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Helison
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:24:00 - [1]

Edited by: Helison on 07/01/2004 20:29:03
I just got a message from my research agent:
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2004.01.07 20:03:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Micro Photon Smartbomb II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.


Ok, the Micro Photon Smartbomb II is not very good, but better than nothing.

Helison
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:24:00 - [2]

Edited by: Helison on 07/01/2004 20:29:03
I just got a message from my research agent:
Quote:
2004.01.07 20:03:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Micro Photon Smartbomb II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.


Ok, the Micro Photon Smartbomb II is not very good, but better than nothing.

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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:34:00 - [3]

Nice Smile


I hope my corp gets something soon Wink
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:34:00 - [4]

Nice Smile


I hope my corp gets something soon Wink
Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:43:00 - [5]

Yes sooner than I thought. Money time and perfect timing for my Negotiations 5

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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:43:00 - [6]

Yes sooner than I thought. Money time and perfect timing for my Negotiations 5

New NPC Region
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:44:00 - [7]

more info please Helison

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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:44:00 - [8]

Time to put my tech 2 bundle on escrow Wink
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:44:00 - [9]

Time to put my tech 2 bundle on escrow Wink
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:44:00 - [10]

more info please Helison

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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:45:00 - [11]

wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:45:00 - [12]

wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.
Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:46:00 - [13]

Please put any information from the BP on this thread Please.
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:46:00 - [14]

Please put any information from the BP on this thread Please.
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Kozak
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:54:00 - [15]

I hope I get a Nosferatu II BP. I want to not use it so bad...
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:54:00 - [16]

I hope I get a Nosferatu II BP. I want to not use it so bad...

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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:56:00 - [17]

Edited by: Helison on 07/01/2004 21:01:41
I have to admit: I declined the BP. Wink

The Micro Photon Smartbomb is not really what I¦m looking for.
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:56:00 - [18]

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wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:56:00 - [19]

Edited by: Helison on 07/01/2004 21:01:41
I have to admit: I declined the BP. Wink

The Micro Photon Smartbomb is not really what I¦m looking for.
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.01.07 20:56:00 - [20]

Quote:
wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
Tanner Mirabel
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:23:00 - [21]

me too

2004.01.07 20:03:00
Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Thermic Plating II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

now everyone needs Thermic Plating, dont they??

Im still thinking about it. If I take it I can start a new project, If I dont take it what are the chances of getting something better later?
Tanner Mirabel
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Universal Exports

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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:23:00 - [22]

me too

2004.01.07 20:03:00
Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Thermic Plating II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

now everyone needs Thermic Plating, dont they??

Im still thinking about it. If I take it I can start a new project, If I dont take it what are the chances of getting something better later?
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:29:00 - [23]

Thermical Platin II is surely more usefull than a micro smartbomb ;)
Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:29:00 - [24]

Could you people getting bp offers please also post what skill you were researching? That way we can do better assumptions on what we may get from a research skill.

Thanks!

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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:29:00 - [25]

Edited by: Wraeththu on 07/01/2004 21:30:59
For pete's sake.. There's like 400 some BPs on the market, and nobody uses half of that crap. But now they wanted to leak them in through agents so that they rounded out agent's being something other than implant givers, and everyone was all happy they had a shot at it something unique. Then people complained "you didn't deliver us Castor!" becaused they didn't get a tech II bp, and now people are upset because they got one and it wasn't what they wanted?

It's like "man, I only one 1 Mil in my lottery? But I wanted 256 Mil instead! I got cheated!"

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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:29:00 - [26]

Thermical Platin II is surely more usefull than a micro smartbomb ;)
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:29:00 - [27]

Edited by: Wraeththu on 07/01/2004 21:30:59
For pete's sake.. There's like 400 some BPs on the market, and nobody uses half of that crap. But now they wanted to leak them in through agents so that they rounded out agent's being something other than implant givers, and everyone was all happy they had a shot at it something unique. Then people complained "you didn't deliver us Castor!" becaused they didn't get a tech II bp, and now people are upset because they got one and it wasn't what they wanted?

It's like "man, I only one 1 Mil in my lottery? But I wanted 256 Mil instead! I got cheated!"

Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:29:00 - [28]

Could you people getting bp offers please also post what skill you were researching? That way we can do better assumptions on what we may get from a research skill.

Thanks!

Fausto
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:30:00 - [29]

Edited by: Fausto on 07/01/2004 21:32:50
Just take it people, whatever it is. If you don't then we will end up getting same BPs noone wants. It will go in circles.

For those who are willing: I will pay every single unwanted tech2 BP 5,000,000 isk - even the crappiest one. So please accept your reward.
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:30:00 - [30]

Edited by: Fausto on 07/01/2004 21:32:50
Just take it people, whatever it is. If you don't then we will end up getting same BPs noone wants. It will go in circles.

For those who are willing: I will pay every single unwanted tech2 BP 5,000,000 isk - even the crappiest one. So please accept your reward.
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Tovin
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:32:00 - [31]

I received a small armor repairer 2 bp. Production should start very soon.

I was researching mechanical engineering.


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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:32:00 - [32]

I received a small armor repairer 2 bp. Production should start very soon.

I was researching mechanical engineering.


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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:36:00 - [33]

Hmm Question to Helison.. What "Relevant" skill were you doing with that agent?
(IE: Photon Physics Level 3)?
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Jash Illian the Minmatar said:
Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

my Rifter is:

2 280mm Scout Artillery Howitzer
1 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher (3x Defenders)
1 TE-2100 Missile Bay (2x Heavy Missile)

5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers..
Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer.

My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period.
Expires on 19. September 2004
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:36:00 - [34]

Hmm Question to Helison.. What "Relevant" skill were you doing with that agent?
(IE: Photon Physics Level 3)?
Quote:
Jash Illian the Minmatar said:
Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

my Rifter is:

2 280mm Scout Artillery Howitzer
1 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher (3x Defenders)
1 TE-2100 Missile Bay (2x Heavy Missile)

5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers..
Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer.

My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period.
Expires on 19. September 2004
Tanner Mirabel
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:44:00 - [35]

Molecular Engineering for the Thermic Plating
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:44:00 - [36]

Molecular Engineering for the Thermic Plating
VOTM
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:52:00 - [37]

Of course CCP aren't going to be giving out the really good stuff first off, because then no-one will bother accepting the "lame" BP's the agents offer. They will either stop doing the missions when they have what they want or do this;

Player X recieved "Uber l33t Tachyon II" bp from their research agent, and is next offered "Basic Pulse Maser II" from the same agent. Are they going to accept it? Like hell they are, they've got good stuff before and they think they'll get it again so it will end up with all of the lesser used BP's doing the rounds.

P.s. Someone should make a thread where everyone with TL2 bp's can post the stats and skills etc,
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:52:00 - [38]

Of course CCP aren't going to be giving out the really good stuff first off, because then no-one will bother accepting the "lame" BP's the agents offer. They will either stop doing the missions when they have what they want or do this;

Player X recieved "Uber l33t Tachyon II" bp from their research agent, and is next offered "Basic Pulse Maser II" from the same agent. Are they going to accept it? Like hell they are, they've got good stuff before and they think they'll get it again so it will end up with all of the lesser used BP's doing the rounds.

P.s. Someone should make a thread where everyone with TL2 bp's can post the stats and skills etc,
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:53:00 - [39]

Edited by: Ezra on 07/01/2004 21:55:31
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Molecular Engineering for the Thermic Plating

What corp?

Same goes for the others, what corp were you running for in addition to the skill? (I'm trying to build a list of this stuff for future reference and pattern analysis)

More importantly, did the R.DB required for researching/copying the BP match the corp of the agent that gave you the BP?
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:53:00 - [40]

Edited by: Ezra on 07/01/2004 21:55:31
Quote:
Molecular Engineering for the Thermic Plating

What corp?

Same goes for the others, what corp were you running for in addition to the skill? (I'm trying to build a list of this stuff for future reference and pattern analysis)

More importantly, did the R.DB required for researching/copying the BP match the corp of the agent that gave you the BP?
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Helison
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:58:00 - [41]

High Energy Tech for Duvolle Labs.
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Posted - 2004.01.07 21:58:00 - [42]

High Energy Tech for Duvolle Labs.
Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:01:00 - [43]

Hehe.

Ezra, you and me seem to be the "real researchers" here - the moment someone gets a research result we start doing "meta-research" on it ;)

Good ideas with the corp and research database questions.

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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:01:00 - [44]

Hehe.

Ezra, you and me seem to be the "real researchers" here - the moment someone gets a research result we start doing "meta-research" on it ;)

Good ideas with the corp and research database questions.

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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:10:00 - [45]

Would one dare to ask how many RPs u gained when u retrieved your BPs? Question
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There is a fine line between gate camping and just standing by a gate, looking like an idiot...
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:10:00 - [46]

Would one dare to ask how many RPs u gained when u retrieved your BPs? Question
........
There's a thin line between professional gate camping and just standing by a gate looking like an idiot...
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:13:00 - [47]

cant wait to fly new frigates...
comon tech 2!
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:13:00 - [48]

cant wait to fly new frigates...
comon tech 2!
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:45:00 - [49]

Edited by: Ezra on 07/01/2004 22:47:07
Quote:
High Energy Tech for Duvolle Labs.

Does it require a Duvolle R.DB for copying/researching or another corp?

Er, wait, you declined it. Damn. Forgot that. :(
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:45:00 - [50]

Edited by: Ezra on 07/01/2004 22:47:07
Quote:
High Energy Tech for Duvolle Labs.

Does it require a Duvolle R.DB for copying/researching or another corp?

Er, wait, you declined it. Damn. Forgot that. :(
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:55:00 - [51]

Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.

Smile
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:55:00 - [52]

Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.

Smile
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:58:00 - [53]

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Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.



Good choice. I love those things on my speed-mission frigates.
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Posted - 2004.01.07 22:58:00 - [54]

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Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.



Good choice. I love those things on my speed-mission frigates.
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:54:00 - [55]

I would be interested to know what kind of minerals/tools these blueprints require :)
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:54:00 - [56]

I would be interested to know what kind of minerals/tools these blueprints require :)
Originally by: Sun Tzu
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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:58:00 - [57]

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Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.

Smile


Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?
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Antonio Fratianni Corp

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Posted - 2004.01.07 23:58:00 - [58]

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Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.

Smile


Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:03:00 - [59]

The Thermic Plating was with Core Complexion.

After much thought I turned it down. A hard choice as it was with a lvl 2 agent who only has lvl 1 in the skill and I would have liked to move on to a better agent but I want something that Im going to be able to use. I dont expect anything amazing but I want something that will do more than look nice in my hanger. I know I could be waiting a long long time for another chance in the lottery and might not get anything better offered but those are the risks.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:03:00 - [60]

The Thermic Plating was with Core Complexion.

After much thought I turned it down. A hard choice as it was with a lvl 2 agent who only has lvl 1 in the skill and I would have liked to move on to a better agent but I want something that Im going to be able to use. I dont expect anything amazing but I want something that will do more than look nice in my hanger. I know I could be waiting a long long time for another chance in the lottery and might not get anything better offered but those are the risks.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:06:00 - [61]

Quote:
Quote:
Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.

Smile


Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?


29RPs after one day's research apparently - makes you (not me because he's in my corp ) sick doesn't it...still that's why it's a lottery I guess. On the plus side all of these seem to be frigate sized items, so maybe as time goes by the bigger totals will result in cruiser/indi/BS sized items.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:06:00 - [62]

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Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?

I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:06:00 - [63]

Quote:
Quote:
Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.

Smile


Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?


29RPs after one day's research apparently - makes you (not me because he's in my corp ) sick doesn't it...still that's why it's a lottery I guess. On the plus side all of these seem to be frigate sized items, so maybe as time goes by the bigger totals will result in cruiser/indi/BS sized items.
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Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?

I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.
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Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.

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Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?


That caught my attention too. What exactly does that mean? I thought we lost all RPs when accepting a bp.
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Ah, I got my hands on a Micro Capacitor Battery II BP...
Had to offer 29 RPs, though.

Smile


Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?


That caught my attention too. What exactly does that mean? I thought we lost all RPs when accepting a bp.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:13:00 - [67]

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That caught my attention too. What exactly does that mean? I thought we lost all RPs when accepting a bp.

You are correct. I tried to explain in my second post Smile.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:13:00 - [68]

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That caught my attention too. What exactly does that mean? I thought we lost all RPs when accepting a bp.

You are correct. I tried to explain in my second post Smile.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:14:00 - [69]

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I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.


That'll show those nay-sayers. It really IS a lottery.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:14:00 - [70]

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I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.


That'll show those nay-sayers. It really IS a lottery.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:19:00 - [71]

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Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?

I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.


Rats. 1400 rp, (and only a 1x skill) and diddly to show for it.
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Err, you got that with 29 RPs? Or you had to give away 29 from your research pool?

I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.


Rats. 1400 rp, (and only a 1x skill) and diddly to show for it.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:36:00 - [73]

>> I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.

"Rats. 1400 rp, (and only a 1x skill) and diddly to show for it."


Hmm.. possibly the blueprints are agent-specific then, and those 29 points were accumulated with agent that no one else bothered with? ;s
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>> I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.

"Rats. 1400 rp, (and only a 1x skill) and diddly to show for it."


Hmm.. possibly the blueprints are agent-specific then, and those 29 points were accumulated with agent that no one else bothered with? ;s
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Posted - 2004.01.08 00:40:00 - [75]

I had under 120 rp's (between 111-120...forgot to check exact rp amount, I was so excited!!).

I was researching Mechanical Engineering.


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I had under 120 rp's (between 111-120...forgot to check exact rp amount, I was so excited!!).

I was researching Mechanical Engineering.


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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:03:00 - [77]

Is this just a fluke or are the bp¦s going to the one with the lowest research point. Only 2 have posted here how many research points they had and it¦s a rather low number.

If more people could post how many points they had when they got theyr "lottery" winnings.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:03:00 - [78]

Is this just a fluke or are the bp¦s going to the one with the lowest research point. Only 2 have posted here how many research points they had and it¦s a rather low number.

If more people could post how many points they had when they got theyr "lottery" winnings.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:05:00 - [79]

could be that the ones whit highr number get better stuf Rolling Eyes
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could be that the ones whit highr number get better stuf Rolling Eyes
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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:07:00 - [81]

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>> I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.

"Rats. 1400 rp, (and only a 1x skill) and diddly to show for it."


Hmm.. possibly the blueprints are agent-specific then, and those 29 points were accumulated with agent that no one else bothered with? ;s


Perhaps. Or also perhaps level specific? Maybe there's a good reason to do projects with a level-1 agent.

Would a recipient mind posting some more info? what level agent for instance?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:07:00 - [82]

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>> I had 29 RPs in total (started researching yesterday), and when I got the BP I had to give away all my RPs and start a new research project.

"Rats. 1400 rp, (and only a 1x skill) and diddly to show for it."


Hmm.. possibly the blueprints are agent-specific then, and those 29 points were accumulated with agent that no one else bothered with? ;s


Perhaps. Or also perhaps level specific? Maybe there's a good reason to do projects with a level-1 agent.

Would a recipient mind posting some more info? what level agent for instance?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:12:00 - [83]

Level 3 agent. Only agent in Core Complexion that does Mechanical Engineering. I've done about 15-30 missions for Core since tech2 came out. Not sure if doing constant missions with the corp makes a difference or not, in standings and such. Quality 1 agent.

Only had her for about 3 days, maybe 3 and a half?


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Level 3 agent. Only agent in Core Complexion that does Mechanical Engineering. I've done about 15-30 missions for Core since tech2 came out. Not sure if doing constant missions with the corp makes a difference or not, in standings and such. Quality 1 agent.

Only had her for about 3 days, maybe 3 and a half?


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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:30:00 - [85]

If blueprints are distributed by agent, might be a mistake to go for the best one in corp. Just competing with the largest crowd that way.

If it's true, it would lean toward it being better to pick the crappiest most out of the way agent you can find. Lot's of RPs would matter much less than finding an agent noone else is using.

Puts me on the wrong track. Sad
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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:30:00 - [86]

If blueprints are distributed by agent, might be a mistake to go for the best one in corp. Just competing with the largest crowd that way.

If it's true, it would lean toward it being better to pick the crappiest most out of the way agent you can find. Lot's of RPs would matter much less than finding an agent noone else is using.

Puts me on the wrong track. Sad
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Posted - 2004.01.08 01:37:00 - [87]

I had just over 900 RP, agent only has lvl 1 in the skill.
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I had just over 900 RP, agent only has lvl 1 in the skill.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 03:59:00 - [89]

2004.01.07 17:43:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Raven II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.


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2004.01.07 17:43:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Raven II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.


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Posted - 2004.01.08 04:12:00 - [91]

2004.01.07 16:20:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a TrollAss II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

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Posted - 2004.01.08 04:12:00 - [92]

2004.01.07 16:20:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a TrollAss II Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

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Posted - 2004.01.08 04:32:00 - [93]

If Vegeta knew anything about the way CCP has structured Tech 2, he'd know that there were no II variants of any ships.

The Tech 2 ships are completely different from the ships they are based on, and many ships have multiple tech 2 derivatives.

For example the Thorax has the Ishtar and Phobos, which both appear to be designed as missle boats.

5 hislots, 3 turret/3 launcher (i.e. you can have 2/3 or 3/2 turrets/launchers), 315 base cargo, 195 m/s base, LESS grid than the Thorax.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 04:32:00 - [94]

If Vegeta knew anything about the way CCP has structured Tech 2, he'd know that there were no II variants of any ships.

The Tech 2 ships are completely different from the ships they are based on, and many ships have multiple tech 2 derivatives.

For example the Thorax has the Ishtar and Phobos, which both appear to be designed as missle boats.

5 hislots, 3 turret/3 launcher (i.e. you can have 2/3 or 3/2 turrets/launchers), 315 base cargo, 195 m/s base, LESS grid than the Thorax.
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Hes a mookid, what do ya expect?? Rolling Eyes
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Hes a mookid, what do ya expect?? Rolling Eyes
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Posted - 2004.01.08 07:11:00 - [97]

Edited by: thirteen on 08/01/2004 07:13:10
2004.01.07 22:54:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Manticore Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

wtf is one of those???, someone said it was a new drone BP, so ive refused it Cool
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Edited by: thirteen on 08/01/2004 07:13:10
2004.01.07 22:54:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Manticore Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

wtf is one of those???, someone said it was a new drone BP, so ive refused it Cool
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Posted - 2004.01.08 07:26:00 - [99]

Manticore is a elite frigate, kestrel based...

Check eve-db.com to known what kind of reward you are getting.
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Manticore is a elite frigate, kestrel based...

Check eve-db.com to known what kind of reward you are getting.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 07:40:00 - [101]

ouch that one hurts. refusal of an elite frigate.
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ouch that one hurts. refusal of an elite frigate.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 07:46:00 - [103]

Ezra,
The stats on the elite (or tech2) cruisers are all just placeholder values.
I have found over 20 of them so far in the eve-db and all the stats on them are the same.

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Clotho - exequror
_______-exequror
Arazu - celestis
Lachesis - celestis
Phobos - thorax
Ishtar - thorax
Deimos - vexor
______ - vexor

Minmatar
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Broadsword - rupture
Muninn - rupture
Nomad - bellicose
Huginn - bellicose
Glaive - stabber
______ - stabber
Scimitar - scythe
________ - scythe

Caldari
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Obsidian - moa
Eagle - moa
Vulture - caracal
_______ - caracal
Falcon - blackbird
______ - blackbird
Basilisk - osprey
Nocturne - osprey

Amarr
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Zealot - maller
Sacrelige - maller
Infidel - omen
_______ - omen
Heretic - arbitrater
_______ - arbitrator
_______ - auguror
_______ - auguror


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Posted - 2004.01.08 07:46:00 - [104]

Ezra,
The stats on the elite (or tech2) cruisers are all just placeholder values.
I have found over 20 of them so far in the eve-db and all the stats on them are the same.

Gallente
-----------------
Clotho - exequror
_______-exequror
Arazu - celestis
Lachesis - celestis
Phobos - thorax
Ishtar - thorax
Deimos - vexor
______ - vexor

Minmatar
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Broadsword - rupture
Muninn - rupture
Nomad - bellicose
Huginn - bellicose
Glaive - stabber
______ - stabber
Scimitar - scythe
________ - scythe

Caldari
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Obsidian - moa
Eagle - moa
Vulture - caracal
_______ - caracal
Falcon - blackbird
______ - blackbird
Basilisk - osprey
Nocturne - osprey

Amarr
-----------------
Zealot - maller
Sacrelige - maller
Infidel - omen
_______ - omen
Heretic - arbitrater
_______ - arbitrator
_______ - auguror
_______ - auguror


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Posted - 2004.01.08 08:14:00 - [105]

Lets hope thirteen was kidding...
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Posted - 2004.01.08 08:14:00 - [106]

Lets hope thirteen was kidding...
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Posted - 2004.01.08 08:21:00 - [107]

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Yes thirteen, you were kidding right? Tell me that you were kidding please!!! If you were not kidding then ARGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!Razz

But let me ask again: Is that it? 5 BPs? 6? Please post if you get something. Even 20 BPs is nothing compared to player base of 5000-6000.
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Yes thirteen, you were kidding right? Tell me that you were kidding please!!! If you were not kidding then ARGHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!Razz

But let me ask again: Is that it? 5 BPs? 6? Please post if you get something. Even 20 BPs is nothing compared to player base of 5000-6000.
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Just a Quick question are these blueprints only being given out to lvl3 agents or are they being given out to any agent.

Thanks


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Just a Quick question are these blueprints only being given out to lvl3 agents or are they being given out to any agent.

Thanks


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Posted - 2004.01.08 08:32:00 - [111]

Ok, people, I see a lot of speculation on how the bps get distributed. Well its REAL simple:

Every bp is linked to one or more skills.

At some point CCP says: Lets hand out 10 Smartbomb II bps.

All players doing research in the skills needed then has a chance equal to thier rp of beeing one of the lucky winners. (This is why Starship skills has a x3 modifier. Other skills could gove ship bps as well, but the main chance should be with the ones doing Starship skills. Same goes with the x2 gun skills.)

This has nothing to do with specific agents and everythinig to do with LUCK.



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Posted - 2004.01.08 08:32:00 - [112]

Ok, people, I see a lot of speculation on how the bps get distributed. Well its REAL simple:

Every bp is linked to one or more skills.

At some point CCP says: Lets hand out 10 Smartbomb II bps.

All players doing research in the skills needed then has a chance equal to thier rp of beeing one of the lucky winners. (This is why Starship skills has a x3 modifier. Other skills could gove ship bps as well, but the main chance should be with the ones doing Starship skills. Same goes with the x2 gun skills.)

This has nothing to do with specific agents and everythinig to do with LUCK.





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2004.01.07 22:54:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Manticore Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

wtf is one of those???, someone said it was a new drone BP, so ive refused it Cool


if your serious (not troll), then i'm sorry, but you are dumb Laughing, doesn't it give you like 24 hours to accept of decline?

oh well, tough luck for you and better luck for the next person who WILL accept it.

even if it was a drone bp....think, tech 2 drone......these things always die, people will always need them...... Rolling Eyes

ha ha ha....
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Edited by: thirteen on 08/01/2004 07:13:10
2004.01.07 22:54:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Manticore Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

wtf is one of those???, someone said it was a new drone BP, so ive refused it Cool


if your serious (not troll), then i'm sorry, but you are dumb Laughing, doesn't it give you like 24 hours to accept of decline?

oh well, tough luck for you and better luck for the next person who WILL accept it.

even if it was a drone bp....think, tech 2 drone......these things always die, people will always need them...... Rolling Eyes

ha ha ha....
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Posted - 2004.01.08 09:47:00 - [115]

"Lets hope thirteen was kidding..."

... I'd guess so, Manticore requires Bombers skill to operate, and haven't seen that one available even on Chaos yet. o.o

That said, it's the one elite frigate i want so... hoping someone got that BP offer and did accept it so they appear on market soon ;.;
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"Lets hope thirteen was kidding..."

... I'd guess so, Manticore requires Bombers skill to operate, and haven't seen that one available even on Chaos yet. o.o

That said, it's the one elite frigate i want so... hoping someone got that BP offer and did accept it so they appear on market soon ;.;
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Posted - 2004.01.08 10:18:00 - [117]

I'm sorry and I don't mean to be rude but what posseses someone who is studying a Starship Engineering skill to decline a BP offer, DUHHHH!

If anyone who got a TechII bp was studying Graviton Physics I would like to know what comes of that skill.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 10:18:00 - [118]

I'm sorry and I don't mean to be rude but what posseses someone who is studying a Starship Engineering skill to decline a BP offer, DUHHHH!

If anyone who got a TechII bp was studying Graviton Physics I would like to know what comes of that skill.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:19:00 - [119]

All this talk of people getting tech 2 BPs while only having a few hundred RPs or even less makes me mad. But on the plus side with 3000 points i should have a good chance when the next batch are ready to drop Razz
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:19:00 - [120]

All this talk of people getting tech 2 BPs while only having a few hundred RPs or even less makes me mad. But on the plus side with 3000 points i should have a good chance when the next batch are ready to drop Razz
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:21:00 - [121]

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I'm sorry and I don't mean to be rude but what posseses someone who is studying a Starship Engineering skill to decline a BP offer, DUHHHH!


Not all ship bps will come from Starship Engeneering skills. Most will but some other people will get lucky too. Trust me on this one...

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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:21:00 - [122]

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I'm sorry and I don't mean to be rude but what posseses someone who is studying a Starship Engineering skill to decline a BP offer, DUHHHH!


Not all ship bps will come from Starship Engeneering skills. Most will but some other people will get lucky too. Trust me on this one...



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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:42:00 - [123]

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All this talk of people getting tech 2 BPs while only having a few hundred RPs or even less makes me mad. But on the plus side with 3000 points i should have a good chance when the next batch are ready to drop Razz


I have almost 8000 so imagine how I fell when someone refuses ship BPShocked But then again, when the time comes... whooooohooooooRazz
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Posted - 2004.01.08 11:42:00 - [124]

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All this talk of people getting tech 2 BPs while only having a few hundred RPs or even less makes me mad. But on the plus side with 3000 points i should have a good chance when the next batch are ready to drop Razz


I have almost 8000 so imagine how I fell when someone refuses ship BPShocked But then again, when the time comes... whooooohooooooRazz
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:29:00 - [125]

qual, wanna explain why u think this ?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:29:00 - [126]

qual, wanna explain why u think this ?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:33:00 - [127]

"qual, wanna explain why u think this ?"

As explained by Papa Smurf, people running projects in some research fields other that startship engineering will also be included in ship blueprint lotteries. They will have much smaller chance of winning because they don't get the research bonus, but that's where the luck factor comes into play. ;s
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:33:00 - [128]

"qual, wanna explain why u think this ?"

As explained by Papa Smurf, people running projects in some research fields other that startship engineering will also be included in ship blueprint lotteries. They will have much smaller chance of winning because they don't get the research bonus, but that's where the luck factor comes into play. ;s
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:37:00 - [129]

okie missed that...

/emote licks j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.01.08 12:37:00 - [130]

okie missed that...

/emote licks j0sephine
Qual
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Posted - 2004.01.08 13:02:00 - [131]

OK, going to make somthing clear to you that noone seems to get:

It is HIGHLY unlikely that there is any new ship bps in game.

Why?

1) They all require new ships skill, which is not in game yet.

2) They all require the Astronautic Engeneering skil, which is not in game yet.

Get the picture?

Cool

And how do i know? Well how do eve-db.com know? Be course we have looked in the game item db. Dont hold your breath for ship bps just yet...

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Qual
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Posted - 2004.01.08 13:02:00 - [132]

OK, going to make somthing clear to you that noone seems to get:

It is HIGHLY unlikely that there is any new ship bps in game.

Why?

1) They all require new ships skill, which is not in game yet.

2) They all require the Astronautic Engeneering skil, which is not in game yet.

Get the picture?

Cool

And how do i know? Well how do eve-db.com know? Be course we have looked in the game item db. Dont hold your breath for ship bps just yet...



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Posted - 2004.01.08 13:50:00 - [133]

yeah my agent just mailed me saying we have got the X Large Shield Booster II BP but I have just rejected it because I only fly cruisers, I hope he will now get me a medium one ?

Do you think this might happen ?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 13:50:00 - [134]

yeah my agent just mailed me saying we have got the X Large Shield Booster II BP but I have just rejected it because I only fly cruisers, I hope he will now get me a medium one ?

Do you think this might happen ?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 13:55:00 - [135]

Ninja, there are a lot of people who would pay (including me) a fortune for that bp!
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Posted - 2004.01.08 13:55:00 - [136]

Ninja, there are a lot of people who would pay (including me) a fortune for that bp!
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Posted - 2004.01.08 14:52:00 - [137]

Seriously, are you for real Confused
Since people pay 20M for Large C5-Ls, even more for XLarge C5-Ls, and XLarge II is even better (although has higher requirements), you could make a few and sell for 25 mil each. Of course the production cost is probably nowhere near that value...
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Posted - 2004.01.08 14:52:00 - [138]

Seriously, are you for real Confused
Since people pay 20M for Large C5-Ls, even more for XLarge C5-Ls, and XLarge II is even better (although has higher requirements), you could make a few and sell for 25 mil each. Of course the production cost is probably nowhere near that value...
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Posted - 2004.01.08 14:59:00 - [139]

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Seriously, are you for real Confused
Since people pay 20M for Large C5-Ls, even more for XLarge C5-Ls, and XLarge II is even better (although has higher requirements), you could make a few and sell for 25 mil each. Of course the production cost is probably nowhere near that value...


Read the text! He is kidding! Its called Irony!

This is how all these stupid stories start out...

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Qual
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Posted - 2004.01.08 14:59:00 - [140]

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Seriously, are you for real Confused
Since people pay 20M for Large C5-Ls, even more for XLarge C5-Ls, and XLarge II is even better (although has higher requirements), you could make a few and sell for 25 mil each. Of course the production cost is probably nowhere near that value...


Read the text! He is kidding! Its called Irony!

This is how all these stupid stories start out...



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Zopha
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Posted - 2004.01.08 15:25:00 - [141]

I think "Troll" might be a more suitable word.
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I think "Troll" might be a more suitable word.
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Posted - 2004.01.08 15:34:00 - [143]

hehh it was a joke, but it just shows that people who donot know how to find out what there t2 bp is could end up losing ALOT of iskExclamation
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hehh it was a joke, but it just shows that people who donot know how to find out what there t2 bp is could end up losing ALOT of iskExclamation
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Posted - 2004.01.08 15:50:00 - [145]

If they dont throw in the gallentaen smurgle blaster tech II BP¦s soon i¦m going to add papa to my kos list !

Evil or Very Mad
need translation ?
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If they dont throw in the gallentaen smurgle blaster tech II BP¦s soon i¦m going to add papa to my kos list !

Evil or Very Mad
need translation ?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 16:14:00 - [147]

2004.01.07 17:43:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Wolverine Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

that'dd be more like it vegeta mate Cool

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2004.01.07 17:43:00 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patententable a Wolverine Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested.

that'dd be more like it vegeta mate Cool

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I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist
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Posted - 2004.01.08 16:25:00 - [149]

Is there any need in 0.0 for tech 2 components and skills?

Are there R&D agents in 0.0 npc?
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Is there any need in 0.0 for tech 2 components and skills?

Are there R&D agents in 0.0 npc?
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Posted - 2004.01.08 16:32:00 - [151]

the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps



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Posted - 2004.01.08 16:32:00 - [152]

the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps
5 ATUK


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Posted - 2004.01.08 18:43:00 - [153]

Although my corpmates might shoot me for this one :

With PE5/Research5/Metallurgy5 (not sure which of those matter, I am NOT a manufacturer!

ATTRIBUTES:
Manufacturing time: 3,000
Wastage Factor: 0.1
Research Material Time: 12,000
Research Production Time: 18,000
Research Copy TIme: 36,000

MANUFACTURING:
Skills:
Industry, level 5
Mechanical Engineering, level 1
Nanite Engineering, level 1

Materials
Megacyte: 2
Morphite: 2
Nanoelectrical Microprocessor: 1
Pyerite: 117
R.A.M.- Armor/Hull Tech: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)
Robotics: 2
Small Armor Repairer I: 1 (SEE BELOW)
Tritanium: 92

COPYING
Skills
Mechanical Engineering: level 3
Nanite Engineering: level 3

Materials
Data Sheets: 10
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)

RESEARCH MATERIALS
Skills
Metallurgy: level 5
Mechanical Engineering: level 2
Nanite Engineering: level 2

Materials
Consumer Electronics: 1
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 0.5%)
Reports - 1

RESEARCH PRODUCTION
Skills
Research: level 5
Mechanical Engineering: level 3
Nanite Engineering: level 3

Materials
Consumer Electronics: 1
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 0.75%)
Reports - 1

Small Repairer I | Small Repairer II | Medium Repairer I
40 energy 40 energy 160 energy
60 HP 80 HP 240 HP
5TF 5TF 50TF
5MW 7MW 150MW
Repair Systems I Repair Systems III RS1


Sorry if the formatting gets a little weird.
Muchas thanks to Crescend, from Zitek, for doing all of this research, and the proto-type of Zitek's first tech2 BP, a small armor repairer 2.




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Posted - 2004.01.08 18:43:00 - [154]

Although my corpmates might shoot me for this one :

With PE5/Research5/Metallurgy5 (not sure which of those matter, I am NOT a manufacturer!

ATTRIBUTES:
Manufacturing time: 3,000
Wastage Factor: 0.1
Research Material Time: 12,000
Research Production Time: 18,000
Research Copy TIme: 36,000

MANUFACTURING:
Skills:
Industry, level 5
Mechanical Engineering, level 1
Nanite Engineering, level 1

Materials
Megacyte: 2
Morphite: 2
Nanoelectrical Microprocessor: 1
Pyerite: 117
R.A.M.- Armor/Hull Tech: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)
Robotics: 2
Small Armor Repairer I: 1 (SEE BELOW)
Tritanium: 92

COPYING
Skills
Mechanical Engineering: level 3
Nanite Engineering: level 3

Materials
Data Sheets: 10
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)

RESEARCH MATERIALS
Skills
Metallurgy: level 5
Mechanical Engineering: level 2
Nanite Engineering: level 2

Materials
Consumer Electronics: 1
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 0.5%)
Reports - 1

RESEARCH PRODUCTION
Skills
Research: level 5
Mechanical Engineering: level 3
Nanite Engineering: level 3

Materials
Consumer Electronics: 1
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 0.75%)
Reports - 1

Small Repairer I | Small Repairer II | Medium Repairer I
40 energy 40 energy 160 energy
60 HP 80 HP 240 HP
5TF 5TF 50TF
5MW 7MW 150MW
Repair Systems I Repair Systems III RS1


Sorry if the formatting gets a little weird.
Muchas thanks to Crescend, from Zitek, for doing all of this research, and the proto-type of Zitek's first tech2 BP, a small armor repairer 2.




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Posted - 2004.01.08 18:54:00 - [155]

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Data Sheets: 10



Anyone want to buy some data sheets? Wink

And here was me thinking they'd only be worth 150 credits each and muttering about my agent for giving me a few thousand. Laughing
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Data Sheets: 10



Anyone want to buy some data sheets? Wink

And here was me thinking they'd only be worth 150 credits each and muttering about my agent for giving me a few thousand. Laughing
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Posted - 2004.01.08 19:03:00 - [157]

Edited by: Maggot on 08/01/2004 19:04:41
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the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps


However there are some R&D agents in 0.0 space if that is what you are looking for.
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Edited by: Maggot on 08/01/2004 19:04:41
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However there are some R&D agents in 0.0 space if that is what you are looking for.
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wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

Why am i not surprised that my Rifter is the diametric opposite of that loadout Twisted Evil

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Quote:
Quote:
wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

Why am i not surprised that my Rifter is the diametric opposite of that loadout Twisted Evil

vampire! vampire! vampiiIIIEEEEE next time WARN me when you hit the MWD!!
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yeah my agent just mailed me saying we have got the X Large Shield Booster II BP but I have just rejected it because I only fly cruisers, I hope he will now get me a medium one ?

Do you think this might happen ?

are you taking the **** or did you just throw away a fortune Laughing



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yeah my agent just mailed me saying we have got the X Large Shield Booster II BP but I have just rejected it because I only fly cruisers, I hope he will now get me a medium one ?

Do you think this might happen ?

are you taking the **** or did you just throw away a fortune Laughing
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Posted - 2004.01.08 20:37:00 - [163]

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R.A.M.- Armor/Hull Tech: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)
...
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)



Hrm... Was afraid of that. Agents are putting these materials out in stupid proportions for something repairable.

I've got at least 30 of every corp's R.Db. Some well over 100. Same with R.A.M. tools.

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Quote:

...
R.A.M.- Armor/Hull Tech: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)
...
R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)



Hrm... Was afraid of that. Agents are putting these materials out in stupid proportions for something repairable.

I've got at least 30 of every corp's R.Db. Some well over 100. Same with R.A.M. tools.

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

Why am i not surprised that my Rifter is the diametric opposite of that loadout Twisted Evil

vampire! vampire! vampiiIIIEEEEE next time WARN me when you hit the MWD!!


I plan for running into Kestrels. Oddly, they're not very threatening with that setup.

Kinda crunchy and needs salt, actually Twisted Evil

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
wow. finally we have a slighty better version of an item no one ever uses.


Odd...my Rifter is currently:

1 280mm Scout Artillery Howizter
2 Malkuth Assault Missile Launcher I
1 Micro Photon Smartbomb I

But then again, I actually try to do something about incoming vampires. I think it'll do fairly well depending on the stats. If it can take a cruise missile out even better than expected Twisted Evil

Why am i not surprised that my Rifter is the diametric opposite of that loadout Twisted Evil

vampire! vampire! vampiiIIIEEEEE next time WARN me when you hit the MWD!!


I plan for running into Kestrels. Oddly, they're not very threatening with that setup.

Kinda crunchy and needs salt, actually Twisted Evil

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Posted - 2004.01.08 21:27:00 - [167]

Hm. Remember, though, that the item he's got there is something that, ideally, is produced in large quantities -- small armor repairer II and all. Ships and the like presumably (hopefully?) do more damage to the gear.
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Hm. Remember, though, that the item he's got there is something that, ideally, is produced in large quantities -- small armor repairer II and all. Ships and the like presumably (hopefully?) do more damage to the gear.
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I'm in the same boat as Jash, I have about 10 out of 12 of all the databases, and 7 out of 8 of the tools (for some strange reasons I never ever get the Ram Electronics). I've got dozens of em all, probably about 50 average of all the toolkits, 40 average for the databases.

If theyre repairable whats the point? Unless the repair costs are really high then effectively its just a saturated market, noone will need this many or buy them.

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Posted - 2004.01.09 00:15:00 - [170]

I'm in the same boat as Jash, I have about 10 out of 12 of all the databases, and 7 out of 8 of the tools (for some strange reasons I never ever get the Ram Electronics). I've got dozens of em all, probably about 50 average of all the toolkits, 40 average for the databases.

If theyre repairable whats the point? Unless the repair costs are really high then effectively its just a saturated market, noone will need this many or buy them.

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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:32:00 - [171]

"R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)"

what does this damage per turn mean?
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Posted - 2004.01.09 01:32:00 - [172]

"R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)"

what does this damage per turn mean?
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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:02:00 - [173]

Quote:
"R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)"

what does this damage per turn mean?


Allegedly that for every batch you create with the tool, the tool takes damage until the damage totals 100%. Which renders the tool unusable.

But also 'allegedly' the tools are repairable. Which would prolly mean of the close to 100 R.Db Core Complexion Inc tools I have, I'd need max 12 (one for every factory/lab slot Mass Production/Lab Ops 5 allows).

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

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Posted - 2004.01.09 02:02:00 - [174]

Quote:
"R.Db - Viziam: 1 (Damage per run: 1.0%)"

what does this damage per turn mean?


Allegedly that for every batch you create with the tool, the tool takes damage until the damage totals 100%. Which renders the tool unusable.

But also 'allegedly' the tools are repairable. Which would prolly mean of the close to 100 R.Db Core Complexion Inc tools I have, I'd need max 12 (one for every factory/lab slot Mass Production/Lab Ops 5 allows).

I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann

Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante
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Posted - 2004.01.09 04:54:00 - [175]

T2 BPs info thread: here
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Posted - 2004.01.09 04:54:00 - [176]

T2 BPs info thread: here
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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:18:00 - [177]

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If theyre repairable whats the point? Unless the repair costs are really high then effectively its just a saturated market, noone will need this many or buy them.



Does anyone has THE COST of repairing them? I would suspect that the bablancing would be in the amount of ISK it take to repair them against just killing them of and using a new one.

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Posted - 2004.01.09 06:18:00 - [178]

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If theyre repairable whats the point? Unless the repair costs are really high then effectively its just a saturated market, noone will need this many or buy them.



Does anyone has THE COST of repairing them? I would suspect that the bablancing would be in the amount of ISK it take to repair them against just killing them of and using a new one.



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Posted - 2004.01.09 08:44:00 - [179]

One thing about large quantities of the RAM's might be that more sophisticated items wear them out faster, and if you want to produce more than 100 (at 1% damage per run) you'll need more... there might also be a small chance of higher damage to the tool, or even a breakdown of functionality until repaired.

If logic has anything to do with it, ships will definitly wear out the RAM's in larger quantities


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Posted - 2004.01.09 08:44:00 - [180]

One thing about large quantities of the RAM's might be that more sophisticated items wear them out faster, and if you want to produce more than 100 (at 1% damage per run) you'll need more... there might also be a small chance of higher damage to the tool, or even a breakdown of functionality until repaired.

If logic has anything to do with it, ships will definitly wear out the RAM's in larger quantities


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Posted - 2004.01.09 14:46:00 - [181]

Quoted from Majin Buu 'the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps'

This is not strictly true

So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Posted - 2004.01.09 14:46:00 - [182]

Quoted from Majin Buu 'the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps'

This is not strictly true

So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Posted - 2004.01.09 14:46:00 - [183]

Quoted from Majin Buu 'the only corps with R&D divisions are empire corps'

This is not strictly true

So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Posted - 2004.01.10 11:18:00 - [184]

Quote:
One thing about large quantities of the RAM's might be that more sophisticated items wear them out faster, and if you want to produce more than 100 (at 1% damage per run) you'll need more... there might also be a small chance of higher damage to the tool, or even a breakdown of functionality until repaired.

If logic has anything to do with it, ships will definitly wear out the RAM's in larger quantities



Then again, you could build 99 and repair the tools...

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Posted - 2004.01.10 11:18:00 - [185]

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One thing about large quantities of the RAM's might be that more sophisticated items wear them out faster, and if you want to produce more than 100 (at 1% damage per run) you'll need more... there might also be a small chance of higher damage to the tool, or even a breakdown of functionality until repaired.

If logic has anything to do with it, ships will definitly wear out the RAM's in larger quantities



Then again, you could build 99 and repair the tools...

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Posted - 2004.01.10 11:18:00 - [186]

Quote:
One thing about large quantities of the RAM's might be that more sophisticated items wear them out faster, and if you want to produce more than 100 (at 1% damage per run) you'll need more... there might also be a small chance of higher damage to the tool, or even a breakdown of functionality until repaired.

If logic has anything to do with it, ships will definitly wear out the RAM's in larger quantities



Then again, you could build 99 and repair the tools...

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Forum Necromancy ftw !
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Posted - 2006.12.14 10:59:00 - [188]

Forum Necromancy ftw !
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Posted - 2006.12.14 14:34:00 - [189]

Edited by: Artmedis Valben on 14/12/2006 14:35:03
RAMs are used to build tech 2, and on some items the damage done is 95% or more.
RDbs are used to research tech 2, again the higher level of item the more damage they take.
Ship components (9 from each race) are used to build tech 2 ships. All the tech 2 ship BPOs are in the database so its easy to look them up, same goes for many tech 2 item BPOs (although not all). Ideal ME research level is usually lower for tech 2 stuff than on the tech 1 counterpart.

If any of you win tech 2 BPOs and are interested in manufacture/research of said BPO, I have all 56 tools and components researched to perfection both on ME and PE. Can easily make 100run copies of the types you need. Will cut your production cost considerably.

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Posted - 2006.12.14 15:00:00 - [190]

For god's sake, let the dead rest!!

Say NO to zombie-threads!

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