When I last played the game some 3 years ago, isk didn't flood out of wormholes, jump into highsec to be fleet ganked or spawn day and night on planets.

It was Isk, it was hard to come by.

Now the cost of things hasn't changed much as thats defined by the industrial process, the amount you can earn has gone throught the roof though, everyone is a billionare

Not sure whether it's inflation or deflation as my grasp of economics isn't great , but whatever it is it isn't good.

Take my position for example. When I left the account I'd just got into cruisers, I had a little stashed to buy a BC because an old guildy was good enough to give me a hand up. The idea of being able to afford and rig a battleship was maybe a month of grind away, not that I minded it gave me a goal and a sense of achievment when I completed the steps along my career path.

Upon return I do a little research, set up a little high sec PI, don't even need to log in but once a day and Bam 7 days later pretty much enough for a BS hull. Sitting on my booty, 0 Risk, free BS , And high sec PI earnings are terribad they tell me

What the hell has happened to EVE

/edit this was gonna be a slight off topic in another thread but the forum ganked me ate my post and I thought it deserved it's own thread so as not to totally derail someone elses disscusion.

When I last played the game some 3 years ago, isk didn't flood out of wormholes, jump into highsec to be fleet ganked or spawn day and night on planets.

It was Isk, it was hard to come by.

It wasn't. It was staggeringly easy to come by compared to 2005.

I quit between 2005-2008 and when I came back isk flooded out of everywhere.

tl;dr been going on a long long time now, not going to change.......

Compared to 2005 when the game wasn't developed fully and a BS was the top end ship yes.

But think about this - Top end ship then was a BS, 100mil fitted for a decent one.

Top end ship now - Titan 60 BILLION isk roughly, 600 times more to reach the top ship in the game.

Unless ISK is also 600 times quicker to earn (which it isn't) then as far as I can see, that makes perfect sense.

It's inflation, part of the problem is that the places where you get the most ISK also pretty much give you it infinitely, so that means the more people there are playing the game or doing mission running etc. the more ISK floods the market and raises the prices.

This is what's happening in RL except the governments are just magically printing it out of thin air and giving it to everyone rather than making them earn it.

Yup. OP has got it right.

Monocles are the new isk, btw.

/me cues fanfare to launch INCURGEDDON

Think of THOSE tears.

ISK isn't the issue. None of us follow the mantra of the game and I mean none of us.

My skills and wallets say that I should be flying Omens and Prophecies. Those are what I can afford to lose, not once or twice but several dozen times and still be a force in EVE. Do I fly Omen's and Prophecies? Of course not, I fly a Zealot and an Abso. I just refuse to risk them and only fly them in fleets. We don't fly what we can afford to lose, we fly what we know will win and we never lose ships.

It's the core culture of hypocracy. If I went to goons with 2000 losses, proving I was willing and prepared to lose ships, I wouldn't be seen as a soldier, i'd be seen as a failure at PvP and would be laughed at. Yet the entire game depends on me losing ships to work.

At the mechanical level, I don't survive in EVE by doing what EVE says I am supposed to do. Do I get rewarded for losing ships? of course not but that's what I'm supposed to do to make EVE work. Fly what I can afford to lose and be willing to lose it.

EVE needs losers. Anyone in?
I tried, got laughed at, ridiculed and thrown aside like trash.

I largely agree with the OP - however I don't have issues with isk made from selling PI goods, WH pve selling rat drops, LP-store items, Monnmining or regular mining as they just redistribute isk or are even isk sinks (in the case of LP stores).

The real problem are all the isk generated out of nowhere, like all bounties, mission rewards, insurance payouts etc...

The puzzling bit is that in QENs and eonomic minutes at fanfests, these isk faucets have been identified as a problem long ago, yet CCP keeps adding them.
When I first heard about incursions, I thought they just pay Concord LP and was fine with it. I almost fell out of my chair when I heard about the obscene amounts of iincursion sk payouts CCP decided to generate from thin air.

It seems CCP game design doesn't listen to their own economists and keeps pumping isk into poorly done features to make them look better.

When I last played the game some 3 years ago, isk didn't flood out of wormholes, jump into highsec to be fleet ganked or spawn day and night on planets.

But essentially thats part of the problem, prices DONT really rise as they are defined by the cost of the minerals to make said product which hasn't seemed to change much.

Upon return I do a little research, set up a little high sec PI, don't even need to log in but once a day and Bam 7 days later pretty much enough for a BS hull. Sitting on my booty, 0 Risk, free BS , And high sec PI earnings are terribad they tell me