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James 315
Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight Thanks for sharing 
Anyone else from the Coalition got any plans or strategies that you'd like to share with us publically?
If you're referring to the OP's "strategy", it's not really a secret one, though if the north followed through, most of Eve probably would be taken by surprise.
And why not share? The structure of Eve makes it easy to infiltrate nearly all alliances with undetectable spies. These days, that even includes BoB itself. By the time any grand plan or strategy gets filtered down through the grunts who carry it out, both sides already know about it.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Mistress Suffering on 22/05/2007 21:50:10 I think both BoB and MC are headed for a great big pile of boredom soon.
Yeah, they can beat their chest and overwhelm smaller groups for as long as they get off on it, but after RA/GS what's really left?
They already have a what, 3-1? 4-1? Titan advantage plus more capitals than anyone in existance. Its all just *self-gratification* after that.
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James 315
Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering I think both BoB and MC are headed for a great big pile of boredom soon.
Yeah, they can beat their chest and overwhelm smaller groups for as long as they get off on it, but after RA/GS what's really left?
Pirates of the Burning Sea.
Unfortunately, the devs for that game are Goons.
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Darc Kaahar
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:54:00 -
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null Originally by: Karmic
Originally by: Sir Bart A mothership is one of the few things you can bring out without risking anything as there is currently no way to kill them except for a huge army of nos battleships as well as a means to killing it after you have it held in one place. Titans are the other ships you can use without any risk.
-Bart

             
    
 


 
    
            
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.22 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering Edited by: Mistress Suffering on 22/05/2007 21:50:10 I think both BoB and MC are headed for a great big pile of boredom soon.
Yeah, they can beat their chest and overwhelm smaller groups for as long as they get off on it, but after RA/GS what's really left?
They already have a what, 3-1? 4-1? Titan advantage plus more capitals than anyone in existance. Its all just *self-gratification* after that.
Don't forget that our roots are in empire warfare. There will always be mercenary work to do on a smaller scale.
Oh and while entities may rise and fall, players remain and become part of new ones. War in EVE is eternal. The machine will never run out of fuel. ---
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Darc Kaahar
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Darc Kaahar null Originally by: Karmic
Originally by: Sir Bart A mothership is one of the few things you can bring out without risking anything as there is currently no way to kill them except for a huge army of nos battleships as well as a means to killing it after you have it held in one place. Titans are the other ships you can use without any risk.
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What a ******, pffft who posts crap like that.
Darc is a idiot.
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The Beatnuts
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight Thanks for sharing 
Anyone else from the Coalition got any plans or strategies that you'd like to share with us publically?
Ofc.
Listen to this until I die
/omee
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Freya Selene
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:04:00 -
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Reading the moves of D2 and RAZOR i can only assume they're preparing a nice suprice.... 
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The Tumaril
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:10:00 -
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I say the whole thing boils down to southern blokes **** pounding the northreners We boys in the south have been in a constant state of war for...a long time. The North was all happy carebearing it up and singing camp songs. Now you just got served a dish of regular old southren woop @$$ and it's time to learn how to fight again.
I actually feel kind of bad that all these smackers and forum warriors caved in so easy, thought it would be a fight in the North I'd be jealous not to be a part of. Looks like I was wrong. The South isn't that way however as many of the Northern coalition entities found out the hard way.
Down her' people work together and fight hard for their space (even goons ) Makes me remember why I choose to live down here!
Find your ********* and start fighting back northern blokes, no one likes a rout and rapin after so long.
Way to bring the pain MC and CO.!
Sig removed. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] with a link to your signature. - Elmo Pug
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Havras
The Syndicate Inc DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Entres Oh and while entities may rise and fall, players remain and become part of new ones. War in EVE is eternal. The machine will never run out of fuel.
Think about this. Players that will have been beaten in the alliance that fell. How are they likely to make a comeback in any new alliance and have any real impact in the future. Most likely they won't.
What this will say to most new players in eve... don't think about trying to hold space in 0.0 unless you want to pay rent forever.
My opinion only.
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:26:00 -
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I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome the birth of Northern and Southern parts of The Coalition.
I previously thought it was just one Coalition. I guess your numbers grew too large that it warranted organizing things into separate groups for better efficiency.
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Darknesss
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Havras
Originally by: Jin Entres Oh and while entities may rise and fall, players remain and become part of new ones. War in EVE is eternal. The machine will never run out of fuel.
Think about this. Players that will have been beaten in the alliance that fell. How are they likely to make a comeback in any new alliance and have any real impact in the future. Most likely they won't.
What this will say to most new players in eve... don't think about trying to hold space in 0.0 unless you want to pay rent forever.
My opinion only.
Completely disagree ALOT of older well experienced players will either form or join an alliance that has alot of other experienced player in.
The northern coalition is weak, and alot of it is communication, however i guarentee most the hardcore northern pvpers and there are some will stay and will join or become new and probably improved corps/alliances.
There are excellent alliances out there with great pvpers, and organisation, but are just a tad to small to hurt entities like BoB.
I hope one day TRI will be in a position to hurt BoB or atleast be a concern on their mind.
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Havras
Originally by: Jin Entres Oh and while entities may rise and fall, players remain and become part of new ones. War in EVE is eternal. The machine will never run out of fuel.
Think about this. Players that will have been beaten in the alliance that fell. How are they likely to make a comeback in any new alliance and have any real impact in the future. Most likely they won't.
What this will say to most new players in eve... don't think about trying to hold space in 0.0 unless you want to pay rent forever.
My opinion only.
The thing is, people don't change their playstyle that easily. On an individual level, therefore, the same endeavours persist, even though the medium that is the failed alliance has crumbled.
Players who have been beaten must attribute it to something: their own failure, the failure of leadership, the lack of resources, the lack of strategy, lack in numbers, bad luck, inevitable fate etc. Their subsequent actions are then based on that: they can join an entity that in their eyes makes up for the lacking in these departments, they may seek self-improvement or they may re-establish a similar organisation and repeat the mistakes.
Someone whose enjoyment is derived out of battles will not simply turn to missions. They will continue to pursue their individual careers by acquiring new group memberships. Admittedly the divide may be diverse; I can't really tell, but the geopolitical landscape itself encourages coalitions -- be they 3 or 342 corporations -- to unite for common goals. Much like energy, players do not diminish*, they only change form. And as such, they will always provide for conflicts, even though the colours they wear would be radically different.
*some of course quit over time, don't be a nitpick ---
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rebellion I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome the birth of Northern and Southern parts of The Coalition.
I previously thought it was just one Coalition. I guess your numbers grew too large that it warranted organizing things into separate groups for better efficiency.
There have been two very distinct groups from day 1.
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ALPHA12125
Gallente 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering Edited by: Mistress Suffering on 22/05/2007 21:50:10 I think both BoB and MC are headed for a great big pile of boredom soon.
Yeah, they can beat their chest and overwhelm smaller groups for as long as they get off on it, but after RA/GS what's really left?
They already have a what, 3-1? 4-1? Titan advantage plus more capitals than anyone in existance. Its all just *self-gratification* after that.
tbh if all this territorial war is over bob will have such a huge land to cover that they have constant pvp everywhere, cause they cant secure all.
splitting up the corps in different regions and having fun doesnt sound that bad. the days of huge fleet battles and capital warfare will be over but tbh that isnt that bad now is it ? :D
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Paula Roscarai
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Paula Roscarai on 22/05/2007 22:49:40
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Faust on 22/05/2007 22:55:11
Originally by: ALPHA12125 splitting up the corps in different regions and having fun doesnt sound that bad. the days of huge fleet battles and capital warfare will be over but tbh that isnt that bad now is it ? :D
No, it won't be over. In fact it will be in it's worst state. If no one can touch the alliances cap fleet, the only thing it can do is expand in time. It certainly won't shrink or get smaller if no one rivals them. It will get to the point where if someone does try anything and BoB/friends get's bored/angry, they'll press the "I win" button and Cyno in 500 cap ships. The capacity of Eve's never-ending storage space in stations will bring about a very terrible niche. One where if someone does get in to absolute power with the majority of the map under it's rule, it can sit on all the resources and stockpile ships until the cows come home. If you couldn't beat them when they owned half the maps 0.0 resources, how could you possibly hope to if they owned it all?
Of course, assuming BoB does take over all of 0.0 . __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
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Rebellion
Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Rebellion I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome the birth of Northern and Southern parts of The Coalition.
I previously thought it was just one Coalition. I guess your numbers grew too large that it warranted organizing things into separate groups for better efficiency.
There have been two very distinct groups from day 1.
Does that mean that if either of them gets in a bind, the other side won't care? I mean, of course they'll care, but not enough to do anything?
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.05.22 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 22/05/2007 23:02:56
Originally by: Rebellion Does that mean that if either of them gets in a bind, the other side won't care? I mean, of course they'll care, but not enough to do anything?
That's not far from the truth. But not so much because they don't care, as because they are just so far away from each other. But staying far away from each other isn't really a bad thing. If both forces combine to fight bob the server will crash, or get capped or some other undetermined outcome that will undoubtedly favor bob.
In the same way that bob and MC are working several regions apart, so is north and south coalition. There really is no way to help the other side other than putting more pressure on your own side...
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Francis Reighn
Seraphin Technologies Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.05.22 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: fightnkill Edited by: fightnkill on 22/05/2007 19:51:01 As well, keep in mind that if you strongly believe your losing the war, YOU WILL LOSE, but if you go the opposite and believe that you are winning the war, You will WIN the war.
And If u say "There is no War in the North", there will be no War ^^
Finally you gave us some nice Fights. I had a lot of Fun and that's it was count. I hope i can say that for booth Side's.
cya in Space
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 23:17:00 -
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Translation :
Dear Northen alliances
Plz stop with your incompetence and empty arrogance and start banding up so you can coem save our butts that are getting kicked sky high by 1 pvp corp and we are supposed to be a strong 0.0 alliance .
PS: GS and RA have abandonded us as well coz the crylation has a policy of leaving the wounded behind.
@ the OP i suggest you listen to your own alliance leader and stop posting pathetic stuff like that which makes you look like begging for help.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.22 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 22/05/2007 23:32:23 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 22/05/2007 23:24:41
Originally by: Mistress Suffering Edited by: Mistress Suffering on 22/05/2007 21:50:10 I think both BoB and MC are headed for a great big pile of boredom soon.
Yeah, they can beat their chest and overwhelm smaller groups for as long as they get off on it, but after RA/GS what's really left?
They already have a what, 3-1? 4-1? Titan advantage plus more capitals than anyone in existance. Its all just *self-gratification* after that.
It was a different story when you guys were ganging up to beat down a noob corp, when Einherjar first came to eve.
But that is the way of progress. The Spider has become the fly.....
Oh and tell Deebo I said hello  --
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.05.22 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr It's looking like D2 were just another ASCN style carebear shell after all.
Tbh D2 and friends we're/are much more then that, the only problem they had/have is the fact that they're all running in different directions, the majority of alliances there worried about their health right here and now and failed to see the big picture. If they had communicated better and united into one big warmachine they would have had an excellent chance at repelling the invaders.
Is it too late now? I really would'nt know, Razor seems to have a lot of fighting spirit but with FLA and Sparta backing down, Iron pulling out without a fight and D2 motherships running around moving assets out of stations i cant say the future looks all that bright for them.
Will the universe through the complete and total domination by bob? Haha no.  -----
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Tobruk
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Translation :
Dear Northern alliances
Plz stop with your incompetence and empty arrogance and start banding up so you can coem save our butts that are getting kicked sky high by 1 pvp corp and we are supposed to be a strong 0.0 alliance .
PS: GS and RA have abandonded us as well coz the crylation has a policy of leaving the wounded behind.
@ the OP i suggest you listen to your own alliance leader and stop posting pathetic stuff like that which makes you look like begging for help.
i can't even believe you fly in the same alliance as Tholarim, Dreez, Just Mack, and other dice crew. Every time i read a post like this it makes me long for the days before this game filled up with 12yo WOW players. anyone else remember those days? ----------------------------------------------
Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Wylker Edited by: Wylker on 22/05/2007 19:57:39
Originally by: Vasili Z DAMNIT, THEY KNOW.
Heh. b d
@OP: Nice cheerleading tho, I hope it makes all the northern alliances put aside every single issue that has plagued the north since Eve began and join eachother in peaceful harmony forever.
hey how u can do that oposite b ?????????????????????????????     
lol /b/ 4 life :)
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron It was a different story when you guys were ganging up to beat down a noob corp, when Einherjar first came to eve.
I'm sure you have a wonderfully imaginative fantasy life somewhere, but you're going to have to share more of it for anyone to even vaguely know what you're talking about.
Considering I've been in ENH since we all flew frigates into battle and have fought larger and/or more experienced organziations since day one, your accusation sounds like a turd. I suppose you might have fought us before I joined, but that would have been the land of pure T1 frigates, so whatever horrific beatdown you may have suffered would have been similarly scaled.
In any case, nothing you have done personally involves any glorious "I made such cool decisions" that led to BoB and MC having years of farming ISK and SP to build their massive capital & super-capital fleet before we even touched down on EVE.
That battle was between BoB/MC and the people who played EVE years ago, and has been working to its conclusion ever since. You and I are basically irrelevent within it.
It also has nothing to do with the fact that EVE utterly fails to have a good self-balancing mechanism to provide ongoing challenge and interest when one group gains advantage. EVE, on the other hand, is very much tailored towards cumulative advantage, where a current advantage leverages into greater advantage over the long term. Titans are a great example of this, and are (as most of the sharper BoB fellows also notice) pretty broken.
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Grim Faust
Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Faust on 23/05/2007 00:10:20
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Is it too late now? I really would'nt know, Razor seems to have a lot of fighting spirit but with FLA and Sparta backing down, Iron pulling out without a fight and D2 motherships running around moving assets out of stations i cant say the future looks all that bright for them.
FLA didn't back down. We fought to the last ship and last inch of our space. We lost a lot in the assault on our space. The reason why we 'left' Deklein was because our last system/station was about to lose sovereignty. All the towers were reinforced and that was that. MC offered us a cease fire because they knew it was over as well. If we still had a station, we'd still be up there. But with all our space taken over, what else are we supposed to do?
We're not out of this war either. The ceasefire is long over and standings to the alliance forces are back to red. If you think we've given our all, you're wrong. We'll be back. This was only a chapter in our history books, with plenty more to come. __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message...
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: WraithFire
Originally by: dastommy79 Totaly agree with ya. We all need to work together as 1 military force. I hope members of the southern coalition are learning from the Norths mistakes. To say the north is lost is not an accurate statement.
I have to agree with dastommy79 in this one. If we are going to be honest about this, most of the northern coalition are nothing more but a name. The lack of cohesion with regards to mutual defense is almost non-existent.
One example is that most of the larger alliances such as D2 and IRON watched as FLA fought MC, YW and SA. Some brave alliances such as ours, 3asy Company, Sparta and Eve Animal Control stayed with FLA because we saw the larger picture at play ;however, it was too much for most of us. It was no doubt that D2 and IRON would have made a difference in the earlier engagements, but they just watched as FLA and friends got slaughtered. If IRON and D2 realized that without FLA acting as a buffer against the BoB offensive, IRON and D2 would be the next targets to be levelled. Now it seemed evident that things played like a Domino Theory, with one territory falling one after another.
In fairness to IRON, they helped, but it was too late. The tides already turned, and it was unfortunate, but if IRON realized that earlier, things would have been different.
Now with D2 acting like the war is not happening at all. It is time to wake up because it is happening. Janus' statement does not really help at all coz he needs to see that the winds of war are already here.
As for the south, let the north be a lesson. If you guys want to fight against BoB, then work together. On the other hand, if you want to fight for BoB then carry on.
Quoted For Complete Excelent Truth.
I was surprised that after the fall of o-2 (FLA's last outpost system) that Iron or D2 were not allready in communication with them about liveing and fighting from there space as both residents and allies, its the best possable option, the only one that makes sence, or.... you could go to lowsec with its useless ores and rubbish rats... *rolls eyes*
There actuley were a few examples of Coalition forces wothing together in the north, but mostley in Fade for POS takedowns, allthough i beleave there was one large show of force to assist FLA that may have had some D2 and/or Iron forces but i slept through that one.  -
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Spawck
Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr It's looking like D2 were just another ASCN style carebear shell after all.
Tbh D2 and friends we're/are much more then that, the only problem they had/have is the fact that they're all running in different directions, the majority of alliances there worried about their health right here and now and failed to see the big picture. If they had communicated better and united into one big warmachine they would have had an excellent chance at repelling the invaders.
Is it too late now? I really would'nt know, Razor seems to have a lot of fighting spirit but with FLA and Sparta backing down, Iron pulling out without a fight and D2 motherships running around moving assets out of stations i cant say the future looks all that bright for them.
Will the universe through the complete and total domination by bob? Haha no. 
You people who have opinion's about the health of D2 in this thread have no idea what you are talking about. It is ALL BS!!!
If you want to know why D2 is having trouble, read the post that have been made about the several Corps. that have left D2 in the last few weeks. There are at least 4 or 5 Corps. that have left recently, and there are more to leave soon I am told.
Problems started while we were still in Fountain. The MC attack on the North really has little to do with this. D2 would have problems even if MC never showed up at our door in Branch. MC's timing was fortunate for them.
Enough said or I am going to get in trouble :)
But for the RECORD, all of this speculation about why D2 is having problems are 100% wrong. You guys just don't get it, but I guess that is okay if you want to go on believing what you want to believe.
If you really want to know what is going on, read the posts on this forum from the Corp's that have left D2. That stuff is pretty much right on.
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Orange Species
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.23 00:45:00 -
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The Alliance perfectly strikes northern farce wrecking for internal problems!
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