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Intar Medris
Globaltech Industries
Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2012.01.05 05:56:00 -
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It seems to me everyone in this game hate, and I mean hate Miners. Once a Fine and Proud profession in EVE we are now mocked at every turn. Yet every red ISK cent we make, except for a very minimal amount of bounties from rats, we earn through long hours of sitting in a belt. As new player in this game ISK can be very hard to come by. 30 days of skills later though, and you are making 90 mil an hour grinding Incursions...... In high sec. CCP does need to tone down the faucets or increase the ISK sinks or soon we all will be doomed to to horrid amounts of inflation. |
Ai Shun
State War Academy
Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.01.05 06:49:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:It's a shame something I found so fun about EVE no longer seems to excist, but I'm sure I'll find my fun somewhere despite that.
Small goals helps. I'm currently trying to figure out how to find an available research slot in High/Low Caldari space. Maybe PoS but that seems to need a lot of upkeep and I'm in-game too irregularly for that.
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Luh Windan
S T R A T C O M
49
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Posted - 2012.01.05 06:58:00 -
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Intar Medris wrote:It seems to me everyone in this game hate, and I mean hate Miners. Once a Fine and Proud profession in EVE we are now mocked at every turn. Yet every red ISK cent we make, except for a very minimal amount of bounties from rats, we earn through long hours of sitting in a belt. As new player in this game ISK can be very hard to come by. 30 days of skills later though, and you are making 90 mil an hour grinding Incursions...... In high sec. CCP does need to tone down the faucets or increase the ISK sinks or soon we all will be doomed to to horrid amounts of inflation.
It's hard to have any respect for a group of people unable to act in their own interests.
You work to maximise production, compete with each other on price, do nothing to reduce supply from your competitors (in fact many of you see each other as comrades instead of the reason you don't make enough isk) or price fix and you only have yourselves to blame for being involved in a race to the bottom.
Instead you just cry on the forums about how everyone hates you and the sky is falling. Yes that sure will fix your problems! |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
703
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Posted - 2012.01.05 07:34:00 -
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Skydell wrote:On the one hand we are all rolling in ISK, paying with Plex, on the other the only thing in the game that can impact CCPs bottom line hasn't moved more than 20% in 5 years. Someone lies.
Like... You?
I remember the PLEX being down to 260 so a couple years ago, and I remember them being around 500 not a month ago. This gives us a 100% increase in far shorter timeperiod than you claim.
So you are not just wrong, but also suffering from serious memory deficiency disorders.
84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
89
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Posted - 2012.01.05 07:44:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Skydell wrote:On the one hand we are all rolling in ISK, paying with Plex, on the other the only thing in the game that can impact CCPs bottom line hasn't moved more than 20% in 5 years. Someone lies. Like... You? I remember the PLEX being down to 260 so a couple years ago, and I remember them being around 500 not a month ago. This gives us a 100% increase in far shorter timeperiod than you claim. So you are not just wrong, but also suffering from serious memory deficiency disorders.
I like to leave people opportunites to nit pick. It allows them an easy out and exposes thier true nature.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
703
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Posted - 2012.01.05 07:47:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Skydell wrote:On the one hand we are all rolling in ISK, paying with Plex, on the other the only thing in the game that can impact CCPs bottom line hasn't moved more than 20% in 5 years. Someone lies. Like... You? I remember the PLEX being down to 260 so a couple years ago, and I remember them being around 500 not a month ago. This gives us a 100% increase in far shorter timeperiod than you claim. So you are not just wrong, but also suffering from serious memory deficiency disorders. I like to leave people opportunites to nit pick. It allows them an easy out and exposes thier true nature.
Are these giant alien nits you put out for people to pick?
84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
89
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Posted - 2012.01.05 07:51:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Skydell wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Skydell wrote:On the one hand we are all rolling in ISK, paying with Plex, on the other the only thing in the game that can impact CCPs bottom line hasn't moved more than 20% in 5 years. Someone lies. Like... You? I remember the PLEX being down to 260 so a couple years ago, and I remember them being around 500 not a month ago. This gives us a 100% increase in far shorter timeperiod than you claim. So you are not just wrong, but also suffering from serious memory deficiency disorders. I like to leave people opportunites to nit pick. It allows them an easy out and exposes thier true nature. Are these giant alien nits you put out for people to pick?
Gratz, derailed.
Go away now.
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Keltaris Cesaille
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.01.05 10:09:00 -
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I am the 99% |
Telvani
The Seal Cub Clubbing Club.
19
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Posted - 2012.01.05 10:27:00 -
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Nerf incursion (boost the LP, remove the ISK)
Nerf Bounties (boost the sec increase / loot)
Mission payouts are fine
Insurance is probably fine to be honest, its actually a very small ISK sink compared to the above.
There are people in eve who get their kicks from killing you
They are, statistically much better at killing you than you are at not being killed |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
180
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Posted - 2012.01.05 11:22:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:
Take my position for example. When I left the account I'd just got into cruisers, I had a little stashed to buy a BC because an old guildy was good enough to give me a hand up. The idea of being able to afford and rig a battleship was maybe a month of grind away, not that I minded it gave me a goal and a sense of achievment when I completed the steps along my career path.
When i started the game you had to mine or mission for months - no lvl4 missions then eh - to be able to buy a bs and usually the choice was apoc because that was THE mining ship out there.
In short times change , why should it matter?If it didn't matter to me that people 3 years ago could get a bs with only half the time invested from when i started then why should it bother you now? |
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
Mean Coalition
15
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Posted - 2012.01.05 11:23:00 -
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Othran wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:When I last played the game some 3 years ago, isk didn't flood out of wormholes, jump into highsec to be fleet ganked or spawn day and night on planets.
It was Isk, it was hard to come by. It wasn't. It was staggeringly easy to come by compared to 2005. I quit between 2005-2008 and when I came back isk flooded out of everywhere. tl;dr been going on a long long time now, not going to change.......
Technically it was also easy to come by back in the days at least as I joined the game during RMR, however start up with a new char took longer with learning skills, the guides where worse and you had to find out more by yourself, you had to get BM sets and make your own, you didn't had quick to skill fail prove ships like the drake to go for, a lot less dps and tank plus a lot more problems to acquire items.
What really changed is that eve got a lot more streamlined over the years with stuff like the LP shops(back in the days you had to run for multiple corps, turn down missions and agent offers to get a exact LP amount for the offer you wanted and wait 1-2 days for the correct agent offer -> implants that actually payed you the decent isk) or the 0.0 anno/Incursion game play where you can rise and repeat just as much as you like without preparation or slowdowns like chaining belts or scanning down plexes etc. |
Rhastafan
Cadre Assault Force
Initiative Mercenaries
15
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Posted - 2012.01.05 11:56:00 -
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I dunno. My first taste of this game was a 2 week free trial in 2005 which I quit before the 2 weeks were up (personal things came up plus I found it tedious that I kept lagging and CTDing through a certain system that most of my missions (many of them courier as I recall) took me through. Then last year I started the game anew with a new character (I had forgotten the name and such of my old character from 2005).
So some months ago I got a notice from CCP on my other email (the one I don't use for games anymore) with a comeback offer for that old trial character I had from 2005 and it included the account name. I decided I could use an alt so I activated it (with a PLEX I had bought from the market of course) and started preparing to set it up for what I wanted to use it for.
First thing I did was assign all the free SPs I had (I had read up on learning skills back in the day and had put a lot of SP into them) and gave it 10 mil in cash expecting it would be poor and would need it for skillbooks and such. Next thing I did was liquidate all of its assets and much to my surprise I ended up with over 80 million. I have no clue how I managed to accumulate that much in under 2 weeks on a trial account, but it seems to me even back then ISK was easy to come by even for a n00b. I vaguely recall T2 being crazy expensive at the time, so I would say overall we have seen a lot of deflation overall (and yes, I do come from the department of redundancy department). |
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