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ishkabibble Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:36:00 - [31] Originally by: Aeleva Originally by: Lsf XXi Its cool because Omist is obviously the only region ftz has access too. Nice troll OP. ....just interested in discussion relating to this and how people perceive it. Great vision in theory, unachievable in reality. As long as 0.0 is conquerable space, there will ALWAYS be someone after it. Remember its real estate with tons of resources on it, the EvE gods arent making any more of it. 0.0 is a limited resource, and EvE pilots have an unlimited need for it. You can't fix "Stupid" - Comedian Ron White
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:38:00 - [32] Originally by: Astro Fizzicks Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Kryztal Simple answer, FTZ relocates to empire while we secure rest of Omist. Once thats done we can negotiate. But keep in mind, nothing is free in EvE. And if you DO find stuff that is free, please let me know, I'll find a way to charge for it one day :) On a slightly different note: If anyone else is fed up of having paid for a game that has been fraudulently handled by it's makers, where one of their employees basically ran BOB's cap fleet (which has more supercaps in than everyone elses put together, coincidentally) Don't bother complaining to BOB err CCP, whatever. Mail their new partners 'white wolf', perhaps they can put pressure on BOB/CCP to clean the game up: [email protected] You know that CCP employees are also members of other alliances other than BOB don't you, maybe even the same alliance that your main is in.
FGxHalsey Freedom Guard	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:43:00 - [33] FTZ is a good idea and good in implementation. Corporations get access to 0.0 space with no defense requirements put on them and access costs a fraction of what it does in other "rent" schemes. Other advantages include being are free to create markets, mine, rat, etc with very few restrictions compared to offers other alliances give you and you can travel to any region within allied space. Lets remember some of the disadvantages of siding with a tennant scheme like BoB's. - BoB will shoot you on sight if you wander too far from your assigned systems and assigned path to empire. - WAY more expensive to the tune of billions per month for only a handful of systems. - BoB dictates that you defend the system yourselves or defend other systems should they need your assistance. So not only do you spend alot of money, but essentially you are paying for the privelege of defending someone else's space. - BoB may be able to garuantee sov in certain regions, but they can't garuantee security. They promise security but for the mostpart you are left to fend for yourself. - Remember BoB is the one who came up with the term 'pet' to describe their tennants. I don't know about you, but there are alot of intelligent and cool people in every alliance and for one group to call their own allies, "pets" just sits wrong. People like RISE and specifically sturmgrenadier, whom I've known since planetside days... and FIX, a very respectable alliance who fought BoB and 5 other alliances at the same time, and many other smaller groups who are great players Why in the world would such good groups put up with their own ally calling them a pet? Why would they, good pvp players, pay money to play a game that involves them grinding to pay someone else in the game for the privilege of being dealt with from a standpoint of arrogance? So to answer your question, in 0.0 there are no garuantees of security wherever you go. Goonswarm didn't promise complete safety to the FTZ guys, just relative safety and a strong effort to fight off attackers. These promises are being fulfilled.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:44:00 - [34] Originally by: KSUDruid BoB: The only name to know in Space RentalsÖ :) Why would anyone rent space from anyone other then BoB? ItÆs not the stations and refining fees that people are paying for. ItÆs for the protection that BoB wonÆt kill them and that they can actually learn something about how to really exists in 0.0. ItÆs really a very small price to pay imo. BoB should charge more. The truth will set you free
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:47:00 - [35] Originally by: NATMav Welcome to BoB OnlineÖ ¬2007 CCP Games If you don't like it there are plenty of other games out there.
Velsharoon Gallente Endgame.	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:49:00 - [36] Originally by: FGxHalsey Edited by: FGxHalsey on 24/05/2007 23:43:54 a pile of **** How about you let the bob renters ask what they get out of it. People vote with their feet. Who is running now?
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:49:00 - [37] Originally by: Astro Fizzicks Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Kryztal Simple answer, FTZ relocates to empire while we secure rest of Omist. Once thats done we can negotiate. But keep in mind, nothing is free in EvE. And if you DO find stuff that is free, please let me know, I'll find a way to charge for it one day :) On a slightly different note: If anyone else is fed up of having paid for a game that has been fraudulently handled by it's makers, where one of their employees basically ran BOB's cap fleet (which has more supercaps in than everyone elses put together, coincidentally) Don't bother complaining to BOB err CCP, whatever. Mail their new partners 'white wolf', perhaps they can put pressure on BOB/CCP to clean the game up: [email protected] That poor, poor horse. He was dead and buried, but you dug him up, defiled him, did nasty things to it, resurrected it, and beat it to death again. My official reply can be found in my last post.
FGxHalsey Freedom Guard	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:50:00 - [38] Edited by: FGxHalsey on 24/05/2007 23:50:32 Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: KSUDruid BoB: The only name to know in Space RentalsÖ :) Why would anyone rent space from anyone other then BoB? ItÆs not the stations and refining fees that people are paying for. ItÆs for the protection that BoB wonÆt kill them and that they can actually learn something about how to really exists in 0.0. ItÆs really a very small price to pay imo. BoB should charge more. Perhaps they don't want to be treated like lesser human beings? Listen to your own words, "ItÆs for the protection that BoB wonÆt kill them." You know there are people in this game who do not fear BoB and infact, get along just fine in supposed "BoB" space even though they are enemies of them.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:55:00 - [39] Originally by: FGxHalsey Perhaps they don't want to be treated like lesser human beings? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]

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Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:04:00 - [41] Originally by: FGxHalsey Perhaps they don't want to be treated like lesser human beings? Oh, those people? That's okay, we don't want the delusional ones. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
FGxHalsey Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:06:00 - [42] Originally by: Avon Originally by: FGxHalsey Perhaps they don't want to be treated like lesser human beings? Oh, those people? That's okay, we don't want the delusional ones. When it comes to enemies, anything goes.
Enthes goldhart Gallente Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:13:00 - [43] Originally by: FGxHalsey [ Lets remember some of the disadvantages of siding with a tennant scheme like BoB's. - BoB will shoot you on sight if you wander too far from your assigned systems and assigned path to empire. - WAY more expensive to the tune of billions per month for only a handful of systems. - BoB dictates that you defend the system yourselves or defend other systems should they need your assistance. So not only do you spend alot of money, but essentially you are paying for the privelege of defending someone else's space. - BoB may be able to garuantee sov in certain regions, but they can't garuantee security. They promise security but for the mostpart you are left to fend for yourself. - Remember BoB is the one who came up with the term 'pet' to describe their tennants. I don't know about you, but there are alot of intelligent and cool people in every alliance and for one group to call their own allies, "pets" just sits wrong. as far as i know bob dont shoot blues. as for the rest defending your own space is the whole point of 0.0 if u cant do that yourself then dont deserve that bit of space anyway. what bob does is provide pos war security so that RA wont decide that they want that solar system and kill the pos's that a small alliance has worked so hard for. as for the word pet i dont care as its just a word. tbh i think anyone would rather be with bob then goon just because of the way they act.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:58:00 - [44] Originally by: FGxHalsey Edited by: FGxHalsey on 24/05/2007 23:50:32 Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: KSUDruid BoB: The only name to know in Space RentalsÖ :) Why would anyone rent space from anyone other then BoB? ItÆs not the stations and refining fees that people are paying for. ItÆs for the protection that BoB wonÆt kill them and that they can actually learn something about how to really exists in 0.0. ItÆs really a very small price to pay imo. BoB should charge more. Perhaps they don't want to be treated like lesser human beings? Listen to your own words, "ItÆs for the protection that BoB wonÆt kill them." You know there are people in this game who do not fear BoB and infact, get along just fine in supposed "BoB" space even though they are enemies of them. BoB lives in your goonies little free trade zone. WhatÆs your point? You donÆt have to rent from BoB. You donÆt have to fear BoB either. But if youÆre not blue, then youÆll get shot at. You have a problem with that? Too bad. As for your description of renting space from BoB, I donÆt see any of BoB tenets complaining about BoB not honoring any agreements, providing protection or being treated like a lesser human beings. You canÆt say the same, now can you? You have no idea what benefits BoB renters get beyond any isk or space security, but just look up north at the job BoB allies and renters are doing. Get the idea? No? Again. Too bad. Tic-Toc RIP The truth will set you free
KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:15:00 - [45] Good Afternoon to you FGxHalsey! I'm so glad you decided to inquire about BoB's Space Leasing ProgramÖ. I'll be happy to answer your question and dispell a few myths about the fantastic leasing options we have available. 1. BoB Maintence Agents and Land Patroll Officers will NEVER fire upon a BoB space LeasingÖ Tenant. Since 1871 BoB Space Rentals have been FFFÖ (friendly fire free) and we pride ourselves on having some of the best pilots in the industry (We don't shoot blues... ever.. one of our biggest rules) 2. Our prices are by far some of the most competitive in the space rental industry. One of our newest tenants reported they were paying in excess of 10m/isk per member, per month to GoonSwarm IncÖ and they never so much as gave them a dedicated piece of space, tower rights, corporate or alliance discounts, or the ability to use the patented BoB "Loan a constellation" program, which has shown to be the most effective alliance development program, in the 4 year history of New Eden. Get a quote today by speaking to a BoB representitive. 3. We offer all our tenants the ability to tune their own PVP skills against small raiding parties without interference from BoB Regulatory Agents. If you get a nasty bee infestation in your station, and the structural integrity of your home is in question? BoB Exterminators will make arrangements with you to work your specialized BoB Bee Eradacation AgentsÖ who specialize in removing that pesky tower spam from your backyard. 4. The term 'pet' is for your Dogs, Cats, and Slaver Hounds (which are of course welcome in all BoB leased stations). 5. Our Clientelle list includes the Real-Deal names in the PVP and Zero-Zero business today. People like RISE, Sturmgrenadier, FIX, Axiom, Exuro-Mortis (the burning orphans till ***s me up, those silly guys) and of course, the superstars of the south, everyone's favorite, The Mercenary Coalition. All these outstanding names in the business have seen the promised land, and made a leasing arrangment with BoB Space RentalsÖ Don't take my word for it, here's what our great tenants have said: Originally by:** Warsyn "A year ago I was a spineless carebear. Then I took a lease from BoB. Now I find my erectile dysfuntion has completely disappeared and i've even had my balls regrow." Originally by: ViRiii "Since we joined BoB, i've been able to walk again!" Originally by: Akyan "A survey of BoB renters has found that 95% have had more sex since the start of their lease" I mean, there you have it.. How can one company have so many satisfied clients? One Word: Quality The Quality you'll get as a member of the BoB Space Leasing ProgramÖ will change your life. Make sure to see your nearest BoB Leasing Agent Today and Sign Up! BoB: The only Name in Space RentalsÖ -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
DeltaH NOBODY Inc.	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:17:00 - [46] Originally by: FGxHalsey Lets remember some of the disadvantages of siding with a tennant scheme like BoB's. - BoB will shoot you on sight if you wander too far from your assigned systems and assigned path to empire. - WAY more expensive to the tune of billions per month for only a handful of systems. - BoB dictates that you defend the system yourselves or defend other systems should they need your assistance. So not only do you spend alot of money, but essentially you are paying for the privelege of defending someone else's space. - BoB may be able to garuantee sov in certain regions, but they can't garuantee security. They promise security but for the mostpart you are left to fend for yourself. - Remember BoB is the one who came up with the term 'pet' to describe their tennants. I don't know about you, but there are alot of intelligent and cool people in every alliance and for one group to call their own allies, "pets" just sits wrong. Very well informed post.
ishkabibble Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:27:00 - [47] Originally by: KSUDruid Good Afternoon to you FGxHalsey! I'm so glad you decided to inquire about BoB's Space Leasing ProgramÖ. I'll be happy to answer your question and dispell a few myths about the fantastic leasing options we have available. 1. BoB Maintence Agents and Land Patroll Officers will NEVER fire upon a BoB space LeasingÖ Tenant. Since 1871 BoB Space Rentals have been FFFÖ (friendly fire free) and we pride ourselves on having some of the best pilots in the industry (We don't shoot blues... ever.. one of our biggest rules) 2. Our prices are by far some of the most competitive in the space rental industry. One of our newest tenants reported they were paying in excess of 10m/isk per member, per month to GoonSwarm IncÖ and they never so much as gave them a dedicated piece of space, tower rights, corporate or alliance discounts, or the ability to use the patented BoB "Loan a constellation" program, which has shown to be the most effective alliance development program, in the 4 year history of New Eden. Get a quote today by speaking to a BoB representitive. 3. We offer all our tenants the ability to tune their own PVP skills against small raiding parties without interference from BoB Regulatory Agents. If you get a nasty bee infestation in your station, and the structural integrity of your home is in question? BoB Exterminators will make arrangements with you to work your specialized BoB Bee Eradacation AgentsÖ who specialize in removing that pesky tower spam from your backyard. 4. The term 'pet' is for your Dogs, Cats, and Slaver Hounds (which are of course welcome in all BoB leased stations). 5. Our Clientelle list includes the Real-Deal names in the PVP and Zero-Zero business today. People like RISE, Sturmgrenadier, FIX, Axiom, Exuro-Mortis (the burning orphans till ***s me up, those silly guys) and of course, the superstars of the south, everyone's favorite, The Mercenary Coalition. All these outstanding names in the business have seen the promised land, and made a leasing arrangment with BoB Space RentalsÖ Don't take my word for it, here's what our great tenants have said: Originally by:** Warsyn "A year ago I was a spineless carebear. Then I took a lease from BoB. Now I find my erectile dysfuntion has completely disappeared and i've even had my balls regrow." Originally by: ViRiii "Since we joined BoB, i've been able to walk again!" Originally by: Akyan "A survey of BoB renters has found that 95% have had more sex since the start of their lease" I mean, there you have it.. How can one company have so many satisfied clients? One Word: Quality The Quality you'll get as a member of the BoB Space Leasing ProgramÖ will change your life. Make sure to see your nearest BoB Leasing Agent Today and Sign Up! BoB: The only Name in Space RentalsÖ Genius You can't fix "Stupid" - Comedian Ron White
Invidious Malinigvious Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:37:00 - [48] Originally by: DeltaH Originally by: FGxHalsey Lets remember some of the disadvantages of siding with a tennant scheme like BoB's. - BoB will shoot you on sight if you wander too far from your assigned systems and assigned path to empire. - WAY more expensive to the tune of billions per month for only a handful of systems. - BoB dictates that you defend the system yourselves or defend other systems should they need your assistance. So not only do you spend alot of money, but essentially you are paying for the privelege of defending someone else's space. - BoB may be able to garuantee sov in certain regions, but they can't garuantee security. They promise security but for the mostpart you are left to fend for yourself. - Remember BoB is the one who came up with the term 'pet' to describe their tennants. I don't know about you, but there are alot of intelligent and cool people in every alliance and for one group to call their own allies, "pets" just sits wrong. Very well informed post. I laughed
paracidic Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:38:00 - [49] Edited by: paracidic on 25/05/2007 01:41:20 I am the Senior Diplomate for RMF. We try very hard to stay out of the forum wars and try not to get involved in the flamthrower attitudes of them that do not know what they are yapping about. When the war started I answered dozens of convo asking for our support, demanding our surrender and other absurdities. I am not getting into by whom etc they know who they are and now they also know where they are. But to be blunt the are not in Feyth or anywhere near it. Some were great friends in the past and some may be great friends again in the future. I digress, many of the convo's wanted to know wtf we would choose to remain with BoB as pets or renters or any other unfreindly slang term that they dredged up. We have never really answered that. I will now answer why we choose not to walk away from our agreement and honour. What many of you believe about BoB is wrong, they are not oppressors they are not cheaters nor are they evil baby eaters. :) They are solid business people with a strong business plan. They have honour and they value the people they do business with. For every one corp or alliance that is accepted into the Greater BoB Community (I just now TM'd that phrase) Many many more are told to shove off. BoB is a worthwhile business partner because they are visionary enough to surround themselves with people that are worthwhile being around. The GBC has demonstrated over and over during this conflict that we can depend on each other and we can work with each other in a way that other communities are or should be jeaolous of. Does BoB make demands on it's business partners. NO, They may ask, but they don't demand. But as a friend we the members of the GBC are usually happy to help out in anyway that BoB asks. We don't do it gain BoB's favor, we do it because we have fostered a friendship with BoB and want to do it. BoB doesn't shoot people outside where they live. However as in any business relationship there is mutual understandings and agreements. IE I will not allow any RMF pilot to rat or mine in another GBC members space, This is not friendly nor does it foster strong kinships. Just as fences make good neighbours so do boundries. Even if BoB was losing this war and RMF was driven out of our 2 year home we would be falling back deeper into BoB space and consolidating and fortifiying with them. As enemies they earned our respect and as allies they have cemented it. Speaking for RMF we are proud to be members of the GBC. The absence of these very reasons we choose to stay with BoB is the base reason for the need of an FTZ the way it was concieved and set up. Now back to the work in hand /emote waves hand like jedi There is no South Feyth, go about your business. *********************************************** How could they know what we are going to do? We have no idea what we are going to do.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:46:00 - [50] Originally by: Invidious Malinigvious Originally by: DeltaH Originally by: FGxHalsey Lets remember some of the disadvantages of siding with a tennant scheme like BoB's. - BoB will shoot you on sight if you wander too far from your assigned systems and assigned path to empire. - WAY more expensive to the tune of billions per month for only a handful of systems. - BoB dictates that you defend the system yourselves or defend other systems should they need your assistance. So not only do you spend alot of money, but essentially you are paying for the privelege of defending someone else's space. - BoB may be able to garuantee sov in certain regions, but they can't garuantee security. They promise security but for the mostpart you are left to fend for yourself. - Remember BoB is the one who came up with the term 'pet' to describe their tennants. I don't know about you, but there are alot of intelligent and cool people in every alliance and for one group to call their own allies, "pets" just sits wrong. Very well informed post. I laughed Hehe thats quality. I think someones been nibbling the Goonswarm propaganda cookies a bit too much lately ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]

KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:49:00 - [51] GBC... Greater BoB Community... I like that... I'll speak to our attorney's and make sure you get some royalties everytime that's used... -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
paracidic Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:50:00 - [52] I am at work now, but i will check wallet when I get home. :) Para *********************************************** How could they know what we are going to do? We have no idea what we are going to do.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:51:00 - [53] Edited by: DubanFP on 25/05/2007 01:55:54 Originally by: paracidic lots of stuff Very well said, and personally i prefer to think of the smaller alliances "D-L included" as satellites if they have to be called something since it's discriptive yet politically correct. I can't officially speak for the now dead Myriad alliance, but after the battle for I-N the coalition pretty much gave us the choice of A. Join them and fight against LV, or B. "Leave immensea/die". Myriad chose to leave "and eventually faced a slow death" rather then be at the coalition's heel "no pet pun intended". Now i don't know what the coalition's definition of a slave is, but in my opinion "Join us or die" sounds much more slavelike then any of the mutally agreed conditions BoB and it's tenants have... edit: Oh and LV were a great bunch of friends/allies in Omist and then Immeansea. They saved us at least once during IAC's invasion. Just sad that it had to end the way it did :-/. ____________ DubanFP > where ever there is a player that's getting too rich, wherever there's an industrial with too much loot, wherever there is a noob with too much smack we'll be there...
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:51:00 - [54] Edited by: Rhaegor Stormborn on 25/05/2007 01:52:13 Originally by: Velsharoon Originally by: FGxHalsey Edited by: FGxHalsey on 24/05/2007 23:43:54 a pile of **** How about you let the bob renters ask what they get out of it. People vote with their feet. Who is running now? We are treated with respect and appreciation from the most powerful alliance in the game. They support us when in dire need, which hasn't been that often as RISE can and wants to fight for itself. We are blue to BoB everywhere, and can go anywhere we want without worry of being shot on sight. The rent is nothing, absolutely nothing. As a member of the largest corporation in RISE, we carry the largest portion of the rent. I have never paid a dime out of pocket besides my standard corp tax which would be there rent or not. The amount of ISK required for rent is a drop in the bucket compared to the riches we have access to and reap each week, maybe even each day. We have been allowed to rent one of the richest areas in Eve which has allowed us to grow in ways the Outer Ring never would have, and I wouldn't go back on our initial decision for the world. I could go on and on, but there has been nothing, and I do mean nothing, negative about our experience with renting from BoB. I enjoy flying with them and completely and utterly destroying our enemies. One night we killed 150 goons in all sorts of ships, including many battleships, and lost 2 cruisers and a frigate with our gang of 90 people, 50 RISE and 40 BoB. I have learned from them, and I respect their abilities. We are their allies, and they are ours. D2 was a poor ally at best, and down-right treacherous at worst. We were given an opportunity and we jumped at it. It was the best thing RISE could of done, and hindsight has not changed that one bit. So please, keep on calling us pets and deluding yourselves about how weak we are, and how bad it is to be allied with BoB, cause honestly it doesn't mean jack squat to us and doesn't change the outcome of the battles we fight against you.
John Cerberux Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:05:00 - [55] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn We serve BoB and its all roses and butterflies. I also played planetside and fought alongside sturmgrenadier as an ally. Apparently Sturmgrenadier is no longer the strong entity it was in its planetside days. They were strong, independant, and full of pride. I will mourn the loss of that once great organization.
James 315 Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:13:00 - [56] Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn We are treated with respect and appreciation from the most powerful alliance in the game. Threw up a little.
KSUDruid Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:14:00 - [57] Originally by: John Cerberux I also played planetside and fought alongside sturmgrenadier as an ally. Apparently Sturmgrenadier is no longer the strong entity it was in its planetside days. They were strong, independant, and full of pride. I will mourn the loss of that once great organization. Awww, turn that frown upside down friend! You sound like you need to get out of that stinky old station you're in now, and try out some of the BoB Leasing ProgramsÖ great deals! This month we are offering a special to former pilot of other New Eden rentals. Just provide proof of previous residency, and your application is approved, automatically! You can't be turned Down! Apply Today! -Druid Current RKK Ranking: (CAL11) Sabre
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:30:00 - [58] Originally by: FGxHalsey Perhaps they don't want to be treated like lesser human beings? Listen to your own words, "ItÆs for the protection that BoB wonÆt kill them." You know there are people in this game who do not fear BoB and infact, get along just fine in supposed "BoB" space even though they are enemies of them. Although we are not proper tenants in terms of leasing space, we've been on partnership terms with BoB for almost two years now. For a time, we lived in Delve almost exclusively. We defended it as a home, but we did not pay a dime for the privilege of using it's belts, stations, and complexes. That relationship has been the basis of all future interactions between us and BoB, where we exchange our occasional need for carebearing with at minimum, an equal time pvping. In the entire time we have been on friendly terms, there has not been a single time where I've had to think twice about the dynamics of the relationship or question whether or not we were getting shafted (although Dian's "deals" are a bit of a ripoff tbh). There is not a single entity in Eve that has ever show itself to be as respectable when it comes to business deals and a mutually beneficial partnership. Call it rabid fanboism or the pet brainwashing if you want, but the truth of the matter is that BoB has cultivated relationships with their friends and tenants that we will collectively fight for, until our very last ship, because nobody else ever has a hope of matching it. The alliance wonders why we all fight so tenaciously together, as a handful of smaller entities in support of a larger cause, and why we accomplish so much even in our divisions. The reason is that there is really no master-pet relationship here, regardless of your corp tag or alliance ticker, we're all brothers in arms. And that is why we are better than you.
Adm Tecumseh Caldari The Templars Knights	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:30:00 - [59] Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 25/05/2007 02:29:20 Originally by: James 315 Threw up a little. I know how you feel, Everytime I read one of your posts I throw up a little as well. :)
John Cerberux Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:26:00 - [60] Edited by: John Cerberux on 25/05/2007 04:25:33 Originally by: KSUDruid Awww, turn that frown upside down friend! You sound like you need to get out of that stinky old station you're in now, and try out some of the BoB Leasing ProgramsÖ great deals! This month we are offering a special to former pilot of other New Eden rentals. Just provide proof of previous residency, and your application is approved, automatically! You can't be turned Down! Apply Today! I mine, rat, and kill tech 2 fitted people just fine in BoB space without paying any rent thank you. Also, did you set up the phone alerts that a BoB circle j erk was going to take place? Its pretty funny how you guys make BoB out to be the salvation of mankind here in eve. You need a new propaganda template if you ask me.



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