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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2004.01.08 16:32:00 - [151]

the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps



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Posted - 2004.01.08 16:32:00 - [152]

the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps
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Posted - 2004.01.08 18:43:00 - [153]

Although my corpmates might shoot me for this one :

With PE5/Research5/Metallurgy5 (not sure which of those matter, I am NOT a manufacturer!

ATTRIBUTES:
Manufacturing time: 3,000
Wastage Factor: 0.1
Research Material Time: 12,000
Research Production Time: 18,000
Research Copy TIme: 36,000

MANUFACTURING:
Skills:
Industry, level 5
Mechanical Engineering, level 1
Nanite Engineering, level 1

Materials
Megacyte: 2
Morphite: 2
Nanoelectrical Microprocessor: 1
Pyerite: 117
R.A.M.- Armor/Hull Tech: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)
Robotics: 2
Small Armor Repairer I: 1 (SEE BELOW)
Tritanium: 92

COPYING
Skills
Mechanical Engineering: level 3
Nanite Engineering: level 3

Materials
Data Sheets: 10
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)

RESEARCH MATERIALS
Skills
Metallurgy: level 5
Mechanical Engineering: level 2
Nanite Engineering: level 2

Materials
Consumer Electronics: 1
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 0.5%)
Reports - 1

RESEARCH PRODUCTION
Skills
Research: level 5
Mechanical Engineering: level 3
Nanite Engineering: level 3

Materials
Consumer Electronics: 1
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 0.75%)
Reports - 1

Small Repairer I | Small Repairer II | Medium Repairer I
40 energy 40 energy 160 energy
60 HP 80 HP 240 HP
5TF 5TF 50TF
5MW 7MW 150MW
Repair Systems I Repair Systems III RS1


Sorry if the formatting gets a little weird.
Muchas thanks to Crescend, from Zitek, for doing all of this research, and the proto-type of Zitek's first tech2 BP, a small armor repairer 2.




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Posted - 2004.01.08 18:43:00 - [154]

Although my corpmates might shoot me for this one :

With PE5/Research5/Metallurgy5 (not sure which of those matter, I am NOT a manufacturer!

ATTRIBUTES:
Manufacturing time: 3,000
Wastage Factor: 0.1
Research Material Time: 12,000
Research Production Time: 18,000
Research Copy TIme: 36,000

MANUFACTURING:
Skills:
Industry, level 5
Mechanical Engineering, level 1
Nanite Engineering, level 1

Materials
Megacyte: 2
Morphite: 2
Nanoelectrical Microprocessor: 1
Pyerite: 117
R.A.M.- Armor/Hull Tech: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)
Robotics: 2
Small Armor Repairer I: 1 (SEE BELOW)
Tritanium: 92

COPYING
Skills
Mechanical Engineering: level 3
Nanite Engineering: level 3

Materials
Data Sheets: 10
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)

RESEARCH MATERIALS
Skills
Metallurgy: level 5
Mechanical Engineering: level 2
Nanite Engineering: level 2

Materials
Consumer Electronics: 1
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 0.5%)
Reports - 1

RESEARCH PRODUCTION
Skills
Research: level 5
Mechanical Engineering: level 3
Nanite Engineering: level 3

Materials
Consumer Electronics: 1
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 0.75%)
Reports - 1

Small Repairer I | Small Repairer II | Medium Repairer I
40 energy 40 energy 160 energy
60 HP 80 HP 240 HP
5TF 5TF 50TF
5MW 7MW 150MW
Repair Systems I Repair Systems III RS1


Sorry if the formatting gets a little weird.
Muchas thanks to Crescend, from Zitek, for doing all of this research, and the proto-type of Zitek's first tech2 BP, a small armor repairer 2.




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Posted - 2004.01.08 18:54:00 - [155]

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Data Sheets: 10



Anyone want to buy some data sheets? Wink

And here was me thinking they'd only be worth 150 credits each and muttering about my agent for giving me a few thousand. Laughing
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9th Fleet

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Posted - 2004.01.08 18:54:00 - [156]

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Data Sheets: 10



Anyone want to buy some data sheets? Wink

And here was me thinking they'd only be worth 150 credits each and muttering about my agent for giving me a few thousand. Laughing
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:03:00 - [157]

Edited by: Maggot on 08/01/2004 19:04:41
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the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps


However there are some R&D agents in 0.0 space if that is what you are looking for.
Maggot
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Ushra'Khan

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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:03:00 - [158]

Edited by: Maggot on 08/01/2004 19:04:41
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the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps


However there are some R&D agents in 0.0 space if that is what you are looking for.
Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:10:00 - [159]

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wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

Why am i not surprised that my Rifter is the diametric opposite of that loadout Twisted Evil

vampire! vampire! vampiiIIIEEEEE next time WARN me when you hit the MWD!!



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Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan

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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:10:00 - [160]

Quote:
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wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

Why am i not surprised that my Rifter is the diametric opposite of that loadout Twisted Evil

vampire! vampire! vampiiIIIEEEEE next time WARN me when you hit the MWD!!
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:12:00 - [161]

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yeah my agent just mailed me saying we have got the X Large Shield Booster II BP but I have just rejected it because I only fly cruisers, I hope he will now get me a medium one ?

Do you think this might happen ?

are you taking the **** or did you just throw away a fortune Laughing



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Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan

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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:12:00 - [162]

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yeah my agent just mailed me saying we have got the X Large Shield Booster II BP but I have just rejected it because I only fly cruisers, I hope he will now get me a medium one ?

Do you think this might happen ?

are you taking the **** or did you just throw away a fortune Laughing
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.08 20:37:00 - [163]

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R.A.M.- Armor/Hull Tech: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)
...
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)



Hrm... Was afraid of that. Agents are putting these materials out in stupid proportions for something repairable.

I've got at least 30 of every corp's R.Db. Some well over 100. Same with R.A.M. tools.

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Light Brigade Industries L.L.C.

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Posted - 2004.01.08 20:37:00 - [164]

Quote:

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R.A.M.- Armor/Hull Tech: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)
...
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)



Hrm... Was afraid of that. Agents are putting these materials out in stupid proportions for something repairable.

I've got at least 30 of every corp's R.Db. Some well over 100. Same with R.A.M. tools.

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.08 20:39:00 - [165]

Quote:
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wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

Why am i not surprised that my Rifter is the diametric opposite of that loadout Twisted Evil

vampire! vampire! vampiiIIIEEEEE next time WARN me when you hit the MWD!!


I plan for running into Kestrels. Oddly, they're not very threatening with that setup.

Kinda crunchy and needs salt, actually Twisted Evil

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
Jash Illian
Jash Illian
Minmatar
Light Brigade Industries L.L.C.

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Posted - 2004.01.08 20:39:00 - [166]

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

Why am i not surprised that my Rifter is the diametric opposite of that loadout Twisted Evil

vampire! vampire! vampiiIIIEEEEE next time WARN me when you hit the MWD!!


I plan for running into Kestrels. Oddly, they're not very threatening with that setup.

Kinda crunchy and needs salt, actually Twisted Evil

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:27:00 - [167]

Hm. Remember, though, that the item he's got there is something that, ideally, is produced in large quantities -- small armor repairer II and all. Ships and the like presumably (hopefully?) do more damage to the gear.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:27:00 - [168]

Hm. Remember, though, that the item he's got there is something that, ideally, is produced in large quantities -- small armor repairer II and all. Ships and the like presumably (hopefully?) do more damage to the gear.
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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:15:00 - [169]

I'm in the same boat as Jash, I have about 10 out of 12 of all the databases, and 7 out of 8 of the tools (for some strange reasons I never ever get the Ram Electronics). I've got dozens of em all, probably about 50 average of all the toolkits, 40 average for the databases.

If theyre repairable whats the point? Unless the repair costs are really high then effectively its just a saturated market, noone will need this many or buy them.

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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:15:00 - [170]

I'm in the same boat as Jash, I have about 10 out of 12 of all the databases, and 7 out of 8 of the tools (for some strange reasons I never ever get the Ram Electronics). I've got dozens of em all, probably about 50 average of all the toolkits, 40 average for the databases.

If theyre repairable whats the point? Unless the repair costs are really high then effectively its just a saturated market, noone will need this many or buy them.

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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:32:00 - [171]

"R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)"

what does this damage per turn mean?
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Ka-Tet

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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:32:00 - [172]

"R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)"

what does this damage per turn mean?
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:02:00 - [173]

Quote:
"R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)"

what does this damage per turn mean?


Allegedly that for every batch you create with the tool, the tool takes damage until the damage totals 100%. Which renders the tool unusable.

But also 'allegedly' the tools are repairable. Which would prolly mean of the close to 100 R.Db Core Complexion Inc tools I have, I'd need max 12 (one for every factory/lab slot Mass Production/Lab Ops 5 allows).

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
Jash Illian
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Minmatar
Light Brigade Industries L.L.C.

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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:02:00 - [174]

Quote:
"R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)"

what does this damage per turn mean?


Allegedly that for every batch you create with the tool, the tool takes damage until the damage totals 100%. Which renders the tool unusable.

But also 'allegedly' the tools are repairable. Which would prolly mean of the close to 100 R.Db Core Complexion Inc tools I have, I'd need max 12 (one for every factory/lab slot Mass Production/Lab Ops 5 allows).

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Posted - 2004.01.09 04:54:00 - [175]

T2 BPs info thread: here
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ShyLion
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Alektorophobia

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Posted - 2004.01.09 04:54:00 - [176]

T2 BPs info thread: here
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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:18:00 - [177]

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If theyre repairable whats the point? Unless the repair costs are really high then effectively its just a saturated market, noone will need this many or buy them.



Does anyone has THE COST of repairing them? I would suspect that the bablancing would be in the amount of ISK it take to repair them against just killing them of and using a new one.

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Qual
Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research

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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:18:00 - [178]

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If theyre repairable whats the point? Unless the repair costs are really high then effectively its just a saturated market, noone will need this many or buy them.



Does anyone has THE COST of repairing them? I would suspect that the bablancing would be in the amount of ISK it take to repair them against just killing them of and using a new one.



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Serova
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Posted - 2004.01.09 08:44:00 - [179]

One thing about large quantities of the RAM's might be that more sophisticated items wear them out faster, and if you want to produce more than 100 (at 1% damage per run) you'll need more... there might also be a small chance of higher damage to the tool, or even a breakdown of functionality until repaired.

If logic has anything to do with it, ships will definitly wear out the RAM's in larger quantities


Serova
Serova
Amarr
Independent Manufacturers

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Posted - 2004.01.09 08:44:00 - [180]

One thing about large quantities of the RAM's might be that more sophisticated items wear them out faster, and if you want to produce more than 100 (at 1% damage per run) you'll need more... there might also be a small chance of higher damage to the tool, or even a breakdown of functionality until repaired.

If logic has anything to do with it, ships will definitly wear out the RAM's in larger quantities


   
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