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Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:45:00 - [1] Well, i've been staying in low sec a lot lately and i've noticed something...differant. Way back when I first started this game pirates would fly into a system, go belt to belt, find you and kill you usually within an hour of you entering the system. however, now I can't even find a pirate when I TRY, and they all seem to balance themselves at 4.5 sec status so they aren't KOS. Where did all the cool pirates go? The -10.00 badasses who would pop a stargate if they had the firepower? Did they all go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to them? I'm not saying they don't exist, but the last week or two they've just been gone. WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME! Come back ;-; i'll be your target if you'll be mine. Or at least, tell me where you all are? :/ Have you all become weekend warriors? Do I need to get on saturdays more? ------------------------------------------------- Attention Devs, for every isk you send me one member of your family will be returned safely.
FT Diomedes Gallente Vereor Is Inceptum	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:51:00 - [2] I see plenty of them in Egghelende and Decon. ------------------------------------------------ FT Diomedes - That ship looks like one of those centipede things from that game, what's it called? FT Cold - Centipede. FT Diomedes - That's it!
Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:52:00 - [3] Originally by: FT Diomedes I see plenty of them in Egghelende and Decon. I've only seen four in Decon in the last week. Maybe I just haven't been on at the right time. ------------------------------------------------- Attention Devs, for every isk you send me one member of your family will be returned safely.
dabster Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:55:00 - [4] I hear The Forge has bad people. ___________________________ Trust In Rust!
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.24 19:59:00 - [5] Many of them went to 0.0, since targets with expensive fits (that are profitable) actually rat in belts there. Other than that, belt-hunting in low-sec isn't really the best option for pirating. People who rat in low-sec in 99 cases out of 100 have ** fittings and fly ** ships. Piracy is about profit, and the potential for it. Going to belts to kill someone is just something most do when they're bored and feel like getting some smack entertainment in local from someone who knows BoB and will kill you with a titan. - Recruitment open again-
Johnny Gurkha Infestation.	Posted - 2007.05.24 20:00:00 - [6] We're in Sujarento /join Nitro Lobby
Kruel Save our Souls	Posted - 2007.05.24 20:52:00 - [7] Belt piracy died when miners stopped doing low-sec ops. Pirates used to enter local and ransom miners before even checking the belts. They often paid too, because they were still making a profit. Ore prices have changed since then. Gate camping died down a lot since the WCS nerf and WTZ. Now there's only a 50% chance to catch that Indy, and 0% chance you'll escape if someone in a covops sneaks up on you as your sniping.
Christopher Dalran Gallente Deadly Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:28:00 - [8] As soon as CCP give people a reason to be in low sec I'm sure the pirate will return shortly after. Right now whatever your doing in low sec can be done better in 0.0 and safer too. ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
SloBones Gallente Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:29:00 - [9] It's true I will only go roam from belt to belt when I'm bored or want to go find a few noobs to pop when they venture out of high sec. But like some of the others have said it's not profitable since mostly ratters in low sec have poor setups that won't net us much cash.
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:30:00 - [10] Long and the short of it was gradual changes to game mechanics killed it off to the point it just wasn't worth the effort of trying to be a belt pirate anymore. I'm sure a few truly dedicated ones still give it a shot but the fact is you get more results just sitting on a gate even if it is a hell of a lot more boring.

Elspeth Vigneron Caldari Phoenix Logistics Industries	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:30:00 - [11] Originally by: Kruel Belt piracy died when miners stopped doing low-sec ops. Pirates used to enter local and ransom miners before even checking the belts. They often paid too, because they were still making a profit. Ore prices have changed since then. Gate camping died down a lot since the WCS nerf and WTZ. Now there's only a 50% chance to catch that Indy, and 0% chance you'll escape if someone in a covops sneaks up on you as your sniping. QFT. No point in going between 0.1 and 0.4. My main, having been one of those that used to mine in .2 space, and got blown up a few times and podded once, just doesn't see the point of mining there anymore. The ore isn't worth the risk, even for the crap-fitted cruisers used for mining. What I think CCP should do is move some of the 0.0 ore up to those areas. Not big spawns with huge roids, but smaller spawns. Not too big to destroy balance, but big enough to attract the people who're willing to let greed over-come caution and make that risk/reward thing click in their head. Phoenix Logistics Industries
Christopher Dalran Gallente Deadly Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:37:00 - [12] Originally by: Elspeth Vigneron Originally by: Kruel Belt piracy died when miners stopped doing low-sec ops. Pirates used to enter local and ransom miners before even checking the belts. They often paid too, because they were still making a profit. Ore prices have changed since then. Gate camping died down a lot since the WCS nerf and WTZ. Now there's only a 50% chance to catch that Indy, and 0% chance you'll escape if someone in a covops sneaks up on you as your sniping. QFT. No point in going between 0.1 and 0.4. My main, having been one of those that used to mine in .2 space, and got blown up a few times and podded once, just doesn't see the point of mining there anymore. The ore isn't worth the risk, even for the crap-fitted cruisers used for mining. What I think CCP should do is move some of the 0.0 ore up to those areas. Not big spawns with huge roids, but smaller spawns. Not too big to destroy balance, but big enough to attract the people who're willing to let greed over-come caution and make that risk/reward thing click in their head. Dont they plan on removing static belts entirely and making them all exploration sites? If they add some decent spawns in low sec from that people might start mining again. Also lvl 5 missions can be put in low sec and kept away from high sec. ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.05.24 21:42:00 - [13] I think CCP should kick pirates out into 0.0 with the alliance wars, let them make their ISK off alliance miners and see how long they live. 0.1 - > 1.0 should be a no pew pew zone.
Valandril Caldari Reiketsu. Hitchhiker's Alliance	Posted - 2007.05.24 22:22:00 - [14] Edited by: Valandril on 24/05/2007 22:21:46 Originally by: Johnny Gurkha We're in Sujarento We know :] --- Cheap paint ftw
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.24 22:36:00 - [15] a lot of them have gone to 0.0 where the most targets are i'm afraid but trust me there are still plenty about low sec if u go to busy systems. trouble is so many blobs about and ppl playing lame ass bait tricks that pirates are a lot more cautious these days. DE
SloBones Gallente Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.05.24 22:44:00 - [16] Originally by: Derovius Vaden I think CCP should kick pirates out into 0.0 with the alliance wars, let them make their ISK off alliance miners and see how long they live. 0.1 - > 1.0 should be a no pew pew zone. I think the game you are needing to play is called WoW. GO check it out. It seems like it would be more of you style of game...
Blind Man Kemono.	Posted - 2007.05.24 22:45:00 - [17] nothing to kill in low-sec so no pirates will go there much
Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.05.24 22:52:00 - [18] I should be careful what I wish for. Theres a 9 pirate -10.00 gang camping the system i'm in, they've been at it for hours. Sheesh. Also, thanks for all the respectable answers, maybe i'll work up the balls to go to 0.0 sometime. ------------------------------------------------- Attention Devs, for every isk you send me one member of your family will be returned safely.
Izo Azlion Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.24 22:57:00 - [19] We're also around, and we're not afraid of being outlaw. However, low sec isnt very profitable, and alot of ISK lies on the gates, or by fighting other Pirates. Low sec needs a serious carebear boost - without nerfing piracy, but by encouraging both. SoonÖ Izo Azlion. --- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Hango ([email protected]) Thanks to Stubnitz for the Sig.
INTACTized Gallente kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Ikasu I should be careful what I wish for. Theres a 9 pirate -10.00 gang camping the system i'm in, they've been at it for hours. Sheesh. Also, thanks for all the respectable answers, maybe i'll work up the balls to go to 0.0 sometime. I bet that was us. ---Sig--- Before I put some crap in here I rather write it above.

valerydarcy Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2007.05.24 23:03:00 - [21] well done for staring another 'check me/my corp' opportunity thread.
MaxSkywalker x13 Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:00:00 - [22] They are in Akora, popping the killboards deployed at the gates :) cough INFOD cough - I live of government cheese!
Jane Vladmir Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.05.25 00:23:00 - [23] WTZ. That's what happent.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Jane Vladmir WTZ. That's what happent. imo that didn't affect very much. it's the amount of targets that are low not the amount of target u can tackle. low sec isn't profitable for carebears. you only get a little more isk from ratting in low sec than a .5 and there is a big increase in 0.0 so if most ppl want to take the risk in npc'ing they may as well go to 0.0. it's a lot safer if ur careful than low sec imo. boost npc bounties in low sec and make some nicer ores for miners and win DE
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:26:00 - [25] Originally by: Ikasu Well, i've been staying in low sec a lot lately and i've noticed something...differant. Way back when I first started this game pirates would fly into a system, go belt to belt, find you and kill you usually within an hour of you entering the system. however, now I can't even find a pirate when I TRY, and they all seem to balance themselves at 4.5 sec status so they aren't KOS. Where did all the cool pirates go? The -10.00 badasses who would pop a stargate if they had the firepower? Did they all go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to them? I'm not saying they don't exist, but the last week or two they've just been gone. WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME! Come back ;-; i'll be your target if you'll be mine. Or at least, tell me where you all are? :/ Have you all become weekend warriors? Do I need to get on saturdays more? Pirates are all around you. You're just too simple to know that they're there. When morons show up with 20+ man gank squads on the other side of the gate, waiting for a pirate to undock and aggro the lone scout you've sent in to bait the solo pirate, the pirates arn't going to come out and play. We simply wait for high value targets to make a mistake, and then we kill them. I've seen two or three Cyrene gank squads in the past few weeks, flying around, hiding on the high sec side of various gates, while their recon/cov ops pilots fly in to scout systems looking for pirates. The pirates are there. It's just that you're not smart enough to get them to fall for your simple tactics. Most of my corp is -10, at least our mains are. But frankly sec status has little to do with who is/isn't a pirate in my book. It's more a state of mind, and proven by the history of your actions, not your sec status. All too often anti-pirates don't fight simply because they're worried about losing some tiny bit of sec status, or more often, are worried about not having the gate guns on their side for protection when they're humping the station or gate for protection. I've yet to meet an antipirate that wasn't a complete ***. Because I said so...**
Jogvan The Rat Pack	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:29:00 - [26] Originally by: Jane Vladmir WTZ. That's what happent. Only thing WTZ did was make people get to dock faster, although nearly everyone had instadock bm's which were very easy to make. Gates are very profitable though
Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:39:00 - [27] Originally by: murder one Originally by: Ikasu Well, i've been staying in low sec a lot lately and i've noticed something...differant. Way back when I first started this game pirates would fly into a system, go belt to belt, find you and kill you usually within an hour of you entering the system. however, now I can't even find a pirate when I TRY, and they all seem to balance themselves at 4.5 sec status so they aren't KOS. Where did all the cool pirates go? The -10.00 badasses who would pop a stargate if they had the firepower? Did they all go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to them? I'm not saying they don't exist, but the last week or two they've just been gone. WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME! Come back ;-; i'll be your target if you'll be mine. Or at least, tell me where you all are? :/ Have you all become weekend warriors? Do I need to get on saturdays more? Pirates are all around you. You're just too simple to know that they're there. When morons show up with 20+ man gank squads on the other side of the gate, waiting for a pirate to undock and aggro the lone scout you've sent in to bait the solo pirate, the pirates arn't going to come out and play. We simply wait for high value targets to make a mistake, and then we kill them. I've seen two or three Cyrene gank squads in the past few weeks, flying around, hiding on the high sec side of various gates, while their recon/cov ops pilots fly in to scout systems looking for pirates. The pirates are there. It's just that you're not smart enough to get them to fall for your simple tactics. Most of my corp is -10, at least our mains are. But frankly sec status has little to do with who is/isn't a pirate in my book. It's more a state of mind, and proven by the history of your actions, not your sec status. All too often anti-pirates don't fight simply because they're worried about losing some tiny bit of sec status, or more often, are worried about not having the gate guns on their side for protection when they're humping the station or gate for protection. I've yet to meet an antipirate that wasn't a complete *****. I rarely join the fleet patrols, I don't really consider 20 vs 20 lag fights fun. I willa dmit, i've held my fire for the sake of sec status before, but i'd rather be able to stay in 1.0 sec when i'm mission running, right now i'm perfecty balanced at 0.0. As for gate strategies, trust me, i've seen pirates use the same strategies Cyrene does. ------------------------------------------------- Attention Devs, for every isk you send me one member of your family will be returned safely.
jimmyjam Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:43:00 - [28] Originally by: Ikasu Well, i've been staying in low sec a lot lately and i've noticed something...differant. Way back when I first started this game pirates would fly into a system, go belt to belt, find you and kill you usually within an hour of you entering the system. however, now I can't even find a pirate when I TRY, and they all seem to balance themselves at 4.5 sec status so they aren't KOS. Where did all the cool pirates go? The -10.00 badasses who would pop a stargate if they had the firepower? Did they all go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to them? I'm not saying they don't exist, but the last week or two they've just been gone. WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME! Come back ;-; i'll be your target if you'll be mine. Or at least, tell me where you all are? :/ Have you all become weekend warriors? Do I need to get on saturdays more? Define real?
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:56:00 - [29] This thread delivers. erm... no, wait, "delivers" wasn't the word I was looking for, what's that other one? ummmm.... oh yeah! Fails. This thread fails. At least it did until murder one posted, he's my hero, you know. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.25 01:56:00 - [30] Originally by: Ikasu Originally by: murder one Originally by: Ikasu Well, i've been staying in low sec a lot lately and i've noticed something...differant. Way back when I first started this game pirates would fly into a system, go belt to belt, find you and kill you usually within an hour of you entering the system. however, now I can't even find a pirate when I TRY, and they all seem to balance themselves at 4.5 sec status so they aren't KOS. Where did all the cool pirates go? The -10.00 badasses who would pop a stargate if they had the firepower? Did they all go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to them? I'm not saying they don't exist, but the last week or two they've just been gone. WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME! Come back ;-; i'll be your target if you'll be mine. Or at least, tell me where you all are? :/ Have you all become weekend warriors? Do I need to get on saturdays more? Pirates are all around you. You're just too simple to know that they're there. When morons show up with 20+ man gank squads on the other side of the gate, waiting for a pirate to undock and aggro the lone scout you've sent in to bait the solo pirate, the pirates arn't going to come out and play. We simply wait for high value targets to make a mistake, and then we kill them. I've seen two or three Cyrene gank squads in the past few weeks, flying around, hiding on the high sec side of various gates, while their recon/cov ops pilots fly in to scout systems looking for pirates. The pirates are there. It's just that you're not smart enough to get them to fall for your simple tactics. Most of my corp is -10, at least our mains are. But frankly sec status has little to do with who is/isn't a pirate in my book. It's more a state of mind, and proven by the history of your actions, not your sec status. All too often anti-pirates don't fight simply because they're worried about losing some tiny bit of sec status, or more often, are worried about not having the gate guns on their side for protection when they're humping the station or gate for protection. I've yet to meet an antipirate that wasn't a complete ***. I rarely join the fleet patrols, I don't really consider 20 vs 20 lag fights fun. I willa dmit, i've held my fire for the sake of sec status before, but i'd rather be able to stay in 1.0 sec when i'm mission running, right now i'm perfecty balanced at 0.0. As for gate strategies, trust me, i've seen pirates use the same strategies Cyrene does. 20v20 isn't laggy. 100v100 is laggy. You can go to -1.99 before you're not allowed in 1.0 (if you were a pirate, you'd know these things lol). And as for gate tactics, I never said that pirates didn't use similar tactics. What I did say is that the pirates are there. You just can't find them to gank them because they see you coming from a mile away. You don't try to take out four pirates with four ships. You try and kill one ship with twenty. (You referring to your alliance). Killing pirates (or anyone for that matter) requires stealth. Stealth in the form of small, unassuming gangs. Not mini-fleets. Because I said so...**

Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:08:00 - [31] Edited by: Ikasu on 25/05/2007 02:07:03 Nevermind ------------------------------------------------- Attention Devs, for every isk you send me one member of your family will be returned safely.
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:14:00 - [32] Originally by: murder one 20v20 isn't laggy. 100v100 is laggy. You can go to -1.99 before you're not allowed in 1.0 (if you were a pirate, you'd know these things lol). And as for gate tactics, I never said that pirates didn't use similar tactics. What I did say is that the pirates are there. You just can't find them to gank them because they see you coming from a mile away. You don't try to take out four pirates with four ships. You try and kill one ship with twenty. (You referring to your alliance). Killing pirates (or anyone for that matter) requires stealth. Stealth in the form of small, unassuming gangs. Not mini-fleets. Let me have your babies. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ
Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:23:00 - [33] Originally by: deathforge Originally by: murder one 20v20 isn't laggy. 100v100 is laggy. You can go to -1.99 before you're not allowed in 1.0 (if you were a pirate, you'd know these things lol). And as for gate tactics, I never said that pirates didn't use similar tactics. What I did say is that the pirates are there. You just can't find them to gank them because they see you coming from a mile away. You don't try to take out four pirates with four ships. You try and kill one ship with twenty. (You referring to your alliance). Killing pirates (or anyone for that matter) requires stealth. Stealth in the form of small, unassuming gangs. Not mini-fleets. Let me have your babies. Really? because in my gang of four, just yesterday, I didn't find a single target after two hours worth of hunting. It has nothing to do with numbers, it just seems like Placid is empty. Though, today it has been much more active. At least in Aulbres. ------------------------------------------------- Attention Devs, for every isk you send me one member of your family will be returned safely.
deathforge The Accursed	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:32:00 - [34] Originally by: Ikasu Originally by: deathforge Originally by: murder one 20v20 isn't laggy. 100v100 is laggy. You can go to -1.99 before you're not allowed in 1.0 (if you were a pirate, you'd know these things lol). And as for gate tactics, I never said that pirates didn't use similar tactics. What I did say is that the pirates are there. You just can't find them to gank them because they see you coming from a mile away. You don't try to take out four pirates with four ships. You try and kill one ship with twenty. (You referring to your alliance). Killing pirates (or anyone for that matter) requires stealth. Stealth in the form of small, unassuming gangs. Not mini-fleets. Let me have your babies. Really? because in my gang of four, just yesterday, I didn't find a single target after two hours worth of hunting. It has nothing to do with numbers, it just seems like Placid is empty. Though, today it has been much more active. At least in Aulbres. Murder already pointed out why that's the case. Giving you a gank isn't good for business. It's not because some random pirate is scared of you or afraid of a proper fight, it's because pirates live entirely off knowing what the are and are not capable of engaging successfully. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ
Cornchips kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.25 02:48:00 - [35] Originally by: INTACTized Originally by: Ikasu I should be careful what I wish for. Theres a 9 pirate -10.00 gang camping the system i'm in, they've been at it for hours. Sheesh. Also, thanks for all the respectable answers, maybe i'll work up the balls to go to 0.0 sometime. I bet that was us. Who us?? No that wasn't us, we are just harmless noob carebears trying to mine enough veld to buy a cruiser.
Dr Slice kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:17:00 - [36] I tip my hat to all my fellow Pirates. This life isn't for everyone.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Academy Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:25:00 - [37] And what a fun life it is too . It's simple...be willing to put in the work. How far will a shark swim to find food? "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
cocaineblues	Posted - 2007.05.25 04:43:00 - [38] I've noticed some talk of fair fights, personally i don't like to be in one. I prefer the number of ships and odds in my favor. I'm sure most pirates do. I believe that is the definition of gank.
Ikasu Gallente The Durandal Organization The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:09:00 - [39] Originally by: deathforge Originally by: Ikasu Originally by: deathforge Originally by: murder one 20v20 isn't laggy. 100v100 is laggy. You can go to -1.99 before you're not allowed in 1.0 (if you were a pirate, you'd know these things lol). And as for gate tactics, I never said that pirates didn't use similar tactics. What I did say is that the pirates are there. You just can't find them to gank them because they see you coming from a mile away. You don't try to take out four pirates with four ships. You try and kill one ship with twenty. (You referring to your alliance). Killing pirates (or anyone for that matter) requires stealth. Stealth in the form of small, unassuming gangs. Not mini-fleets. Let me have your babies. Really? because in my gang of four, just yesterday, I didn't find a single target after two hours worth of hunting. It has nothing to do with numbers, it just seems like Placid is empty. Though, today it has been much more active. At least in Aulbres. Murder already pointed out why that's the case. Giving you a gank isn't good for business. It's not because some random pirate is scared of you or afraid of a proper fight, it's because pirates live entirely off knowing what the are and are not capable of engaging successfully. ------------------------------------------------- Attention Devs, for every isk you send me one member of your family will be returned safely.
Azirapheal Amarr Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:11:00 - [40] im one of the poor saps that still tries to belt hunt solo to be quite frank the number of people that dock/safe/logoffski the second im in system annoys the living hell out of me to the point that even with extremely fast and skilled use of the scanner - i cant catch the buggers in time with a cruiser, and with a frig its 50/50 at best (and im usually catchigna crusier or a ship i cant chew doing so) which leaves me drifting around in a battleship, camping stations and gates as i move so much less fun Yarrr sig nerf Thanks, Hango Hango touched me in the night I also stole all of your socks. He gave me the clean ones. -Rauth-he lied

Khel'tar	Posted - 2007.05.25 05:25:00 - [41] Yeah, and I'm always on around downtime when lowsec is nearly always deserted. You adapt though and work out where's good hunting. High sec and can flipping is good for a bit of relief if you can't find anyone too. -- Achura, the best stats. Pity it had to be caldari. Gallente 4tw.
Ren Tales Null Horizon	Posted - 2007.05.25 09:12:00 - [42] Originally by: Ikasu Where did the cool pirate go? The -10.00 badass who would pop a stargate if he had the firepower? Did he go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to him? Fixed. And since you asked, I live in Heydieles ---- The name is Tal-ez, not Tay-uls.
Heckelgruber	Posted - 2007.05.25 11:06:00 - [43] Originally by: Ikasu Edited by: Ikasu on 25/05/2007 05:14:15 What the hell, my post didn't show up, it was just the quote and...then blankness. Ah, to put it in a nutshell, even when I fly by myself I can't find targets, or even anyone in local. low sec placid just seems to be so empty, thats why I made this thread. That's right, lo-sec Placid is empty. It is DEFINITELY not worthwhile for the Cyrene Blob to patrol it...
mrsg33k Amarr 13th Mordu's Legionary Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2007.05.25 11:33:00 - [44] O cry my a river please Most are want to be pirates. Dude i see heaps of pirates around my system it just that most go off and hide when there is more then 2 people from the same corp. It just seen to me that pirates want to gank haulers. Well want to be pirates do but i have a idea how about you pirates gank pirates. lol you are so funny
Barbarra	Posted - 2007.05.25 12:04:00 - [45] Originally by: mrsg33k O cry my a river please Most are want to be pirates. Dude i see heaps of pirates around my system it just that most go off and hide when there is more then 2 people from the same corp. It just seen to me that pirates want to gank haulers. Well want to be pirates do but i have a idea how about you pirates gank pirates. First off, there is no such thing as 'real pirates' there are just pirates. There is no right or wrong way to pirate either. Any carebear that goes 'cry me a river' when pirates explain (not whine) that low sec is empty and no longer worth your while should jump in a frig and go pirate in low sec, and walk a mile in the pirates shoes. You think we have it easy, ganking here and there at will, well try it for yourself, you never know you might enjoy it. I don't think many pirates are looking for special privileges, but until you've experienced piracy first hand only then will you truly understand. And you mrsg33k, have absolutely no idea of what is piracy and how a pirate lives day to day.
Fuglife The Movement	Posted - 2007.05.25 16:35:00 - [46] Edited by: Fuglife on 25/05/2007 16:34:58 I've recently returned to pirating this week, i can't see what people are moaning about the lack of targets/blobs etc, I've killed 8 bs solo this week in the few hours i've played, some in belts some off gates, a couple had stabs/jameed me and got away, but thats fair enough. Im not into the whole blobbing thing, thats why i've got my eyepatch back out, lowsec is a refreshing change from 0.0 blobfest. I know Welsh Wizard! 3rd Best pvper in Eve
Kaleeb Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.05.26 05:49:00 - [47] Originally by: Fuglife Edited by: Fuglife on 25/05/2007 16:34:58 I've recently returned to pirating this week, i can't see what people are moaning about the lack of targets/blobs etc, I've killed 8 bs solo this week in the few hours i've played, some in belts some off gates, a couple had stabs/jameed me and got away, but thats fair enough. Im not into the whole blobbing thing, thats why i've got my eyepatch back out, lowsec is a refreshing change from 0.0 blobfest. did you find an armour rep in the end?
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.26 06:08:00 - [48] Real piracy? Here: LINK Because I said so...
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.26 09:47:00 - [49] More real pirates: I must say, it was a good fight. That Domi had completely killed my cap. I had to baby my rep and guns, and in the end had to turn off all my guns completely. And just sit and let the drones kill him off. I will say this: nothing beats a Neutron setup for blaster ships. I was using Ions on this particular Mega, and it just didn't do enough DPS with the new supertanks created by rigs etc. 2007.05.26 09:30 Victim: xxx Alliance: The Cyrene Initiative Corp: xxx Destroyed: Dominix System: Decon Security: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: xxx Security: -9.7 Alliance: Vigilance Infinitas Corp: CRICE Corporation Ship: Megathron Weapon: Berserker II Name: xxx (laid the final blow) Security: -8.9 Alliance: Vigilance Infinitas Corp: Death of Virtue Ship: Hurricane Weapon: Hobgoblin II Name: Serpentis Chief Watchman / Serpentis Corporation Destroyed items: Warp Disruptor II Ogre I (Drone Bay) Ogre I (Drone Bay) Ogre I (Drone Bay) Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Warrior II (Drone Bay) Warrior II (Drone Bay) Warrior II (Drone Bay) Medium Energy Neutralizer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Warrior II (Drone Bay) Heavy Capacitor Booster II Armor Explosive Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Con Because I said so...
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.05.26 22:34:00 - [50] Originally by: Ikasu Well, i've been staying in low sec a lot lately and i've noticed something...differant. Way back when I first started this game pirates would fly into a system, go belt to belt, find you and kill you usually within an hour of you entering the system. however, now I can't even find a pirate when I TRY, and they all seem to balance themselves at 4.5 sec status so they aren't KOS. Where did all the cool pirates go? The -10.00 badasses who would pop a stargate if they had the firepower? Did they all go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to them? I'm not saying they don't exist, but the last week or two they've just been gone. WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME! Come back ;-; i'll be your target if you'll be mine. Or at least, tell me where you all are? :/ Have you all become weekend warriors? Do I need to get on saturdays more? You can find me, the Black Fleet, ADF, and M34N corp in Heimatar. -Karlemgne Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.

murder one Gallente Death of Virtue Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.05.27 15:50:00 - [51] Now Cyrene is using noobs as bait? Booo! Bad show. 2007.05.27 15:11 Victim: Noob in a Megathron Alliance: NONE Corp: Lutin Group Destroyed: Megathron System: Decon Security: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: xxx Security: -9.8 Alliance: Vigilance Infinitas Corp: Death of Virtue Ship: Megathron Weapon: Megathron Name: xxx (laid the final blow) Security: -6.3 Alliance: Vigilance Infinitas Corp: Death of Virtue Ship: Drake Weapon: Scourge Heavy Missile Name: xxx Security: -0.6 Alliance: Vigilance Infinitas Corp: Nja'Shki Ship: Cerberus Weapon: Terror Assault Missile Destroyed items: 100MN MicroWarpdrive I Energized Thermic Membrane I Large Armor Repairer I Warp Disruptor I Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 526 (Cargo) Cap Booster 800, Qty: 12 (Cargo) Adaptive Nano Plating I Medium Nosferatu I Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 105 Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 105 Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 105 Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 105 Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 105 Antimatter Charge L, Qty: 105 Because I said so...
JoeT Amarr Short Attention Span Nex Eternus	Posted - 2007.05.27 19:26:00 - [52] Originally by: Ikasu Well, i've been staying in low sec a lot lately and i've noticed something...differant. Way back when I first started this game pirates would fly into a system, go belt to belt, find you and kill you usually within an hour of you entering the system. however, now I can't even find a pirate when I TRY, and they all seem to balance themselves at 4.5 sec status so they aren't KOS. Where did all the cool pirates go? The -10.00 badasses who would pop a stargate if they had the firepower? Did they all go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to them? I'm not saying they don't exist, but the last week or two they've just been gone. WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME! Come back ;-; i'll be your target if you'll be mine. Or at least, tell me where you all are? :/ Have you all become weekend warriors? Do I need to get on saturdays more? Check Placid :) and i know my ss is no longer -10, but -8.5 should do still
Zhett Haukes kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.27 19:40:00 - [53] They are around, there are just not many targets it seems. Now mission probing and gate camping - still seems to work.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2007.05.27 19:58:00 - [54] I've met a few hardcore pirates, the type that will blow up your ship and crush your pod and loot your wreck with no preference of ship type, they cannot be bribed nor can they be reasoned with, and they all have -10.0 and humerous Bio's. Most of the major pirates can be found between 0.4 - 0.2.
Grunanca	Posted - 2007.05.28 00:43:00 - [55] There was a huge gatecamp in amamake today.. go there, I never warped to belts there and actually got home with a ship.
Atreides Horza Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.05.29 00:14:00 - [56] Edited by: Atreides Horza on 29/05/2007 00:17:47 Originally by: Ikasu Really? because in my gang of four, just yesterday, I didn't find a single target after two hours worth of hunting. It has nothing to do with numbers, it just seems like Placid is empty. Though, today it has been much more active. At least in Aulbres. Hmmm... Must be a regional thing. Piracy in the area I'm living in, which is next door to yours, is thriving. Kills a-plenty, lots of action, juicy loot and good ransoms. Every belt is a banquet. Every system a feast. I don't know what brought about this change in EVE for me, cuz a month ago, I was about ready to declare piracy/pvp dead by headshot. I do suspect it has something to do with the way people fly though. The piracy act, and to some extent solo pvp, is like love, baby. It's that chance meeting between strangers - but it's all about timing if you wanna see sparks fly. If you're afraid of the encounter, or if you fear losing what you're flying in, it's not gonna happen... but if you're too aggressive, it won't happen either. You gotta woo them - and I'm not talking about hitting them with a chinese phone book here. Show them that you're interested (warp in and out, get closer and move away), but also let them understand that you don't necessarily go all the way on a first date (avoid the gangbangs)... It's flirting, really. Only with ships and guns. INFOD dancing lessons taught me that.
Thomas Torquemada Minmatar Universal Peace Corp	Posted - 2007.05.29 02:40:00 - [57] good targets (non bait/blob) are just hard to come by in some areas, people relise after a while its safer by far to travel with friends, or wait till the system goes quiet before traveling through/ratting. UPC - PVP'ers Good and Bad, How Do You Want Peace? Through Talk Or In A Casket? We Decide! Peace My Brothers...
killerkeano kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.05.29 03:34:00 - [58] until low sec has an incentive for carebears to operate in it all the decent isk to be made is in 0.0. though if you go to amamake and say hey come pop me in belt/ im sure you'll find plenty then. KLEPTO PUBLIC FORUM - for bears to whine and fellow pirates to come say hello
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.05.29 04:15:00 - [59] Originally by: mrsg33k O cry my a river please Most are want to be pirates. Dude i see heaps of pirates around my system it just that most go off and hide when there is more then 2 people from the same corp. It just seen to me that pirates want to gank haulers. Well want to be pirates do but i have a idea how about you pirates gank pirates. You will find a plethora of "want to be" pirates in Amamake!! Come and see, oh yea and bring friends. proud member of [BEES] my thoughts and ideas represent your corp
Bedardius D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.29 06:00:00 - [60] i just skimmed the topic, but I wanted to add something. (excuse any arrogance) I used to be a pirate.... hit -9.0 i beleive. But now it seems like everytime i warp into a belt or whatnot, 10 seconds later 4 blackbirds, 4 celestis's, and 15 caracals/ nos fitted ships come and and shank that living daylight out of me, and anyone else who is with me. after a few experiences with this, I promptly joined a 0.0 alliance to make isk and escape that crap. I sometimes enter low sec and try to arrange fair 1v1's but it seems (I wonder why) that no one wants to trust me. pity. obviously blobs and ganks are something i cannot change but from a pirate's perspective this is why I dont bother with the hurricane sitting in belt 1-1 in aunenen anymore. Bed ___________________________________ Yarr. Am i cool enough to say that?

eve warrior Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.29 06:04:00 - [61] Originally by: Ikasu Well, i've been staying in low sec a lot lately and i've noticed something...differant. Way back when I first started this game pirates would fly into a system, go belt to belt, find you and kill you usually within an hour of you entering the system. however, now I can't even find a pirate when I TRY, and they all seem to balance themselves at 4.5 sec status so they aren't KOS. Where did all the cool pirates go? The -10.00 badasses who would pop a stargate if they had the firepower? Did they all go away from Gallente space? Move to 0.0? Did Chuck Norris get to them? I'm not saying they don't exist, but the last week or two they've just been gone. WHY HAVE YOU ABANDONED ME! Come back ;-; i'll be your target if you'll be mine. Or at least, tell me where you all are? :/ Have you all become weekend warriors? Do I need to get on saturdays more? Try Akora. Heard there are some nasty bastards there killing haulers and what ever else they can get there hands on. You should stop by in your best ship, hopfully with Officer mods on if you want to kill them eve warrior
elorran Minmatar Ante Matter Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2007.05.29 07:41:00 - [62] Edited by: elorran on 29/05/2007 07:40:49 Originally by: eve warrior Try Akora. Heard there are some nasty bastards there killing haulers and what ever else they can get there hands on. You should stop by in your best ship, hopfully with Officer mods on if you want to kill them eve warrior Yeah, and why not tell them to put plenty of good loot into your ship's cargo hold as well just incase it survives after the ganking. - - Ante Matter - Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
Johnny Gurkha Infestation.	Posted - 2007.05.29 11:45:00 - [63] Edited by: Johnny Gurkha on 29/05/2007 11:44:24 Edited by: Johnny Gurkha on 29/05/2007 11:43:55 Originally by: 5pinDizzy I've met a few hardcore pirates, the type that will blow up your ship and crush your pod and loot your wreck with no preference of ship type, they cannot be bribed nor can they be reasoned with, and they all have -10.0 and humerous Bio's. Most of the major pirates can be found between 0.4 - 0.2. /join Nitro Lobby
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Temptation inc.	Posted - 2007.05.29 11:48:00 - [64] meh all real pirates are in 0.0 TEMPTATION INC. Killboard
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.05.29 11:53:00 - [65] Originally by: Chode Rizoum meh all real pirates are in 0.0 DE
General Coochie Gallente The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.05.29 12:36:00 - [66] Finally got under -5 yesterday, so here I am!
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Temptation inc.	Posted - 2007.05.29 13:05:00 - [67] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Chode Rizoum meh all real pirates are in 0.0 DE i dont like that look of that.. geuss i will be sleeping on the coutch tonight TEMPTATION INC. Killboard
veritas primus	Posted - 2007.05.29 15:32:00 - [68] Well firstly, I remember this question in this forum 2 years ago. I think the lack of "belt" mining targets in low sec is due the fact....who wants to risk mining garbage? Even if you're in 0.0 mining ark or whatever its not as rewarding as it used to be. You can make a fortune NPCing, or running missions. Its the change of the game....and CCP's lack of vision with "Economy" and "Marketing". They used to have a handle on this but it dwindling down to nothing. CCP introduced all these new regions and filled them full of drones which drop stuff to be refined into high end minerals. Wow....rocket science. Which would be awesome if said minerals had to be hauled to empire "the old way", but now they can be jump shipped with capitals. Brilliant!!! But yes...there are some pirates around with -10.0 mostly around LoneTrek with my travels, and yes they are cunningly finding new ways to adapt to a world that is driving them to extinction. /rant off
Azael Lightshade Amarr V i L e	Posted - 2007.05.29 17:18:00 - [69] The issues in 0.4-0.1 have increased a lot since X. No agruements there at all. To say there are no targets in low security (0.0 included) is pretty ignorant. There are numbers of corps and alliances that NPC and mine in low security (0.0 included) daily. Just so many fail to take the extra step to get that loot. Then you ponder up some excuse on why there is no ôrealö pirates in low security. Lots of targets out there. ;) Ҳ Ҳ Ҳ [PгסpђєŦ ơ₣ Ŧђє ŁīġђŦ] [√ 8 Ļ ε]
Dr Wahoos D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.01 04:45:00 - [70] I would love to say there ARE real pirates out there still, if i had the chance i would be one my self but tbh theres no opportunity to be a pirate anymore because the noobs that cant make it 0.0 go into empire and just blob and it sucks to say that there aren't many pirates that can still do there job, it just sucks that it cant be back to the womble days Your signature

Frodon Aliastra	Posted - 2007.06.01 09:48:00 - [71] Looking For Bad Ass -10 ??? Come to Jeon Constellation, They are numberous, they fight well. It's a good place to fight. Lot of -10 Corps ^^
Na'Thuul Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.01 11:56:00 - [72] Originally by: Ikasu Where did all the cool pirates go? Sanguine Legion disbanded ---


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