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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.17 11:42:00 -
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The internet: where men are men, women are men, and 14 year-olds are government agents. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally by: F'nog Reaper wins the thread.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.06.17 11:48:00 -
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When I was playing WoW I had about half and half male and female characters. The one character who always (and I mean always) got hit on in-game was my female gnome. Seriously. I jumped into a boat one time to get out of the water and this dwarf who was sitting in it started demanding a kiss for the use of 'his' boat (it was just part of the scenery)
I briefly wished it was a game with eve-style pvp so I could kill him where he sat, then just left. Seriously, if you think a few men with female avatars is weird then you have no idea.
Another time someone sent me a tell containing, in its entirety "Hello, my sexy gnome". Ick! ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can. |

SleepingBuddah
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Posted - 2007.06.17 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 17/06/2007 11:57:34
Originally by: Konquera McCall
Although some males play females for RP reasons, I'd guess that many in this game play females because, with a few exceptions, the male versions of any given race are rather freakish, while the females are almost always attractive.
Attractive to male? A male trying to attract another male is a bit homosexual, don't you think?
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Nuala Reece
Caldari Starlancers Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: SleepingBuddah Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 17/06/2007 11:57:34
Originally by: Konquera McCall
Although some males play females for RP reasons, I'd guess that many in this game play females because, with a few exceptions, the male versions of any given race are rather freakish, while the females are almost always attractive.
Attractive to male? A male trying to attract another male is a bit homosexual, don't you think?
That would be about the standard definition aye. Are you heading towards some sort of point with this in the near future? So far you've related your OP to tansgendered men and homosexuality, skirting around the suggestion that there's something questionable about both those - are you suggesting that men choosing a female avatar in a game are acting out real life preferences? Or are you just meandering through your own prejudices in the hope that someone else will voice them for you? I notice you haven't shown any interest in the women who choose male avatars for instance - any reason for that?
Starlancers
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Delnas
White-Noise Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Aya I cant even tell you how many times ive been hit on, I have to make it quiet clear that I'm in no way shape or form a woman.
Hey Sexy. Wanna go down to the pleasure hub here in Serpentis Prime? We've got the best...
Erm, anyway, nothing wrong with men playing women, and IMO, nothing wrong with men hitting on men playing women either. Its a game, infact, its a role playing game. And, if you don't like the way someone is talking to you then you can always block him from the chat and pod kill him.
Nothing says "Ugh, get away from me you creep!" like murder.
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Atienne
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Atienne on 17/06/2007 12:16:32 My character is female because i once saw "The beatch" and found the french girl really hot so i wanted to make her my avatar (that was for anarchy online)
i later saw the movie again and found out that it was the name of the french guy and it was spelled Etienne.. not Atienne...
so much confusion! :D plus i created my character in a state of aesthetic absence so she's butt ugly :D but i manage because i really dont give a s**t about that picture.. though i wish i could change it to something i could relate to, i.e. paint it myself.
EDIT: bottom line.. i like the name and thought it was a female name... hence the female character.
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Miss Terry
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:20:00 -
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Because a male named Mister Terry does not sound as mysterious as Miss Terry. |

SleepingBuddah
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nuala Reece
That would be about the standard definition aye. Are you heading towards some sort of point with this in the near future? So far you've related your OP to tansgendered men and homosexuality, skirting around the suggestion that there's something questionable about both those - are you suggesting that men choosing a female avatar in a game are acting out real life preferences? Or are you just meandering through your own prejudices in the hope that someone else will voice them for you?
No, just trying to understand this phenomenon.
Quote: I notice you haven't shown any interest in the women who choose male avatars for instance - any reason for that?
The reason is that male avatars chosen by females are extremely rare.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:33:00 -
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not as are as you might think :P
the men in EvE are bug ugly :P the new avatars look relly nice though, it was making me wish I hadn't chosen a girl because I wouldn't mind being a guy if we look sexy
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Kasiaria Shardfire
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Laustin Spayce
Originally by: SleepingBuddah
Originally by: Wild Rho Why does it bother you?
Do you use Eve as a dating agency and got unlucky in that your perfect women turned out to be a hairy trucker called Butch Chestington?
No, but talking to man with female face is like talking with transsexual person...
And are there any problems with transsexuals?
Some people choose how they look for roleplay (like, in game you dirty people) purposes, other people like playing a female character for aesthetic reasons. Even if they are men or women. I know one bloke who'll only EVER play female characters in MMORPGs, because "whose backside would you rather be looking at all day?"
hey I'm the smae way as him... I'd rather stare at a sexy avatar all day than one that makes fugly seem cute...
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John Grimm
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: The Pointless
Originally by: SleepingBuddah No, but talking to man with female face is like talking with transsexual person...
Someone like... these? 
Are you train to tell me all thous chicks are dudes  
Originally by: Rawne Karrde PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
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Tappad Bakomenvagn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:39:00 -
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It bothers me more that it bothers you that male players have female avatars than the fact that there are lots of male players with female avatars.
A liddl tip: don't cyber anything that you aren't sure what gender they REALLY are.
Anyway, the fact that probably more than 70% of the females are male IRL makes the REAL females sexier. I have heard some really scary stories from real-life-female-players who have been constantly harrassed by cyberers, if you want to date people go to a dating community, not EvE online.
-T
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Camael Kuro
Snow Flake Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: Camael Kuro on 17/06/2007 12:42:46 I have 7 different characters. Of those, 4 have male and 3 have female avatars. What does that make me according to your almighty psychoanalysis?
Or maybe.. does it just not matter.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: John Grimm
Originally by: The Pointless
Originally by: SleepingBuddah No, but talking to man with female face is like talking with transsexual person...
Someone like... these? 
Are you train to tell me all thous chicks are dudes  
Considering it's on a transgender website I would hazard a guess that some are and others were.
I like to remember that it is entirely possible for a man to be born a woman, grow up a woman and never know short of a cell biopsy that he has that Y chromosome. Unless you want to go around taking genetic samples of your dates get used to only caring about what is perceptible. ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can. |

The Pointless
Gallente Plastic Toys
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Posted - 2007.06.17 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: John Grimm
Originally by: The Pointless
Originally by: SleepingBuddah No, but talking to man with female face is like talking with transsexual person...
Someone like... these? 
Are you train to tell me all thous chicks are dudes  
Yeah, they were on that Britain's Got Talent. All blokes. Shame Simon Cowell failed to notice, especially since one of the photos published in a national paper made one of them look like one of the Wraith from Stargate!   
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Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Corp die auf alles schiesst wo was sie Lust hat
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Posted - 2007.06.17 13:52:00 -
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In many other MMOGs men play girls, because the female characters have smaller hitboxes, which is good for classes with weak armor. But your signature radius doesn't get smaller if u play a female charakter in Eve.
So only one reason remains: Male characters in Eve are ugly as hell.
Guys playing girls are not homosexual, transexual or whatever. You could also ask, are players homosexual who are starring at the but of a male character all the time? Besides, there is nothing wrong with being homosexual or transexual. If you are homophobe, uptight and men playing women are irritating you, change your hobby.
For girls, it's also good that so many men play women, because it's easier to hide from annoying pick-up attempts. 
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Natalia Fachiri
Minmatar Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Natalia Fachiri on 17/06/2007 14:14:13 I tend to play girls in games (yea im a guy ^^ ). I am with the 'whose backside would you rather stare at?' crowd. Also I see it as a nice RP challenge :)
As for women with male avatars: A female friend of mine played a male troll on wow, and let me tell you that troll was the most MALE troll you would ever meet, with the cheesiest pickup lines he would shout at anything female with, or without a pulse. She is enganged and expecting a child and a really sweet person, it was just a way for her to have fun :)
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Trind2222
Amarr Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:17:00 -
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Becose is a game, why not have a female avitar? 
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Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: SleepingBuddah ...A male trying to attract another male is a bit homosexual, don't you think?
Honestly, I don't think about it much at all. Apparently you do. Why might that be? Insecurity? Curiosity? 
Perhaps instead of thinking of video game avatars as something people play as, you might consider them as something people play with.
Which would you rather play with? A member of the same sex? Or a member of the opposite sex?
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: Korizan on 17/06/2007 14:28:50
Well first off all I can say is we don't actually have avatars YET in this game. They are just pictures.
BUT
In another game I used to play there was a guild member who played a female and another guild member started hitting on the female avatar. Well it all came to a grinding halt when the players got on vent The male player with the male avatar ended up leaving the guild I am guessing do to embarrassment.  
Now with the prevalence of VOIP it somewhat destroys the illusion of the avatar if you have a very low voice and try and play a women. RP wise.
What I do find funny is people that create names that can't be spoken and then they try to get on VOIP. And the first question people ask is how to pronounce your name. Now that can be funny at times.
BUT with 99 % of the EVE population NOT RPing does it really matter what gender a person plays,in most cases I am sure it is nothing more then a arbitrary decision. Now for those guys that RP and play females or the reverse then you MIGHT find something of interest why they choose the gender.
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Aramendel
Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: SleepingBuddah No, just trying to understand this phenomenon.
In the end it's rather simple: it's a game. People kill each other in eve frequently - does this mean we are all subressed homicidal killers? Not really - because what we have here is not real. How is having a female avatar different there?
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Tao Han
Caldari Mountain of Moria
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:31:00 -
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This question pops up once a week it seems and on all MMO forums worldwide...
Does it have to mean something? This character isnt me, its a character I play in a game, it doesnt have all that much to do with my IRL persona.
I'm not asian, why did I choose an asian character?
I didnt cry because I wanted to play an assassin in Diablo 2 but was afraid to play as a female character, its pixels and polygons in a game and not a freudian experiment gone wrong.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
Originally by: John Grimm
Originally by: The Pointless
Originally by: SleepingBuddah No, but talking to man with female face is like talking with transsexual person...
Someone like... these? 
Are you train to tell me all thous chicks are dudes  
Considering it's on a transgender website I would hazard a guess that some are and others were.
I like to remember that it is entirely possible for a man to be born a woman, grow up a woman and never know short of a cell biopsy that he has that Y chromosome. Unless you want to go around taking genetic samples of your dates get used to only caring about what is perceptible.
you have dated a tranny before and still lover it dont you ? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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Valan
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Posted - 2007.06.17 14:56:00 -
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Think you have some unresolved issues lol
/start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig |

Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.06.17 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira you have dated a tranny before and still lover it dont you ?
No, but my character is named after the love interest in the short story Day Million. He falls in love with a very feminine woman (albeit with a silky pelt and tail) who is genetically male. This makes it kinda hard for me to post negatively about trannies in this persona.
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Trishan
Minmatar Green Men Incorporated The Threshold
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Posted - 2007.06.17 15:11:00 -
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Not mentioned so far is the difference between two kinds of people. One kind of people are the ones who needs to feel identified with a character, be it in a movie, book or game, for various psychological reasons; the other doesn't have this need.
Thus, it should be obvious that the first group will never understand the choices that the second group does, or judge them erroneously.
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MortyM
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.17 15:23:00 -
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You must be pretty insecure about your own sexuality if this bothers you.
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Konquera McCall
Acme Import Export
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Posted - 2007.06.17 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Konquera McCall on 17/06/2007 15:25:16
Originally by: SleepingBuddah Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 17/06/2007 11:57:34
Originally by: Konquera McCall
Although some males play females for RP reasons, I'd guess that many in this game play females because, with a few exceptions, the male versions of any given race are rather freakish, while the females are almost always attractive.
Attractive to male? A male trying to attract another male is a bit homosexual, don't you think?
No, attractive to me! Hello! Anyway, who said anything about attracting anyone? This is a playing piece in a game, not an effort for a hook-up. Some of my characters are male, some are female. They don't represent me, they just fly my imaginary spaceships. Anyway, I'd think I'd go with a male avatar if I was going to swing that way. Call me kooky, but I'm not sure I'd have much luck attracting a g*y male player with a female character.
I'm also just repeating a frequent answer to this question.
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Snake Jankins
Minmatar Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.17 15:31:00 -
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I've answered to that question in the past at least 5 times I think. If I watch a tv series or a movie, there are often characters/roles that I like. Sometimes they are males, sometimes they are females. My characters are something like a movie character. The only difference is that my imagination decides about his/her personality and what he/she does. ( And if it's a game with guns and bad-ass magic: I like hot chicks with guns/power. It's kind of sexy. )
I've just been wondering, why people ask this so often. The real question is: 'Why shouldn't I play a female char ?'  ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.' |

Dr Paithos
Minmatar Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2007.06.17 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira you have dated a tranny before and still lover it dont you ?
Yeah, that's the only reason to be tolerant and understanding...
Originally by: RedFall How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
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