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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 00:50:00 -
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not a major battle but a fun one...
This morning Hydra Intel channels began to report an incoming Blind Beaver/Eternal rising/ESA gang of about 25 heading up the p3 pipe towards c-f.
At the time, Hydra had a small gang of about 10 roaming cruisers and battle cruisers. Realising we where no match for such a huge force we retreated to c-f and put out the call for the alliance members to get safe and join the gang.
By this time the hostile fleet had moved 1 jump out from us. However by now we had 45 members in gang. We where still cautious however as we realised that they still had the potential to win the day as they had come rolling pretty heavy. They also had 2 logistics cruisers with them.
The hostile fleet split into two squads. Their interceptors and force recons moved to the c-f station and harassed members trying to dock and undock, while the heavy hitters remained on the gate ready to jump into c-f.
It was at this stage that we made our move. We bubbled the gate and warped in. The battle raged for what seemed to be an eternityà however battle logs indicate it was more like 20 mins ;p. We attempted to primary the logistics cruisers but they proved extremely slippery >_>.
Primaries where calledà hostiles went downà friendlies went downà people where warping in and out like crazy. Lag was present but not horribleà
In the end Hydra held the fieldà there where however heavy losses on both sides.
Hydra fielded 45ish ships. Losses on the KB a few hours after the engagement show 18 losses. Mix of T1 cruisers BCÆs and BSÆs
Hostile gang fielded 25ish ships and lost 19. Mix of t2 frigs, recons and a few heavier ships.
Thanks to Blind Beavers, ESA and Eternal rising on a great fight. YouÆve proved yourselves great opponents. It was a lot of fun.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin They also had 2 logistics cruisers with them.
Fear the Basilisk!!!!!
Decent battle report, nice one.
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Evelgrivion
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.10 01:04:00 -
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Sounds like the best kind of EVE fight 
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Danari
Amarr Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 01:11:00 -
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Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.10 01:20:00 -
[5]
Have to sign this, was a brilliant fight.
I had a touch of lag at the start but nothing that made any difference.
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WarFireV
Gallente Lockheed Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.10 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
The economy of mass is a good tactic to use. If someone was invading would you tell only 20 of your ships to fight them off or would you call in the 50 you have ready to fight. Please you would do the same thing in there position. 
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Ugluuk
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.10 01:45:00 -
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I dont like the ish numbers so here are the accurate stats taken from Hydra killboard:
Hydra fielded 49 ships..
1 Carrier 9 Bs 15 BC 14 cruiser class 10 frigate class
In that gang these were ecm:
5 celestis 4 blackbird 1 scorpion 1 rook
Beavers/friends had 27 ships:
4 Bs 4 Bc 6 cruiser class ships 13 frigate class ships
1 falcon as ecm
Losses on Hydra side:
4bs 4bc 9 cruiser 3 frigs ___________ = 20 losses
Losses on BB side
1 bs 3 bc 3 cruiser 12 frigates ___________ = 19 losses
http://privateer.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Ugluuk |

Father Weebles
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 01:51:00 -
[8]
thats a lot of ecm 
"You leave anything for us?" "Just bodies." |

Aramark
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.06.10 01:59:00 -
[9]
sounds like fun.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
eh? was Danari character sold o_O ?
- Gob
Now with 20% extra emo! |
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Danari
Amarr Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 02:22:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
eh? was Danari character sold o_O ?
- Gob
<3 Come to the dark side, it'll set you free.
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Altar Mei
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.06.10 02:23:00 -
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Edited by: Altar Mei on 10/06/2007 02:21:53 Nice to read about these type of engagements. You know what the best part of this was? No POS. 
Originally by: CCP Arkanon We're a company of professionals, not some LAN party gone bad.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
tbh... it sounds like your a tad bitter... however your stance on this is very hypocritcal if i was to take you seriously.
was it not triumverate that called in25 capital class ships to destroy 2 dreadnoughts in p3? so is it then fair to say tri will not engage in a capital battle with hydra unless they have 4 times the number of caps?
please dont misunderstand me... i dont think this is at all true but it shows that your stance on this lacks logic.
Also i would point out that "even" fights are extreamly hard to find... even even by numbers shiptypes and fittings make a differeance... T1 will never = T2, so for an alliance that cant all fly out in well fitted t2 ships numbers will always be needed. People have begun to appreciate this... everyone but you apparently.
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Ackaroth
Gallente Plundering Penguins
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Posted - 2007.06.10 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin
Also i would point out that "even" fights are extreamly hard to find... even even by numbers shiptypes and fittings make a differeance... T1 will never = T2, so for an alliance that cant all fly out in well fitted t2 ships numbers will always be needed. People have begun to appreciate this... everyone but you apparently.
Very good way to look at it. __________________________________________________
Arg - I had a cool green mod sig, but then I think the mods deleted the end of it or something so it just said [Limegreen]... |

Arric Rohr
The Knights Templar Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ugluuk I dont like the ish numbers so here are the accurate stats taken from Hydra killboard:
Hydra fielded 49 ships..
1 Carrier 9 Bs 15 BC 14 cruiser class 10 frigate class
In that gang these were ecm:
5 celestis 4 blackbird 1 scorpion 1 rook
Beavers/friends had 27 ships:
4 Bs 4 Bc 6 cruiser class ships 13 frigate class ships
1 falcon as ecm
Losses on Hydra side:
4bs 4bc 9 cruiser 3 frigs ___________ = 20 losses
Losses on BB side
1 bs 3 bc 3 cruiser 12 frigates ___________ = 19 losses
Ah, I guess I didn't know some definitions. Now I do, thanks.
Eos is a BC. Curse, Rook, Deimos, Guardian, and Rapier are cruisers. Assorted AF's and Interceptors are actually frigates.
So when you kill a Thorax it's a cruiser, and when you lose a Deimos it's also a cruiser. Much clearer now.
:) AR
*Where do I get one of those cool signatures?* |

Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.10 03:22:00 -
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Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
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VoYvod
Amarr Murder-Death-Kill Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 04:26:00 -
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Edited by: VoYvod on 10/06/2007 04:25:46
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
tbh... it sounds like your a tad bitter... however your stance on this is very hypocritcal if i was to take you seriously.
was it not triumverate that called in25 capital class ships to destroy 2 dreadnoughts in p3? so is it then fair to say tri will not engage in a capital battle with hydra unless they have 4 times the number of caps?
please dont misunderstand me... i dont think this is at all true but it shows that your stance on this lacks logic.
1st off lets think real hard why there were so many tri cap ships ... oh thats right tri was defending a pos .. so that amount of capital ships for that kind of op isnt really that ridiculous .. plus you 4got to mention the support fleet that hydra/friends and what tri had , and there were more than 2 dreads to shoot at 
so my question to you is , where is your logic?
You [/b]seem bitter 
edit: spelling
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mr bighelmet
EnTech Pax Familia
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Posted - 2007.06.10 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Arric Rohr
Originally by: Ugluuk I dont like the ish numbers so here are the accurate stats taken from Hydra killboard:
Hydra fielded 49 ships..
1 Carrier 9 Bs 15 BC 14 cruiser class 10 frigate class
In that gang these were ecm:
5 celestis 4 blackbird 1 scorpion 1 rook
Beavers/friends had 27 ships:
4 Bs 4 Bc 6 cruiser class ships 13 frigate class ships
1 falcon as ecm
Losses on Hydra side:
4bs 4bc 9 cruiser 3 frigs ___________ = 20 losses
Losses on BB side
1 bs 3 bc 3 cruiser 12 frigates ___________ = 19 losses
Ah, I guess I didn't know some definitions. Now I do, thanks.
Eos is a BC. Curse, Rook, Deimos, Guardian, and Rapier are cruisers. Assorted AF's and Interceptors are actually frigates.
So when you kill a Thorax it's a cruiser, and when you lose a Deimos it's also a cruiser. Much clearer now.
:) AR
He just call ship size, he listed the rook from your side as cruiser, probabyl did the list by size to save time.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 04:43:00 -
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Edited by: Minigin on 10/06/2007 04:47:01
Originally by: VoYvod Edited by: VoYvod on 10/06/2007 04:25:46
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
tbh... it sounds like your a tad bitter... however your stance on this is very hypocritcal if i was to take you seriously.
was it not triumverate that called in25 capital class ships to destroy 2 dreadnoughts in p3? so is it then fair to say tri will not engage in a capital battle with hydra unless they have 4 times the number of caps?
please dont misunderstand me... i dont think this is at all true but it shows that your stance on this lacks logic.
1st off lets think real hard why there were so many tri cap ships ... oh thats right tri was defending a pos .. so that amount of capital ships for that kind of op isnt really that ridiculous .. plus you 4got to mention the support fleet that hydra/friends and what tri had , and there were more than 2 dreads to shoot at 
so my question to you is , where is your logic?[/b][/b]
You seem bitter 
edit: spelling
1) yes eventualy there where more dreads to shoot at... but inital attack was made by two... and you had no way of knowing aobut the others
2) "now lets think real hard about this... oh thats right... hydra was deffending its home system... thats why they had so many ships..."
3) so my question to you is... when will you realise you are making no sense and shutup?
edit: and no not bitter... just responding to your earlier comment...
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Marvn Riley
Amarr Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.10 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin Thanks to Blind Beavers, ESA and Eternal rising on a great fight. YouÆve proved yourselves great opponents. It was a lot of fun.
It was quite fun. One does not go kick a hornets nest, and not expect to get stung. Thanks for bringing the topper to one of the longest nights of EvE I've ever had.
CCP: Fix Overview bugs pls. I lived too long due to having to relog to fix correct mine :(
Marvn
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Danari
Amarr Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 07:21:00 -
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Bring whatever numbers you want, that wasn't the point. The point was you can always count on Hydra to underperform, and your post illustrates this case in point perfectly. If I were in an engagement and my double numbers managed to just break even, yeah, the last thing I'd do would be to publicize it. Jeez.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 08:01:00 -
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Originally by: Danari Bring whatever numbers you want, that wasn't the point. The point was you can always count on Hydra to underperform, and your post illustrates this case in point perfectly. If I were in an engagement and my double numbers managed to just break even, yeah, the last thing I'd do would be to publicize it. Jeez.
look here you! i posted this because it was alot of fun... and this is a game! your post reflects your attitude... you have to be awesome at a game to have fun with it...
also about numbers... here is somthing to think about... i would engage 3 T1 frigs in my ishkur any day... why?
Just because you are outnumbered... it doesnt mean you will be outgunned.
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Chirinako
Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.10 08:35:00 -
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Edited by: Chirinako on 10/06/2007 08:41:21 Smaller fights are always the best.
Originally by: Minigin Edited by: Minigin on 10/06/2007 04:47:01
Originally by: VoYvod Edited by: VoYvod on 10/06/2007 04:25:46
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
tbh... it sounds like your a tad bitter... however your stance on this is very hypocritcal if i was to take you seriously.
was it not triumverate that called in25 capital class ships to destroy 2 dreadnoughts in p3? so is it then fair to say tri will not engage in a capital battle with hydra unless they have 4 times the number of caps?
please dont misunderstand me... i dont think this is at all true but it shows that your stance on this lacks logic.
1st off lets think real hard why there were so many tri cap ships ... oh thats right tri was defending a pos .. so that amount of capital ships for that kind of op isnt really that ridiculous .. plus you 4got to mention the support fleet that hydra/friends and what tri had , and there were more than 2 dreads to shoot at 
so my question to you is , where is your logic?[/b]
You seem bitter 
edit: spelling
1) yes eventualy there where more dreads to shoot at... but inital attack was made by two... and you had no way of knowing aobut the others
2) "now lets think real hard about this... oh thats right... hydra was deffending its home system... thats why they had so many ships..."
3) so my question to you is... when will you realise you are making no sense and shutup?
edit: and no not bitter... just responding to your earlier comment...
If Tri had 25 dreads there do you expect them to just send out 2? when will you realise you are making no sense[/b]?
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Kai page
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 08:56:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Danari Bring whatever numbers you want, that wasn't the point. The point was you can always count on Hydra to underperform, and your post illustrates this case in point perfectly. If I were in an engagement and my double numbers managed to just break even, yeah, the last thing I'd do would be to publicize it. Jeez.
look here you! i posted this because it was alot of fun... and this is a game! your post reflects your attitude... you have to be awesome at a game to have fun with it...
also about numbers... here is somthing to think about... i would engage 3 T1 frigs in my ishkur any day... why?
Just because you are outnumbered... it doesnt mean you will be outgunned.
Sounds like a good fight mate, hydra always bring the good figths when i've been down to c-f. stop the smack and respect it for what it is a bit of fun.
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yarrmarr
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.10 09:11:00 -
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Guys, please let the smackin commence on the battlefield or at least do it in the thread called 'my e-peen is biggah than yourzorrrs' ;)
It was a fun fight, we were a bit bored there were no hydra peeps to be seen on our 13 hop route from p3 to hydra homesystem, but that was compensated by the endless (it seemed that way at least ) stream of red stars warping in on top of us once we jumped into c-f.
I had the impression Hydra fielded two carriers though, not one. One on the battlefield itself and one assigning fighters from a pos
so.. once again... fun fight, now can we have dockingrights please? our interceptors were feeling a bit left out when they knocked on your outpost :(
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Elliott Manchild
omen.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 10/06/2007 09:21:36
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
tbh... it sounds like your a tad bitter... however your stance on this is very hypocritcal if i was to take you seriously.
was it not triumverate that called in25 capital class ships to destroy 2 dreadnoughts in p3? so is it then fair to say tri will not engage in a capital battle with hydra unless they have 4 times the number of caps?
please dont misunderstand me... i dont think this is at all true but it shows that your stance on this lacks logic.
Also i would point out that "even" fights are extreamly hard to find... even even by numbers shiptypes and fittings make a differeance... T1 will never = T2, so for an alliance that cant all fly out in well fitted t2 ships numbers will always be needed. People have begun to appreciate this... everyone but you apparently.
We scanned one of your guys revelation and saw he had like 8 cargo expanded fitted and decided we needed lots of caps. And you had more than tripple the size of our support gang your guys just didn't dare warp in.
Your sig is too big, maximum size is 24000 bytes. Email us at [email protected] if you have any questions. - Devil Leave me be you evil mods =[ |

Indiano Arko
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.10 09:53:00 -
[27]
Missed it unfortunely, but sounds like a good fight.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Chirinako
If Tri had 25 dreads there do you expect them to just send out 2? when will you realise you are making no sense?
i think thats half my point... if we had the numbers why wouldnt we use them. I have no problem with the number of caps tri brought nor have i ever...(when i said it last time it was to illustrate my point)
Originally by: Kai page
Sounds like a good fight mate, hydra always bring the good figths when i've been down to c-f. stop the smack and respect it for what it is a bit of fun.
agreed. it was alot of fun and thats whats important.
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JMcClane
Gallente Righteous Choirboys Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.10 10:45:00 -
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I hope you'll let me put my 5 cents in.
First off, thanks to Hydra for a nice fight. Numbers, skills, modules, whatever set aside, the battlefield was even. We had a nice long enduring fight, Hydra took the field, sure enough, but at the end of the day, we tossed around quite a few of you, had some fun, and that's what it's all about... tossing around some Hydra's that is :)
Since Minigin felt that this smaller engagement needed to go on the forums, I'd like to do a little writeup of another trip to C-FP we had... 2 days prior to this one. It was approx. the same numbers, duration and size of engagement, so let's put it all out on the table shall we. Details can be found on our killboard for those who want to go into details.
Basically scenario was the same... bla bla bla... to C-FP70.... bla bla bla Hydra forming up defense... bla bla bla, us jumping into the mess outnumbered, but perhaps not outgunned. We had a nice long 10 minute fight. Kudos!
Number break down (Including specific ship types)
Hydra (48 total): 5 Elite Frigates 15 Cruisers 2 Elite Cruisers 10 Battlecruisers 9 Battleships 3 Frigates, 1 Carrier, 3 Elite Battlecruisers
Blind Beavers side (17 total): 6 battlecruisers 1 Elite Frigate 1 Elite Destroyer (also known as Interdictor) 4 Elite Cruisers 1 Elite Battlecruiser 2 Battleships 1 Cruiser 1 Corporation (Also known as Guristas, guess someone got some fire from a gate rat or whatever) :)
Losses Hydra (26 ships, 0 pod): 3 Elite Frigates 12 Cruisers 1 Elite Cruiser 6 Battlecruisers 2 Battleships 2 Frigates
Losses Blind Beavers (5 ships, 1 pod): 3 Battlecruisers 1 Elite Frigate 1 Elite Destroyer 1 Capsule
Again Hydra held the field in the end as several of their pilot warped straight back into a new ship when they were downed. Some of them even lost 2 ships in the engagement.
Why do I post all this, you may ask... well... I just figured everyone else should get a more clear picture on how a regular battle vs. Hydra goes down. It really is a shame not to give ppl a clear picture. Your killboard did show this picture until you took down the campaign!
See you in C-FP for more fights... Your strength is numbers, ours is modules and skills i guess. Sooner or later, we will bring enough to take you on even in full numbers. In other words... Hydra, you're running out of members! :)
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Reix
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 10:46:00 -
[30]
Some of you guys take this **** awfully seriously but if that's what's fun for you then right on.
Thanks to everyone for actually fighting. I was expecting hours of chest beating and rumors without much actual fighting. Thanks for giving me a reason to put my BS to use. She went down like a drunken prom queen but it was worth it for the fun fight. Good fight to everyone involved. |
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M1NeR
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:12:00 -
[31]
Having twice the numbers (and even a carrier!!) yet receiving such losses... I wouldn't be righting about such crappy results here if I was you hydras. -------
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EFF ONEF1
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:22:00 -
[32]
Originally by: JMcClane I hope you'll let me put my 5 cents in.
First off, thanks to Hydra for a nice fight. Numbers, skills, modules, whatever set aside, the battlefield was even. We had a nice long enduring fight, Hydra took the field, sure enough, but at the end of the day, we tossed around quite a few of you, had some fun, and that's what it's all about... tossing around some Hydra's that is :)
Since Minigin felt that this smaller engagement needed to go on the forums, I'd like to do a little writeup of another trip to C-FP we had... 2 days prior to this one. It was approx. the same numbers, duration and size of engagement, so let's put it all out on the table shall we. Details can be found on our killboard for those who want to go into details.
Basically scenario was the same... bla bla bla... to C-FP70.... bla bla bla Hydra forming up defense... bla bla bla, us jumping into the mess outnumbered, but perhaps not outgunned. We had a nice long 10 minute fight. Kudos!
Number break down (Including specific ship types)
Hydra (48 total): 5 Elite Frigates 15 Cruisers 2 Elite Cruisers 10 Battlecruisers 9 Battleships 3 Frigates, 1 Carrier, 3 Elite Battlecruisers
Blind Beavers side (17 total): 6 battlecruisers 1 Elite Frigate 1 Elite Destroyer (also known as Interdictor) 4 Elite Cruisers 1 Elite Battlecruiser 2 Battleships 1 Cruiser 1 Corporation (Also known as Guristas, guess someone got some fire from a gate rat or whatever) :)
Losses Hydra (26 ships, 0 pod): 3 Elite Frigates 12 Cruisers 1 Elite Cruiser 6 Battlecruisers 2 Battleships 2 Frigates
Losses Blind Beavers (5 ships, 1 pod): 3 Battlecruisers 1 Elite Frigate 1 Elite Destroyer 1 Capsule
Again Hydra held the field in the end as several of their pilot warped straight back into a new ship when they were downed. Some of them even lost 2 ships in the engagement.
Why do I post all this, you may ask... well... I just figured everyone else should get a more clear picture on how a regular battle vs. Hydra goes down. It really is a shame not to give ppl a clear picture. Your killboard did show this picture until you took down the campaign!
See you in C-FP for more fights... Your strength is numbers, ours is modules and skills i guess. Sooner or later, we will bring enough to take you on even in full numbers. In other words... Hydra, you're running out of members! :)
Thats pretty telling right there.
Lots of T2 vs even more T1.
But in the end all that matters is how much fun you ad and who held the field.
But i honestly cant see hydra sustaining those losses over and extended period. ----------------------------------------------- I have been known to take shuttles to various parts of 0.0
Why?
Don't really know.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:37:00 -
[33]
what the hell is wrong with so many of you!!!!!!!! this was a fun battle... this is in no way the propaganda post that you are making it out to be... it does not need contextualisation...
and frankly mcclane ide point out if we where to truley contextualise, your loss of a carrier would have to give us more of an idea on how things work in c-f
i am pretty disapointed that so many people lacked the maturity to see that this was in no way a smack/flame/propaganda thread but it has been dragged down that path, my presence in a thread... while usualy is followed by smack and flames doesnt have to be.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:39:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
Same here
Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p ------
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:45:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
Same here
Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p
yes well im trying my best here >_>
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Preator Rushview
The Knights Templar Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:46:00 -
[36]
Wish I could've been there, I do love a good pewpew.
Sounds like a nice fight, even better than the scrap in C-F 2 days before.
'Grats to both sides.
P
Originally by: Minigin go troll a forum like i do
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:52:00 -
[37]
ahhhh Hydra, lovely, sounds like u had fun.
We will see you in space and hope for the same.
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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touchvill
Citadel of dark arts Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.10 11:54:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Minigin what the hell is wrong with so many of you!!!!!!!! this was a fun battle... this is in no way the propaganda post that you are making it out to be... it does not need contextualisation...
and frankly mcclane ide point out if we where to truley contextualise, your loss of a carrier would have to give us more of an idea on how things work in c-f
i am pretty disapointed that so many people lacked the maturity to see that this was in no way a smack/flame/propaganda thread but it has been dragged down that path, my presence in a thread... while usualy is followed by smack and flames doesnt have to be.
The first mistake was posting it on the eve forums.
It's all smack and propoganda on the eve forums. Which is why so many probably so it as such.
Fun is good though. Maybe you should put in big lettering in the op that it's in the name of fun and isn't a bragging thread. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

Marvn Riley
Amarr Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:02:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
Same here
Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p
yes well im trying my best here >_>
If the ones who lost ships are smiling in the end; that is enough. Screw numerics, screw statistics, to hell with all that. Can't be bothered with it.
I'm too busy smiling.
Marvn
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Minigin
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Marvn Riley
Originally by: Minigin
Originally by: Splagada
Originally by: Crazy Tasty Wish I could have been there, logged on right after, everyone said it was a awesome fight.
Same here
Nice report!!! glad it's civil too lol :p
yes well im trying my best here >_>
If the ones who lost ships are smiling in the end; that is enough. Screw numerics, screw statistics, to hell with all that. Can't be bothered with it.
I'm too busy smiling.
Marvn
o7 it is an honour to fight people with such a great attitude. its that "screw it we are going in" attitude that gets these good fights. EVE would be a better place if more people where like you.
o7o7o7
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Elfaen Ethenwe
Eternal Rising EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.06.10 12:44:00 -
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well done for fighting. As you are proberbly aware now, we'll be around for a while. so you'll have plenty of opporunity to prove yourselves over the comming weeks, sadly i couldnt make yesterday. I was taunting goons in london.
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Scordaf
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:08:00 -
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Quote: Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
I seem to recall a 30 odd man Hydra fleet flying around near your space earlier in the day, only to get turned back by... What was it... 50 or so of your ships. Perhaps you were planning to only engage with half your fleet? The rest were only there to spectate perhaps?
And strangely enough, your only concept of 'even' is numeric. Lets not talk about how the average 'even' fight involves TRI in BS/T2 versus us in T1. 0.o
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Whalesaver
mega mining corporation Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 13:16:00 -
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Nice write up Minigin (Whalesaver is still recovering from sensible Mini COAD post shock )
It was a good fun fight. To those posters insistent on denigrating us, your actions reflect poorly on yourselves.
We don't pretend we are an elite pvp alliance, we do however enjoy the fight. -----------------------
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lethario desrtuction
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.10 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: lethario desrtuction on 10/06/2007 14:52:08 Just want to add Thank you for the fun.Main point of the battle was no one logged off like most fights in eve these days.I was one of the first to lose my ship and even after the battle was over I was still smiling. 35 jumps away looking at a pod feeling good.o7 to all and thanks for a fun day in eve!
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:08:00 -
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From my point ... ... its fights like these that make eve worth playing. ... its not about who got the bigger and better capital ship fleets. ... its not about who can sit in a 100 man gang for hours speculating how to get more. ... its not about shoting pos's or frapsing your self orbiting a titan. ... its about risking what you got and go out with a bang if needed.
Up yours to both of the bandwagons who seem to be playing eve like Risk. We're having a blast up here while you sit in your uber blobs squeezing kittens.
Tri, hands off, hydra is ours... or do you want to do something about it? 
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Karodnotos
Caldari Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: JMcClane
See you in C-FP for more fights... Your strength is numbers, ours is modules and skills i guess. Sooner or later, we will bring enough to take you on even in full numbers. In other words... Hydra, you're running out of members! :)
I hope our skills will increase just like your numbers, so the fun fights continue  Doesnt look like we are running out of members atm
Oh yeah, one of the best fights i had in EVE so far. Not too many participants (=few lag) not too few. No POS, no hours of waiting, just fighting.
Thanks for the fight everyone!
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Tarock Sharn
Caldari Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 15:46:00 -
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Nice fight,
Hydra and BB stood our ground as people had said. Both sides fort well and deserve respect for their actions and there was no smack talk. BB with some buddies came to CF knowing they would be out numbered but they still came and no one can take that from them. They had T2 vs out large amount of T1. From where I was over all it seemed an even fight and the balance for a long time could have gone either way, in the end our numbers proved too much and BB/SA left the field.
I thank you for coming.
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Weka Dart
Caldari Band of Sisters
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Posted - 2007.06.10 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: Weka Dart on 10/06/2007 16:28:57 The NEW northern carebears better watch out.
Triumvirate will be the new BOB of the north.
I don't think they are as nice as BOB either, so be afraid.
Hope Darknessss can keep a firm hand on all his pilots, for my money it will be a hard job, when you assemble that many pirate / killers in one place, you better keep them busy killing or they will start shooting blues 
As can be seen in this thread, already there may be signs of the 'pirate smack personae' shining through.
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Darth Kenzie
Amarr Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.10 19:28:00 -
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Yea it was a great fight and I hope we can have more of them (already bought a new BS and BC to replace the two I lost, gotta love insurable ships).
Minigin nice post, but stop fighting with the haters no real point.
'til we meet again.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.10 19:30:00 -
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If Hydra beat you, you are seriously doing something wrong!
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The Rincewind
Reign in Blood Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
That counts for TV too.........
If they just had 19 to engage hydra... it was on their own risk.
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Duff Man
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.13 03:32:00 -
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Grats on the Win Minigin!
As for you bloody smacktards in here talking about bigger numbers blah blah blah. If you attack someone that can bring 3 x more active pilots into a battle than you, be prepared to deal with it. This crap about (Oh whine, they have to field double numbers to get even kills) is nonsense.
Two of the most important factors that contribute to making an alliance strong as well as worthwhile are:
1) Pilots getting into ships and engaging in the first place. The number of alliances that I've been in where you call for people to X up when hostiles arrive where all of a sudden 80% of the players are (afk), or just silent.... /sigh - I hated being in those...
2) PvP Experience, and without stating anymore about this being as obvious as this is, this doesn't happen without point 1..
So, regardless of other circumstances, Hydra fielded the pilots, and they held the field - Hats off to them.

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Minigin
Ganja Labs
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Posted - 2007.06.13 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: Duff Man Grats on the Win Minigin!
As for you bloody smacktards in here talking about bigger numbers blah blah blah. If you attack someone that can bring 3 x more active pilots into a battle than you, be prepared to deal with it. This crap about (Oh whine, they have to field double numbers to get even kills) is nonsense.
Two of the most important factors that contribute to making an alliance strong as well as worthwhile are:
1) Pilots getting into ships and engaging in the first place. The number of alliances that I've been in where you call for people to X up when hostiles arrive where all of a sudden 80% of the players are (afk), or just silent.... /sigh - I hated being in those...
2) PvP Experience, and without stating anymore about this being as obvious as this is, this doesn't happen without point 1..
So, regardless of other circumstances, Hydra fielded the pilots, and they held the field - Hats off to them.

thanks for the kind words and long time no see again ;p. how have you been????
MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.13 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
This is a bit rich comming from a tri member. You guys are worse than pure! And that says a hell of a lot about your blobing. You guys could'nt have a fair fight even if it bit you in the ars.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.06.13 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 13/06/2007 15:23:42
Shame I missed this one. Hats off to all who fought. From what my boys are telling me it was fun. I have to agree with some people in this post, if you go to an Alliances homeland you need to be prepared to deal with whatever they throw at you. Sometimes its not about the blob. Its about making a statement that if you trespass into their space you will get dealt with by all means neccessary, and with all tools at their disposal.
You want even numbers then schedule a damn duel or something. Otherwise quit your cryin.
Just my 2 cents. GF fellas!
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touchvill
Citadel of dark arts Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Herra B
Originally by: Danari Typical hydra fight, approximately double numbers needed to have approximately even kills. In an even fight they rarely kill anything at all.
This is a bit rich comming from a tri member. You guys are worse than pure! And that says a hell of a lot about your blobing. You guys could'nt have a fair fight even if it bit you in the ars.
Such love from you guys only a few weeks after we killed 6 dreadnaughts and 3 carriers free of charge for you?
It wouldn't have anything to do to you guys losing a friendly carrier to us and all it's support would it?
Ungrateful bunch of nogood smacktalking brats, we should have let you rot that day.
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MaxSkywalker
x13 Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:44:00 -
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I simply dont get people that have to use twice the amount of pilots that your opponent has in a skirmish battle.. Are people really taking this game so serious that they would rather scare the enemy away than having a very good fight?
Ships can be replaced, a good battle can't imho!
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Herra B
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: MaxSkywalker I simply dont get people that have to use twice the amount of pilots that your opponent has in a skirmish battle.. Are people really taking this game so serious that they would rather scare the enemy away than having a very good fight?
Ships can be replaced, a good battle can't imho!
Could'nt have put it better myself.
Why some people play eve like Risk is beyond my comprehencion.
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Duff Man
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.14 06:33:00 -
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I've been well Mini - though not getting as much EvE time in as i'd like these days .
Catch you in game some time mate.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.14 17:42:00 -
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Basilisks will win eve!
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Freaky Bare
Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.14 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 13/06/2007 15:23:42
Shame I missed this one. Hats off to all who fought. From what my boys are telling me it was fun. I have to agree with some people in this post, if you go to an Alliances homeland you need to be prepared to deal with whatever they throw at you. Sometimes its not about the blob. Its about making a statement that if you trespass into their space you will get dealt with by all means neccessary, and with all tools at their disposal.
You want even numbers then schedule a damn duel or something. Otherwise quit your cryin.
Just my 2 cents. GF fellas!
This is exactly right.
Minigin picked this fight because it was a fairly even outcome. He could have picked the battle brought up in here that we lost, but that would have been kinda dumb. He could have brought up a fight in which we destroyed the enemy. He picked this one so it would be clear he was not giving a back-handed compliment. We have been GREATLY enjoying the PVP opportunities we have had lately. We thank you. THAT was his point; naive as it may have been.
ON the numbers vs KB stats I just think people need to make up there minds. I fly Cyclones into PVP with mostly T1 fittings. Should I hide in station until I can kit out a Vagabond or should I undock and fight? I'd rather engage than back down - I don't care about the odds. (Incidentally one of the reasons I don't try to FC)
To stand a chance in that fight requires numbers. Most seem to get that, but for some reason for others this is a foreign concept. We have a fair number of experienced PVPers and long-time pilots, but we have even more pilots still learning to fight. We get better every day, and every fight helps this.
Last thread I stated I had no respect for BB because they accused us of hiding and I said they did the same. Since that time we have had numerous fights in which both sides chose to engage. Some wins and some losses on both ends, and of course some POS sitting when outnumbered 10:1. You have earned my respect and I look forward to many more fights.
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Muad' Dib
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.15 20:57:00 -
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My Malediction barely made it out with 36% struct. Had about 5 or more warp out/in but in the last ones it seemed like i was treated as the darling of EW. Celestis + Rook + Blackbird + Rokh + fighters + light drones T2 + whatever on me. C'mon ... I barely have 28km locking range, how low do you think you can dampen me ? :P
Was great fun, but like Ug mentioned you forgot some facts, many of them mentioned by himself.
PS: My ceptor wasn't faction fitted if that is the reason why i had so many guys on me every time i warped back in. :)
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Muad' Dib
Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers
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Posted - 2007.06.15 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Freaky Bare
Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 13/06/2007 15:23:42
Shame I missed this one. Hats off to all who fought. From what my boys are telling me it was fun. I have to agree with some people in this post, if you go to an Alliances homeland you need to be prepared to deal with whatever they throw at you. Sometimes its not about the blob. Its about making a statement that if you trespass into their space you will get dealt with by all means neccessary, and with all tools at their disposal.
You want even numbers then schedule a damn duel or something. Otherwise quit your cryin.
Just my 2 cents. GF fellas!
This is exactly right.
Minigin picked this fight because it was a fairly even outcome. He could have picked the battle brought up in here that we lost, but that would have been kinda dumb. He could have brought up a fight in which we destroyed the enemy. He picked this one so it would be clear he was not giving a back-handed compliment. We have been GREATLY enjoying the PVP opportunities we have had lately. We thank you. THAT was his point; naive as it may have been.
ON the numbers vs KB stats I just think people need to make up there minds. I fly Cyclones into PVP with mostly T1 fittings. Should I hide in station until I can kit out a Vagabond or should I undock and fight? I'd rather engage than back down - I don't care about the odds. (Incidentally one of the reasons I don't try to FC)
To stand a chance in that fight requires numbers. Most seem to get that, but for some reason for others this is a foreign concept. We have a fair number of experienced PVPers and long-time pilots, but we have even more pilots still learning to fight. We get better every day, and every fight helps this.
Last thread I stated I had no respect for BB because they accused us of hiding and I said they did the same. Since that time we have had numerous fights in which both sides chose to engage. Some wins and some losses on both ends, and of course some POS sitting when outnumbered 10:1. You have earned my respect and I look forward to many more fights.
Dude, don't get me wrong but in Hakonen about 1 week ago i found a gang of 4 Hydra on a station, Scorpion + BB + Drake + Osprey. I attacked head on in my Hurricane only to see them dock or scatter. I know the cane looks cool and all that but it is hardly a killer versus such a gang. :) I won't even mention the fact that I sometimes felt perfectly secure with 3-4 of your guys in local while I was the only one from my alliance in local. :)
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.15 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Minigin what the hell is wrong with so many of you!!!!!!!! this was a fun battle... this is in no way the propaganda post that you are making it out to be... it does not need contextualisation...
The ultimate problem with PvP in any game, unfortunately. The only measure some of these fools take seriously is how far down their own throats they can slide their epeen
Sounds like a helluva dustup, though. Much better than the run of the PvP mill.
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