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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Manus
Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: fire 59 CCP, you have made a wonderful game which is thoroughly enjoyable to play. It has been infested with an entity who doesn't care about the community because they are there own community and will stop at nothing to kill the game it seems. Keep up the good work and don't let all teh assclowns get to you.
Couldn't agree more. Now if only this entity would break it's ties with CCP and stop seeking out unfair advantages from the developers maybe we could stop the torrent of people canceling their subscriptions. BoB, through cheating, has done more to hurt this game than any other alliance. One more big scandal like this and Eve is over with no one but CCP and your alliance to blame.
No, bob arent the ones spamming the forums causing it to have to be taken down. Bob arent the ones spamming mindless assumptions around on game websites, getting bad publicity for the game.
So by your definition, Nixon wasn't the guilty guy at Watergate, it was Woodward? Brilliant!
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Prall Grosserbauch
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:29:00 -
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Edited by: Prall Grosserbauch on 27/05/2007 06:28:49
Originally by: OverKill
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You'll have to help me out here, I'm not quite seeing why the fact that a game does not have an endgame makes cheating and developer misconduct something not worth caring about.
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OozoO
Caldari Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:32:00 -
[2553]
Originally by: Tod Klemp anyone that goes to kugfag's site can expect intrusions into their pc. So, better stash the **** and bank accounts.
it is still libel and mods are showing ******* favoritism for censoring only my posts! Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected]) |

Holocene
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:35:00 -
[2554]
About to break the 100 page mark 
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Miz Cenuij
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:37:00 -
[2555]
Am i on page 100 yet?
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |

Miz Cenuij
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:38:00 -
[2556]
no :(
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |

OozoO
Caldari Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:38:00 -
[2557]
Originally by: Miz Cenuij Am i on page 100 yet?
no, neither am I.
btw. everyone who keeps playing will spend another 92,97$ this year for bob online :) Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected]) |

Nikos Iscariot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: OverKill Ok (climbs on the box) time for me to chime in...
Simply put; who cares if they are cheating, who cares if they are not?!?! There is no endgame in EVE. You can never "win" like so many people claim. EVE is designed to be an everlasting labor of love for her developers and for those of us who play in this universe. It is an idea, a dream and a realization of that dream that persists whether you are online or not.
They killed my dreadnaught! So what, buy another one. They have access to T2 BPOs! So what, invent some of your own and don't buy from them. They have 1000 0.0 systems and we only have 550! So what, how much room do you honestly think you need? I saw XYZ talking to GM SuperKalaFragaListic! So what, how does it REALLY affect you?
The corp I am a member of has been here since day 1, we've had our shares of up and down and we've never once resorted to any kind of dev assisted advancement, even if it does exist. We'll never be the richest most powerful bunch of uber players but that suits us just fine and we enjoy the game for what it is, an extension of our imaginations.
Hey friend, you should come chill with us in 0.0 sometime. :)
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:49:00 -
[2559]
Edited by: Stahlregen on 27/05/2007 06:50:56
Page 100 Snipa
FNLN FOR CEO
In regards to the whole situation regarding the dev scandal i'd love for nothing more than a full and swift investigation.
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Prall Grosserbauch
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:49:00 -
[2560]
Edited by: Prall Grosserbauch on 27/05/2007 06:48:16
Originally by: Dominique Parr
You say they cheated, they say they didn't. Your word against theirs.
Also all that pesky "evidence" stuff but hey, let's just ignore that for now.
Edit: damnit, so close
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Nymos
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:50:00 -
[2561]
woot, page 100 --
Every time a carebear dies an angel gets their wings (murder one)
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OozoO
Caldari Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:50:00 -
[2562]
Originally by: Stahlregen I'm going to get the sniper and then auction the post off on the goonfleet forums, i reckon i could get a couple hundred mil at the very least for it.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, damnit Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected]) |

Fluffernator
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:50:00 -
[2563]
MMORPG REvies of EVE-O
Cast your votes, lets tank CCPS ratings for their abuse of their own player base........
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ssorion
Caldari The First Foundation Stella Polar
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:50:00 -
[2564]
Respect to GS for this 'threadnoughting'. It takes some effort to organise such forum-blob, and some courage to risk your account getting banned. Afterall, something happening is always better than nothing happening. Boredom kills faster than abuse/drama.
2 Whoever-manages-that-open-letter, please keep updating it, and preferrably with summary and list of questions to CCP. Reading 100-page long thread is not something casual gamer will do, and its too easy to evade inconvient questions for CCP IA in this mess.
BTW, tried to search for that 'Admiral Chamrajnagar', who claimed to be CCP DBA, and EVE said no such character... Yet on the screeine D2 presented he congrats BoB with killed titan in local... Renamed char ? Fake screenie ? lol
P.S. Post on page 100 of the Epic Thread, yay ! P.P.S This thread definitely goes in my favs in category 'examples how NOT to handle bewildered players'. No idea whether any cheating happened or not, but deleting petitions and trying to silence the crowd never works. Afterall, people pay the money, and deserve the right to be heard and answered, even if they are wrong.
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Aleek
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:50:00 -
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CCP has done nothing to build player trust. I know no one in game that doesnĘt think the T20 fiasco was handled horribly and amounted to a slap on the wrists at best. CCP now faces players assuming that CCP is guilty of breaking its own rules again because of the way T20 was handled.
The current players I know think that CCP is doing nothing about this current situation and feel that even if wrongdoing is found the punishment will be another slap on the wrists.
Players are quitting because of the way CCP handled T20, not so much of this incident. This incident pushed people over on the game. Sad because if T20 was handled better these players might trust the company to finish the investigation before deciding on their moves. Now factor in the Slashdotting, DIGGs, and other Internet posts.
CCP is building its own nightmare and appears to be arrogant enough to believe that there is no backlash. They could be right, but not forever. They have basically burned the trust card and probably will never get that back.
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FireFox McProwler
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: OverKill Ok (climbs on the box) time for me to chime in...
Some of you may know of me, and most of you probably do not. Sufficed to say, I have been here since before EVE was even released to the public. No, I'm not a fanboi, a dev or any other person except myself. I've been here since Alpha, Beta and day 1 of release. I can honestly say that aside from the 20-30 times that I've had all the devs over for a BBQ at my place (levity, humor, all that), I haven't had a single interaction with any of them ingame (that I am aware of) and it really makes no difference to me whether I do or not.
Simply put; who cares if they are cheating, who cares if they are not?!?! There is no endgame in EVE. You can never "win" like so many people claim. EVE is designed to be an everlasting labor of love for her developers and for those of us who play in this universe. It is an idea, a dream and a realization of that dream that persists whether you are online or not.
They killed my dreadnaught! So what, buy another one. They have access to T2 BPOs! So what, invent some of your own and don't buy from them. They have 1000 0.0 systems and we only have 550! So what, how much room do you honestly think you need? I saw XYZ talking to GM SuperKalaFragaListic! So what, how does it REALLY affect you?
The corp I am a member of has been here since day 1, we've had our shares of up and down and we've never once resorted to any kind of dev assisted advancement, even if it does exist. We'll never be the richest most powerful bunch of uber players but that suits us just fine and we enjoy the game for what it is, an extension of our imaginations.
Perhaps some of you need to take a good hard look at exactly what you are playing and what type of game you WANT to play. If you want an endgame then maybe you should be looking elsewhere. If you want to analyze, adapt and overcome then this is the place for you.
The only issue that the players should be concerned with (most of you are, even hidden under 98 pages of somewhat murky waters) is the issue of a player being banned by a GM without a VERY thorough investigation. CCP does need to institute a policy in regards to banning, perhaps a two tier response system. GM 1 opts to ban a player for whatever reason, he needs someone else to execute said ban. (nuke missile keys anyone?!?!). Banning should require a fair bit of thought and investigation before its done!
Anyways, I came, I saw, I said my peace...
For the record, I am wearing asbestos underwear and am hereby flameproof.
Regards, OK
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I agree with this. I was a gm for the Lineage 2 privet server Eternal Sin. You need to put some thought into what is required to ban some. When someone with the ability to ban someone is in a bad mood the person is going to be harsher then normal. Plus the reasons for banning someone i think need a little work.
but in the end you must remember your on there service. They have the right to remove you without a reason. So them giving you a reason is there choice.
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OozoO
Caldari Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: ssorion Respect to GS for this 'threadnoughting'. It takes some effort to organise such forum-blob, and some courage to risk your account getting banned. Afterall, something happening is always better than nothing happening. Boredom kills faster than abuse/drama.
2 Whoever-manages-that-open-letter, please keep updating it, and preferrably with summary and list of questions to CCP. Reading 100-page long thread is not something casual gamer will do, and its too easy to evade inconvient questions for CCP IA in this mess.
BTW, tried to search for that 'Admiral Chamrajnagar', who claimed to be CCP DBA, and EVE said no such character... Yet on the screeine D2 presented he congrats BoB with killed titan in local... Renamed char ? Fake screenie ? lol
that screen wasnt altered, I guess he's still ig but you cant find him via p&p Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected]) |

Zephirz
Cruoris Seraphim
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:53:00 -
[2568]
The biggest dramabomb ever tbh :)
zephirz
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BoeserBiber
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:55:00 -
[2569]
20 posts til 3000  Do not troll in your signature and do not repost a signature that was removed by a moderator. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected]) |

Subflict
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:58:00 -
[2570]
postin
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Iiva
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Posted - 2007.05.27 06:59:00 -
[2571]
To be fair: I'm sure there's plenty of people within CCP that are ****ed off at the one or two people who have caused such a number of the playerbase to lose trust in the company. I wonder if this whole discussion could be routed a bit, talking more about ways that CCP could help prevent stuff like this from happening (because I'm sure they're not ALL behind it), instead of trash talking every single person in the company because of the sins of a couple.
I guess they're really starting to feel the effects of one scandal now... and the "wrath" that is a swarm of self-proclaimed "internet warriors" like Goons. Saddest part is that everyone just falls for what seems to be a well planned-out troll/flamebait set by people who do this all the time.
*shakes fist* Shame on you, and for all of you supposedly canceling your accounts over this: Good riddance, Darwin strikes again :>
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Dominique Parr
Taggart Transdimensional
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:00:00 -
[2572]
Edited by: Dominique Parr on 27/05/2007 07:00:27
Originally by: Elmo Noguchi
*snip* Do NOT post images in this forum.
And if you can say that either side, as a whole, has been civil, you're so woefully biased that it's not even worth talking about. There's plenty you can say about the Goons and friends and about BoB, but if you try to say either side is being polite and well-reasoned here your word is worthless.
Please forgive me, but I don't feel an alt character created after this thread was started has any credibility. As for my bias. I don't know BoB and I don't know Goons. So my opinions after reading most of this thread are determined from a very unbiased point of view. There are always the few from each side who lack a civil tongue in an open discussion. Maybe the Goons should ask theirs to not post? This way an open active dialogue can be achieved and this matter could have been resolved a more expedited manner.
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Qutan
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:02:00 -
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Whats required here is quick and truthful action from ccp, sadly this has not happened, as in real politcs you should never leave a void, it will only be filled by the masses with truth, half truth, rumour and lies and this then leads to loss of confidence in a leader , a leader should lead, ccp has failed at this issue . Lets hope its not too late to repair the damage I for one really hope so, I love the game and have waited many years since elite to play this type of game
So come on all at CCP get your act together we know you are all computer geeks with a less than real world business attitude (Ive watched some of you on eve tv yeah before the broadcast times, got a god idea what you guys are like ) get your act together and show some strong LEADERSHIP !
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Jovius Marginus
Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:03:00 -
[2574]
Anyone wanna eve-mail me some pics of a certain t-naught I missed it =/
Oh and CCP refused my Mach reimbursment(seriously deserved it) and closed it when I said "Its cool I know Sir Molle" so I'm gonna ask the important question noone else has asked.
wtf d4vh4x?!?!/??
Its a tough quetion I hope CCP can find an answer for.
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Elmo Noguchi
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:06:00 -
[2575]
Edited by: Elmo Noguchi on 27/05/2007 07:06:12
Originally by: Dominique Parr Edited by: Dominique Parr on 27/05/2007 07:00:27
Originally by: Elmo Noguchi
*snip* Do NOT post images in this forum.
And if you can say that either side, as a whole, has been civil, you're so woefully biased that it's not even worth talking about. There's plenty you can say about the Goons and friends and about BoB, but if you try to say either side is being polite and well-reasoned here your word is worthless.
Please forgive me, but I don't feel an alt character created after this thread was started has any credibility. As for my bias. I don't know BoB and I don't know Goons. So my opinions after reading most of this thread are determined from a very unbiased point of view. There are always the few from each side who lack a civil tongue in an open discussion. Maybe the Goons should ask theirs to not post? This way an open active dialogue can be achieved and this matter could have been resolved a more expedited manner.
This character was created because my main was banned for posting in (just posting in, asking for clarification) one of the threads while CCP was still feverishly trying to delete all of the posts about the subject.
As for the rest about how unbiased you are and therefore you can see that the Goons are doing wrong but the BoB responders are A-OK...well. That can stand or fall on it's own merits.
Originally by: Jovius Marginus Anyone wanna eve-mail me some pics of a certain t-naught I missed it =/
Oh and CCP refused my Mach reimbursment(seriously deserved it) and closed it when I said "Its cool I know Sir Molle" so I'm gonna ask the important question noone else has asked.
wtf d4vh4x?!?!/??
Its a tough quetion I hope CCP can find an answer for.
The threadnaught wasn't actually a single thread. After the single thread got quickly deleted without response, the goons spammed every forum with posts with a link to their open letter. Not too screenshot worthy, but I guess it worked.
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Pie Cakes
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dominique Parr Edited by: Dominique Parr on 27/05/2007 07:00:27
Please forgive me, but I don't feel an alt character created after this thread was started has any credibility. As for my bias. I don't know BoB and I don't know Goons. So my opinions after reading most of this thread are determined from a very unbiased point of view. There are always the few from each side who lack a civil tongue in an open discussion. Maybe the Goons should ask theirs to not post? This way an open active dialogue can be achieved and this matter could have been resolved a more expedited manner.
Not gonna happen. Once BoB/Goons/alts start posting, the thread instantly becomes CAOD. |

Jovius Marginus
Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Elmo Noguchi Edited by: Elmo Noguchi on 27/05/2007 07:06:12
Originally by: Dominique Parr Edited by: Dominique Parr on 27/05/2007 07:00:27
Originally by: Elmo Noguchi
*snip* Do NOT post images in this forum.
And if you can say that either side, as a whole, has been civil, you're so woefully biased that it's not even worth talking about. There's plenty you can say about the Goons and friends and about BoB, but if you try to say either side is being polite and well-reasoned here your word is worthless.
Please forgive me, but I don't feel an alt character created after this thread was started has any credibility. As for my bias. I don't know BoB and I don't know Goons. So my opinions after reading most of this thread are determined from a very unbiased point of view. There are always the few from each side who lack a civil tongue in an open discussion. Maybe the Goons should ask theirs to not post? This way an open active dialogue can be achieved and this matter could have been resolved a more expedited manner.
This character was created because my main was banned for posting in (just posting in, asking for clarification) one of the threads while CCP was still feverishly trying to delete all of the posts about the subject.
As for the rest about how unbiased you are and therefore you can see that the Goons are doing wrong but the BoB responders are A-OK...well. That can stand or fall on it's own merits.
Originally by: Jovius Marginus Anyone wanna eve-mail me some pics of a certain t-naught I missed it =/
Oh and CCP refused my Mach reimbursment(seriously deserved it) and closed it when I said "Its cool I know Sir Molle" so I'm gonna ask the important question noone else has asked.
wtf d4vh4x?!?!/??
Its a tough quetion I hope CCP can find an answer for.
The threadnaught wasn't actually a single thread. After the single thread got quickly deleted without response, the goons spammed every forum with posts with a link to their open letter. Not too screenshot worthy, but I guess it worked.
Thats disappointing. Last one is the only thing I ever found funny about the goons. Sry to say but Goons just went from potentially funny to /fail
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Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Dominique Parr
Originally by: Prall Grosserbauch Edited by: Prall Grosserbauch on 27/05/2007 06:28:49
Originally by: OverKill
words
You'll have to help me out here, I'm not quite seeing why the fact that a game does not have an endgame makes cheating and developer misconduct something not worth caring about.
You say they cheated, they say they didn't. Your word against theirs. And before you go saying "They did it in the past." (A lame arguement if you ask me.) Since when does one person's guilt encompass an entire group?
I'm pretty sure since bob tried to grief goonswarm out of the game for having a signature on their own private forums that we now get to do that to them.
So that's what this is about huh, not about justice or fairplay. It's all about goons getting hurt by BoB and now it's time for revenge by spamming and trying to discredit BoB & CCP. Thanks for the explanation there Stahlregen, i hope people will soon see you for who you really are. |

EFF ONEF1
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:11:00 -
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while i may be a noob. (played for a few, quit, then just came back)
i can see no resolution to this.
only thing i can suggest is that ALL non-bob alliances make peace and assault their space immediately.
even single empire pilots and rats put their differences aside and destroy the ingame symbol of this favortism.
a witch hunt, yes.
but given the past with ccp intervention in regards to bob, alot of what has transpired is hard to ignore. some of it circumstantial, yes, but most no. and given the past precedent and lack of communication and not-so-subtle sweeping under the rug, history is repeating itself.
we can turn this forum madness into ingame construction and show all of EVE (indeed the game industry as this is widely known) that even with this allegeded favortism, EVE is about players and we can over come this, TOGETHER. first by removing the very mechanism this favortism uses. BoB.
the stage is set for possibly THE largest conflict in gaming history. i forsee many a youtube video upcomming!
its a long weekend in america. and im sure that the various alliance leaders (even those who cancled and still have time left) can make this happen.
forget the boards, settle it in space.
ill throw my noob 4mil sp caracal into the action!
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Elmo Noguchi
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Posted - 2007.05.27 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: Elmo Noguchi on 27/05/2007 07:12:02
Originally by: Jovius Marginus
Originally by: Elmo Noguchi Edited by: Elmo Noguchi on 27/05/2007 07:06:12
Originally by: Dominique Parr Edited by: Dominique Parr on 27/05/2007 07:00:27
Originally by: Elmo Noguchi
*snip* Do NOT post images in this forum.
And if you can say that either side, as a whole, has been civil, you're so woefully biased that it's not even worth talking about. There's plenty you can say about the Goons and friends and about BoB, but if you try to say either side is being polite and well-reasoned here your word is worthless.
Please forgive me, but I don't feel an alt character created after this thread was started has any credibility. As for my bias. I don't know BoB and I don't know Goons. So my opinions after reading most of this thread are determined from a very unbiased point of view. There are always the few from each side who lack a civil tongue in an open discussion. Maybe the Goons should ask theirs to not post? This way an open active dialogue can be achieved and this matter could have been resolved a more expedited manner.
This character was created because my main was banned for posting in (just posting in, asking for clarification) one of the threads while CCP was still feverishly trying to delete all of the posts about the subject.
As for the rest about how unbiased you are and therefore you can see that the Goons are doing wrong but the BoB responders are A-OK...well. That can stand or fall on it's own merits.
Originally by: Jovius Marginus Anyone wanna eve-mail me some pics of a certain t-naught I missed it =/
Oh and CCP refused my Mach reimbursment(seriously deserved it) and closed it when I said "Its cool I know Sir Molle" so I'm gonna ask the important question noone else has asked.
wtf d4vh4x?!?!/??
Its a tough quetion I hope CCP can find an answer for.
The threadnaught wasn't actually a single thread. After the single thread got quickly deleted without response, the goons spammed every forum with posts with a link to their open letter. Not too screenshot worthy, but I guess it worked.
Thats disappointing. Last one is the only thing I ever found funny about the goons. Sry to say but Goons just went from potentially funny to /fail
Yeah, goons, how come you couldn't expose allegations of corruption AND be hilarious 
Shame on you goons
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Stahlregen
Originally by: Dominique Parr
Originally by: Prall Grosserbauch Edited by: Prall Grosserbauch on 27/05/2007 06:28:49
Originally by: OverKill
words
You'll have to help me out here, I'm not quite seeing why the fact that a game does not have an endgame makes cheating and developer misconduct something not worth caring about.
You say they cheated, they say they didn't. Your word against theirs. And before you go saying "They did it in the past." (A lame arguement if you ask me.) Since when does one person's guilt encompass an entire group?
I'm pretty sure since bob tried to grief goonswarm out of the game for having a signature on their own private forums that we now get to do that to them.
So that's what this is about huh, not about justice or fairplay. It's all about goons getting hurt by BoB and now it's time for revenge by spamming and trying to discredit BoB & CCP. Thanks for the explanation there Stahlregen, i hope people will soon see you for who you really are.
You're saying that Goons targetting CCP for things that don't relate to BoB at all is somehow...an attack to get back at BoB? You're not helping your case much here.
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