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M1NeR
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:12:00 -
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Having twice the numbers (and even a carrier!!) yet receiving such losses... I wouldn't be righting about such crappy results here if I was you hydras. -------
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EFF ONEF1
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: JMcClane I hope you'll let me put my 5 cents in.
First off, thanks to Hydra for a nice fight. Numbers, skills, modules, whatever set aside, the battlefield was even. We had a nice long enduring fight, Hydra took the field, sure enough, but at the end of the day, we tossed around quite a few of you, had some fun, and that's what it's all about... tossing around some Hydra's that is :)
Since Minigin felt that this smaller engagement needed to go on the forums, I'd like to do a little writeup of another trip to C-FP we had... 2 days prior to this one. It was approx. the same numbers, duration and size of engagement, so let's put it all out on the table shall we. Details can be found on our killboard for those who want to go into details.
Basically scenario was the same... bla bla bla... to C-FP70.... bla bla bla Hydra forming up defense... bla bla bla, us jumping into the mess outnumbered, but perhaps not outgunned. We had a nice long 10 minute fight. Kudos!
Number break down (Including specific ship types)
Hydra (48 total): 5 Elite Frigates 15 Cruisers 2 Elite Cruisers 10 Battlecruisers 9 Battleships 3 Frigates, 1 Carrier, 3 Elite Battlecruisers
Blind Beavers side (17 total): 6 battlecruisers 1 Elite Frigate 1 Elite Destroyer (also known as Interdictor) 4 Elite Cruisers 1 Elite Battlecruiser 2 Battleships 1 Cruiser 1 Corporation (Also known as Guristas, guess someone got some fire from a gate rat or whatever) :)
Losses Hydra (26 ships, 0 pod): 3 Elite Frigates 12 Cruisers 1 Elite Cruiser 6 Battlecruisers 2 Battleships 2 Frigates
Losses Blind Beavers (5 ships, 1 pod): 3 Battlecruisers 1 Elite Frigate 1 Elite Destroyer 1 Capsule
Again Hydra held the field in the end as several of their pilot warped straight back into a new ship when they were downed. Some of them even lost 2 ships in the engagement.
Why do I post all this, you may ask... well... I just figured everyone else should get a more clear picture on how a regular battle vs. Hydra goes down. It really is a shame not to give ppl a clear picture. Your killboard did show this picture until you took down the campaign!
See you in C-FP for more fights... Your strength is numbers, ours is modules and skills i guess. Sooner or later, we will bring enough to take you on even in full numbers. In other words... Hydra, you're running out of members! :)
Thats pretty telling right there.
Lots of T2 vs even more T1.
But in the end all that matters is how much fun you ad and who held the field.
But i honestly cant see hydra sustaining those losses over and extended period. ----------------------------------------------- I have been known to take shuttles to various parts of 0.0
Why?
Don't really know.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:37:00 -
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what the hell is wrong with so many of you!!!!!!!! this was a fun battle... this is in no way the propaganda post that you are making it out to be... it does not need contextualisation...
and frankly mcclane ide point out if we where to truley contextualise, your loss of a carrier would have to give us more of an idea on how things work in c-f
i am pretty disapointed that so many people lacked the maturity to see that this was in no way a smack/flame/propaganda thread but it has been dragged down that path, my presence in a thread... while usualy is followed by smack and flames doesnt have to be.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
Same here
Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p ------
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
Same here
Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p
yes well im trying my best here >_>
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Preator Rushview
The Knights Templar Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:46:00 -
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Wish I could've been there, I do love a good pewpew.
Sounds like a nice fight, even better than the scrap in C-F 2 days before.
'Grats to both sides.
P
Originally by: Minigin go troll a forum like i do
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:52:00 -
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ahhhh Hydra, lovely, sounds like u had fun.
We will see you in space and hope for the same.
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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touchvill
Citadel of dark arts Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin what the hell is wrong with so many of you!!!!!!!! this was a fun battle... this is in no way the propaganda post that you are making it out to be... it does not need contextualisation...
and frankly mcclane ide point out if we where to truley contextualise, your loss of a carrier would have to give us more of an idea on how things work in c-f
i am pretty disapointed that so many people lacked the maturity to see that this was in no way a smack/flame/propaganda thread but it has been dragged down that path, my presence in a thread... while usualy is followed by smack and flames doesnt have to be.
The first mistake was posting it on the eve forums.
It's all smack and propoganda on the eve forums. Which is why so many probably so it as such.
Fun is good though. Maybe you should put in big lettering in the op that it's in the name of fun and isn't a bragging thread. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Marvn Riley
Amarr Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
Same here
Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p
yes well im trying my best here >_>
If the ones who lost ships are smiling in the end; that is enough. Screw numerics, screw statistics, to hell with all that. Can't be bothered with it.
I'm too busy smiling.
Marvn
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Marvn Riley
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
Same here
Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p
yes well im trying my best here >_>
If the ones who lost ships are smiling in the end; that is enough. Screw numerics, screw statistics, to hell with all that. Can't be bothered with it.
I'm too busy smiling.
Marvn
o7 it is an honour to fight people with such a great attitude. its that "screw it we are going in" attitude that gets these good fights. EVE would be a better place if more people where like you.
o7o7o7
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:44:00 -
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well done for fighting. As you are proberbly aware now, we'll be around for a while. so you'll have plenty of opporunity to prove yourselves over the comming weeks, sadly i couldnt make yesterday. I was taunting goons in london.
*Snip* for trolling - Timmeh
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Scordaf
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:08:00 -
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Quote: Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
I seem to recall a 30 odd man Hydra fleet flying around near your space earlier in the day, only to get turned back by... What was it... 50 or so of your ships. Perhaps you were planning to only engage with half your fleet? The rest were only there to spectate perhaps?
And strangely enough, your only concept of 'even' is numeric. Lets not talk about how the average 'even' fight involves TRI in BS/T2 versus us in T1. 0.o
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Whalesaver
mega mining corporation Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:16:00 -
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Nice write up Minigin (Whalesaver is still recovering from sensible Mini COAD post shock )
It was a good fun fight. To those posters insistent on denigrating us, your actions reflect poorly on yourselves.
We don't pretend we are an elite pvp alliance, we do however enjoy the fight. -----------------------
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lethario desrtuction
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: lethario desrtuction on 10/06/2007 14:52:08 Just want to add Thank you for the fun.Main point of the battle was no one logged off like most fights in eve these days.I was one of the first to lose my ship and even after the battle was over I was still smiling. 35 jumps away looking at a pod feeling good.o7 to all and thanks for a fun day in eve!
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:08:00 -
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From my point ... ... its fights like these that make eve worth playing. ... its not about who got the bigger and better capital ship fleets. ... its not about who can sit in a 100 man gang for hours speculating how to get more. ... its not about shoting pos's or frapsing your self orbiting a titan. ... its about risking what you got and go out with a bang if needed.
Up yours to both of the bandwagons who seem to be playing eve like Risk. We're having a blast up here while you sit in your uber blobs squeezing kittens.
Tri, hands off, hydra is ours... or do you want to do something about it? 
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Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: JMcClane
See you in C-FP for more fights... Your strength is numbers, ours is modules and skills i guess. Sooner or later, we will bring enough to take you on even in full numbers. In other words... Hydra, you're running out of members! :)
I hope our skills will increase just like your numbers, so the fun fights continue  Doesnt look like we are running out of members atm
Oh yeah, one of the best fights i had in EVE so far. Not too many participants (=few lag) not too few. No POS, no hours of waiting, just fighting.
Thanks for the fight everyone!
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Tarock Sharn
Caldari Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:46:00 -
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Nice fight,
Hydra and BB stood our ground as people had said. Both sides fort well and deserve respect for their actions and there was no smack talk. BB with some buddies came to CF knowing they would be out numbered but they still came and no one can take that from them. They had T2 vs out large amount of T1. From where I was over all it seemed an even fight and the balance for a long time could have gone either way, in the end our numbers proved too much and BB/SA left the field.
I thank you for coming.
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Weka Dart
Caldari Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.06.10 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Weka Dart on 10/06/2007 16:28:57 The NEW northern carebears better watch out.
Triumvirate will be the new BOB of the north.
I don't think they are as nice as BOB either, so be afraid.
Hope Darknessss can keep a firm hand on all his pilots, for my money it will be a hard job, when you assemble that many pirate / killers in one place, you better keep them busy killing or they will start shooting blues 
As can be seen in this thread, already there may be signs of the 'pirate smack personae' shining through.
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Darth Kenzie
Amarr Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 19:28:00 -
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Yea it was a great fight and I hope we can have more of them (already bought a new BS and BC to replace the two I lost, gotta love insurable ships).
Minigin nice post, but stop fighting with the haters no real point.
'til we meet again.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.10 19:30:00 -
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If Hydra beat you, you are seriously doing something wrong!
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The Rincewind
Reign in Blood Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
That counts for TV too.........
If they just had 19 to engage hydra... it was on their own risk.
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Duff Man
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.13 03:32:00 -
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Grats on the Win Minigin!
As for you bloody smacktards in here talking about bigger numbers blah blah blah. If you attack someone that can bring 3 x more active pilots into a battle than you, be prepared to deal with it. This crap about (Oh whine, they have to field double numbers to get even kills) is nonsense.
Two of the most important factors that contribute to making an alliance strong as well as worthwhile are:
1) Pilots getting into ships and engaging in the first place. The number of alliances that I've been in where you call for people to X up when hostiles arrive where all of a sudden 80% of the players are (afk), or just silent.... /sigh - I hated being in those...
2) PvP Experience, and without stating anymore about this being as obvious as this is, this doesn't happen without point 1..
So, regardless of other circumstances, Hydra fielded the pilots, and they held the field - Hats off to them.

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Minigin
Ganja Labs
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Posted - 2007.06.13 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Duff Man Grats on the Win Minigin!
As for you bloody smacktards in here talking about bigger numbers blah blah blah. If you attack someone that can bring 3 x more active pilots into a battle than you, be prepared to deal with it. This crap about (Oh whine, they have to field double numbers to get even kills) is nonsense.
Two of the most important factors that contribute to making an alliance strong as well as worthwhile are:
1) Pilots getting into ships and engaging in the first place. The number of alliances that I've been in where you call for people to X up when hostiles arrive where all of a sudden 80% of the players are (afk), or just silent.... /sigh - I hated being in those...
2) PvP Experience, and without stating anymore about this being as obvious as this is, this doesn't happen without point 1..
So, regardless of other circumstances, Hydra fielded the pilots, and they held the field - Hats off to them.

thanks for the kind words and long time no see again ;p. how have you been????
MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.13 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
This is a bit rich comming from a tri member. You guys are worse than pure! And that says a hell of a lot about your blobing. You guys could'nt have a fair fight even if it bit you in the ars.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.13 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 13/06/2007 15:23:42
Shame I missed this one. Hats off to all who fought. From what my boys are telling me it was fun. I have to agree with some people in this post, if you go to an Alliances homeland you need to be prepared to deal with whatever they throw at you. Sometimes its not about the blob. Its about making a statement that if you trespass into their space you will get dealt with by all means neccessary, and with all tools at their disposal.
You want even numbers then schedule a damn duel or something. Otherwise quit your cryin.
Just my 2 cents. GF fellas!
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touchvill
Citadel of dark arts Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Herra B
Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
This is a bit rich comming from a tri member. You guys are worse than pure! And that says a hell of a lot about your blobing. You guys could'nt have a fair fight even if it bit you in the ars.
Such love from you guys only a few weeks after we killed 6 dreadnaughts and 3 carriers free of charge for you?
It wouldn't have anything to do to you guys losing a friendly carrier to us and all it's support would it?
Ungrateful bunch of nogood smacktalking brats, we should have let you rot that day.
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MaxSkywalker
x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:44:00 -
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I simply dont get people that have to use twice the amount of pilots that your opponent has in a skirmish battle.. Are people really taking this game so serious that they would rather scare the enemy away than having a very good fight?
Ships can be replaced, a good battle can't imho!
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: MaxSkywalker I simply dont get people that have to use twice the amount of pilots that your opponent has in a skirmish battle.. Are people really taking this game so serious that they would rather scare the enemy away than having a very good fight?
Ships can be replaced, a good battle can't imho!
Could'nt have put it better myself.
Why some people play eve like Risk is beyond my comprehencion.
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Duff Man
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.14 06:33:00 -
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I've been well Mini - though not getting as much EvE time in as i'd like these days .
Catch you in game some time mate.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.14 17:42:00 -
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Basilisks will win eve!
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