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Sasakisan	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:02:00 - [1] There has been a lot of discussion on the forums about Hello Kitty Online recently. For this reason, I decided to do a little research on this subject to see if the arguments made on this forum to convert EVE into a more Hello Kitty Online-type game had any merit. The Hello Kitty franchise comes from a Japanese company called Sanrio which started in 1960. Sanrio had net sales of 80 billion yen or 650 million dollars last year (link). Sanrio's President and CEO is Mr. Shintaro Tsuji. A few lines of Mr. Tsuji's message on the Sanrio website are listed below. Originally by: Mr. Shintaro Tsuji, President and CEO of Sanrio Good relationships and understanding between countries and people, and the notion of treating one another with respect, are increasingly believed to be the heart of happiness -- not just here, but around the world. Our business puts importance on the spiritual side of things. We make things which will help foster communication, we offer entertainment to add fun and fullness to everyday life, and we seek to help friendships flourish. For those interested in this sort of thing, here is a 5 year chart of Sanrio stock prices (you may need to refresh the page to get the chart to show). The online presence of Hello Kitty is Sanriotown, which recently had 2 million subscribers (link). As far as I can tell, Sanriotown will add the Hello Kitty Online game in December, 2007 (link). A review of the game is below. Originally by: Boing Boing Hello Kitty online multiplayer game Sanrio have launched a Hello Kitty massively multiplayer online game. The cuteness factor here is fantastic -- somewhere between genuinely and sickeningly fascinating: Hello Kitty World will allow thousands of players to live and participate in Hello Kitty's magical and cute online world. You will be able to roam the streets of Kitty Kingdom, XO Federation, and Melody-land. Enjoy the beautiful landscape and architecture of Puroland or Badtzcity and participate in numerous puzzles, story lines, or adventures lead by the worldwide community of Hello Kitty World subscribers. You can even have a successful career, open different shops, earn and spend Sanrio Dollars in your bank, buy a house, and trade with other players around the vast game world. Other than hundreds of choices for you to build your dream house and lovely player characters, Hello Kitty World players will also be able to raise pets and teach them special tricks and skills. Players will be able to cooperate and interact with other players to overcome a joint quest or challenge other friends to a friendly duel. You will be able to make new friends through special in-game telepathy as well as interact with other gamers through a variety of community channels and forums. Share the exciting world of Hello Kitty World and spread the message of love with both your old friends and the new ones you have just met in the Hello Kitty World. Sanrio have a winning business model and CCP might be able to learn a thing or two from it. I look forward to being able to "spread the message of love" in EVE very soon.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:05:00 - [2] .....I can honestly say i don't have a response to your.... ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.
l3lind Man Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:06:00 - [3] pedo's dream come true tbh
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Trainwreck INC.	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:07:00 - [4] TOTALHELLDEATH > Hello Kitty Online. CCP makes more than enough money to keep everyone intoxicated, what more could they want? We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Rachel Vend Gallente Zend Insurance	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:34:00 - [5] I'm sure there will be plenty of PVP'ers who intend to make "Hello kitty" into: BYEBYE KITTY. I better reserve the name "Rabid Pit Bull".
Kiyano Caldari Pilots Of Honour	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:35:00 - [6] I didnt' know that it was real Thats just made my day
Daedalus DuGalle Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:39:00 - [7] Now I have this urge to go into Hello Kitty online, undercut their market, build a monopoly and become a global trade mogul. Originally by: Janu Hull Nothing says gritty cynicism like a 1 ISK note wedged between a pair of silicone enhanced knockers.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:40:00 - [8] Wow....congratz.... you have rendered me almost speechless.... With this post of yours not one kitten got killed. Not ten or hundred or even a million. But an enterly galaxy of em.. Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
Stems Trade Consortium	Posted - 2007.06.16 01:43:00 - [9]
Razbor Poletov	Posted - 2007.06.16 02:03:00 - [10] the only situation when i use "hello kitty" is when i go to kiss my wife's... but now they are making a game about it?

The Pointless Gallente Plastic Toys	Posted - 2007.06.16 02:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Razbor Poletov the only situation when i use "hello kitty" is when i go to kiss my wife's... but now they are making a game about it? Not an image I want in my head right now. ----------------------------------------------- "Breaking News! The Pointless hates GIFs!"
Missy X	Posted - 2007.06.16 02:09:00 - [12] Edited by: Missy X on 16/06/2007 02:08:26 I want Hello Kitty decals on the side of my hauler. Seems like an excellent way to bait pirates.
Azirapheal Amarr kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.16 02:36:00 - [13] read my sig tbh Originally by: CCP Wrangler you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
Samuel Miner Caldari Ramdon Industries corporation	Posted - 2007.06.16 02:41:00 - [14] Edited by: Samuel Miner on 16/06/2007 02:40:23 I cba clicking them links and reading this **** can someone summerise for me please ? its late. WTF is Kitty Online ?
Ragornok Multiversal Enterprise Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.16 04:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Sasakisan Sanrio have a winning business model and CCP might be able to learn a thing or two from it. So, explain to me again what CCP is supposed to learn about running an MMO from a company who's MMO has yet to be launched and nobody has any idea yet how it's run or if it's successful or not other than the concept of happiness. Are we going to have limited edition adult toys based on Amarr ships maybe, kinda like those Hello Kitty things that show up on e-bay once in a while?
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.16 04:46:00 - [16] Edited by: Tortun Nahme on 16/06/2007 04:45:21 you can get adult Amarr toys nearly everywhere! whips and chains are common edit cause i cant splel Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon!
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.06.16 04:47:00 - [17] Originally by: Missy X Edited by: Missy X on 16/06/2007 02:08:26 I want Hello Kitty decals on the side of my hauler. Seems like an excellent way to bait pirates. /signed Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.16 04:49:00 - [18] ok best name ever there Jesus Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon!
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.06.16 05:24:00 - [19] Hello Kitty Online = most brutally hardcore PvP in an MMO evar. Believe it. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Gaogan Gallente Solar Storm Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.06.16 05:44:00 - [20] Sorry, but I can do nothing but laugh at any attempt at a serious discussion of "hello kitty". It strikes me like talking about the "have a nice day" smiley face.

Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.16 06:05:00 - [21] I smell an INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY! --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends. Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected]) Sig By Ortos
Shalia Ripper Caldari High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.16 06:06:00 - [22] I eagerly look forward to the Goons entering a new MMO.
Liisa Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.16 06:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Shalia Ripper I eagerly look forward to the Goons entering a new MMO. This idea has potential. ---------------------------------- Currently pursuing a "deviant playstyle."
Benglada Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.16 06:18:00 - [24] Liisa login and sit in station with me :o. Hello kitty stalks are up 300% this year btw. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends. Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected]) Sig By Ortos
Christopher Scott Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.16 07:20:00 - [25] I have just found my purpose in life. I am going to start an chinese sweatshop, and pay starving kids 25 cents an hour to farm Sanario Dollars. I'll be the first to corner the RTC market for Hello Kitty online. Nothing can stop me! Originally by: DB Preacher I may be a muppet on these forums and wind peeps up massively but what is going on here is waaaaay over the edge of reasonable morality.
Sc0rpion Archer Daniels Midland	Posted - 2007.06.16 07:31:00 - [26] Great, just what the world needs. Another place where 40 year old virgins living in their mothers' basements can pretend to be 12 year old Japanese girls. The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously. -Friedrich Nietzsche Killmails are for pooftas.
Vactet Immortalis Silens FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.16 07:45:00 - [27] Gah..my eyes!!! Scorpion... None of us needed to be reminded of that sad fact of the world.. im gonna go puke now.. Delivering the kick to the jaw of society to stop it from drooling on itself like the ignorant slop it is since 1984. Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.
d'hofren Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.06.16 08:30:00 - [28] Posted, well because people would expect me to
Ralara Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.16 08:38:00 - [29] when does hello kitty online start? I might open up a trail.
Pussey Spankratchet	Posted - 2007.06.16 08:41:00 - [30] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium TOTALHELLDEATH > Hello Kitty Online. CCP makes more than enough money to keep everyone intoxicated, what more could they want? Love the sig!

MrBreaker Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.16 09:11:00 - [31] Originally by: Shalia Ripper I eagerly look forward to the Goons entering a new MMO. Goonkitty :)
Hantari Jin	Posted - 2007.06.16 09:21:00 - [32] Hello Kitty 40,000
GoodbyeKitty	Posted - 2007.06.16 09:24:00 - [33] tyvm :D
Miz Cenuij kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.16 09:50:00 - [34] Im filling in the application form right now. It looks pretty good, you can even own a pub! Im pretty exited, I'll bet they havent even thought about scammers there yet, LOL Is there PvP? LOL "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Mud Pandemonium Minmatar Trainwreck INC.	Posted - 2007.06.16 10:08:00 - [35] Originally by: Pussey Spankratchet Originally by: Mud Pandemonium TOTALHELLDEATH > Hello Kitty Online. CCP makes more than enough money to keep everyone intoxicated, what more could they want? Love the sig! If I could only figure out how to have different signatures for each post like Dark Shikari you'd see some better ones. We had our words, a common spat. So I kissed him upside the cranium with an aluminum baseball bat. My name is Mud.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.06.16 10:38:00 - [36] My character ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can.
THEGREAT LOBO Infestation.	Posted - 2007.06.16 10:44:00 - [37] Originally by: Pussey Spankratchet Originally by: Mud Pandemonium TOTALHELLDEATH > Hello Kitty Online. CCP makes more than enough money to keep everyone intoxicated, what more could they want? Love the sig! hell yer, primus rules!! Also, anyone know where to sign up for the hello kitty beta ?
Sasakisan	Posted - 2007.06.16 12:53:00 - [38] There have been a few questions about PVP in Hello Kitty Online. Like a lot of successful MMOGs, Hello Kitty Online will have a consensual PVP system. Originally by: Hello Kitty Online Game Introduction Page Players will be able to cooperate and interact with other players to overcome a joint quest or challenge other friends to a friendly duel. In 2003 a hamster named Kuririn and his girlfriend Sakura moved into the Sanrio developers' office ( Kuririn and Sakura). These hamsters inspired the devs to create a series of animated blogs called "Kuririn Diary." In particular, episode #67 of the Kuririn Diary addresses PVP in space games.
Kim Chee Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.16 13:41:00 - [39] Originally by: Sasakisan Originally by: Hello Kitty Online Game Introduction Page Players will be able to cooperate and interact with other players to overcome a joint quest or challenge other friends to a friendly duel. In 2003 a hamster named Kuririn and his girlfriend Sakura moved into the Sanrio developers' office ( Kuririn and Sakura). These hamsters inspired the devs to create a series of animated blogs called "Kuririn Diary." In particular, episode #67 of the Kuririn Diary addresses PVP in space games. Hmmm, I wonder if the name Lemmiwinks is already taken...
Lord Dynastron Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2007.06.16 14:37:00 - [40] Awesome! Hehe,,, I am smiling so hard my cheeks are starting to hurt (face cheeks).

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.16 15:37:00 - [41] Originally by: Rachel Vend I'm sure there will be plenty of PVP'ers who intend to make "Hello kitty" into: BYEBYE KITTY. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
RuriHoshino Minmatar The Mission Guys	Posted - 2007.06.16 15:39:00 - [42] Originally by: Sasakisan In 2003 a hamster named Kuririn and his girlfriend Sakura moved into the Sanrio developers' office ( Kuririn and Sakura). These hamsters inspired the devs to create a series of animated blogs called "Kuririn Diary." In particular, episode #67 of the Kuririn Diary addresses PVP in space games. So, once upon a time there were hamsters. They fought. The end? Sounds exactly like EVE to me... Also, did anyone else find the scene where their little hamster schwartzes grow out towards each other... disturbing? _____________________________________
Amira Silvermist The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.06.16 15:55:00 - [43] A good start to make EVE a more happy place... --------------------------------------------------
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.16 17:58:00 - [44] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium Originally by: Pussey Spankratchet Originally by: Mud Pandemonium TOTALHELLDEATH > Hello Kitty Online. CCP makes more than enough money to keep everyone intoxicated, what more could they want? Love the sig! If I could only figure out how to have different signatures for each post like Dark Shikari you'd see some better ones. Talk to Chribba, he has a rotator script he'll activate for you. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
MissileRus	Posted - 2007.06.16 20:32:00 - [45] no hello wolfy? --------------------------- 4. i like pizza
Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.06.16 21:01:00 - [46] Originally by: Sasakisan I look forward to being able to "spread the message of love" in EVE very soon. What are you waiting for? Jump into LowSec and start spreading some of the love in that big, pink, Japanese schoolgirl heart of yours. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Marketcheck2	Posted - 2007.06.16 21:11:00 - [47] So the gist of this post is that CCP should market to little girls? Oh and for fun google 'hello kitty vibe' its one of their lessor known products, only for sale in Japan.
ShardowRhino Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2007.06.16 22:51:00 - [48] Originally by: Rachel Vend I'm sure there will be plenty of PVP'ers who intend to make "Hello kitty" into: BYEBYE KITTY. I better reserve the name "Rabid Pit Bull". that is the ultimate game for greifers, seriously what would make a griefer smile more then making some little girls cry about someone killing their hellokitty?? Also the pedo possibilities is frightning....that would be creepy to see a hello kitty trying to cyber.....
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.06.16 22:56:00 - [49] This thread makes me want to grief. That's bad, right? ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can.
Filthy Pierre Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.17 09:30:00 - [50] Edited by: Filthy Pierre on 17/06/2007 09:31:17 HK has hidden depths.... ...even to the extent of an HK adult toy having been produced. FP

Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.06.17 10:08:00 - [51] Forget that thing, there is a japanese 'love hotel' chain who do worse with her. ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can.
Herring Pimpology Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.06.17 10:14:00 - [52] Originally by: Mud Pandemonium TOTALHELLDEATH > Hello Kitty Online. CCP makes more than enough money to keep everyone intoxicated, what more could they want? Liver transplants
Hirana Yoshida	Posted - 2007.06.17 10:39:00 - [53] Originally by: CCP Wrangler you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for. Nice find Azirapheal. Am I the only one who is deathly afraid of the fact that CCP Wrangler, a senior member of the DEV team, is aware of the existence of "Hello Kitty Online" and worse .. what it's like to play?
Fumonchu Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.17 10:56:00 - [54] But will I be able to kill the other players in hello kitty. Where is the Pvp aspect? Where's the Violence? See, one of the reasons I like EVE more than WoW is because in WoW, I couldn't kill my fellow Allaince members (I had a hunter for farming, and a warlock for pvp), who I often wanted to kill more than the Horde players. I couldn't understand the Horde players, and they were generally a more decent, sharing lot than the idiot night elf hunter farmers that would ask me questions in something not resembling a european language, and then curse at me for killing their farming spot in something less than stellar WoW "english." (If a WoW player thought it was bad english, then you know it's bad english) Sometimes people just need violence. Minus gardening, kite flying, and distance biking, everything I do and revolve my life around includes, or leads to, violence. Violence is good, and it solves problems (if only temporarily, but then you can apply more violence!!). And I take it back, distance biking is violent, I'm commiting violence against myself, as I strive to find the pain of exhaustion. Other hobbies include paintball, hunting (squirrels, pigeons, and deer must die), snowboarding, some offroad biking, and Real Time Strategies (where I employ the 'Zerg' rush, regardless of the game's name). There's nothing quite like the relaxing calm you get from sending hundreds of digital soldiers to their doom for no other reason than "You could." So what is it that CCP can learn from Hello Kitty (I hope not how to set up a pvp game) ~~~ Post Morsa Victoria ~~~
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.06.17 11:39:00 - [55] Originally by: Fumonchu See, one of the reasons I l!ke EVE more than WoW !s because !n WoW, I couldn't k!ll my fellow Alla!nce members (I had a hunter for farm!ng, and a warlock for pvp), who I often wanted to k!ll more than the Horde players. /signed I was trying to get up my standing with Booty Bay, other alliance members were trying to get their standing up with Booty Bay's enemies, I couldn't step in and fight them to make BB like me quicker. ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can.

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.06.17 12:20:00 - [56] We're always open to learniong from other people to imrpove EVE, I'm not sure what we could learn from Hello Kitty Online though. I did hear that you can grief in Hello Kitty Online though, steal peoples milk and cookies and such... Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Thomas Maleficus Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.06.17 12:23:00 - [57] Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're always open to learniong from other people to imrpove EVE, I'm not sure what we could learn from Hello Kitty Online though. I did hear that you can grief in Hello Kitty Online though, steal peoples milk and cookies and such... I bet in Hello Kitty Online they can spell learning and improve correctly :P
The Pointless Gallente Plastic Toys	Posted - 2007.06.17 12:25:00 - [58] Originally by: Thomas Maleficus Originally by: CCP Wrangler We're always open to learniong from other people to imrpove EVE, I'm not sure what we could learn from Hello Kitty Online though. I did hear that you can grief in Hello Kitty Online though, steal peoples milk and cookies and such... I bet in Hello Kitty Online they can spell learning and improve correctly :P Did I just catch you doing the unthinkable? Did you gasp pwn a dev? Dun Dun DUUUUUUUN! ----------------------------------------------- "Breaking News! The Pointless hates GIFs!"
FingerThief Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.17 12:39:00 - [59] "Lessons for EVE" ... where is the lesson ?
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.06.17 12:42:00 - [60] Originally by: CCP Wrangler I did hear that you can grief in Hello Kitty Online though, steal peoples milk and cookies and such... Awesome! Can you get them sent to the principal's office for something you did? ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can.


CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2007.06.17 12:44:00 - [61] Bleh, I was in a hurry. Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ

Filthy Pierre Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.17 12:50:00 - [62] Too late, man - credibility blown with that player strike against you.... (See what hanging around with people who script in Python does to you?) FP
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.06.17 12:53:00 - [63] Credibility blown with a grammar flame? ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can.
Filthy Pierre Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises	Posted - 2007.06.17 13:00:00 - [64] Nooooo - I'm not a tinfoil hat wearer - I was simply busting his chops over grammar, is all. It's always good to do that. Don't attribute more to what I say than is actually said. FP
Sasakisan	Posted - 2007.06.17 13:55:00 - [65] Some have wondered, "What can we learn from the Hello Kitty weltanschauung?" I have been having a hard time putting the most important teachings into words because they involve emotions that the written language cannot express. But don't be disappointed, I have found a short video, linked below, that perfectly communicates these lessons. Short Video In addition, Sanrio devs clearly know how to keep the hamsters happy, and as many know, there are times in EVE when having happier hamsters would be excellent.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.06.17 14:06:00 - [66] One of those sparkles was just so very in the wrong place. Or maybe the right one... ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can.


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