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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:27:00 -
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Greetings fellow mission runners.
Do you hate it when pirates probe you out of your mission spots?
Do you hate it when pirates camp the entry gates to your beloved mission agent? Especially the new LvL 5 agents?
Do you hate it when they kill you on sight you little fluffy cuty bear?
There was no solution to this problem until now!
Yes! You can now rent the Infinitus Odium LvL 5 Caldari Agent based in "Maila"!
Agent specifics:
LvL: 5
Quality: 12
Corporation: Peace and Order (What an appropriate name right there!)
Surrounding area difficulty lvl: HIGHLY DEADLY (for people that do not pay INFOD.)
If you contact INFOD now and arrange an agreement for a small fee you will recieve protection of pirates and other evil doers.
If you don't ... well 
Please contact: Dr Kojak or myself to arrange an agreement!
Thank you.
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Bailian Moxtain
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:28:00 -
[2]
Live or die?
Make your choise
- made in Norway - |
Pehova Mindtriq
Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:29:00 -
[3]
So evil, I love it 
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hilaw
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:31:00 -
[4]
That was a little slow 
Was 1 Pixel to big and you had to nerf it, well fixed now |
Lord BlackSter
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:48:00 -
[5]
You better pay 
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:51:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Nyphur on 20/06/2007 12:50:33
This is a fantastic idea. Good luck with it.
EDIT: You could give people a no-commitment trial week before they have to start paying, to let them test the agent out and see what the rewards are like. It might encourage more people to pay.
Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources. |
Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:56:00 -
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There is nothing for free.
You pay and move in or you move in and pay via losing your precious ships.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:04:00 -
[8]
 Originally by: Tassi
Yes! You can now rent the Infinitus Odium LvL 5 Caldari Agent based in "Maila"!
That sound like Mafia, to me. Both the system name and business model.
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What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs. |
Roy Gordon
Caldari
The Star Wolves
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:08:00 -
[9]
Whilst in principle this is a good idea, now you have named the location of the system your going to 'protect', your going to be victims of the well-known 'gun fighter' syndrome, i.e. every pug pirate in the area will do their level best to ensure you cannot do the job your offering to do.
Good luck out there!
That which does not kill us makes us stronger.
The Universe is ruled by three basic principles-
Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest! |
Horsefly
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:16:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Roy Gordon
Whilst in principle this is a good idea, now you have named the location of the system your going to 'protect', your going to be victims of the well-known 'gun fighter' syndrome, i.e. every pug pirate in the area will do their level best to ensure you cannot do the job your offering to do.
Good luck out there!
Um yes please bring your lovely little pew pew guns and shoot me. I love pea's but dont forget to bring the butter.
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:19:00 -
[11]
You probobly should concider informing the sourindings about the size of this fee
but apart from that, as long as you are honest, it's an actuall good idea, allthought i don't feel like admiting that
just don't turn everyone down in a massive gank of expensive mission ships and you guys might be asosicated with somthing apart from greifing in the future! (oh, teh horror) |
Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:20:00 -
[12]
Roy, INFOD is the local pirate organisation
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:25:00 -
[13]
Were you the guys camping the Reisen gate in Akora a bit before the big patch ?
I don't recall the names there, and I don't see any posted kills on your killboard, but it was an impressive array of ships there, I must say, whoever they were (way too many recons and command ships).
If that was you guys, I would love to hear about your, umm... pricing offers
Flat weekly payment ? Percentage of gains ? Or what other "pricing scheme" ? And how much ?
As a sidenote, what's stopping you from cashing in on the deposit and, well... you know... just blowing the people up just for the heck of it ?
Or worse, "failing" to protect people from "random ganksquads" roaming around ?
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U'puauht
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: U''puauht on 20/06/2007 13:32:16
Edited by: U''puauht on 20/06/2007 13:31:24
Originally by: Tassi
Greetings  fellow  mission runners.
I'd strike it out, but that doesn't work on these boards... 
Originally by: Tassi
Roy, INFOD is the local real estate and health insurance organisation
Fixed.
Edit:
Originally by: Akita T
Were you the guys camping the Reisen gate in Akora a bit before the big patch?
(...) many recons and command ships(...)
Sounds like us alright.
Originally by: Akita T
As a sidenote, what's stopping you from cashing in on the deposit and, well... you know... just blowing the people up just for the heck of it?
Or worse, "failing" to protect people from "random ganksquads" roaming around ?
If people don't believe in our business model, we're not gonna get paid, so we'll lose ISK (or rather not make it) by blowing people up.
Similarly, if we "fail" to protect people after they've paid - and I'm reading this as if you implied we'd be inclined to deliberately fail for arguments purpose - a similar loss in our wallet would be incurred.
Obviously there is no 100% safety anywhere, and people will do good to remember that upon logging in. Rest assured though that we'll do our best to ensure your safety should you decide to pay us for it.
As to the prices, please contact Tassi or Dr Kojak, as stated in the first post. (Damnit, Tassi beat me to it! )
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Wood-legged, eye-patched, parrot-on-the-shoulder Priest of The Church |
Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:28:00 -
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INFOD does not fail.
It will be a fixed price per week. If you really want a serious offer just contact me ingame, I will not discuss prices on the forums.
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Trypho
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:31:00 -
[16]
Just to make this great offer even jucier; you will get to be my drinking buddy!
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Hookers and Black Jack
Flaming Hookers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:57:00 -
[17]
LOL you guys cannot promise 100% protection from other pirate corps in the area.
there is plenty more agents to use. and who wants to run lvl v agents? not me.
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Siobhan Ni
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:00:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
LOL you guys cannot promise 100% protection from other pirate corps in the area.
We took care of your corp in very little time
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Hirana Yoshida
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:01:00 -
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Pirates finally get some loving .. lowsec only agents.
Tassi, that there is racketeering at its finest.
Here's hoping you are not too successful and end up with Motsu system performance - muhahaha
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Major Stormer
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:03:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Siobhan Ni
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
LOL you guys cannot promise 100% protection from other pirate corps in the area.
We took care of your corp in very little time
Ignore him hes a corp jumper and a idiot.
Comon guys, safe low sec, you know you want to :D
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Its just a game. Get over yourselfs.
www.eve-tribune.com
Dont get too excited now.
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Hookers and Black Jack
Flaming Hookers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:06:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Major Stormer
Originally by: Siobhan Ni
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
LOL you guys cannot promise 100% protection from other pirate corps in the area.
We took care of your corp in very little time
Ignore him hes a corp jumper and a idiot.
Comon guys, safe low sec, you know you want to :D
if thats the best ya can do sad for you.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:08:00 -
[22]
Are you serious or posting for fun ?
Do you have the means to protect the system proplerly ? Do you have at least a mothership and a solid capital fleet that is online 24/7 ?
What if you fail ? If for example a pirate scout gets in the sys, probes out my missionspot, drops a cyno and his pirate friends with thier 259234 dreads jump in and kill my faction fitted carrier - will you repay it ?
What is the fee ? Be more precise with fees/conditions please.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:13:00 -
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Infinitus Odium is very well known for being capable of securing low security systems.
If you do not realise with whom you are dealing here please watch one of our thausend videos.
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Hookers and Black Jack
Flaming Hookers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:18:00 -
[24]
Edited by: Ogdru Jahad on 20/06/2007 14:18:54
Originally by: Tassi
Edited by: Tassi on 20/06/2007 14:13:09
Infinitus Odium is very well known for being capable of securing low security systems.
If you do not realise with whom you are dealing here please watch one of our thausend videos.
EDIT: I am serious with this offer and you can contact me ingame for further details. I will not post any specific conditions in this thread.
one. What is a thausend?
two. i don't dought the seriousness of your offer.
three. at this stage I cant and do not wish to run any caldari agents.
four. why does major stormer come running to a thread that involves me and infod and forum smacks? that boy has issues me thinks.
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Ravelin Eb
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:23:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Are you serious or posting for fun ?
Do you have the means to protect the system proplerly ? Do you have at least a mothership and a solid capital fleet that is online 24/7 ?
What if you fail ? If for example a pirate scout gets in the sys, probes out my missionspot, drops a cyno and his pirate friends with thier 259234 dreads jump in and kill my faction fitted carrier - will you repay it ?
What is the fee ? Be more precise with fees/conditions please.
If you would like to know the fee contact Tassi for information.
If you do not believe we can protect you let we remind you that nothing in eve is every truely safe, and we will enjoy killing your ships and taking all youve worked for. And we arnt going to repay anything, want to live? pay us. want to die? then ignore our advice.
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Vasiliyan
The Flying Swan
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:23:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Are you serious or posting for fun ?
Do you have the means to protect the system proplerly ? Do you have at least a mothership and a solid capital fleet that is online 24/7 ?
Nobody has that. Not even BOB. Total safety cannot be guaranteed.
Also, it appears that most L5 missions do not allow capitals...
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Horsefly
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
Edited by: Ogdru Jahad on 20/06/2007 14:18:54
Originally by: Tassi
Edited by: Tassi on 20/06/2007 14:13:09
Infinitus Odium is very well known for being capable of securing low security systems.
If you do not realise with whom you are dealing here please watch one of our thausend videos.
EDIT: I am serious with this offer and you can contact me ingame for further details. I will not post any specific conditions in this thread.
one. What is a thausend?
two. i don't dought the seriousness of your offer.
three. at this stage I cant and do not wish to run any caldari agents.
four. why does major stormer come running to a thread that involves me and infod and forum smacks? that boy has issues me thinks.
I believe he was responding to your question about the ability of our corp to provide saftey. The answer is most definatly yes we do.
A basic background of INFOD. We move around a bit and basically desimate the local area of Pirates and Carebears until its completly blue from our friends moving in and people moving out.
Were very good at what we do and we keep up our end of the terms of all agreements.
Have a nice day and please pay for our roof it is perpetually leaky.
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MegAtomic
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Trypho
Just to make this great offer even jucier; you will get to be my drinking buddy!
...and that alone should be reason for a huge discount. if only to cover the costs of the beer Little Tryppi drinks
then again...low self esteem slave minmatar....hes got an excuse :P
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Neo Providence
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:44:00 -
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no offence, this really sounds like a scam. A good idea if your legit but i'm not so sure u are. U probably just prob out them mission runners yourselves. thats what pirate corp do, and i think your one of them.
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bloomich
Trotter's Independent Traders Co
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:01:00 -
[30]
Edited by: bloomich on 20/06/2007 15:01:26
Originally by: Neo Providence
Edited by: Neo Providence on 20/06/2007 14:44:54
no offence, this really sounds like a scam. A good idea if your legit but i'm not so sure u are. U probably just prob out them mission runners yourselves. thats what pirate corp do, and i think your one of them.
by chance, your not a real estate agent in real life, r u? 
So what you are saying is that they will take your isk and then hunt you with their alts?
I dont think Tassi is like that at all, nor have I heard anything bad about them. I think the coming weeks will show how prfitable these missions are so there is a lot to work from. To be honest, I think its a great thing he is doing, and I forsee more people doing the same very soon.
If you cannot beat the pirates, then the pirates putting forward a solution that is mutually benifical sounds like a forward thinking plan.
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I am aware that my name means reproductive organ in another language, I bought this char for isk with that name without relising that. |
Jessamine
Freedom United
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:25:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Jessamine on 20/06/2007 15:24:30
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
one. What is a thausend?
two. i don't dought the seriousness of your offer.
three. at this stage I cant and do not wish to run any caldari agents.
four. why does major stormer come running to a thread that involves me and infod and forum smacks? that boy has issues me thinks.
Don't you love ironic typos? Actually I don't even think that can be considered a typo...
I wonder if it woud be considered spam if I went to every thread I saw and corrected all the spelling and grammar...
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Mister Driller
Firing Squad
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:30:00 -
[32]
I have no intention of using your services since I don't run missions, but it's an GREAT idea!
Good luck on your new security plan!
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Trypho
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:42:00 -
[33]
I think this service will be used alot more after some people put up their testimonials here about losing ships.
Just come to our nice area and see how "unnecassery" this service will turn out to be. We will be more then glad to salvage your wreck.
MegAtomic - it is you who will have to pay to be even looked upon by cool people, not the other way round!
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Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Hookers and Black Jack
Flaming Hookers
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:43:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Jessamine
Edited by: Jessamine on 20/06/2007 15:24:30
Originally by: Ogdru Jahad
one. What is a thausend?
two. i don't dought the seriousness of your offer.
three. at this stage I cant and do not wish to run any caldari agents.
four. why does major stormer come running to a thread that involves me and infod and forum smacks? that boy has issues me thinks.
Don't you love ironic typos? Actually I don't even think that can be considered a typo...
I wonder if it woud be considered spam if I went to every thread I saw and corrected all the spelling and grammar...
oi dunt no, ewe till meh!
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Daelin Blackleaf
No Joy Corp
Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2007.06.20 15:56:00 -
[35]
...and so it begins.
Saw this coming a long way off. Sooner or later all the level 5's will likely be "owned" by corps or alliances with the manpower to police the system allowing their members and anyone willing to pay the rent access.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:06:00 -
[36]
Everything has a market value. So does mission running in 99% safety.
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Hehulk
Black Sea Industries
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:10:00 -
[37]
People can choose to trust me or not, but as one of their allies I can vouch that INFOD are very good at keeping to their word.
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Ironnight
Caldari
x13
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.20 16:11:00 -
[38]
Sounds like a good idea, I might send my carebear alt out there to check lvl 5s out.
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WildSide
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:10:00 -
[39]
I only gonna say one word....: Yarrr!
---Living In Norway---
---Made In Thailand--- |
Roy Gordon
Caldari
The Star Wolves
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:23:00 -
[40]
If your serious with this 'business', why don't you come and setup in Navula and Otsasai as well, that way you would get my custom.
That which does not kill us makes us stronger.
The Universe is ruled by three basic principles-
Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest! |
WildSide
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:25:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Roy Gordon
If your serious with this 'business', why don't you come and setup in Navula and Otsasai as well, that way you would get my custom.
why should we?
We are living in the area of that particual lv5 agent. so its quite practical.
---Living In Norway---
---Made In Thailand--- |
Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 17:25:00 -
[42]
This business solution does only include Maila.
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:45:00 -
[43]
A fantastic service! All mission runners should take advantage of this. So safe you can leave the crappy t2 gear behind, be sure to fit with your finest faction finery. So safe you should get used to running in groups with drones out.
I wish INFOD the greatest success with their plan. Keep us informed re: how it goes!
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Sparkius
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.20 19:14:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Jessamine
Edited by: Jessamine on 20/06/2007 15:24:30
Don't you love ironic typos? Actually I don't even think that can be considered a typo...
I wonder if it woud be considered spam if I went to every thread I saw and corrected all the spelling and grammar...
QFT.
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Lord Shrewsberry
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.06.20 19:17:00 -
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genius. i am not planning on moving out therer anytime soon. so good luck with your isk making :)
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.20 20:22:00 -
[46]
hi, im an innocent carebear looking to do lvl 5 missions in my faction fitted rattlesnake, however im rather skint since the purchase of that pith x-type xl booster so could you please show me your pricing schemes?
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Purgatori
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 20:57:00 -
[47]
anyone doubting this... i think that our reputation and being voted one of the best corps of the year will speak for its self tbh :)
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.20 21:22:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Sokratesz
hi, im an innocent carebear looking to do lvl 5 missions in my faction fitted rattlesnake, however im rather skint since the purchase of that pith x-type xl booster so could you please show me your pricing schemes?
Fact is that a fluffy bear with this setup would be totally safe from INFOD when he paid his small fee a week
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d026
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.20 22:13:00 -
[49]
OMG NEED!
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eXtas
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.20 22:48:00 -
[50]
ROFL! best ever I hope some stupid carebears pay u just to get ganked by someone else
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Sam Reynolds
Caldari
Blue Sun Holdings
Blue Sun Trust
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:03:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Tassi
...will recieve protection of pirates and other evil doers.
Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
Alliance recruitment thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=533263 |
Brolly
Caldari
Morphic field
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:39:00 -
[52]
This is a pretty damn good idea, If I had the time and means to faff with LVL 5's and the 'protection' money was'nt too steep i'd probably give it a go (depending on profit margin).
Looks like a win-win situation, griefers get grief and carebears get there pew pew.
Good luck to you
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LORD IZE
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Posted - 2007.06.20 23:45:00 -
[53]
Edited by: LORD IZE on 20/06/2007 23:44:05
LOL what a joke post these guys are getting their asses handed to them by RK and anyone saddling up with them in systems they don't control better expect trouble. Just by the mere fact that they are trying to extort isk from people for using empire agents is a total joke and anyone falling for their scam deserves to lose their isk. |
Ogdru Jahad
Amarr
Hookers and Black Jack
Flaming Hookers
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Posted - 2007.06.21 00:01:00 -
[54]
Originally by: eXtas
ROFL! best ever I hope some stupid carebears pay u just to get ganked by someone else
thats exactly what i am talking about.
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Atreides Horza
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.21 00:25:00 -
[55]
This product gets the Atreides Horza seal of approval!
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Khonsu
Rest home for Tired Seadogs
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Posted - 2007.06.21 00:25:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Tassi
Originally by: Sokratesz
hi, im an innocent carebear looking to do lvl 5 missions in my faction fitted rattlesnake, however im rather skint since the purchase of that pith x-type xl booster so could you please show me your pricing schemes?
Fact is that a fluffy bear with this setup would be totally safe from INFOD when he paid his small fee a week
That should also sum it up, I think.
They're not selling protection, they're selling "protection" (i.e. THEY will not attack you)
But I guess that was pretty obvious
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Diacon
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.21 01:33:00 -
[57]
Heh , i just feel urgency to run some missioms and take some friends with me into mentioned area
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Trisha Banks
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2007.06.21 02:26:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Khonsu
Originally by: Tassi
Originally by: Sokratesz
hi, im an innocent carebear looking to do lvl 5 missions in my faction fitted rattlesnake, however im rather skint since the purchase of that pith x-type xl booster so could you please show me your pricing schemes?
Fact is that a fluffy bear with this setup would be totally safe from INFOD when he paid his small fee a week
That should also sum it up, I think.
They're not selling protection, they're selling "protection" (i.e. THEY will not attack you)
But I guess that was pretty obvious
Well, yea IMO that was the whole point. A pirate group is planning to live in that system. That pirate group is planning to kill everything they see. If you pay them, they wont kill you. If there are other hostiles in system trying to kill you, likely infod will be looking for them, because infod loves killmails :)
As for the RK fiasco, i cant blame infod. Fighting with RK is like: "We dont wanna fight, unless you try and take our stations we wont fight"
Like everyone in the freakin world just wants to own someones station so they can pay B's a month in upkeep. Screw that and let RK keep their isk sink :)
trisha
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Caios
Caldari
Unified Refining Federation
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.21 03:19:00 -
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regardless of how you look at it, it's basically miniature version of what alliances do in 0.0
too bad L5s don't appear as profitable as they were panned out to be.
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patteSatan
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.21 03:26:00 -
[60]
As a friend of INFOD, and a mission***** extraordinaire, I can vouch for this, and will probably try myself after my norwaytrip.
...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell.
404 - Sense of humour not found. <===hUssmann VETO. made that
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.06.21 04:33:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Caios
regardless of how you look at it, it's basically miniature version of what alliances do in 0.0
I nearly crapped myself when I read this :)
No, I don't think it's akin to the alliances I know. In those alliances, 95% of the people deal with hostiles by docking up and going AFK, the others jump in their T1 "tackling frigs" (esp. 2+ years old chars) to get wasted while following orders given by inexperienced FCs, or to sit on a gate for 1 hour and then go home without firing a single shot. Naturally, those alliances are unable to deal with roaming gangs of 5 hostiles.
this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
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Ravelin Eb
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 04:47:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Diacon
Heh , i just feel urgency to run some missioms and take some friends with me into mentioned area
Please do. I need some T2 loots.
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.21 04:56:00 -
[63]
There is too much arrogance in this thread.
Anyway, if infod and outbreak start fighting, im taking my covops there to watch.
I was joking about the lvl 5 missioning btw. Not about the rattlesnake. (its on contract in jita atm, if youre looking)
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Zydora
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Posted - 2007.06.21 06:16:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Ravelin Eb
If you would like to know the fee contact Tassi for information.
If you do not believe we can protect you let we remind you that nothing in eve is every truely safe, and we will enjoy killing your ships and taking all youve worked for. And we arnt going to repay anything, want to live? pay us. want to die? then ignore our advice.
You guys might want to work on your overall sales pitch and not let these counter-productive and ambiguous comments come out.
Not sure I'd want to pay for protection from this guy, since he seems likely to shoot me regardless, simply due to the fact he appears somewhat confused.
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Ravelin Eb
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 06:56:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Zydora
Originally by: Ravelin Eb
If you would like to know the fee contact Tassi for information.
If you do not believe we can protect you let we remind you that nothing in eve is every truely safe, and we will enjoy killing your ships and taking all youve worked for. And we arnt going to repay anything, want to live? pay us. want to die? then ignore our advice.
You guys might want to work on your overall sales pitch and not let these counter-productive and ambiguous comments come out.
Not sure I'd want to pay for protection from this guy, since he seems likely to shoot me regardless, simply due to the fact he appears somewhat confused.
Prehaps you should reread the OP, and work out exactly what we are offering here. In that post i intended to highlight the fact that even though we offer you protection from ourselves for a sum of money, due to the nature of the game, if someone really wanted you dead, then he will find a way to kill you. Thats just how eve works.
We dont mind if you pay or not. We make money regardless, from your payment or from your loot. However it is in your best intrests to take the payment option as you will then be able to mission run in reasonable saftey. Think of it as our gift to the EVE Mission runner, do you graciously take your amazing prize and run to your agent with a spring in your step as you shower yourself in delicious faction delights, or do you nitpick our forums posts? YOU CHOOSE.
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Ulii
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Posted - 2007.06.21 07:13:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Ravelin Eb
... even though we offer you protection from ourselves for a sum of money...
that is just the thing... you do NOT offer protection. you offer passage.
you do not protect in any other way than simply by killing off every other ship you see.
if someone get past your 'security' gate camp, you wont help the attacked mission runner.
until you offer some real protection, i dont think you will get a lot of customers
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Admiral Alina
Minmatar
Old Farts
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.21 07:19:00 -
[67]
weeeeeee.
now u guys just let CCP know what to fix in the next patch/expansion.
GG ^_^
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Mastin Dragonfly
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 08:57:00 -
[68]
What happens when one of your 'clients' decides to blow up other 'clients'?
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.21 10:11:00 -
[69]
I demand FREE ticket! 
"to be honest it makes me wonder about the mental state of a person who would join a corp called Space Perverts and Forum warriors"
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Aslann
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 10:18:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Ulii
you do not protect in any other way than simply by killing off every other ship you see.
How does this not offer protection? If everybody else is dead they'll be having a hard time blowing you up now wont they?
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Dr Shameless
Skull Soft
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.06.21 10:49:00 -
[71]
Quote:
...This business solution does only include Maila...
So i guess the agent is stationed in Maila. What if you get a mission one jump away. Are people going to be ganked there ? just curious
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WildSide
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:08:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Dr Shameless
Quote:
...This business solution does only include Maila...
So i guess the agent is stationed in Maila. What if you get a mission one jump away. Are people going to be ganked there ? just curious
I can insure u that if u pays to be blue for a week..u are blue everywhere...even 1 jump away
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LordGodKingBufu
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:11:00 -
[73]
Seen it all b4.
Nowt better to do than camp a gate 23/7
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:46:00 -
[74]
I have already recieved alot of convo's and eve-mails.
People are actually surprised at how cheap safety is.
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Zaphod Jones
Minmatar
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 11:47:00 -
[75]
Originally by: patteSatan
As a friend of INFOD, and a mission***** extraordinaire, I can vouch for this, and will probably try myself after my norwaytrip.
As a friend of Celtic Anarchy, and pirate wannebe, I can vouch for the fact that patte is in fact a mission ***** of the greatest degree (thanks to his missioning I got jump clones) have fun in Norway patte, and keep drinking that strong stuff 
Rent your level 5 caldari agent
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Esab
Caldari
Pitch Black Incorporated
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.06.21 12:00:00 -
[76]
I have no idea how honorable Infinitus Odium are but I cant see them ever being able to police one system continually....let alone ones surrounding them.
The idea is a great one but the reality is impossible.
No one is going to want to keep two gates covered 23/7 to stop 'reds/neutrals' jumping in. I have had my share of waiting at gates and know for a fact that its just not going to happen.
Maybe Borders in the RW are manned 24/7 365 but thats the RW not EvE.
You could pay six different corps to protect you but the seventh will get you if they really want to. Its a damned if you do..damned if you dont situation tbh..
Mission running ships are just too juicy to ignore if killing in low sec is what you do. And we all know how easy it is to fly/live around in a system where you can dock at.
The tools are in the game for flushing out mission runners if you have the patience to do it and the rewards from success are worth the patience in most cases.
The tools are not in game for succesfully policing an area....maybe one day they will be but I cant see it being soon.
Also as soon as people know there are a group of pilots trying to lock down the system you get the 'lets go break the camp guys' scenario....going to be a bit of a suprise to the happy mission runner who starts a mission when there is a group of 'Blues' camping the station/gate as they leave....to find them replaced with 'Reds' upon their return.
If I paid for protection I would expect 'Protection' not a "Sorry mate..we know you paid but that guy that just popped you and took all your gear must have logged on in system so we had no idea where he was"
Exactly why I have never paid for anything..I would rather use my inititave and guile to get the results that I want.
Each to thier own I guess :)
Esab
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Scaramunga Scaramai
Amarr
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 12:55:00 -
[77]
pewpew
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.06.21 13:38:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Caios
regardless of how you look at it, it's basically miniature version of what alliances do in 0.0
I nearly crapped myself when I read this :)
No, I don't think it's akin to the alliances I know. In those alliances, 95% of the people deal with hostiles by docking up and going AFK, the others jump in their T1 "tackling frigs" (esp. 2+ years old chars) to get wasted while following orders given by inexperienced FCs, or to sit on a gate for 1 hour and then go home without firing a single shot. Naturally, those alliances are unable to deal with roaming gangs of 5 hostiles.
Asteroid the size of Texas hits nail on head.
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Bruno Bonner
Gallente
Lutin Group
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:40:00 -
[79]
This business model will only work if you require a safety deposit from your clients first as a sign of commitment (not too high), plus the monthly rent.
Since what you are offering is 24/7 protection (or is it restricted to certain schedules?) Infod should pay back to the customer if any negative sec-rating pilot is able to gank the mission runners while they are performing a mission, effectively working as a "warranty".
Otherwise is just the plain old "pay me, and i promess that i wont gank you", then pirate still ganks the guy after he/she paid and earns double money....since no pirate can be trusted, right?.
good idea, but it miss the important details.
Bruno
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Horsefly
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 14:46:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Bruno Bonner
This business model will only work if you require a safety deposit from your clients first as a sign of commitment (not too high), plus the monthly rent.
Since what you are offering is 24/7 protection (or is it restricted to certain schedules?) Infod should pay back to the customer if any negative sec-rating pilot is able to gank the mission runners while they are performing a mission, effectively working as a "warranty".
Otherwise is just the plain old "pay me, and i promess that i wont gank you", then pirate still ganks the guy after he/she paid and earns double money....since no pirate can be trusted, right?.
good idea, but it miss the important details.
Bruno
Again you guys seem to miss the fact that this is protection from INFOD. If you choose to be in maila to run the lvl 5 missions around the area you would be wise to pay us to not shoot you. We do not guarentee you that you wont be shot by other pirates in the area. However if you watch the system closely you will relise that there are not a great amount of pirates that venture into our territory. Also if they do find there way in there they are usually dispensed quite quickly as we are very territorial.
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
Defcon One
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:03:00 -
[81]
Hey, this is crazy enough to work!
We would need independant auditors to see how many pirates not from your corp comes around every day and how far goes your territory... I mean, if the agent is in your territory, but he could give a mission outside of it if it's not big enough.
PS : I have no info on your territory and your level of control, and that's why I ask, no sarcasm here, pure information.
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The Vexor Navy Issue is much more fun than the Myrmidon !
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Horsefly
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:18:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Eleana Tomelac
Hey, this is crazy enough to work!
We would need independant auditors to see how many pirates not from your corp comes around every day and how far goes your territory... I mean, if the agent is in your territory, but he could give a mission outside of it if it's not big enough.
PS : I have no info on your territory and your level of control, and that's why I ask, no sarcasm here, pure information.
Well atleast your post isnt a blatent hatred twords the idea. We welcome observers. However in saying that you will be shot on sight so not sure how effective that will work. The only way your not KOS is to either be our friends through combat and respect, or through temperary settings from payment to Tassi. Just the way we roll.
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Inmate 19225004
Absoluten Calfeutrail
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:36:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Inmate 19225004 on 21/06/2007 15:35:35
Originally by: Horsefly
you guys seem to miss the fact that this is protection from INFOD.
If you choose to be in maila to run the lvl 5 missions around the area you would be wise to pay us to not shoot you.
We do not guarentee you that you wont be shot by other pirates in the area.
LOL this is a far cry from the thread subject, "Rent your LVL5 agent NOW!"
Also, Tassi's 1st post states this, "If you contact INFOD now and arrange an agreement for a small fee you will recieve protection of pirates and other evil doers."
Maybe you two should have some pillow talk over this?
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Zhuge Liang
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:43:00 -
[84]
Moved from Missions forum, existing replies from non player corps before this message will remain as it was moved.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.21 15:48:00 -
[85]
Well, let's put it this way, this MIGHT just work.
As the CEO of a semi-idling, more-tahn-half newbies corp of casual missionrunners (coincidentally, for Peace&Order, and based in Abagawa, so not far away from Maila), and hence interested in this offer, here's how I'm looking at it.
1. The current buggy status of missionrunning means we have to wait a while anyway.
Yeah, that's right, mission standing gains are a joke post-patch, be it solo or as a gang.
I'm just hoping they'll fix that one ASAP.
If it gets fixed, and L5 missions DO give a significantly higher standing increase compared to L4s (at least as much as L4s give compared to L3s), and proportionally higher LP, then again, it might be worth doing.
Sure, you also need at least one looter/salvager to work WHILE the other gang members kill the mission itself (because it WILL take longer as 2 hours in cheapo ships, even with a 5-man killing team, if you fit for "mission survival"), there's no ISK in bounties, and there's plenty of faction standing hits (either towards Gallente or Minmatar, due to ship kills).
Also, don't forget, with the way rewards are "dynamically adjusted", and the utterely braindead CCP implementation of "all missions start from the LOWEST possible LP" instead of a pre-calced value (or just highest possible value), it will take a while to get a good feedback.
2. I don't personally know the [INFOD] guys, so I'm naturally suspicious.
This means that at least in the begining, if we manage to get a L5 gang in the air, everybody will be flying platinum insured unrigged ships with cheapo fitings and blank clones, so the risk (towards other players) is minimal.
Sure, the risk to lose the whole gang to the mission itself is greater, but such is the supposed nature of the game: no risk, no gain.
3. Even if this just means "protection FROM [INFOD]", it's ok.
Why am I saying that ?
Well, lets look at it this way: you're in a system with 50 people in local.
40 of them are "blue" (say 20 INFOD and 20 other missionrunners), 5 are your corpmates, the other 5 are more or less unknowns.
Basically, it's just 5 people you might need to be wary of, instead of 25. I see that as an improvement.
Now, if suddendly those 5 prove to actually be a ganksquad out to get missionrunners... well, what happends when/if you suddendly scream "INFOD, gang up with us, they're in our mission deadspace" ?
Well, maybe they won't come to the rescue, maybe they will (and get a few nice kills and loot from those would-be gankers), either way those 5 just might get scared enough to get out.
Of course, if suddendly local flares up from 50 to 100, you know it's time to take a break and dock, unless you can determine most of them are friendly.
4. L5 missions might take place 2-3 jumps away from agent system.
So, while people might be safe in Maila, the actual place you do the mission might just be out of the "protected/intel" zone.
This could be the most serious problem.
I have no idea how you think to resolve it.
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So, basically, it comes down to two things: if L5s are worth doing at all, and if INFOD keeps their word.
Apparently, INFOD might just keep their word (and I hope I'm not wrong, as I said, I don't know anything about them).
So you're left with the " is it worth doing L5s ? "
If it's not yet worth doing, it might just get changed so it IS worth doing, seing how CCP intended them as an ISK sink in the first place (yes, sink, combined with the LP-shop).
Be it through loot drop adjustment or any ofther things, but they'll make it (eventually) worth doing L5s.
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