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Insert lot's a' luck above or a tech II "bring a friend module"

No mwd to get you in range, and nothing to hold the enemy

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Edited by: Phaethon on 23/03/2004 20:34:36

Insert lot's a' luck above or a tech II "bring a friend module"

No mwd to get you in range, and nothing to hold the enemy

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Indeed, if an enemy warp scrambles you and decides to keep you outside blaster range, say 15km, you're pretty much out of luck.

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All i can say is this, after reading these threads i can say for sure that their are maybe 2 players i would fear in a megathron 1v1. And neither of them posted on this thread.

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Now for my pointers to u. Forget the lasers, forget the projectiles. With your gunnery skills and b-ship skills stick with hybrids. even in npc huntin. i can personally use either 425s or nuetrons and effectively take out a tanked raven. never had much of a problem there. One thing u need to get though is motion prediction lvl 4 or 5. It is a must skill with hybrids due to lame tracking speeds, but once trained up u will be amazed at the hits u can make. I know that i will probably get flamed for saying that 425s are useful but if u compare RoF of guns and dmg, they are about equal to the others if you have the right skills trained. (motion prediction, large hybrids, gallante b-ship, trajectory analysis) and probably a couple others in there too but cant remember them atm. just play around with different setups on your mega man. and if need be grab a corp m8 that is heavily tanked and check to see if u can take his shields down. If not then try another setup. The megathron wasnt intended for the faint of heart pilots. There are alot of risks involved in flying one. Be prepared to loose lots of them before u get good at piloting them. I know i have. And i have had my current mega for over a month now with about 5 or 7 b-ship kills. and many of them were group battles where my side was outnumbered. I hope this helps u m8. If u have further questions go ahead and Eve Mail me ingame and ask away. Be warned i wont neccesarily answer though. Dont want to give to much info about my own setup.

Off to work now. So happy Eve-ing to u all

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5 modal mega neutron blasters (w/ AM & plutonium)
2 H-50 arbalests w/ cruise (keep defenders in hold in case of a raven)
1 x-large c5-l
1 amp
2 hardeners of choice
2 tech 2 damage mods
5 cap power relays

also......must train skills up to proper levels. even the defender skill.

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5 modal mega neutron blasters (w/ AM & plutonium)
2 H-50 arbalests w/ cruise (keep defenders in hold in case of a raven)
1 x-large c5-l
1 amp
2 hardeners of choice
2 tech 2 damage mods
5 cap power relays

also......must train skills up to proper levels. even the defender skill.

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5 modal mega neutron blasters (w/ AM & plutonium)
2 H-50 arbalests w/ cruise (keep defenders in hold in case of a raven)
1 x-large c5-l
1 amp
2 hardeners of choice
2 tech 2 damage mods
5 cap power relays

also......must train skills up to proper levels. even the defender skill.

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I wouldn't suggest that setup to anybody. Without an MWD, you're at risk, and without a warp scrambler, the enemy can just leave (unless it's a cruiser or lower, which will die in the blink of an eye)

And I find wasting those 4 slots on shield tanking is pointless. There are far more useful things you can put in there.

But if it works for you, then it's all well and good. But it's not the sort of rig I'd feel safe flying in.

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the penalty is still worth if if you can spare a low slot. Usually higher skilled players use 2 because they don't need pgrid mods or stuff like that. So its all just a balancing act of your skills and your mods and what you can and cannot give up. 2 gives a noticable increase.

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How about this:

3x the best named medium blasters, 4x neutron blasters + 1 heavy missile launcher (or 7x the best named medium blasters)

1 mwd, 1 heavy cap injectors, 1 7.5km warp-jammer, and 1x webber

2x large armour repairers, 1x heat, 1x explosive, 1x kinetic, 2 dmg mods.

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hmm
I'm trying to fit two large armor repairers and 3 resistances ( explosive, kinetic and thermal ) on the low slots and still want to be able to fit enough large blaster guns on high

But the thing is i can't, even with electronics and engineering on lvl5 and weapon upgrades at lvl4.

So I want to ask somebody if it's possible when you have that weapon upgrades lvl5?

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You either go full defense or full ofense you cannot do at the same time, and you shouldn't be able to.

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High damage, good range with 425's ?
(off the top of my head so dont know if it will fit, but it should)

6x425 rails
2x named standard launcher (cruise)

Sensor booster
Large (or XL) shieldbooster
2 slots left to fit: hardener/cap injector/ shield boost amp or dampener/another booster.

2xfourier transform tracking/range mod
2xmagnetic stabiliser II (or good named tech1 damage mods)
1xReactor control
2xpower diagnostic

You can always lose one or two of the tracking mods for more capboosting power diags or maybe armor hardeners. either way, the megathron is not a defensive ship, but a damage dealer. It's just a question of what range you want to operate from.

It is possible to armor tank a mega decently, im just no good at that. But it would probably involve losing one 425 for large armor repairers, losing tracking mods for armor hardeners and equipping a cap injector.

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How about this:

3x the best named medium blasters, 4x neutron blasters + 1 heavy missile launcher (or 7x the best named medium blasters)

1 mwd, 1 heavy cap injectors, 1 7.5km warp-jammer, and 1x webber

2x large armour repairers, 1x heat, 1x explosive, 1x kinetic, 2 dmg mods.

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hmm.. i wonder if the DOT would be better than basic Neutron Blasters Large? we know the ROF is better on the mediums. i'll have to test this one out.

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You either go full defense or full ofense you cannot do at the same time, and you shouldn't be able to.

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i thinks its actually possible if u try Josh's set-up...

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How about this:

3x the best named medium blasters, 4x neutron blasters + 1 heavy missile launcher (or 7x the best named medium blasters)

1 mwd, 1 heavy cap injectors, 1 7.5km warp-jammer, and 1x webber

2x large armour repairers, 1x heat, 1x explosive, 1x kinetic, 2 dmg mods.

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hmm.. i wonder if the DOT would be better than basic Neutron Blasters Large? we know the ROF is better on the mediums. i'll have to test this one out.

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All basic large blasters do more DOT ( at lvl 4 BS and lvl 4 large hybrid ) then cruiser sized modal neutrons and the difference is big enough that fitting a mix of large ion and large dual ion is better then a mix of large neutron and medium modal neutron.

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You either go full defense or full ofense you cannot do at the same time, and you shouldn't be able to.

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i thinks its actually possible if u try Josh's set-up...

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Don't think, everybody on this forum thinks, few actually try. Now if you would say something along the lines of "I tried Josh's setup and it works for me" you'd be saying something worth reading.

Oh and I know how to kit a megathron, and It's quite possible to run a decent defense and a decent offense. But it is my opinion that what you gain in defense is not worth what you lose in offense, if you wanna play "can't kill me" don't fly a short range setup, fit some rails, sit at 100km and warp out in time. Short range ain't about getting out okay, it's about getting the kill.

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Could someone explain to me the fascination people have with Neutrons?

And I personally don't like setups that rely on a cap booster to keep their guns running. A decent blasterthron has a cap consumption of soemthing between 90-100 cap a second for it's offense, well over 30 just running the blasters around 60 for the mwd, and then you got your webber and scrambler. A single 800 charge buys you 8 seconds (so even with that booster on auto you're still losing cap), eats 1750 grid and runs out of charges in 2 minutes. But if it works for you ;)

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Could someone explain to me the fascination people have with Neutrons?

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And I personally don't like setups that rely on a cap booster to keep their guns running. A decent blasterthron has a cap consumption of soemthing between 90-100 cap a second for it's offense, well over 30 just running the blasters around 60 for the mwd, and then you got your webber and scrambler. A single 800 charge buys you 8 seconds (so even with that booster on auto you're still losing cap), eats 1750 grid and runs out of charges in 2 minutes. But if it works for you

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