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alexreborn	Posted - 2007.06.23 03:10:00 - [1] Edited by: alexreborn on 23/06/2007 03:11:30 After see all these posts from Tiller, I just have some words for you guys. Blondieonsum is the biggest nub in the world. I dont know how you guys have a dude like him in your corp . We caught Blondieonsum in MHC on the Harroule gate in a Cerberus. When he saw that we followed him in to gank his ass, he decided he would log before decloak.. Hooray. He logs, but he couldn't tank for more then a minute, so he popped. Then the next day, hes coming into Harorule in a Raven, and well my corps AF gang/Recon gang is at the gate at the right time. WOW he logs AGAIN. This time he survives because we didn't have enough DPS. In any case about 20 minutes later he logs in again, we gank his raven. BUT he LOGGED AGAIN with his pod. We managed to snuff it out though and pop him. Fit stabs if youre going to travel. But dont freaking log on decloak. Its really lame.
Plaetean Drunken Shenanigans	Posted - 2007.06.23 03:16:00 - [2] evemail > posting on forums -----
Atreides Horza Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.23 03:22:00 - [3] I slept in a horse once...
sb404 Caldari Fluffy Rabbit Killers	Posted - 2007.06.23 03:26:00 - [4] Originally by: Atreides Horza I slept in a horse once... Was it a white horse? Did you do it out of survival or just because you could? sb404 Director of Internal Affairs
Incantare Caldari Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.23 03:33:00 - [5] Something tells me Tiller doesn't care about these carp tactics.
alexreborn	Posted - 2007.06.23 03:43:00 - [6] Edited by: alexreborn on 23/06/2007 03:44:34 Bum that BOOT HIM
alexreborn	Posted - 2007.06.23 03:47:00 - [7] All in favour of booting BLondie AYE Though I dont care. I just want to shame him and make my self feel special on the EVE-O forums by showing off my mega epeen
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.23 04:13:00 - [8] Tiller probably doesn't care. IIRC, he logs to save his pod, defended his alliance mates when they dishonored a 1v1, and in his exact words "tbh a kill is a kill, honor blah, it's a game, honor has no place in eve imho.".
OHGODSPIES	Posted - 2007.06.23 04:35:00 - [9] As good as kleptos are, being funny is not their strong point.
Sachin	Posted - 2007.06.23 05:22:00 - [10] whoazors i never heard of people logging before, thanks for the heads up homie!!!!!!!!!
Mindhack kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.23 05:53:00 - [11] so why do our enemies talk smack about us?
Arvald Caldari The Last Prophecy	Posted - 2007.06.23 06:37:00 - [12] Originally by: Mindhack so why do our enemies talk smack about us? because you guys keep swingin your e-peen's around on the fourms and everyone is sick of it ===============================================
Mindhack kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.23 06:57:00 - [13] haters feed me cookies
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.23 06:58:00 - [14] I have no problem with corp m8s logging if it's the right thing for them at the time.. You come here whining because you made errors that let someone escape (not enough DPS as you said), tough luck try harder. btw the word 'LAME' is used by people who can't make the game mechs work in their favour Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
Dihania Gallente Oyster Colors	Posted - 2007.06.23 07:16:00 - [15] it's a 'dog eat dog' game... trust in eve is nothing, why would anything else ? "Take what you can, give nothing back!" It's all about the fun and nothing more. Posting this may try and denigrate the pilot and his mates, but for most people it doesn't, just because it's a freaking game in which we all try to kill each other. It's the nature of the game world. :D Null!!!!
Plaetean Drunken Shenanigans	Posted - 2007.06.23 10:55:00 - [16] Originally by: tiller btw the word 'LAME' is used by people who can't make the game mechs work in their favour I thought logging to avoid combat or save a ship was an exploit? Not a game mechanic. -----
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.23 11:13:00 - [17] Originally by: tiller I have no problem with corp m8s logging if it's the right thing for them at the time.. You come here whining because you made errors that let someone escape (not enough DPS as you said), tough luck try harder. btw the word 'LAME' is used by people who can't make the game mechs work in their favour that game mechanic is there to save ppl on ctd's tiller. using a game mechanic in a way that it is not intended to save your ship is called exploiting. the only reason ccp won't classify it officially as an exploit is because it can't be proven. logging to avoid combat is lame because it means you lack the skill to evade ppl without it. You know i like you for many things tiller but this is 1 of a couple things you do that ticks me off. it ruins the whole game feel. DE
Vrabac Amarr Shadowed Souls The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.06.23 11:16:00 - [18] Originally by: tiller You come here whining because you made errors that let someone escape (not enough DPS as you said), tough luck try harder. From what I read they killed him both times, even podded the second one.
Draghkar Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.23 11:44:00 - [19] Originally by: OHGODSPIES As good as kleptos are, I lol'd.
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.23 11:50:00 - [20] Edited by: tiller on 23/06/2007 11:52:18 If I were CCP I'd make it so that if you lose your connection for any reason your ship stays where it is and tough luck if your ISP died. That would once and for all settle these pathetic arguments... Until the above fix people will log, it's just the way it is.. I never used to but to save my pod in a large blob fight I'll log everytime now. (as lag would just kill me) Everyone else does it except a few fools who think they are 'above everyone else', why should I bother playing by some 'rule' that aint enforced, you dont get no medals for it. I play eve as the game mechs allow me to.. if that mech allows me to shut my client to save death then so be it. Maybe with all this logging getting out of hand CCP will actually fix this bug. (exploit if you want to call it that) Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.23 11:56:00 - [21] I never slated you for logging to save ur implants in that laggy fleet fight. Altho i wouldn't do it myself i can understand the reasoning for it due to lag. But logging in normal combat because you lack the skills to evade them properly is in my opinion just lame. While your corp members do that, klepto will never be viewed as one of the best pirate corps in eve. DE
Irob Urore	Posted - 2007.06.23 13:58:00 - [22] Maybe he crashed at those exact moments you guys where ganking him? did that ever occur to you?
hUssmann Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.23 14:11:00 - [23] Frankly, If you ever disconnect, tough **, you stay put. People who have ISP's or Computers full of viruses constantly disconnecting them is not another persons problem, if they don't want to be ganked then sort out your out of game problems first. If you hit a bad spike tough **, if you're downloading you shouldn't be playing, if you've got a bad ISP, well, you picked them didn't you? Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat.
Silverized 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.23 14:36:00 - [24] Its people with your approach to loggin off Tillar that ruins alot of the fun in eve. I guess you¦ve never been to the south regions where all the macro people and others constantly logs. If you saw the full problem with loggin you¦d not call it a game mech:/ ------------------------------
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.23 14:46:00 - [25] Edited by: tiller on 23/06/2007 14:45:08 Originally by: Silverized Its people with your approach to loggin off Tillar that ruins alot of the fun in eve. I guess you¦ve never been to the south regions where all the macro people and others constantly logs. If you saw the full problem with loggin you¦d not call it a game mech:/ if you let logoffs ruin your game then you are simply going about it in the wrong way... I put myself constantly in positions where people log off right in front of me, dont see me crying about it ccp needs to fix it... nuff said Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
pwnedgato kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.23 15:53:00 - [26] Originally by: hUssmann Frankly, If you ever disconnect, tough **, you stay put. People who have ISP's or Computers full of viruses constantly disconnecting them is not another persons problem, if they don't want to be ganked then sort out your out of game problems first. If you hit a bad spike tough **, if you're downloading you shouldn't be playing, if you've got a bad ISP, well, you picked them didn't you? Do you really expect me to not lurk for pron while I gatecamp?
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.23 15:55:00 - [27] Originally by: pwnedgato Originally by: hUssmann Frankly, If you ever disconnect, tough **, you stay put. People who have ISP's or Computers full of viruses constantly disconnecting them is not another persons problem, if they don't want to be ganked then sort out your out of game problems first. If you hit a bad spike tough *, if you're downloading you shouldn't be playing, if you've got a bad ISP, well, you picked them didn't you? Do you really expect me to not lurk for pron while I gatecamp? Thread winrar , pure funnyness snip* Signature removed, bodily function jokes are not appropriate for this forum. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.23 16:32:00 - [28] Originally by: hUssmann Frankly, If you ever disconnect, tough **, you stay put. People who have ISP's or Computers full of viruses constantly disconnecting them is not another persons problem, if they don't want to be ganked then sort out your out of game problems first. If you hit a bad spike tough , if you're downloading you shouldn't be playing, if you've got a bad ISP, well, you picked them didn't you? About the ISP your wrong. How about someone not having enough money to get a good ISP? Your saying in other words in order to play EVE fairly you have to have real life money... Another thing, is it the persons fault the ISP is **ty? No it's the ISP people isn't it... Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
TEHBLINDMAN	Posted - 2007.06.23 16:47:00 - [29] its a templar?
ScoRpS 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.23 17:08:00 - [30] although i understand the fear behind a pre-determined log off if they are flying a really expensivee ship or carrying a game changing ammount of loot, but i seen all kinds of ships loggin, some not even worth the shirt on my back type ships. Loggin is in game but sometimes its a clear display of reflex fear for no good reason. "i'm in trouble even though my ship is like under 3 mil in total value i'll log! that'll teach them!" I know a corp mate who jumped into a camp unwittingly in a command ship and crashed, he felt bad so he logged back in and warped right back into the camp and went for a smoke whilst they ganked his ship and pod, just so he could feel better, he is not a logger. i respect that. the reason i respect that is that to him the loss of a ship is less then the loss of his repuation in game as a fair player who imposes on him self what he expects from others. I also would not log and face whatevers coming afterall if i am smart enough to get myself into that position i should be prepared to deal with it even if means losing a ship. Any way, i play how i see fit and so should u all, but if u get pidgeon holed as a cowardly logger then ofc u were smart enough to make that happen all by yourself!
Igrayne kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.23 17:49:00 - [31] i have crashed at jump in before trying to scan gate awaiting the blobs mighty dps, something about a bizzare low level exception. I did log back in and when i warped back it put me closer to gate and i managed to get out so sometimes doing the honourable thing has dividends. I never log i like the risk or there is no point in expensive fittings although if im travelling or carrying expensive stuff or even a expensive ship i have a scout!! A decent gate gang prepares for the logoff with a prober. Also nothing worse than probing a logoff to find tech I fittings on a heap of junk
Wraith Brutor	Posted - 2007.06.23 18:05:00 - [32] In this case it doesn't appear to saved his ship anyway as he was silly enough to log back in too soon Would be nice if ships didn't warp when logged, just stayed and disappeared after timer ran out, but I don't see how they could fix the problem with peoples net connections dropping mid mission. You'd just end up with all the carebears and screaming, crying, and drumming their furry heels on the floor about how they lost their ship due to a disconnect mid-mission or mid "being 'persuaded' to part with his isk / ship by a Pirate" until CCP put it back on again. And to the guy who says if your ISP drops that you should have got a better ISP ...pffft. You think all net dropouts are the ISP's fault? And you name me ONE ISP that's aimed at home users that has a zero service failure rate and I'll fly into Ammamake with a Bestower full to the brim of faction goods ('hurridly checks net to make sure their are none' ) There's always reasons a net connection can drop, and having the best ISP won't ever completely prevent that. Originally by: CCP TomB Kill my chosen ones and thou shall be name 'pirates', and the no0bs in high sec will not allow you there but we give u three character slots for a reasons. Train haulers wisely.
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.06.23 18:40:00 - [33] Originally by: Atreides Horza I slept in a horse once... AWESOME
n0thing omen. D-L	Posted - 2007.06.23 18:53:00 - [34] Originally by: tiller stuff You cant ask for game that will penalize people with sloppy connections. However, making the ship to stay ingame after he logs off if he been aggroed, can work. Like if said BS jumps in, logs and decloaks, if you aggro him, he stays there just like pvp timer. Same should be done with NPCing maybe. But making someone die at some planet/gate just because he was alone in system, fell out of game, and someone comes by to gank him...just silly. I have very stable net and even then I had the pleasure of CTD just because either client or connection shut down. ---
GrYeYeS	Posted - 2007.06.23 19:17:00 - [35] What other MMO warps an in game avatar to a safe place when disconnected?
hUssmann Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.23 19:55:00 - [36] Edited by: hUssmann on 23/06/2007 19:54:21 Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: hUssmann Frankly, If you ever disconnect, tough **, you stay put. People who have ISP's or Computers full of viruses constantly disconnecting them is not another persons problem, if they don't want to be ganked then sort out your out of game problems first. If you hit a bad spike tough , if you're downloading you shouldn't be playing, if you've got a bad ISP, well, you picked them didn't you? About the ISP your wrong. How about someone not having enough money to get a good ISP? AOL - ú30/Month - **e software. Nildram ú20/Month - Good. www.adslguide.org I'm not flaming, but if people choose not to research before they buy from a company, it's only there fault. You wouldn't buy a TV from a guy flogging one in the street. Ginger Magician > You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of combat.
Tunnas Unrepentant Inc	Posted - 2007.06.23 20:26:00 - [37] Originally by: Irob Urore Maybe he crashed at those exact moments you guys where ganking him? did that ever occur to you? ppl don't wait 20 minuts to log in after crashing randomly A fix to this whole deal with the ctrl + q could be to send a message to the server that the user logged off from the game and is not to be warped away. If a real crash occures the server will ofc not get that message and it follows normal procidures, you can still tab to desktop and kill the program from the task manager, but in many cases that is time consuming and ppl will not have the time to do it, And btw tiller you suck for loggin and for telling ppl to log, i would never log i never have done so and i never will, i would rather loose my ship. I think i have lost one pod in low sec, the first and last, it is easy to escape with the pod in low sec even in a fleet battle. As soon as you hit structure find and mark a celestial and spam warp and your pod will warp out. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Dionisius Gallente Vindictive Behavior THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.06.23 21:01:00 - [38] Originally by: Draghkar Originally by: OHGODSPIES As good as kleptos are, I lol'd. That makes 2 of us. _______________________ What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
Lee Wai	Posted - 2007.06.23 21:49:00 - [39] Originally by: Tunnas Originally by: Irob Urore Maybe he crashed at those exact moments you guys where ganking him? did that ever occur to you? ppl don't wait 20 minuts to log in after crashing randomly A fix to this whole deal with the ctrl + q could be to send a message to the server that the user logged off from the game and is not to be warped away. If a real crash occures the server will ofc not get that message and it follows normal procidures, you can still tab to desktop and kill the program from the task manager, but in many cases that is time consuming and ppl will not have the time to do it, And btw tiller you suck for loggin and for telling ppl to log, i would never log i never have done so and i never will, i would rather loose my ship. I think i have lost one pod in low sec, the first and last, it is easy to escape with the pod in low sec even in a fleet battle. As soon as you hit structure find and mark a celestial and spam warp and your pod will warp out. Whatever he said..!
Alpha Sentori Caldari kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.23 22:50:00 - [40] Originally by: alexreborn Edited by: alexreborn on 23/06/2007 03:13:33 Edited by: alexreborn on 23/06/2007 03:11:30 After see all these posts from Tiller, I just have some words for you guys. Blondieonsum is the biggest nub in the world. I dont know how you guys have a dude like him in your corp . We caught Blondieonsum in MHC on the Harroule gate in a Cerberus. When he saw that we followed him in to gank his ass, he decided he would log before decloak.. Hooray. He logs, but he couldn't tank for more then a minute, so he popped. Then the next day, hes coming into Harorule in a Raven, and well my corps AF gang/Recon gang is at the gate at the right time. WOW he logs AGAIN. This time he survives because we didn't have enough DPS. In any case about 20 minutes later he logs in again, we gank his raven. BUT he LOGGED AGAIN with his pod. We managed to snuff it out though and pop him. Fit stabs if youre going to travel. But dont freaking log on decloak. Its really lame. Dont take me wrong, I got respect for you guys, as I do with most pvpers. But seriously man, logging... GRRRRRrrrrrrr!! So, let me get this straight. You ganked someone who crashed or logged but you killed him anyway. Then you did the same again, let's assume he did log for whatever reason, what exactly is your point? Is it that someone logged under circumstances where they were sure to lose their ship or is it that you're so happy with your little self after killing a Klepto you came on here to boast about it? Enlighten us all, what is your point? If he did log then I assume he had reasons and they were his reasons, is it forum worthy? I think you like us, I think you want to be with us, I think you're too shy to ask, Go on Son, take the plunge. Dare yourself to send a mail to one of us, even Tiller (have some of dad's alcohol first) and ask to join. We'll have you, honest. Alpha
cruicky Unrepentant Inc	Posted - 2007.06.23 23:31:00 - [41] logging to save yourself is lame, fact. Anyone who trys to deny that, is either a coward or a noob. Ooh its a game mechanic so its fair, think what u like but its still an exploit and its still lame no matter how u try and justify it.
Sentinel Eeex Caldari Lords Of Amber	Posted - 2007.06.24 00:00:00 - [42] Originally by: Alpha Sentori So, let me get this straight. You ganked someone who crashed or logged but you killed him anyway. Then you did the same again, let's assume he did log for whatever reason, what exactly is your point? Is it that someone logged under circumstances where they were sure to lose their ship or is it that you're so happy with your little self after killing a Klepto you came on here to boast about it? Enlighten us all, what is your point? If he did log then I assume he had reasons and they were his reasons, is it forum worthy? I think you like us, I think you want to be with us, I think you're too shy to ask, Go on Son, take the plunge. Dare yourself to send a mail to one of us, even Tiller (have some of dad's alcohol first) and ask to join. We'll have you, honest. Alpha Seems like you had some of dad's alcohol already
alexreborn	Posted - 2007.06.24 01:36:00 - [43] Edited by: alexreborn on 24/06/2007 01:38:15 HAHAAHAHAHAA boasting about killing a klepto? you think I even care? I dont even really know who you guys are, except that you ganked my Ferox and you were all flashy red. The only reason Im even posting this is because Tiller has been going on a post spree posting about how ubber cool he is on the Eve -o forums.. You want to be cool, then dont pull lame tactics like logging because a few AF's got you locked down. Otherwise, heres an idea, USE A SCOUT ALT, or a friend of yours. You guys all seem pretty interested in defneding your corp mate, where were you guys to scout him? Surely PVPers as expereinces as your selves know what that is right? or do you think becausae you are in klepto corp that a bunch of "noobs" such as my self, are too scared to enage? LOL Anyway, the rest of your gargle doesn't really bother me because like I said, I dont even know you, and wouldn't want to fly with a bunch of loggers anyway. Originally by: Alpha Sentori Originally by: alexreborn Edited by: alexreborn on 23/06/2007 03:13:33 Edited by: alexreborn on 23/06/2007 03:11:30 After see all these posts from Tiller, I just have some words for you guys. Blondieonsum is the biggest nub in the world. I dont know how you guys have a dude like him in your corp . We caught Blondieonsum in MHC on the Harroule gate in a Cerberus. When he saw that we followed him in to gank his ass, he decided he would log before decloak.. Hooray. He logs, but he couldn't tank for more then a minute, so he popped. Then the next day, hes coming into Harorule in a Raven, and well my corps AF gang/Recon gang is at the gate at the right time. WOW he logs AGAIN. This time he survives because we didn't have enough DPS. In any case about 20 minutes later he logs in again, we gank his raven. BUT he LOGGED AGAIN with his pod. We managed to snuff it out though and pop him. Fit stabs if youre going to travel. But dont freaking log on decloak. Its really lame. Dont take me wrong, I got respect for you guys, as I do with most pvpers. But seriously man, logging... GRRRRRrrrrrrr!! So, let me get this straight. You ganked someone who crashed or logged but you killed him anyway. Then you did the same again, let's assume he did log for whatever reason, what exactly is your point? Is it that someone logged under circumstances where they were sure to lose their ship or is it that you're so happy with your little self after killing a Klepto you came on here to boast about it? Enlighten us all, what is your point? If he did log then I assume he had reasons and they were his reasons, is it forum worthy? I think you like us, I think you want to be with us, I think you're too shy to ask, Go on Son, take the plunge. Dare yourself to send a mail to one of us, even Tiller (have some of dad's alcohol first) and ask to join. We'll have you, honest. Alpha
ChessKiller Minmatar System-Lords	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:05:00 - [44] I vote kleptomaniacs The log out masters of eve have some Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
alexiaous kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:32:00 - [45] Edited by: alexiaous on 24/06/2007 04:31:46 For all of you going on about logofski, about 7/10 of the corps/alliances in this thread have logofskied to vsq roams... As for if he log'd or crashed, well you can mail him to ask ^^ Scouts are useful tho and should be used to get around camps =) Props to that outbreak guy, im sure most eve's population however given the same chance and circumstances would have been to busy patting themselves on the back at their luck. We have no honor, We don't care about your alliance, We live in ama, We are KLEPTO =)
Atreides Horza Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.24 05:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Arvald Originally by: Mindhack so why do our enemies talk smack about us? because you guys keep swingin your e-peen's around on the fourms and everyone is sick of it I fail to see how the "swingin' o' Peens" of Tiller and his boys is any different from the swinging of so many others on these boards, OP included. The only difference is that the Kleptos don't take themselves so saddeningly serious while doing so. This is a game. If you want chest-beating, glory and great speeches, go join the young republicans.
Saltire System-Lords	Posted - 2007.06.24 06:45:00 - [47] Tried to keep this off the forums with a evemail to tiller but his response was 'boofu*kinghoo carebear' you never logged when we were all in PAYUS with you last year.... SALTIRE : the most loved, feared and respected pvper and pirate in eve history.
Baron Dots	Posted - 2007.06.24 09:09:00 - [48] and don't forget, logging is a skill, many fail at it.
Hudsonn Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.24 09:25:00 - [49] Who are kleptomaniacs? ___________________________
Vrabac Amarr Shadowed Souls	Posted - 2007.06.24 09:37:00 - [50] Originally by: Alpha Sentori is it forum worthy? LOL
Wind Ictiva Delta Kappa Gamma	Posted - 2007.06.24 13:00:00 - [51] There aren¦t many thing i hold holy in this game. For instance, i dont see anything particularly wrong with baiting nubs with ôfree stuff insideö outside nubbinville station. Not that i have ever been bored enough to do it, but its basicly public service. Strips them of the handicap that trust is in this game and minimizes their risk of losing more expensive ships later. I dont even see anything wrong with dishonoring 1v1¦s. Why would you take some pirate¦s word? He¦s a pirate FFS. If you feel the need to spar, spar with a corpmate. Or at least prepare yourself for the possibility of getting ganked. But i do hold some things holy. Honoring ransoms is the main one. Its the only thing that a pirate¦s word should be good for. No matter if the guy is a multi billion ISK scammer, a major corp thief or likes to shoot his gang mates when he¦s bored, his word should be good when it comes to ransoms. And logging. If you log cause you think your gonna lose, you¦re not ready to become a pirate. If you log cause you cant affort to lose your ship, you shouldnt be flying it. If you know how to play the game you shouldnt have to log. WTF are you doing flying solo, without backup or a scout thru pirate infested space. Plan ahead. If you get ganked, take it like a man, its your own fault. There are of course exeptions to all rules and there do come up situations that are beyond your control, like lag. But how often does that happen? That should be the exeption, not the rule. But then again, it sucks to follow some ôholier than thouö principles when no one else does. I guess im just anal like that. I was young and needed the money
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.24 15:08:00 - [52] Originally by: ChessKiller I vote kleptomaniacs The log out masters of eve have some ginger taught me how to log with real skill, now that he is gone I'm the only person left to pass on his seeecrits Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.24 15:09:00 - [53] Originally by: Hudsonn Who are kleptomaniacs? they are the people that made you post / waste your time in a thread about them Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.24 15:11:00 - [54] Originally by: alexreborn blah blah except that you ganked my Ferox and you were all flashy red. blah blah Otherwise, heres an idea, USE A SCOUT ALT, or a friend of yours. The man who dies to our guns now gives advice in CAPS LOCK Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
alexreborn	Posted - 2007.06.24 18:56:00 - [55] Edited by: alexreborn on 24/06/2007 18:57:10 Did I log? Nope.
Kelshaw Xun Minmatar Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.06.24 19:38:00 - [56] don't worry about the loggers, just the loggoffskies you'll get most of the loggers. but those supprise gangs... imo don't log.. take your medicine... 'cause you will in one way or another. no ship lasts forever
Zephyr Zhang kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.25 11:02:00 - [57] Life sucks mate, live with it Zephyr Out ---------------------------------------
Corn Meal kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.25 22:31:00 - [58] I bet ud do it to just to save ur imps anyways members are of all skil levels fighting some of our more exp players allways has a differant outcome but ur just as lame for blobing him with recons he was flagged under sentry u should be able to kill him np...... Treat people The way you exspect to be treated and remember EVE is just a game.
alexreborn	Posted - 2007.06.26 03:45:00 - [59] Edited by: alexreborn on 26/06/2007 03:48:52 Edited by: alexreborn on 26/06/2007 03:45:08 Originally by: Corn Meal I bet ud do it to just to save ur imps anyways members are of all skil levels fighting some of our more exp players allways has a differant outcome but ur just as lame for blobing him with recons he was flagged under sentry u should be able to kill him np...... I didn't know 3 ships taking on a raven was a blob. rapier, harpy, and an ishkur? ya thats a real mans blob. too bad u dont know the meaning of blob. you know whats funny I seem to recall klepto using a fleet of Battleships to gank my ferox. Way to be lame and use a blob on a tech 1 fitted battlecruiser. I mean HOW lame is that?????????????????????????????????????? wow, some people are just.... amazing........... I cant belive it.. Im called lame for using a harpy, but mr Kool Klepto is not lame for using 10 battleships to gank my ferox.... wow so incredible. do u have an iq of 5? I gotta ask. Oh btw, Ive never ever been podded in low sec. EVER. EVER EVER EVER EVER. EVER. I thought klepto was suppose to be good. Now you guys are just completely ruining everything wiht your big egos and small brains. Think before you type buddy, it might help you not look like a complete koo kooo head. Oh ya and just to clarify.. WE DID KILL HIS POD 2 TIMES!!!!! So stop telling us to live with it. WE DID LIVE WITH IT, and we won. BUT its just ubber lame that such a tactic is being used by people that want respect from the Eve-o forums.. U want respect? earn it. If that BS fought and killed 3 of us, and then went down to re-inforcements Id say you know what you guys are awesome, awesome setups, Id love to fly with you. but because you cry lke little girls that get anti tear shampoo in their eyes I dont respect you. Respect is earned. not granted. /end thread.
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:18:00 - [60] Originally by: alexreborn but mr Kool Klepto is not lame for using 10 battleships to gank my ferox.... wow you still sound upset Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
Presidente Gallente Pirate Hunters Inc	Posted - 2007.06.26 11:05:00 - [61] Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 26/06/2007 11:07:15 MHC overall is lame because gate camping is lame. Harroule is anyway lame because camping in numbers at the end of a pipe are lame tactics. So ... who's lame at the end? Logging is ofc lame but you lame guys deserved it. It's just lame vs. lame. Nothing more. Pres G +++ JOIN PAP +++
XrTN kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.26 16:15:00 - [62] Originally by: alexreborn Edited by: alexreborn on 26/06/2007 03:48:52 Edited by: alexreborn on 26/06/2007 03:45:08 you know whats funny I seem to recall klepto using a fleet of Battleships to gank my ferox. Way to be lame and use a blob on a tech 1 fitted battlecruiser. I mean HOW lame is that?????????????????????????????????????? wow, some people are just.... amazing........... I cant belive it.. Im called lame for using a harpy, but mr Kool Klepto is not lame for using 10 battleships to gank my ferox.... wow lol u sure there weren't more?
Trebor Notlimah Gallente Gunfleet Logistics Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.26 20:45:00 - [63] As far as I'm concerned, If you're camping without an interdictor, you deserve to get logged off on.
Zardenim	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:33:00 - [64] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: tiller I have no problem with corp m8s logging if it's the right thing for them at the time.. You come here whining because you made errors that let someone escape (not enough DPS as you said), tough luck try harder. btw the word 'LAME' is used by people who can't make the game mechs work in their favour that game mechanic is there to save ppl on ctd's tiller. using a game mechanic in a way that it is not intended to save your ship is called exploiting. the only reason ccp won't classify it officially as an exploit is because it can't be proven. logging to avoid combat is lame because it means you lack the skill to evade ppl without it. You know i like you for many things tiller but this is 1 of a couple things you do that ticks me off. it ruins the whole game feel. DE Actually, an exploit is even more specifically using a game mechanic beyond its intended purpose to do something that violates the EULA. Logging to save a ship/pod is a despicable tactic, no doubt, but it's not an exploit per that definition (unless you logged to save yourself from Concord, and it worked somehow). I'm still all for making it a bannable offense though.
alexreborn	Posted - 2007.06.27 03:37:00 - [65] Originally by: Trebor Notlimah As far as I'm concerned, If you're camping without an interdictor, you deserve to get logged off on. Do you even know how to read? I guess not.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.06.27 20:11:00 - [66] Originally by: Zardenim Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: tiller I have no problem with corp m8s logging if it's the right thing for them at the time.. You come here whining because you made errors that let someone escape (not enough DPS as you said), tough luck try harder. btw the word 'LAME' is used by people who can't make the game mechs work in their favour that game mechanic is there to save ppl on ctd's tiller. using a game mechanic in a way that it is not intended to save your ship is called exploiting. the only reason ccp won't classify it officially as an exploit is because it can't be proven. logging to avoid combat is lame because it means you lack the skill to evade ppl without it. You know i like you for many things tiller but this is 1 of a couple things you do that ticks me off. it ruins the whole game feel. DE Actually, an exploit is even more specifically using a game mechanic beyond its intended purpose to do something that violates the EULA. Logging to save a ship/pod is a despicable tactic, no doubt, but it's not an exploit per that definition (unless you logged to save yourself from Concord, and it worked somehow). I'm still all for making it a bannable offense though. that is exactly my point. It is exploiting the game mechanic to do it. The only reason that it not classified as an exploit in the eula or whatever exploit list is available is because it can't be proven. If they could prove it without a doubt that they logged simply to save themselves then ccp would take action against it. Anyone has says using game mechanics like this to help them makes them a great player is just admitting that they lack the skill to evade being killed while on the game. I could have saved many of my ships over the last few years by logging off but not only is it amazingly boring but it is not playing the game. If ccp really wanted to make it so that logging off saved you as a mechanic then why did they add the pvp timer? DE
Crimson Magician Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.27 20:26:00 - [67] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: tiller I have no problem with corp m8s logging if it's the right thing for them at the time.. You come here whining because you made errors that let someone escape (not enough DPS as you said), tough luck try harder. btw the word 'LAME' is used by people who can't make the game mechs work in their favour that game mechanic is there to save ppl on ctd's tiller. using a game mechanic in a way that it is not intended to save your ship is called exploiting. the only reason ccp won't classify it officially as an exploit is because it can't be proven. logging to avoid combat is lame because it means you lack the skill to evade ppl without it. You know i like you for many things tiller but this is 1 of a couple things you do that ticks me off. it ruins the whole game feel. DE your crappy, change-when-suits-squirmy-logic got caught out straight there tiller... guess what you did, covered it up with more crappy sqirming logic ... lemme guess, you just dont care right... sure hahahaha, thats why your answers always show you just cant bear to accept anyones pionts even when you know they are right... sure you dont care?
tiller kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.27 20:28:00 - [68] Originally by: Crimson Magician Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: tiller I have no problem with corp m8s logging if it's the right thing for them at the time.. You come here whining because you made errors that let someone escape (not enough DPS as you said), tough luck try harder. btw the word 'LAME' is used by people who can't make the game mechs work in their favour that game mechanic is there to save ppl on ctd's tiller. using a game mechanic in a way that it is not intended to save your ship is called exploiting. the only reason ccp won't classify it officially as an exploit is because it can't be proven. logging to avoid combat is lame because it means you lack the skill to evade ppl without it. You know i like you for many things tiller but this is 1 of a couple things you do that ticks me off. it ruins the whole game feel. DE your crappy, change-when-suits-squirmy-logic got caught out straight there tiller... guess what you did, covered it up with more crappy sqirming logic ... lemme guess, you just dont care right... sure hahahaha, thats why your answers always show you just cant bear to accept anyones pionts even when you know they are right... sure you dont care? I'm sure Kleptomaniacs are recruiting evildoers. Channel KLEPTO for info.
Dr Slice kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.06.27 23:38:00 - [69] Edited by: Dr Slice on 27/06/2007 23:38:40 I must add here, that CCP has several very strong and simple, yet effective options that would nerf the logoffski tactic. They haven't been implemented for specific reasons. As such, its part of the game mechanics (and an option) that isn't classified as an exploit, so of course players will exercise this option. The only difference in this case, is tiller has the nuts to be honest about it and admit it, while over half of the rest of Eve's population utilizes this tactic but keeps quiet about it. For those of you who do not log, no matter what, congrats, hopefully your gameplay is heightened by your decision. The moment you start getting emotional that others don't abide by your conduct of play, is the moment you need to re-evaluate why you are playing the way you are. You must realize it is impossible to impose your will or play style on other players. They will do what they want. There are many hypocrites in this game (example, those who logoffski but point fingers at those who admit it on the forums).
shadow saber Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.28 00:31:00 - [70] /me slaps tiller lol see ur still being an attentnion ***** :P and yeh guy logged so wat u killed him get a life and tell someone who cares i've lost count number of times people have logged infront of me hell i;ve been known to do it occasionly loggin is a game mech u dont like it go play wow Infod Grunt :P
shadow saber Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.28 00:31:00 - [71] /me slaps tiller lol see ur still being an attentnion ***** :P and yeh guy logged so wat u killed him get a life and tell someone who cares i've lost count number of times people have logged infront of me hell i;ve been known to do it occasionly loggin is a game mech u dont like it go play wow Infod Grunt :P
Sunny Mooninite Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:59:00 - [72] Originally by: ScoRpS I know a corp mate who jumped into a camp unwittingly in a command ship and crashed, he felt bad so he logged back in and warped right back into the camp and went for a smoke whilst they ganked his ship and pod, just so he could feel better, he is not a logger. i respect that. Wow, you sure seem to need approval from your peers. That's a weak game imo. Whatever the game lets you do, you should do, if it's to your advantage. People who whine about it are just crybabies. --- CCP wishes they could do this
Trebor Notlimah Gallente Gunfleet Logistics Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.29 18:37:00 - [73] Originally by: alexreborn Originally by: Trebor Notlimah As far as I'm concerned, If you're camping without an interdictor, you deserve to get logged off on. Do you even know how to read? I guess not. Everyone hates you. Even your own mother. Seriously, I just got off the phone with her. She told me to tell you to stop calling her cell and that you need to move out of the attic by next Thursday to make room for all my stuff thats coming in. Thanks for your time
Nicho Void Gallente Hyper-Nova	Posted - 2007.06.29 19:52:00 - [74] Originally by: Trebor Notlimah Everyone hates you. Even your own mother. Seriously, I just got off the phone with her. She told me to tell you to stop calling her cell and that you need to move out of the attic by next Thursday to make room for all my stuff thats coming in. Thanks for your time Go. Out. Side. ---------------
alexreborn	Posted - 2007.07.01 04:11:00 - [75] Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww look at the big baby. Originally by: Trebor Notlimah Originally by: alexreborn Originally by: Trebor Notlimah As far as I'm concerned, If you're camping without an interdictor, you deserve to get logged off on. Do you even know how to read? I guess not. Everyone hates you. Even your own mother. Seriously, I just got off the phone with her. She told me to tell you to stop calling her cell and that you need to move out of the attic by next Thursday to make room for all my stuff thats coming in. Thanks for your time

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