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RossP Zoyka
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:24:00 -
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I'm just a little perturbed at the negativity on the forum towards the minute cost that EVE TV is going to be.
All the complainers seem to be in some weird nostalgia zone where people having fun in a crappy studio is better then people having fun in an expensive studio.
And then people are ****ed cause "I'm not paying a $1.50 for the principle of it!"
Followed by the "EVETV is now incorporated and sucks and just wants our money and doesn't care about the public!"
Where the hell are all of these assumptions coming from? Are they actually based on watching an episode? Or is everybody just emo? EVETV should have been giving away "Secondhand Serenade" CDs to all new subscribers or something. bahahhaa (looked the most emo group up on myspace to figure a good one out  "
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Ash Vincetti
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ash Vincetti on 21/06/2007 21:28:17
 Originally by: RossP Zoyka
Or is everybody just emo?
This
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Death Kill on 21/06/2007 21:33:30
Originally by: RossP Zoyka
And then people are ****ed cause "I'm not paying a $1.50 for the principle of it!"
Nope. They are ****ed because n00bs will be comenting all sorts of stuff they have no clue about.
We would rather hear actual players part of the EVE community talk about stuff, then someone who only plays eve because it makes them a paycheck.
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Demarcus
Project Gemini
EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:36:00 -
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Spending as much time as most of us do actually playing EVE, if I ever feel the need to spend even more time watching a TV show about it I'll just cut to the chase and blow my brains out.
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Necrosmith
Gallente
Excellence In Business Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Demarcus
...if I ever feel the need to spend even more time watching a TV show about it I'll just cut to the chase and blow my brains out.
Sheer brilliance!
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Isyel
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Death Kill
Edited by: Death Kill on 21/06/2007 21:33:30
Originally by: RossP Zoyka
And then people are ****ed cause "I'm not paying a $1.50 for the principle of it!"
Nope. They are ****ed because n00bs will be comenting all sorts of stuff they have no clue about.
We would rather hear actual players part of the EVE community talk about stuff, then someone who only plays eve because it makes them a paycheck.
Besides the fact you and then general community have proven themselves patented idiots time and time again... some people more than others...
You apparently missed the part WHY the "noobs" are there. Besides looking pretty.
And we know they're not there just to look pretty. They can't beat Spiral.
And anyway, the first one is free. Try it, it might actually be good. Oh wait, that's too much for most of you. 
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We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other! 
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Demarcus
Project Gemini
EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:47:00 -
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There was a pretty one? I think someone has been in space to long.
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Isyel
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Demarcus
There was a pretty one? I think someone has been in space to long.
Someone needs to check the evetv site. :P
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We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!
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Demarcus
Project Gemini
EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.06.21 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Isyel
Originally by: Demarcus
There was a pretty one? I think someone has been in space to long.
Someone needs to check the evetv site. :P
I did, you should get out more. The feminine looking dude in the sport coat is the "prettiest" person in that picture.
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Tao Han
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:00:00 -
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In my experience ppl around here whine about everything. They could wake up tomorrow with a mothership suddenly appearing in their hangar and they would whine about it.
People are just waiting for an opportunity to jump on someone, be it spelling some word wrong or just simply asking a question. It used to be alot more positive attitude on these forums but its seems that the hate from CAOD has spilled over or something
I'm gonna watch the EVE-TV as I have always watched it. It was hilarious then and I'm hoping for it to be fun now.
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Isyel
And anyway, the first one is free. Try it, it might actually be good. Oh wait, that's too much for most of you.
Have I ever stated that....or anyone else for that matter? They simply voice their opinion about the concept.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Demarcus
Originally by: Isyel
Originally by: Demarcus
There was a pretty one? I think someone has been in space to long.
Someone needs to check the evetv site. :P
I did, you should get out more. The feminine looking dude in the sport coat is the "prettiest" person in that picture.
Don't want to get you off your impression, but i would like to remind you that everyone has different tastes. That is the reason we are all looking different more or less 
What looks indifferent or ugly to you, may appeal a lot to someone else.
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Jose Quevo
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:28:00 -
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Well, it is always easier to complain than it is to look for the 'bright side', so to speak. Given the anonymity our virtual characters provide us, we are much more prone to let the bad, bottled-up thoughts out here than in real life.
But yes... I will watch the free trial before I give any feedback on the general quality of the show. I can, however, critisize the 'pay-per-minute' idea.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Isyel
You apparently missed the part WHY the "noobs" are there. Besides looking pretty.
As did I at first because it was misunderstood that they were the new EveTV presenters or something. I have to retract my previous statements and say that this will be a very interesting thing to watch. I'll definitely tune in for the first one if it's free but I'm afraid that's as far as it gets for me unless I'm really impressed. I don't even pay cash for my eve subscription. I can't afford to.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:31:00 -
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I have no problem with PPV EVE TV. But as a person who doesn't watch TV normally, it'll have to be fairly good to keep me paying. Not trouble with the concept, but basically it'll have to be good enough that I'd rather watch EVE TV than ... play EVE.
I'm not so sure that'll happen.
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Gridcrash
Redline Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:33:00 -
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Honestly, my biggest complaint is that I need to create an account with some 2-bit video website, give yet another unknown outfit my credit card information, and the darn thing is only available streaming!
If I could use the EVE store to buy an episode and download a WMA, I would buy a few episodes just for grins. Make them available on iTunes (Shut up! I actually LIKE iTunes! ) and I'll go for it.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:43:00 -
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If EVETV sucks, its because they've fallen into the same trap that TechTV/etc fell into long ago.
A lot of people see it coming a mile away and are ready to laugh at it if it fails.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:48:00 -
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I don't pay for streaming video. Ever. On principle. The day I pay someone for a "watch once" low quality video stream which uses, by and large, exactly the same technology as would be required to simply let me download it is the day the geek inside me dies a painful death.
It would be no more problem for them to distribute it as a download (even DRM protected, if they must) than it would to distribute it by this crappy service they're using.
That said, I'm gonna tune in to the free one (it being free) and see if its any good.
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Dr Locke
Caldari
Fray RnD
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Posted - 2007.06.21 22:49:00 -
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Turning something fun and extra into a business-model to get your friends paid - ugh.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari
High4Life
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
If EVETV sucks, its because they've fallen into the same trap that TechTV/etc fell into long ago.
A lot of people see it coming a mile away and are ready to laugh at it if it fails.
Style over substance?
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Maya Rkell
Third Grade Ergonomics
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
If EVETV sucks, its because they've fallen into the same trap that TechTV/etc fell into long ago.
A lot of people see it coming a mile away and are ready to laugh at it if it fails.
No, it sucks because CCP see shiny like "ooh TV" and focus on it rather than on the actual game fundermentals like the UI.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:27:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 21/06/2007 23:29:03
I don't watch TV much for the sake of TV watching.
I *idly* watch TV on my tuner in a corner, while playing EVE or bombarding the forums.
I barely watched some of the free EVE-TV broadcasts before.
I am surely NOT going to PAY to watch EVE-TV.
And this is how most people in here feel about it anyway.
It will be a MAJOR (financial) flop.
I wonder if they'll even get 1000 paid views per month.
No, wait, that's me being extremeley generous.
EVE-TV is just mildly entertaining and somewhat informative.
Or, rather said, WAS.
EVE-voice is useful.
That's 10$ PER YEAR.
EVE-TV will be around 100$ per year.
How many people have EVE-voice ?
Do the math yourself for EVE-TV.
I don't want to hire their economic consultant.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Dark Shikari
If EVETV sucks, its because they've fallen into the same trap that TechTV/etc fell into long ago.
A lot of people see it coming a mile away and are ready to laugh at it if it fails.
No, it sucks because CCP see shiny like "ooh TV" and focus on it rather than on the actual game fundermentals like the UI.
Yes it's a real shame they haven't forced Xyliana (who i doubt knows much or anything about programming etc) to fix the UI. It would be done in no time, i guess.
I also suspect that you as a senior programmer for a major software house, know already how to solve it in a minute.
Give these people a chance ffs. After all they are trying something new, they might succeed they might not. But at least they should get their chance.
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Lady Natacha
Minmatar
Water and Power
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Posted - 2007.06.21 23:31:00 -
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Simple fact is, streaming video sucks and there isn't any content available that I would be willing to pay money for, that is offered as streaming only.
Now, if EVETV were to make an .avi,.mp4, or etc file available, they have my full attention.
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Maya Rkell
Third Grade Ergonomics
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Dark Shikari
If EVETV sucks, its because they've fallen into the same trap that TechTV/etc fell into long ago.
A lot of people see it coming a mile away and are ready to laugh at it if it fails.
No, it sucks because CCP see shiny like "ooh TV" and focus on it rather than on the actual game fundermentals like the UI.
Yes it's a real shame they haven't forced Xyliana (who i doubt knows much or anything about programming etc) to fix the UI. It would be done in no time, i guess.
I also suspect that you as a senior programmer for a major software house, know already how to solve it in a minute.
It's not about Xyliana. It's about the focus and interests of the management of Eve Online, who have done nothing very little improve the UI from its terrible state, indeed in this patch they've added in cludgy and bulky "heat" when a large proportion of Eve players cannot use it. They're spending their time organising thing far from the core game issues which should be addressed, before they do side projects.
Oh, and designer. And I've posted ideas here before. The main one being "don't try and fix it given your record at this, give the players the tools to do it and then adopt the best of that they make as the default UI"
It's getting to the stage where Eve is downright painful to play for people who have had experience of more recent MMO's. This isn't going to do Eve any good, and shinies like this EveTV are not going to attract new customers.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:38:00 -
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you have no right or authority telling CCP what to do
if you dont like eve tv dont watch it
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ps if you plan to quit eve to show you have authority then you sir are an idiot - good day
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RossP Zoyka
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:50:00 -
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Wow! A few of the whiners are emo but for the most part......everybody hates "streaming video."
I am sure that they are doing that to stop the 
Look, I'm sorry, but I am all for giving people a buck (literally) if they manage to entertain me after the first episode. Its sad that I can't download that episode and show it to all my friends and rip off the people busting their asses making this but I think I'll live if it ends up being good.
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insidion
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Posted - 2007.06.22 00:51:00 -
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Well said Maya. I like the idea of Eve TV, was quite addicted to it during the tournament and thought it was a better project then than the horrid thing it's mutating into, but frankly I wouldn't have paid for it then either. Throwing in this wacky "11 million dollar studio" and a cast of actors rather than eve fanatics strikes me as classic Dilbert style management. =P
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Sharupak
Minmatar
Knights Of the Black Sun
The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2007.06.22 01:11:00 -
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Oh dang it! I was sure this was going to be a thread about fat chicks!
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EVETV Xyliana
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Posted - 2007.06.22 01:35:00 -
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I think with some of the things in the thread it gets to the point where I say.. do I even correct people when they make up the weirdest stories I ever heard? Where did you hear that CCP bought a studio or we hired Jane Goody as a weather girl, or maybe EVE TV is actually a dodgy fetish amarr roleplay hour. Anyways. I can't clear up the strange false statements of this thread cause I am tweaking some post production. EVE TV did a live dev blog tonight, shows up Saturday at DT (for free) and fly safe.
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