my first post but is interesting.
So Avon, the deal is BoB is the primary alliance that claims 'overlordship' of a large swath of space yes? It then rents out parts of this space to other alliances - either for payment in kind (military service) or straight up cash.
Also as part of this deal is that the 'client' alliances (pets being the usual derogatory term) are not allowed there own foriegn policy yes?
Sounds quite similar to the Roman Empire in the Late Republic - for any history buffs out there.
I suppose my next question would be for those client alliances that pay to rent space. Is what you get from the deal worth the lack of autonomy? I mean, from my point of view in this game (or any other) I would prefer fighting and being defeated rather than a 'do what you are told' deal.
Although I can see that this is probably not how the client alliances see it.
Annyone from a client alliance care to explain how they see the deal?
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.21 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 21/05/2007 22:55:06
Originally by: Verone
However, that said, the interview appeared to me to be presented in character, and there really are no ways in character to describe "The Blueprint Incident" and the ongoing discussion that was the catalyst for the war.
Its easy actually, CCP runs the game, Concord runs the universe, hence CONCORD would have given Bob access to technology they where given by the 4 empires, an obvious abuse of power as CONCORD is supposed to be neutral.
Anyway, they could have just skipped the start or reason behind the war and actually discussed the war in its current state, if Janus didn't want to comment on the war in a serious manner then im sure some other D2 CEO or pilot would have been willing to comment.
Since Janus didn't even bother to answer the questions in a remotely serious manner the news item shouldn't have been published at all to be honest, its actually the worst one I've ever seen posted on there. (Unless of course Janus Drake was roleplaying a junkie, in which case the interview is fairly accurate, but i find that unlikely)
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Exortius Amarrus
The Clearwater Society
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.21 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
I'm laughing so hard, I almost choked on a pork chop.
Wow,
Just...
Wow.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.21 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 21/05/2007 23:42:59
Corvus Belli, I think you somewhat misunderstand the situation, probably intentionally.
Our "pets" do pretty much what they want, when they want.
They aren't slaves, and we aren't their masters.
They don't give up anything, they gain.
There are plenty of corps and even alliances in Eve who want 0.0 access, but find it hard to make a place for themselves due to the level of control held by the existing territorial alliances.
The choice between sitting in Empire and crying, or taking an offer for access, isn't really a hard one for them. Even if they pay rent it is only a fraction of the extra money they make.
The more powerful military forces in our space help police it and protect it for the rent payers, and so most of the time BoB won't even be anywhere near the area.
In times of conflict BoB will help to defend our friends (and if we didn't like our "pets" they wouldn't be there).
For many it is purely a business arrangement, and for some it is much more like being a conventional 0.0 entity, with the added advantage of having BoB there to help out.
I know you want to try and demonise our system, that much is clear from the wording of your posts, and you are entitled to your opinion.
However, I would point out that some of those forces who publically frown upon our structure also try to emulate it.
Unfortuantely for them, I think the current situation is less than ideal for their renters .. especially if they want to refine anything.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Santiago Cortes
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.05.22 01:30:00 -
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I think saying an article shouldn't be published is somewhat demeaning to the work that goes into one.
The time that goes into setting up an interview, researching and debating questions in house then actually getting to do the interview and then writing it up amounts to many man hours.
Interstellar Correspondents cannot be held responsible for the answers that are provided to our questions, we are merely asking ones we think the general population of Eve would like to know.
IC will be working in close conjunction with Evetv and we look forward to how players will react if and when their interviews are broadcast.
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Jareck Hunter
Caldari
Academy of Decadence
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Posted - 2007.05.22 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Keorythe
Its already been confirmed that there are dev's in the anti-BoB coalition.
There has been no proof that neither BoB nor its enemies have been "supported" by devs.
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Do you read your answers, before you post?
There is a confirmed Dev in the Coalition, show me the proof, never heard of one.
Well others thing in your post i don't want to mention, like Janus in the Interview, cause they only will start another flame war....
BTW not everybody associated with BOB is a Pet.
Pets are no real Allys in the old style, so they are not counted as these. So the Allianz is formed out of BOB, BOBs Allys and theyr so called "Pets".
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Atius Tirawa on 22/05/2007 02:59:54
Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
Maby its a New York thing. . .you need to stress the right letters to make it work. try, Da Nile (the Nile) = Danile = Denile = the Nile. I thought it was a NY Jewish thing. . .since other people I say that to miss the reference too (or come to think of it, it may come from a movie.)
Oftain used as follows: "She is the queen of de-nile." Thus the double meaning in both refering to someone as a snobby person who does not take responsibility <Cleopatra, queen of the nile> and to the fact that that person denies everything.
As for the interview - we will all agree that it was awful.
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.05.22 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Atius Tirawa
Edited by: Atius Tirawa on 22/05/2007 02:59:54
Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
Maby its a New York thing. . .you need to stress the right letters to make it work. try, Da Nile (the Nile) = Danile = Denile = the Nile. I thought it was a NY Jewish thing. . .since other people I say that to miss the reference too (or come to think of it, it may come from a movie.)
Oftain used as follows: "She is the queen of de-nile." Thus the double meaning in both refering to someone as a snobby person who does not take responsibility <Cleopatra, queen of the nile> and to the fact that that person denies everything.
As for the interview - we will all agree that it was awful.
Damn,,, if people are actually being serious some people need to get out more and find out what some real-world ye olde sayings are,,,
Anyways,,, as for the interview,,, meh,, NBSI still holds true,,,
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Katharina Gorbacheva
Amarr
Soviet Star Federation
Celestial Frontier
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Posted - 2007.05.22 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Atius Tirawa
Edited by: Atius Tirawa on 22/05/2007 02:59:54
Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
Maby its a New York thing. . .you need to stress the right letters to make it work. try, Da Nile (the Nile) = Danile = Denile = the Nile. I thought it was a NY Jewish thing. . .since other people I say that to miss the reference too (or come to think of it, it may come from a movie.)
Oftain used as follows: "She is the queen of de-nile." Thus the double meaning in both refering to someone as a snobby person who does not take responsibility <Cleopatra, queen of the nile> and to the fact that that person denies everything.
As for the interview - we will all agree that it was awful.
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Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva
The river Nile isn't even pronounced that way, it's being pronounced like "Neal".
You're in denial.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva
The river Nile isn't even pronounced that way, it's being pronounced like "Neal".
You're in denial.
Isn't that a river in Egypt?
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Ralara
Caldari
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:20:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Santiago Cortes
I think saying an article shouldn't be published is somewhat demeaning to the work that goes into one.
The time that goes into setting up an interview, researching and debating questions in house then actually getting to do the interview and then writing it up amounts to many man hours.
Interstellar Correspondents cannot be held responsible for the answers that are provided to our questions, we are merely asking ones we think the general population of Eve would like to know.
The ten questions series has so far covered Privateers and D2, we have a third awaiting answers from BoB. It is not a news item per se, I believe that there is a degree of flexibility available to reporters within the framework provided.
IC will be working in close conjunction with Evetv and we look forward to how players will react if and when their interviews are broadcast.
I think it's more a matter of people being disappointed by the answers, rather than the questions :)
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Slate Fistcrunch
Direct Intent
Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:46:00 -
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This interview would have been 10 times more interesting and just as informative had it gone as such...
IC: What was the outcome of your assault into BoB space?
D2: I plead the fif! I plead the fif! FIVE! 1,2,3,4, fiiiif! Anything you say! FIIIF! Go ahead and ask me a question!
IC: How does...
D2: Fif! I like to show all of you a secret document! [pulls out a piece of paper saying "FiF"]
D2: Fiiiiiiiiiiiiif!
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:47:00 -
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Avon
Not trying to demonise BoBs system - for instance starting using the word client rather than pet as it seemed more neutral.... The term pet is an obvious insult.
So, the deal is more of a bsiness relationship. Alliances that can't hold an area of 0.0 pay BoB. BoB get to expand its influence and the other alliance gets access ot the serious profits of 0.0 space.
This makes sense - couple of flaws I can see in what you present, so could you clarify?
1. The real fun of 0.0 (as defined by me at least but feel lots of other 0.0 residents may agree) is the autonamy that it brings, the chance to carve out your own space and die defending it if need be and then come back for more. being a 'client' in BoB space takes away some of the best bits of 0.0 residency I would have thought.
2. BoB just come across as so arrogant the way they present themselves that I would just hate to be in a subordinate position to them. Even you, who have made an effort to discuss this seriously have said 'we like our pets and we like the term' or somesuch. If I was a 'client', 'pet', 'subordinate alliance', call it what you will, would think 'ffs, you can just **** right of you arrogant *******'. Am really not trying to start a flame ofyou or BoB here, just am honest perception.
Would also point out, that whilst you argue that it is a 'win win' situation, you just don't see any of the 'client' corps ever jumping in saying 'hey don't call us pets, BoBs great to work with and we thank them for or chance to get into 0.0'. Or maybe you do, I hardly read the forums and might have missed it.
Overall, with the way BoB space is set up, there does seem to be a clear almost feudal overlord / subordinate relationship, which precludes the alliances involved as being allies, therefore the term I would still contend is misleading. I do think 'Kingdom' or 'Empire' would be more accurate.
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Amarr
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.22 06:50:00 -
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I got about 3 questions into reading it and was just annoyed at the answers and the flow at which it was taking...i went back to mining veld 
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Posted - 2007.05.22 07:18:00 -
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as this is a somewhat political theme I have to stress that the following is my opinion and mine alone. ask officials for alliance opinion on it.
The answears were dissapointing but tbh I think it was great RP. Oppenly admitting in a RPish manner, that you suck is not easy but it was done very well.
It would be cool if we could get more of these interviews with more of the alliances (and even the smaller ones) to get a more "political" rp feeling.
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.22 07:24:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
The interview made me rofl. D2 is no longer news-worthy in any sense, especially their opinions. They will be back in Empire within the month.
D2 controlled large parts of the northern regions, built 3 titans, actually had the balls to stand up against BoB (unlike all of these now big-/smacktalking pet alliances) and is atm fighting for survival against numerous hostile groups in its space. Which part of this history is not newsworthy?
And an even better question: what exactly has Rise ever achieved to be worth a forum post, let alone a news item.
Crall back under your stone, troll.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.22 07:52:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Santiago Cortes
I think saying an article shouldn't be published is somewhat demeaning to the work that goes into one.
Interstellar Correspondents cannot be held responsible for the answers that are provided to our questions, we are merely asking ones we think the general population of Eve would like to know.
They might not be responsible for the answers but if you're taking the interview and you realize the person on the other end isn't bothering to give you a somewhat serious answer then one should simply walk away and interview someone who can be bothered to answer the questions. The last thing you should do it post it in between actually interesting news stories.
Originally by: Corvus Belli
Not trying to demonise BoBs system - for instance starting using the word client rather than pet as it seemed more neutral.... The term pet is an obvious insult.
As a pet i demand my masters call me a pet, mainly because the cryalition gets upset about their puny insults not working and the fact that they cant even hold their space while being attacked by a bunch of pets.
Originally by: Corvus Belli
1. The real fun of 0.0 (as defined by me at least but feel lots of other 0.0 residents may agree) is the autonamy that it brings, the chance to carve out your own space and die defending it if need be and then come back for more. being a 'client' in BoB space takes away some of the best bits of 0.0 residency I would have thought.
I dont see the point in investing money in infrastructure and other things only to sit around and wait for a bigger fish to drop by that likes your space because once it does, you have no chance left and you just lost a lot of money.
I live in Bob space, which means i can call on a various number or allies or Bob themselves if we cant handle it on our own.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.22 07:54:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 22/05/2007 07:53:21
Originally by: Crean NaVar
D2 controlled large parts of the northern regions, built 3 titans, actually had the balls to stand up against BoB (unlike all of these now big-/smacktalking pet alliances) and is atm fighting for survival against numerous hostile groups in its space. Which part of this history is not newsworthy?
Stood up against BoB? You mean attacked Xelas for a few weeks and failed miserably? Or how you are losing your regions almost as fast as ASCN did because you are just another empty-shell carebear alliance? Lawl.
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Valkazm
Amarr
ECP Rogues
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Posted - 2007.05.22 08:12:00 -
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well bassicly the pets got tired of being called that so they put togheter a campaign to call it the Alliance .. so now is a term mostly used by them aswell ..
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Adaris
Dark and Light inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 08:13:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Santiago Cortes
I think saying an article shouldn't be published is somewhat demeaning to the work that goes into one.
The time that goes into setting up an interview, researching and debating questions in house then actually getting to do the interview and then writing it up amounts to many man hours.
Interstellar Correspondents cannot be held responsible for the answers that are provided to our questions, we are merely asking ones we think the general population of Eve would like to know.
The ten questions series has so far covered Privateers and D2, we have a third awaiting answers from BoB. It is not a news item per se, I believe that there is a degree of flexibility available to reporters within the framework provided.
IC will be working in close conjunction with Evetv and we look forward to how players will react if and when their interviews are broadcast.
I am sure no disrespect was intended to the people at ISD (News section) who put in alot of time and effort and cannot and should not be held accountable for the answers they get from asking questions.
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Ordem dos Templarios
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Posted - 2007.05.22 08:15:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 22/05/2007 07:53:21
Originally by: Crean NaVar
D2 controlled large parts of the northern regions, built 3 titans, actually had the balls to stand up against BoB (unlike all of these now big-/smacktalking pet alliances) and is atm fighting for survival against numerous hostile groups in its space. Which part of this history is not newsworthy?
Stood up against BoB? You mean attacked Xelas for a few weeks and failed miserably? Or how you are losing your regions almost as fast as ASCN did because you are just another empty-shell carebear alliance? Lawl.
Priceless coming from RISE.
Has i said in another thread janus is now my hero,he responded quite good he dogged with sarcasm and irony i laughed hard in RL.
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Dark and Light inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 08:23:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Corvus Belli
Would also point out, that whilst you argue that it is a 'win win' situation, you just don't see any of the 'client' corps ever jumping in saying 'hey don't call us pets, BoBs great to work with and we thank them for or chance to get into 0.0'. Or maybe you do, I hardly read the forums and might have missed it.
They have spoken out to say that they are not treated like pets but like business partners, that there is a good relationship there and that outside opinions are unimportant tbh because the outside is easy to critisise on what it doesn't share. I respect that you say you have not read the forums but posts like that have been made en masse, usually in the middle of posts like this one so it would be hard to 'find' them, but not impossible if you looked.
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.22 08:23:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva
The river Nile isn't even pronounced that way, it's being pronounced like "Neal".
You mean in Arabic? Yeah, nahr l-neel.
"Inta men Masr? Keef l-neel w nahr l-layl?"
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Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.05.22 09:33:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Corvus Belli
Would also point out, that whilst you argue that it is a 'win win' situation, you just don't see any of the 'client' corps ever jumping in saying 'hey don't call us pets, BoBs great to work with and we thank them for or chance to get into 0.0'. Or maybe you do, I hardly read the forums and might have missed it.
Its easy. Many alliances/corps have a dont post in the bull**** section of the forums rule, we are not even supposed to read it, we call it the mental care program.
On a more serious note, since we are in general discussion here i can tell you that the amount of misconceptions about bob and their relationship to us "pets" is a constant source of amusement for all involved. People have a very avid imagination it seems.
Besides the whole idea about us being slaves is laughable once you get around to the fact that we are not some bunch of 2 mil SP players forced to live either here or in empire but mostly older players. We can walk out the door any time and get welcomed with open arms in other alliances which do not reside in bob space. Its our own choice that we live in bob space and fight for it, because we like to to pvp and like the people on our side.
Besides we actually appreciate the network of standings, stations and alliances bob build up, its nice to be part of such a well running and well organized machinery, especially if it fills your own pocket while still providing you with some pvp action.
Ok disclaimer: im just a lowly grunt, nothing i say is either the opinion of my corp, my alliance, THE alliance, concord, ISD or CCP. Im just rolling out some personal opinions i collected while living in bob space for many months now.
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Jaggeh
Furious Angels
Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.05.22 09:37:00 -
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tbh it was a rediculously unprofessional interview. do IC not have editors? if my local paper tried to print drivel like that the reporter would get sacked.
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BluOrange
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.22 09:53:00 -
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To ISD: I think if you explained how the ten questions format works, it might help matters. Your reply in this thread suggests that it's not conducted like a regular interview where the interviewer has the freedom to choose what question to ask next.
To those saying this shouldn't be published: Major news sources often report interviews with political figures where similar answers are given. Perhaps senior alliance members are in political roles?
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eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:13:00 -
[55]
there is no bob
- Gob
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Adaris
Dark and Light inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:22:00 -
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With the article in mind, I thought it was lacking substance. I thought the IC did ask some good questions, that D2 could have answered much better instead of basically saying, 'Here I want to show you my ball, my ball is red, don't you like my ball? Lets talk about my ball. Did I mention it was red? Its my ball you see, my red ball, which I like.'
I put this down to the fact that the D2 rep didn't actually have anything of true substance to say about the questions asked. In which case, he effectivly wasted the time of the ISD IC interviewer and my time for reading it. I would have thought D2 would have taken this more seriously.
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HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.22 10:34:00 -
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A good interview is open with subtle topic highlights, letting the interviewee be open and broad with their answers. Offers the opportunity to show what you and yours fly for and to discuss what your really about.
Don't blame the reporter when the interviewee instead decides to be an ***hat, play vague and beat around the bush. 
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w0rmy
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.22 11:04:00 -
[58]
Originally by: DeadWeight
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
Are you for real?
Originally by: CCP Oveur
I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
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Posted - 2007.05.22 11:26:00 -
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IC: How has D2 responded to Triumvirate's claim to Venal?
D2: Venal is traditionally home by the Gursitas Faction and because of this they have to reply in such matters. It was always policy by Dusk and Dawn not to interfere in politics of other alliances and factions.
IC: I can understand that, How are you working together with your southern allies?
D2: ... As you know they live on the other side of the universe, and they show their success in their own ways to reach their goals.
D2: The outposts are a shared property of all corporations within our state. This means all income goes in charity programs ...
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Absolutely hilarious interview! I like it much!
I had a good laugh and i think it was intended (at least by D2) to be funny
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Goktar illiat
Gallente
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 12:21:00 -
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You're all so EMO ...
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TRYPTIC
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.05.22 12:44:00 -
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The impression I got was that the interviewer was trying to avoid asking Janus any questions that were too perceptive and risk Janus's simply refusing to answer.
The end result was a worthless use of space on the news page.
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Nocturnal Avenger
The Ankou
The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
ROFL - that's one of the best (and appropriate) replies I have seen in a long time.
It's going to be added to my "words of wisdom.doc" file :)
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Stood up against BoB? You mean attacked Xelas for a few weeks and failed miserably? Or how you are losing your regions almost as fast as ASCN did because you are just another empty-shell carebear alliance? Enjoy Empire. Lawl.
I know where D2 failed. That was not what I was asking. My question was simple: What did Rise ever achieve to give you the right to talk big on these forums? Was getting beaten all over the place by the old NORAD guys your highlight? Or running away and bying space in BoB territory?
IŠll answer the question myself: you achieved nothing. You are just another bigmouthed nobody surfing on the wave of success of other people.
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D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:32:00 -
[64]
Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
Lol. You're a moron.
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Back on topic. "We didn't want Venal anyway" is what i gathered from that interview.
Originally by: Benglada
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Crean NaVar
IŠll answer the question myself: you achieved nothing. You are just another bigmouthed nobody surfing on the wave of success of other people.
Well, they did something right, because they prosper whilst you perish.
Remember, war isn't decided by who is right, but rather by who is left.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
You're smarter than that DS, pun again and I'm afraid I'll have to take a pound of flesh as retribution.
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LC Sulla
Caldari
House Mekarae
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Posted - 2007.05.22 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
anyway, the interview is stupid and i have no idea why it was even posted.
I have to agree. When it was first posted I didn't know whether it was just a troll or a proper interview. Needless to say I was stunned to see it in the 'official' news.
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.22 17:30:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Avon
Well, they did something right, because they prosper whilst you perish.
Remember, war isn't decided by who is right, but rather by who is left.
IŠd choose to loose a war and rebuild over their kind of prosperity all the time, wouldnŠt you Avon? History will forget them.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 17:46:00 -
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Absolutely the correct atitude as far as I am concerned Creon.
A quote that those from the US might recognise
"We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again"
General Nathaniel Green
It was that attitude that won American independence.
Well that and relying on the French for help.......
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Earthan
Gallente
The Absolutely Amazing Fire Eaters
Breidablik
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Posted - 2007.05.22 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Crean NaVar
Originally by: Avon
Well, they did something right, because they prosper whilst you perish.
Remember, war isn't decided by who is right, but rather by who is left.
IŠd choose to loose a war and rebuild over their kind of prosperity all the time, wouldnŠt you Avon? History will forget them.
nice:)
Nice to see you Crean :) , i persoanlly very much liked the interview.
Turth is i think it topped me in the direction to rejoin the Grey Council , become Sparta therefore help the anti-bob block.
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Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.22 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 22/05/2007 18:43:41
Originally by: Crean NaVar
I know where D2 failed. That was not what I was asking. My question was simple: What did Rise ever achieve to give you the right to talk big on these forums? Was getting beaten all over the place by the old NORAD guys your highlight? Or running away and bying space in BoB territory?
I guess defending our core systems, as well as acting as support, against 3 months of assault by Goonswarm, Red Alliance, Intrepid Crossing, Ka-Tet, Moris Mihi, RAZOR, and various other smaller alliances, outnumbered 10-1 most of the time, is something someone in your alliance would not understand since you have done nothing but consistently fail in military action and lost your regions to your enemies.
RISE and our allies are all part in the Great Coalition Humiliation, like it or not, your side has been crushed, and everyone in the Alliance has played their part. Not to mention the fact, that I ever said RISE was new article worthy, I just stated D2 surely is not, and frankly, never were. Your time had been coming for a long time now. Maybe you should of thought about how you treated you allies such as RISE and You What many months ago, but I guess hindsight is 20/20.
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Caldari
Darklite inc
Darklite Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 19:13:00 -
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I think everyone is getting a little off topic and onto another bashing.
The interview may have a left something to be desired but if u actually read into it you may find what their really trying to say.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Smelt Down on 22/05/2007 19:14:30
It is obvious the interviewer was pretty pro-BoB. Every question (at least the first half) was pretty much just a subtle jab against D2. "How does the loss of 3 corporations and a titan affect your ability to fight this war?" "What was the outcome of your assault into BoB space?" "How has D2 responded to Triumvirate's claim to Venal?"
These are all dumb questions that the interviewer (and most people involved in the conflict) know the answer too, yet he is just trying to get D2 to admit they are losing.
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Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.05.22 19:48:00 -
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Quote:
They might not be responsible for the answers but if you're taking the interview and you realize the person on the other end isn't bothering to give you a somewhat serious answer then one should simply walk away and interview someone who can be bothered to answer the questions. The last thing you should do it post it in between actually interesting news stories.
As I stated previously, the time taken to set up an interview, do it, write it up then edit it, not even taking into account managing to get reporter and interviewee online at the same time means that our ability to say nah this isn't going well, screw it is a little compromised.
Volunteers have to do a flexible minimum of six hours per week, sadly I am unable to ***** a whip and get them to put in 40+ a week, we reserve that for Tsuki :D
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Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
Com'mon man, your Sox got a 9.5 game lead. Life is good, don't be so bitter.
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Exploited
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Smelt Down
Edited by: Smelt Down on 22/05/2007 19:14:30
It is obvious the interviewer was pretty pro-BoB. Every question (at least the first half) was pretty much just a subtle jab against D2. "How does the loss of 3 corporations and a titan affect your ability to fight this war?" "What was the outcome of your assault into BoB space?" "How has D2 responded to Triumvirate's claim to Venal?"
These are all dumb questions that the interviewer (and most people involved in the conflict) know the answer too, yet he is just trying to get D2 to admit they are losing.
What questions would you have asked then? If you can do better why not sign up as a IG reporter?
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Caldari
Special Projects Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Corvus Belli
Jotan
Am not completely clueless but like to think am not trolling either. Call it being slightly contentious to hopefully spark debate......
Am interested in your reply however. I can understand BoB paying some people to fight - makes sense to subsidise good PvP corps / or alliance so they are fighting full time. I was not aware however that other alliances paid BoB? What for exactly? Is it a staight forward 'give us Tribute and do what we say and we will not kick you in the goolies' kind of deal? Or is there more of a quid pro quo going on?
As for the rest of the interview - would agree that it was not journalism of the highest order. Also agree that the D2 chappie was far to evasive. He would have been far better to have leveled and said 'yup, we gave it a good ***** invading BoB space and took a bit of a kicking. With the support of our allies and our massive industrial background we will match BoB if they try and come at us' sort of thing.
Or more in character if he had prefered.
As for the people that asked what my original point was. Publishing this interview just seems to be part of an effort to normalise the anti BoB war - or more specifically the back ground reasons for it.
Ah, as someone implied, maybe I am just paranoid, now where is my tn foil
hat.......
there are a lot of corps that rent space in 0.0 off the holding alliance.
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Gallente Stripping Agency
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:41:00 -
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It doesnt matter what D2 said in that interview they still would have been smaked from The Alliance, So he made a joke out of the whole thing if you cant see that you truly are sad/lame
oh yes WTS: sense of humour
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Exortius Amarrus
Originally by: DeadWeight
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The interview seems to prove once again that Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The river is called the "Nile" or the "River Nile". Please get it right and stop perpuating this lame phrase. There is no river in Egypt called "Denial". You seem like an educated person DS, please act like one.
I'm laughing so hard, I almost choked on a pork chop.
Wow,
Just...
Wow.
Don't attack people for not knowing idioms. They are not commonly taught in foreign language instruction and are not universal to all dialects of a language. If you are familiar with how the river is correctly pronounced in Arabic, the expression makes no sense at all.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:52:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Don't attack people for not knowing idioms. They are not commonly taught in foreign language instruction and are not universal to all dialects of a language. If you are familiar with how the river is correctly pronounced in Arabic, the expression makes no sense at all.
Are you seriously defending the guy who came in here throwing a hissy fit on a public forum about an expression he did not understand? Lmao.
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Major Hill
Caldari
The Knights Templar
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.23 04:00:00 -
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We'll this thread was a huge waste of time to read.
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Tod Klemp
Gallente
K-Street Project
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Posted - 2007.05.23 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Major Hill
We'll this thread was a huge waste of time to read.
Good work d2 and ally's for at least having the courage to stand up to BOB and pets.
By standup you mean beating their chest on the forums then getting rolled up by the same people they just mocked on the forums. Yes, well done indeed.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.23 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Crean NaVar
Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Stood up against BoB? You mean attacked Xelas for a few weeks and failed miserably? Or how you are losing your regions almost as fast as ASCN did because you are just another empty-shell carebear alliance? Enjoy Empire. Lawl.
I know where D2 failed. That was not what I was asking. My question was simple: What did Rise ever achieve to give you the right to talk big on these forums? Was getting beaten all over the place by the old NORAD guys your highlight? Or running away and bying space in BoB territory?
IŠll answer the question myself: you achieved nothing. You are just another bigmouthed nobody surfing on the wave of success of other people.
So long as you know DG and I still love you Crean, all will be well 
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