Originally by: The Economist

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1: It forces people to use ship maintenance arrays; these were previously woefully underused. [this also gives everyone a very simple way to avoid being bowled....any ship losess to supercap bowling are directly attributable to sheer laziness rather than anything else]

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Originally by: Splagada

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SEED ME DADDY

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Originally by: Jethro Jerico

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I know it was fun

Why oh why did somebody have to go and use it against BOB??!??

now its banned

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Originally by: Elmicker

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Originally by: The Economist

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1: It forces people to use ship maintenance arrays; these were previously woefully underused. [this also gives everyone a very simple way to avoid being bowled....any ship losess to supercap bowling are directly attributable to sheer laziness rather than anything else]

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You obviously havent tried to use a ship maintenance array during wartime in a reinforced pos with 300+ in local.

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Originally by: The Economist

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Originally by: Elmicker

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Originally by: The Economist

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1: It forces people to use ship maintenance arrays; these were previously woefully underused. [this also gives everyone a very simple way to avoid being bowled....any ship losess to supercap bowling are directly attributable to sheer laziness rather than anything else]

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You obviously havent tried to use a ship maintenance array during wartime in a reinforced pos with 300+ in local.

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Sorry, forgot it was necessary to wait till the pos is in reinforced and there are 300 people in local to use a module as intended

...and yes this is a serious thread for the reasons stated in the original post.

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Originally by: Alora Venoda

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it may have "positive" impacts, but it still breaks the intended mechanics of the POS shields.

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Originally by: Ozzie Asrail

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Originally by: The Economist

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Originally by: Elmicker

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Originally by: The Economist

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1: It forces people to use ship maintenance arrays; these were previously woefully underused. [this also gives everyone a very simple way to avoid being bowled....any ship losess to supercap bowling are directly attributable to sheer laziness rather than anything else]

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You obviously havent tried to use a ship maintenance array during wartime in a reinforced pos with 300+ in local.

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Sorry, forgot it was necessary to wait till the pos is in reinforced and there are 300 people in local to use a module as intended

...and yes this is a serious thread for the reasons stated in the original post.

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Well, with a POS in reinfoced and 300+ in local is usually the sort of time people do actually need a ship out of the damn array

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Originally by: "GM Grimmi"

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pos bowling exploit
reported by GM Grimmi | 2007.05.30 16:35:04 | NEW
Greetings,

The so-called "POS Bowling" will from here on be considered an exploit. While it is true that this is not verifiable after the fact by way of logs, GMs are able to go ingame and monitor situations at will, and do it without anyone knowing. If we catch anyone doing this we will take the appropriate action against them. We therefore urge Titan and Mothership pilots to refrain from using their ships to bump ships out of POS forcefields, or risk facing punitive measures for exploiting.

All the best,

GM Grimmi
Lead Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support

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Originally by: Treelox

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you have your answer now

Originally by: "GM Grimmi"

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pos bowling exploit
reported by GM Grimmi | 2007.05.30 16:35:04 | NEW
Greetings,

The so-called "POS Bowling" will from here on be considered an exploit. While it is true that this is not verifiable after the fact by way of logs, GMs are able to go ingame and monitor situations at will, and do it without anyone knowing. If we catch anyone doing this we will take the appropriate action against them. We therefore urge Titan and Mothership pilots to refrain from using their ships to bump ships out of POS forcefields, or risk facing punitive measures for exploiting.

All the best,

GM Grimmi
Lead Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support

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Originally by: The Economist

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If you read the original post you should be able to work out that this thread is quite clearly a response to the new item that you have quoted.

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Originally by: The Economist

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Originally by: Treelox

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you have your answer now

Originally by: "GM Grimmi"

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pos bowling exploit
reported by GM Grimmi | 2007.05.30 16:35:04 | NEW
Greetings,

The so-called "POS Bowling" will from here on be considered an exploit. While it is true that this is not verifiable after the fact by way of logs, GMs are able to go ingame and monitor situations at will, and do it without anyone knowing. If we catch anyone doing this we will take the appropriate action against them. We therefore urge Titan and Mothership pilots to refrain from using their ships to bump ships out of POS forcefields, or risk facing punitive measures for exploiting.

All the best,

GM Grimmi
Lead Game Master
EVE Online Customer Support

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If you read the original post you should be able to work out that this thread is quite clearly a response to the new item that you have quoted.

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Originally by: Derovius Vaden

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You sir, have been wtfpwnbbq'ed by Grimmi.

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Originally by: Jimer Lins

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So if someone gets banned while in a ship... is the ship lost to the game?

Or is their pod merely removed from it and it's left floating in space?

Because either way, I can see how it would kind of suck for your Titan pilot to get caught doing this. *banned* *Titan poof* or *banned* *Titan SNAG*

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Originally by: WhitePhantom

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BoB members have gone on record saying they only began to use it again AFTER another GM told another alliance it was NOT an exploit. This was only after they STOP using this said method, after they were told it WAS an exploit.

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Originally by: The Economist

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POS Bowling needs to be re-defined (again) as not being an exploit for two important reasons.

1: It forces people to use ship maintenance arrays; these were previously woefully underused. [this also gives everyone a very simple way to avoid being bowled....any ship losess to supercap bowling are directly attributable to sheer laziness rather than anything else]

2: The more ships there are on a grid, the more lag there is. Previously there was no way whatsoever to counter the massive lag generated at pos's by the countless ships carelessly left in space.[it has often been alleged of people that they leave said ships at pos purely to generate lag.] POS bowling gave the community a way to reduce the lag problems by removing the ships from the grid or forcing the offenders to use ship maintenance arrays for their intended purpose.

In summary, I don't know what provoked yet another policy change on this issue, but please seriously consider reverting to the previous ruling for the reasons stated above.

Cheers.

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If your afraid of "BoB" being able to "contact" staff out of game, here is a really good suggestion, don't use the exploit.

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Originally by: Selena 001

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I was under the impression that the PoS bubbles were being changed to act similarly to warp bubbles, if you dont have access to the PoS. You dont fly into it, then bounce off, you simply drop out of warp on the edge...

OFC, that could have just been said by someone for a giggle... but it sounds like a logical change...

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Originally by: The Economist

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POS Bowling needs to be re-defined (again) as not being an exploit for two important reasons.

1: It forces people to use ship maintenance arrays; these were previously woefully underused. [this also gives everyone a very simple way to avoid being bowled....any ship losess to supercap bowling are directly attributable to sheer laziness rather than anything else]

2: The more ships there are on a grid, the more lag there is. Previously there was no way whatsoever to counter the massive lag generated at pos's by the countless ships carelessly left in space.[it has often been alleged of people that they leave said ships at pos purely to generate lag.] POS bowling gave the community a way to reduce the lag problems by removing the ships from the grid or forcing the offenders to use ship maintenance arrays for their intended purpose.

In summary, I don't know what provoked yet another policy change on this issue, but please seriously consider reverting to the previous ruling for the reasons stated above.

Cheers.

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Originally by: Shinigami

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The problem is that you have people abusing the intended mechanics of the game. People weren't even using the storage structures. They would just place unmanned haulers for item storage. All risk is negated at this point without pos bowling.

"Is someone sieging your pos? It's not a problem because you can just warp away your stuff to safety after they go to bed. There's no reason to defend because all you will lose is a control tower."

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Originally by: Ion Flux

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Ya know one of the main reason i liked eve was it looked great..played Great
and when i saw pos bowling i was appalled......this one thing just ruined it

Bowling is stupid...ever watched a space movie and seen pos bowling....wait there is 5 deathstars lined up there....Right Han..we should bowl them....ok chewy......come on..this is exploit ...this is stupid..this is lame....lame lame lame and ccp should be ashamed of themselves for loosing control of this game....it justed seemed if they couldnt control it ...it wasnt an exploit.....nothing like sitting under the pos sheilds...try to stay safe and 15 Cap ships come in...i bounce out and get targeted..what fun ..NOT...( ya i know i suck at writing..)

EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT EXPLOIT

Ion

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Originally by: Agent Li

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Well, you don't see the Millenium Falcon bumping Star Destroyers to keep them from aligning to warp, either.

Usually, when something in Star Wars "bumps", the smaller ship explodes in a ball of flame...

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Originally by: Shinigami

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signed

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Originally by: bloomich

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Edited by: bloomich on 31/05/2007 15:32:47

Originally by: Agent Li

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Well, you don't see the Millenium Falcon bumping Star Destroyers to keep them from aligning to warp, either.

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Incorrect. A Single A-Wing bumped a Super Star Destroyer into the deathstar. Watch the film for yourself!

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Originally by: Won Swunglow

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Originally by: Shinigami

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signed

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lol just have a chat with the boss, it'll soon be forgoten about mate

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Originally by: Jimer Lins

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So if someone gets banned while in a ship... is the ship lost to the game?

Or is their pod merely removed from it and it's left floating in space?

Because either way, I can see how it would kind of suck for your Titan pilot to get caught doing this. *banned* *Titan poof* or *banned* *Titan SNAG*

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