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Aren Zael
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:02:00 -
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CCP:
Please make this announced as a sticky:
a lot of players are doing missions without getting some descent standing increase. (including me and some corpmates :()
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Elrinarie
Gallente
Freelancers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:08:00 -
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this is rediculous.
there is way too much faction grinding that needs to be done in this game to get to R&D all the stuff you need, on top of which having a good refine rate in different regions.
Please do something about this asap, it was already a snooze to have to work up level 1 and 2 agents over and over again for different corps.
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Ferulon
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:08:00 -
[153]
 Originally by: eleuthereus
Originally by: Bat'Leth
Still not aknowleging that there is a major issue and it seems like you guys are still hoping people will shut up and deal with some form of "recalculation" period. If this is how its going to be for the next patch, i plan on just stopping my account before the patch and not coming back for 2-3 months so everything has time to adjust and I am not wasting my money to play a game that I can not enjoy.
Bat, with all due respect, chill. I'm not sure howlong you have been playing, but this is normal for patches -- I have lived thru several. The devs/GMs can only test so many things using like 10 guys flying around on the servers. It is impossible to duplicate many things without the full Eve community -- even then, bugs, glitches, errors, and other oopsies will be present for a while...
Ug, this may be normal for patches in bad software development land. For starters (not sure if you know the devs QA for a fact or are just guessing) devs should *NOT* be doing QA.
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The devs/GMs can only test so many things using like 10 guys flying around on the servers.
Again, I hope this isn't how they do it. If they are testing everything 'by hand', no say macro regression on the actual client and/or a 'lite' client I would be pretty stunned. Regardless, what this bug indicates is that their QA process is a joke. They really need to make some changes. Another example: a GM asking for more bug reports on an incredibly easy to recreate bug that is affecting everyone. Yeah, lets flood the petition system (more so then it already is).
Obviously this should have been announced in the news -- not everyone compulsively checks standings after missions (like I do lol) or reads the mission forum. Anyways, whatever the problems of the past, this needs to be fixed ASAP.
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Arodi
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Arodi on 21/06/2007 18:19:03
Well how is this for fun; I just petitioned a hit on faction standing increase of 6 x -0.8% with Gallente for doing 1 Caldari Corporate Police Force L2 mission Illegal Acitivity 1 of 3 to 3 of 3. Seems buggy to me!
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Trooper B99
Caldari
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:25:00 -
[155]
Edited by: Trooper B99 on 21/06/2007 18:27:14
Hmmm already low and decreases by 50% if you do the same mission. FUN I thought i could just grin and bear it and grind the 0.4 corp i needed, but this is silly. ^^
2007.06.21 15.51 What goes around comes around 0.0136%
2007.06.21 16.58 What goes around comes around 0.0068%
2007.06.21 16.14 The Seven's prison facility - 0.0216%
2007.06.21 17.39 The Seven's prison facility - 0.01%
2007.06.21 16.14 Break their will - 0.0216%
2007.06.21 17.50 Break their will - 0.0101%
Bug reported.
edit - Break their will . . . . this mission is strangely appropriate 
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Arodi
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:34:00 -
[156]
Any1 else who lost 5% faction standing over a regular L2 mission?
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:41:00 -
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Saying this is due to recalculating rewards based on the timer sounds a whole lot like a misinformed GM (like pretty much every other one IÆve ever interacted with). When a mission is brand new, first time anyone ever ran it in game- you still get standing increases far greater than what is being given currently. Each level of mission has min and max standing parameters based on agent level and mission type, and the variation occurs within those set parameters. At least thatÆs how it used to be.
People always complained about min LP and isk rewards on new missions. This is not that same line of complaint. This is about getting NO standings from missions, and getting standings lower than a lvl 1 mission is supposed to give, for level 4 missions.
While any old gold bars are good enough for the masses, I want to hear from Zrakor at least, just what is going on, and what is being done to fix it.
And about being reimbursed for effectively not getting any standings: I seriously doubt that it is even possible, because when working normally missions are constantly adjusting their standings values along with the isk and LP rewards. But they are never supposed to give you 0.0 standing, or 0.0003 standing for any level 2, 3 or 4 mission in existence. While besides the Data Centers of course, hey maybe thatÆs what happened, the æyou get no rewardÆ agent attitude of the Data Centers has leaked over to the regular agents of the galaxy.
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Antor Pritcher
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:49:00 -
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Republic Navy - Gone Berserk 2lvl 0.1825
was 0.7245 before patch
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Sathamarid
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:56:00 -
[159]
Sticky or news post this!
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Michael Caldar
DangerZone Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 18:56:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Shining Shadow
Edited by: Shining Shadow on 21/06/2007 17:13:31
nevermind.. no point in trying to talk some sense into mission runners who cry over a day or two without standings gain when most other aspects of missions have got a major boost.
Major what? Boost? Where? Nerfed drones compounds? Really dorky Heat feature? Screwed up standings gains? Where did this alleged boost happen and how did the rest of us somehow manage to miss it?  You aren't talking about L5 agents here by chance? There's simply not enough of those to get excited about. 
BTW - the courier missions seem OK, only the combat ones are screwed up
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Bermag
Point-Zero
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Posted - 2007.06.21 19:00:00 -
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Not sure if it is of any help, but I run lvl 4 combat mission with one character that got incorrect standing increase 0.0015 and o.0021 for In the midst of Deadspace lvl 4 part 3 & 4) and on another character I run two courier missions which gave the normal standing increase for that kind of mission.
Also, LP/ISK rewrad was normal.
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.21 19:03:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Shining Shadow
Edited by: Shining Shadow on 21/06/2007 17:13:31
nevermind.. no point in trying to talk some sense into mission runners who cry over a day or two without standings gain when most other aspects of missions have got a major boost.
Believe it or not, some people actually run missions primarily FOR the standings gains. I am one of these people, and have an entire buisness model dependant upon me being able to further raise my standings with new corps/factions.
I personally couldn't care less about the isk or LP.
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Bahk Naar
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Posted - 2007.06.21 19:06:00 -
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Despite the Dev/GM posts, your answers are still very unclear. Can you please specify what the situation is and what we can expect?
- has this been fixed?
- should we expect immediate results (high gains now) or will the gains slowly increase over time, as they do when LP and rewards are set to base for new missions?
- What should the final gains look like? comparable to before the patch? Lower? Higher?
Thanks.
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DeathComesToUsAll
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Posted - 2007.06.21 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bahk Naar
Despite the Dev/GM posts, your answers are still very unclear. Can you please specify what the situation is and what we can expect?
- has this been fixed?
- should we expect immediate results (high gains now) or will the gains slowly increase over time, as they do when LP and rewards are set to base for new missions?
- What should the final gains look like? comparable to before the patch? Lower? Higher?
Thanks.
No offense Bahk, they have not given a straight answer to any of the other 160 posts in here, they are not gonna start with yours. All we can do is sit here, ***** at em for a few days until they magically come online and say something like "stop whining you lil punks its fixed! ok? DAMN! Now leave us alone" (only a lil nicer than that). They ignore our concerns until it effects them, then all they do is give us some bull**** automated response about how it will be "fixed soon". So yeah, don't expect to see a response, just keep bugging them about it until its fixed.
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Random Action
Minmatar
Lost and Found
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Posted - 2007.06.21 19:55:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Random Action on 21/06/2007 19:56:41
It's still broken, just completed 3 level II combat missions and it will probably take me the rest of my life to get to level 4
Corporation: Krusual tribe Bureau
Agent: Aldag Julroken
Level: II
Quality: 18
System: Hek
Security Level: 0.5
Standing change
1.53 - Initial value from pre-patch
1.53 (0.0407%) Eliminate the Pirate Campers
1.53 (0.0440%) Avenge a Fallen Comrade
1.54 (0.0602%) Recon (1 of 3)
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3CLipZ
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Posted - 2007.06.21 19:56:00 -
[166]
Edited by: 3CLipZ on 21/06/2007 19:58:30
low standings ok.. but this is just rediculous
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Ferulon
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:17:00 -
[167]
CCP,
We need an eta on the fix and if it will be retroactive. This isn't asking much.
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Antiope2k6
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:20:00 -
[168]
I have done my report and i will do another tomorow when i run one more mission and still get crap standing increase
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Mr Fledermaus
Gallente
Munich Global Activities
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:26:00 -
[169]
Bump
May the Moderator please get this thread sticky
best regards
Theres allways someone who knows more....
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Kuranta
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:27:00 -
[170]
Since I tend to read the forums, I was aware of the bug before my first mission after patch deployment and checked my standings after the first mission. Bug report filed.
But those not reading the forums or checking standing gain regular will be ****** up when realizing the bug. This bug is affecting a large part of the players but still, no Sticky or other anouncement. Realy a shame.
CCP, you still think not mentioning an issue is like there was no bug?
I wouldn't be upset if my mission whoring was for LP and ISK, which we still get, but for standing gain for my Research Agents.
If I hadn't been aware before, I WOULD be upset. Don't get me wrong, bugs happen with a major expansion, but not informing the player base on am imho big issue is NOT GOOD.
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Kuentai
Moloko.
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:47:00 -
[171]
I picked the best time ever to start grinding a new corp :o.
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Entity One
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:53:00 -
[172]
Well I just had a GM respond to my petition and the results are rather upsetting. First, he stated that no fixes would be applied retroactively.
Second, he insisted that most of the missions have already been "fixed," despite the fact that the last 15 of my missions have given me 0 standing.
Guess my R&D Agent will have to wait...
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Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:55:00 -
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Personally I am convinced that the system is reading all the missions with the same name and reducing the rewars as they are are run, so it is indifferent if you are running the 1 or 10 mission in a row, what matter is if you are the first to run the mission with that name or the n. 100.
The 20 I have run 1 mission at about 19.00 and got 0.0 standing (first mission after patch), today (with another character) I have run 1 mission at 18.30 (third after patch, but the other 2 were R&D), and got 0.0 standing.
So it is not not the number of missions you have run that matter, but the total number of times they have been run after downtime (as it appears that at DT the rounter reset).
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Ferulon
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:59:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Entity One
Well I just had a GM respond to my petition and the results are rather upsetting. First, he stated that no fixes would be applied retroactively.
Second, he insisted that most of the missions have already been "fixed," despite the fact that the last 15 of my missions have given me 0 standing.
Guess my R&D Agent will have to wait...
TY for posting. I will run a few missions tonight and see if mine have been fixed. If they haven't been I guess I will twiddle my thumbs since the fix won't be retro.
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Ihmurria
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.21 20:59:00 -
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y'know, I understand there are multiple issues following a patch, multiple bugs and problems to sort out and fix. But this is getting ridiculous. No posts other than "look it's fixed after emergency downtime" "no it's not" "..." from CCP, no ETA on a real fix, very little acknowledgement of this whole problem... I mean, the only reason I'm running for this current agent instead of a higher quality one is so that I can boost standings for my corp (high q agents for this particular corp are very far away). It's just ridiculous. And what about those who are grinding out Interbus and Sisters of Eve to neutralize negative standings or equalize their standings a bit? They are going to be p/o'ed over the waste of time.
I would really love to hear an official response soon, one that all of us can read instead of random individual petition answers.
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Kilmiester
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:10:00 -
[176]
Yes, Can we please get an official response to this instead of 3rd person "The GM told me..."
I ran about 10 missions before I realized my standing hadn't increased at all. And these were all after the supposed hotfix. |
Memnoch Obsidian
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:12:00 -
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This is making CCP look REALLY bad. When you have a major bug like this you definitely need better communication.
Another 24 hours or so with lack of info/no real acknowledgement/faulty dev posts and you have a crisis on your hands....
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Gunvor Haavik
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:15:00 -
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Still very little standing increase. last mission 0.0001%
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Arodi
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:16:00 -
[179]
But did any1 come across severe standing losses out of nowhere? I ran L2 Illegal Activity against gallente but got 6 hits of -0.8%, a total of 5% for killing combat vessels. Like I said - I don't see that as normal! Any1 else notice?
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jk scowling
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:17:00 -
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aaaaaaargh! this is irritating.
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