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Mai'Shin	Posted - 2007.06.15 03:09:00 - [1] I don't know about everyone else, but I'm pretty happy about this change as it finally makes running missions in groups worth it. I know it's been promised for a while but it's always nice to see it in the patch notes. In any case, I've been trying to think of some awesome ship combos for some serious carnage in missions. I mean if you can run it with a mate you're more than likely getting 2x the speed improvement from it right? Could this be the end of needing billions in isk to pimp missions? A few solid minmatar combos for L4s would be as follows (as always, only IMO). 1) Maelstrom setup for long range gank, and minimal tank (hell you could probably get away with 1 XLSB and a t2 invuln). Backing this would be your Typhoon with torps, large autos and heavy drones or possibly sentries. The mael can fit plenty of light drones for frigs that get too close, and with any luck, nothing of larger size will be able to close. The phoon can fit one hell of a tank, absorbing a good chunk of damage. 2) Long-mid range phoon, arties, torps, sentries. Hurricane for long-mid range frig-bc stuff. Armour transfer stuff to top up the phoon as main tank. Just some ideas to throw out there. I probably just got a little excited by the patch notes.
Talkie Toaster Amarr Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2007.06.15 08:28:00 - [2] the abilty to share lp and so on is long long overdue, but i was a little dismayed to see that when you click "me and my gang complete the mission" you can only have 5 people in the gang get the bonus. even on large lvl 4 missions like WC or GE, its cool to have 5 or more people tagging along for a laugh. why 5? it makes no sence. what it will probably do though, if you can share corp standing boosts, is mean that new chars will be able to get to better agents much faster if they just gang with someone already doing lvl 4s.
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.06.15 08:37:00 - [3] It is good change. However, from patch notes I get impression that anyone in gang will get their share of LP and standings gains (without needing to shoot anyting in mission). For me it propably means, that I can gang my army of research alts and get them with R&D agents without having actually to run any missions while my main does what he usually does for isk - runs missions. Granted, not as fast as running those combat missions solo, but as research alts lack combat skills ... Well - beats afk hauling missions for sure :) Even with that small theoretical loophole I think it's good implemention. Those who want to get their R&D alts to R&D agents can do it in other ways too (like accepting combat missions and doing them with their combat mains) so that new option is not breaking anything I think.
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers	Posted - 2007.06.15 09:37:00 - [4] wait till you get someone smart enough to sell faction increases with a pirate corp your aching to mission for... do i hear 10m isk for Story line increases for standings or more? - :
Archo X Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.15 13:57:00 - [5] Eve's newest form of powerleveling. And the macro-ers are off to the races. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes Do not discuss moderation in your signature - Kreul Intentions Double nerf
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Hookers and Black Jack Flaming Hookers	Posted - 2007.06.15 21:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Archo X Eve's newest form of powerleveling. And the macro-ers are off to the races. sadly at lvl 4 missions your right. worse when it comes to story line missions. - :
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2007.06.16 00:54:00 - [7] I'd wager the storyline missions are either unavailable to a group (ie the button is greyed/unavailable) or it soon(tm) will be!
Mai'Shin	Posted - 2007.06.17 23:49:00 - [8] I'm just looking forward to the fact that it's actually WORTH it to mission with someone now.
Epoch	Posted - 2007.06.18 02:46:00 - [9] Edited by: Epoch on 18/06/2007 02:47:05 Edited by: Epoch on 18/06/2007 02:45:13 Originally by: Mai'Shin 2) Long-mid range phoon, arties, torps, sentries. with a mediocre tank that setup is next to impossible short of having multiple rcu's or pg rigs. Originally by: Mai'Shin I'm just looking forward to the fact that it's actually WORTH it to mission with someone now. agreed. should be fun. may see far more logistics ships flying about.
Mai'Shin	Posted - 2007.06.18 04:55:00 - [10] Edited by: Mai''Shin on 18/06/2007 05:00:31 Originally by: Epoch Edited by: Epoch on 18/06/2007 02:47:05 Edited by: Epoch on 18/06/2007 02:45:13 Originally by: Mai'Shin 2) Long-mid range phoon, arties, torps, sentries. with a mediocre tank that setup is next to impossible short of having multiple rcu's or pg rigs. Sorry, should have mentioned one of the arties is swapped out for drone link augmentor. Pretty much a requirement to get some use out of the sentries. Can shove a tracking link in too. CCC rigs a must for permatank (as well as L5 cap skills). Edit: Oh, and an RCU is required for this, but only 1.

Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.18 05:20:00 - [11] I haven't see any infor on the patch notes about sharing faction/corp standing, and hadn't the chance to test it on the test server. Someone can confirm or deny if the standing increase are shared?
Solomunio Kzenig Amarr Ordo Ministorum	Posted - 2007.06.18 09:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Carniflex It is good change. However, from patch notes I get impression that anyone in gang will get their share of LP and standings gains (without needing to shoot anyting in mission). For me it propably means, that I can gang my army of research alts and get them with R&D agents without having actually to run any missions while my main does what he usually does for isk - runs missions. Granted, not as fast as running those combat missions solo, but as research alts lack combat skills ... Well - beats afk hauling missions for sure :) Even with that small theoretical loophole I think it's good implemention. Those who want to get their R&D alts to R&D agents can do it in other ways too (like accepting combat missions and doing them with their combat mains) so that new option is not breaking anything I think. Hrmmm.....that's a good idea aalright, My mining/hauling ALT can get some decent standings now One Empire, One Emeperor, One People, Forever under Heaven. Amarr Aeternus.
Hamfast Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.18 18:38:00 - [13] Has anyone heard the range the gang members can be at and still share the LP? is it station, system...? None of us is as dumb as all of us...
Khel'tar Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.20 04:54:00 - [14] So anyone got any feedback on how this works? I can't log on til friday (due to RL), and am starving for detail! -- Achura, the best stats. Pity it had to be caldari. Gallente 4tw.
Rafein	Posted - 2007.06.20 07:56:00 - [15] It's beyond station. And important Storyline missions only share isk reward, not Faction gain
Nalar Marnith Minmatar Tetranex Consolidated	Posted - 2007.06.29 05:04:00 - [16] Using a phoon with tank setup and a cyclone. The cyclone is basically there to kill frigs and remote rep the phoon. Using this setup I've found missions to be a lot faster (mostly from looting/salvaging). The phoon can basically sit still and the 'clone webs and paints anything that gets too close so it dies easy.
Ezram Iena	Posted - 2007.06.29 08:57:00 - [17] Originally by: Venkul Mul I haven't see any infor on the patch notes about sharing faction/corp standing, and hadn't the chance to test it on the test server. Someone can confirm or deny if the standing increase are shared? Yup, it is shared, albeit extremely minimal. I did The Blockade, level 4, in a gang with two alts. Corp standing stayed at 9.1 on my main, while the alt I checked got a standing increase from 0.19 to 0.23. I am not sure if this is intentional or not, if it's a bug, I'm willing to be that the 0.04 standing increase is because of the high standing of my main (i.e. all gang members get the exact same amount)
Paigan Amarr Thirdwave	Posted - 2007.06.29 09:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Mai'Shin A few solid minmatar combos for L4s would be as follows (as always, only IMO). Muaha. Here are a few solid Caldari Level4 "combos": 1.) Single Raven with arbalests & T2Tank -end Caldari ships 4tw Okay okay. What does this have to do with the topic you ask? Point being: Who does level4s in groups anyway? -- This game is still in beta stage
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.29 11:14:00 - [19] Edited by: d026 on 29/06/2007 11:13:51 2 x cnr = guri vaganza in 15 mins:)
FT Diomedes Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.06.29 12:33:00 - [20] The shared standing, LP and bonuses is easily the best feature in the new version. It does make a very viable way for a gang of less experienced players to run Level 4s. Since Level 4s are worth around 3x more than Level 3 missions, 3 less experienced players can still make a good profit, and have a lot more fun, running a Level 4 together and sharing the rewards. You just won't get storyline missions as quickly if you run these as a gang.

Greenbolt Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.06.29 18:31:00 - [21] Edited by: Greenbolt on 29/06/2007 18:30:58 Originally by: Paigan Okay okay. What does this have to do with the topic you ask? Point being: Who does level4s in groups anyway? Its nice taking newer corp mates along to help out..and rnning gangs together also helps us work together. The skills im getting flying logistics in missions will help me in pvp too. and its fun working with someone instead of just solo L4ing. Not everyone plays purely for isk per hour. (Logistics just became more useful). --------------------------------------------------- Originally by: Scordite Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an u
Stratus Fang	Posted - 2007.07.10 04:59:00 - [22] I would have to agree fully on the logistics side of things. Get the Raven in with full or most of the aggro and enjoy some Scimitar love. Logistics make lvl4's cake. Light drones on the raven for frigate nasties and game on


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