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Tal Ribek
Caldari Kingdom of Kador
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Posted - 2007.06.24 00:38:00 -
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Is it just me or has there been considerable lag tonight, now I can't even log back in after the game totally froze up :( ______________________________________
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GndAdmiralThrawn
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:30:00 -
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They've taken the server offline because of it. I hope they get it fixed soon. I need MY fix!
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Karrade Krise
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: GndAdmiralThrawn They've taken the server offline because of it. I hope they get it fixed soon. I need MY fix!
Ditto
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Kushman
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:33:00 -
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yea this is rediculous, i get 2 days off a week, last day off was patch day, todays day off...nightmare lag and server down...def. money well spent 
-Kush
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:34:00 -
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It was lagging in the extream and now it wont even let me log in. It keeps saying there are possible db issues in the news window. And to quote the popup box that shows after I try to log in:
"Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number is wrong."
Well I logged in to post this just fine, am on an IM client, and was running two browsers just fine. I didn't alter the software, etc. :-P So I'm guessing there is some burb going on for Tranquility. The forums also were down briefly.
Another MMORPG I was on had a similar issue at one point from the forums, auth server and game clusters using the same DB server or something. When they switched the forums to their own seperate that helped. No idea their setup here though.
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Dash Ryder
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:39:00 -
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I just started playing for the first time like two hours ago.... This doesnt happen often does it?
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Taupaxia
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:39:00 -
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I lagged out during battle tried for an hour to log back in but i couldnt can i expect to log in tommorow and find my self dead ? if so this new subscriber will definately not be continuing his membership past the free month ...... :( Shame as you lot seem to have a decent MMORPG going on here .
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Mintoko
Nova Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Dash Ryder I just started playing for the first time like two hours ago.... This doesnt happen often does it?
Not very often, of course, they installed a massive update a few days ago and they just installed some new hardware, so these types of problems can be expected.
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Ayathula Gestaurien
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:42:00 -
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I guess the thing that irritates me the most is the complete lack of communication/information you get from CCP when there are issues.
The client is still saying "possible database issues" yeah ok... its now obviously more than "possible".
Not only that, but tying the support servers to the games servers so that when the game tanks, support is unavailable is somewhat shortsighted.
Come on CCP, get your act together.
We dont care if you dont know whats wrong... tell us you dont know, and that you're working on it. Tell us what you think is wrong, tell us your crazy ideas to fix it. We just want to know that you're as interested in getting things fixed as we are for you to get them fixed.
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Carsidava
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mintoko
Originally by: Dash Ryder I just started playing for the first time like two hours ago.... This doesnt happen often does it?
Not very often, of course, they installed a massive update a few days ago and they just installed some new hardware, so these types of problems can be expected.
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Ari Chu
Bughunter Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:43:00 -
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1) I've only played for a couple months - and no this doesn't happen often.. Sometimes get kicked off and log back on - no big deals.
2) From what I've heard/read/seen - if you get your ship blown up during things like this: definately petition it. From what I hear CCP is pretty good about replacing stuff if the loss was caused by the server or whatever.
3) Time to find some food and see if the servers are back up.
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Prolixj2
Gallente Veterans Of Liberation
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:44:00 -
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please replace the tired hamsters, that is all
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dash Ryder I just started playing for the first time like two hours ago.... This doesn't happen often does it?
No I have been playing for a little over a month. It goes down briefly for maintenance. I live in Western Canada so with the different timezones I don't really notice that maintance much. But the game can go out briefly for patches.
All MMORPGS have some downtime. Sort of a fluke as a new player you caught it.
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Raven Darkmatter
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:44:00 -
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Hope the massive lagg is fixed soon i might have lost a ship in the start of it. I would hate to see my myrm to go down in a firey blaze.
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Whip Spifter
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:45:00 -
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well in MY experience - this happens at least weekly, usually the weekends when 30k ppl are on. So, yes it is a regular occurrence - never seen it happen so often in an MMORPG with PAYING customers
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Matarsebi
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:47:00 -
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yea ive got the same problem right now. hope it gets fixed soon
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MagicMike
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:47:00 -
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Totally unacceptable for a game that you have to pay for! This type of thing has been happening a lot lately. 
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ayathula Gestaurien The client is still saying "possible database issues" yeah ok... its now obviously more than "possible".
I'm getting intermittent forum errors with the working on it message. I'd say yes they have some clue what is going on and yes probably be db. The fact it also affects the forum as well as the game, but not the auth to log in here... hmm... :-P
If it persists I'll expect the forums will bug out for a period and so will the game then both will come back up.
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Groves111
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:48:00 -
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No, this kind of thing doesn't happen very often, but it does happen. We aren't even a week out from the deployment of revs II so there are many bugs to be found and squashed that might not have been possible to test on sisi (test server) for example having 24,000 players+ logged into the same server. I'm sure the devs are working their ass off to get the cluster back up and running again.
Thanks, Groves111.
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Estoika Chonda
Gallente Kharak Confederation
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:50:00 -
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Edited by: Estoika Chonda on 24/06/2007 01:48:54 Yawn!! Now I cannot login What is going on? This is a payment game!! It would be online 24/7... there's only online 23/7 and now this...
Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong. With blood in our voices we ride, we'll fight till we win or we'll fight until we die!! |

Server
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:50:00 -
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I can't play either... and my name is Server.
I'll apologize for Tranquility...
<Tranquility> "I'm sorry but 30,000+ people make my brain throb. Please understand my trouble. Thank You."
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R3L1CUK
Caldari The Dark Angels
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:51:00 -
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would be nice of CCP to at least give everyone an update....
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Daywalker Hawk
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:52:00 -
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lets hope the server is back on soon. its now about 2-3hours since i dropped out and i lost 2 hours allready for training skills. so work fast people.
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Aravandor
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:52:00 -
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I sometimes wonder whether any of you who complain about events like this have any concept of the complexity of Eve. I run a network of about 60 machines and I know what it is like to have servers crash or databases lag. I know the feeling of almost swallowing your tongue when you're called at 2 am when a server falls apart. Give CCP some credit. They have developed a game you love to play and serve it out to 20,000+ players around the clock. This is a small miracle in itself.
Get over yourselves.
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R3L1CUK
Caldari The Dark Angels
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Estoika Chonda Edited by: Estoika Chonda on 24/06/2007 01:48:54 Yawn!! Now I cannot login What is going on? This is a payment game!! It would be online 24/7... there's only online 23/7 and now this...
Could not connect to the specified address. Odds are that you have not established an internet connection, the server isn't running, or the server address or port number was wrong.
the servers were taken down due to a possiable DB problem. they said it would be down for 20 min, and they said they would update the forums... almost 1 hour later NOTHING
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Gar Nomar
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mintoko
Originally by: Dash Ryder I just started playing for the first time like two hours ago.... This doesnt happen often does it?
Not very often, of course, they installed a massive update a few days ago and they just installed some new hardware, so these types of problems can be expected.
This has happened more in the past few months than it has in the past year before that! It seems to be every weekend now! If we all start saying "It's to be expected" then we are all just giving them permission to do the smallest amount of work needed to keep customers. Instead, we should be writing MORE regarding the horrible performance this game has experience since the WW merger and the Need for Speed initiative took place...
Downward spiral, folks!
I've paid up for the year, but if this doesn't improve, I will have wasted a year and a half of time hoping these yahoos would be able to keep this wreck moving... Gah!!! I'm so ****ed right now...
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Whip Spifter
well in MY experience - this happens at least weekly, usually the weekends when 30k ppl are on. So, yes it is a regular occurrence - never seen it happen so often in an MMORPG with PAYING customers
You don't play WoW do you? I play it and GW as well. I was on one of the new groups they brought up not long ago(EI in WoW) and it had repetitive technical problems. Different hardware on them and something quirky in the software. I said something about possible db corruption observing the forum behaviour and some other game behaviour another time. Later they switched the forums off to seperate. *shrug* Then I also have my most active characters on the servers released right for expansion and were transfer to reduce load from existing servers. Again technical issues. Finally they have calmed down but try over a week of constant problems. Older servers weren't having the same issues and were reachable at the time. GW you don't pay a monthly fee but WoW's is comparable to here.
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1337 AliP
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Posted - 2007.06.24 01:58:00 -
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If this doesn't stop I'm canceling my sub, no sense in playing this the way it is now. Currently I'm stuck in Jita and cant log in :(
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Aravandor I sometimes wonder whether any of you who complain about events like this have any concept of the complexity of Eve. I run a network of about 60 machines and I know what it is like to have servers crash or databases lag. I know the feeling of almost swallowing your tongue when you're called at 2 am when a server falls apart. Give CCP some credit. They have developed a game you love to play and serve it out to 20,000+ players around the clock. This is a small miracle in itself.
Get over yourselves.
I'm wondering how many machines they have up for this. I know it runs smoother than some of the MMORPG's I play. Btw while I haven't maintained that many machines I'm BOFH in training this fall. ;-)
They did say at one point they would have an update at some point in the forums. I'm guessing they are hovering over a box working on it and just haven't got to it.
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Ayathula Gestaurien
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:00:00 -
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Latest info is that that db issues caused a reboot, servers should be back around 02:20.
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DeadNite
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:01:00 -
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Relax people. The game will be up soon. I too, am sitting her not earning any sp or isk... so...what can we do? Nothing but wait. We pay for this game for a reason. Its a bad ass game. Period. You got to give these guys credit...a year ago we broke the 20k mark....now we are consistanly having over 30k people...on one server...at the same time. That is a marvel in itself. It you want something interesting to read...checkout the titan kill thread :P
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Snezhana Zinoviyovich
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:01:00 -
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Aravandor, I think we all appreciate the small miracle of Eve's network and systems, however the nature of capitalism is a GREAT miracle, not a small one, which allows the provisions for this game. The dollars will begin to vote if things like this keep happening. We need to let them know, that's all. . .
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Astral Fox
Gallente The Infinite Eye
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:02:00 -
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02:20 GMT - that's 03:30 my time - sheesh - I'd go to bed already but I've got 5 jetcans full of ore & a barge floating around......
Good thing I don't have to work in the morning.
**yawn**
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Prolixj2
Gallente Veterans Of Liberation
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:02:00 -
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Edited by: Prolixj2 on 24/06/2007 02:01:17 Canceling your subscription over a couple min of downtime is quite ridiculous tbh, have patience 
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Modrin
Gallente Esoteria Enterprises Stella Nova United
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:02:00 -
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Hey look, it's new content, alot of new stuff is introduced, CCP has always tried to fix things fast, and I don't know about the rest of you but I've seen faster fixes and results in this than I have much larger and more popular MMORPGs. Give it some time, CCP will fix it.
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Sylfamas
Caldari Sarmizegetusa
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:04:00 -
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i am also stuck in Jita ... have been a lot of these things lately and i don't think the 200 000 paying customers are satisfied to see this. Anyways, i hope they'll get it fixed soon. We get almost two hours downtime + the extended downtime for new servers... this is not what we can expect for paying as much as for any other MMORPG on the market... -----------------Signature-------------------------
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Benny Hill
Caldari Deceased Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gar Nomar
I've paid up for the year, but if this doesn't improve, I will have wasted a year and a half of time hoping these yahoos would be able to keep this wreck moving... Gah!!! I'm so ****ed right now...
Eve only has about 18 more months of game time. Star Trek Online next year will eat any of the new player base, and take 1/3 out of Eve.
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: DeadNite Relax people. The game will be up soon. I too, am sitting her not earning any sp or isk... so...what can we do? Nothing but wait. We pay for this game for a reason. Its a bad ass game. Period. You got to give these guys credit...a year ago we broke the 20k mark....now we are consistanly having over 30k people...on one server...at the same time. That is a marvel in itself. It you want something interesting to read...checkout the titan kill thread :P
Well plenty to do actually. Write on message boards, email, do other computer tasks, actually get out of your desk chair go to some other spot in your house and work on another hobby intrests... geez more to life than a video game. Yes we pay for it, no point in stressing out or freaking out or getting the equiv of road rage to a game. Life is > than a video game. Yes it's down, yes we want to play, it will be back up, it always is and we can always find other things to do and then check back. I know though it is more irritating to people who have very restricted play times but stuff happens pretty much sums it up.
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Karynn Carrion
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Benny Hill
Originally by: Gar Nomar
I've paid up for the year, but if this doesn't improve, I will have wasted a year and a half of time hoping these yahoos would be able to keep this wreck moving... Gah!!! I'm so ****ed right now...
Eve only has about 18 more months of game time. Star Trek Online next year will eat any of the new player base, and take 1/3 out of Eve.
Cpt Kirk don't ransom pods!
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Benny Hill Eve only has about 18 more months of game time. Star Trek Online next year will eat any of the new player base, and take 1/3 out of Eve.
Stargate SG1 will have out their MMORPG in about a year as well. However like all MMORPGS the content/storyline/playability is all a little different. So they will always grab slightly different audiences.
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Aidan LeChance
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:13:00 -
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and lotro was supposed to kill wow. Its still a growing market and honestly, there's no guarantee the star trek online game will be any good.
anyways, before the server went down i had to alt tab and close even because i was basically stuck in an endless loop fighting some weenie ship which was doing almost 0 damage to me but kept healing because of lag. whats going to happen? am i going to log on and find myself in a pod? 
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Benny Hill
Caldari Deceased Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mingmei Lien
Originally by: Benny Hill Eve only has about 18 more months of game time. Star Trek Online next year will eat any of the new player base, and take 1/3 out of Eve.
Stargate SG1 will have out their MMORPG in about a year as well. However like all MMORPGS the content/storyline/playability is all a little different. So they will always grab slightly different audiences.
That one too.
CCP never has made lag and connection issues a priority, and the dissatisfaction of that is well known with the creators of STO at least. Just read the blogs and news items of the STO development, They do play Eve, and they do watch Eve. Unless CCP radically changes Eve, and radically advertises that, the game lag may fix itself from the lack of players next year.
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Kaian Voskhod
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:14:00 -
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+ the fact that Europe players pays a lot more than other players, i say: by eve.
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DeadNite
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Snezhana Zinoviyovich Aravandor, I think we all appreciate the small miracle of Eve's network and systems, however the nature of capitalism is a GREAT miracle, not a small one, which allows the provisions for this game. The dollars will begin to vote if things like this keep happening. We need to let them know, that's all. . .
Right but thats the problem with this world. Every coproration basses policies, proceedures, and accountability on a perfect world. Which is redicous because we all know its not. So you threatening funding for something that provides you more entertainment then most other things you do at a fraction of the cost. Not to mention they are doing something that has never been done in this magnitude before...and your expecting it to be perfect. Eve is up 95% of the time.
Quit acting like you think the world is perfect and everything works like it is supost to. Especcially for a company who bends over backward for all its subscribers. No expansion cost, 95% uptime, low subscription fee, actually provides fixes and content upgrades, and hell-a-fun.
Try taking a look at it from their point of view...maybe that will help.
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MagicMike
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:19:00 -
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People who were in the middle of missions should be safe they will reset. However the people who had finished missions and were heading to loot/salvage get screwed! Losing all that loot/salvage does not sit well with me. A simple "oh we can't do anything about that" is really starting to suck! 
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Sylfamas
Caldari Sarmizegetusa
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Benny Hill
Originally by: Mingmei Lien
Originally by: Benny Hill Eve only has about 18 more months of game time. Star Trek Online next year will eat any of the new player base, and take 1/3 out of Eve.
Stargate SG1 will have out their MMORPG in about a year as well. However like all MMORPGS the content/storyline/playability is all a little different. So they will always grab slightly different audiences.
That one too.
CCP never has made lag and connection issues a priority, and the dissatisfaction of that is well known with the creators of STO at least. Just read the blogs and news items of the STO development, They do play Eve, and they do watch Eve. Unless CCP radically changes Eve, and radically advertises that, the game lag may fix itself from the lack of players next year.
Plus that in STO you can walk on stations and on ships, things that eve online only expects to release next year (the most early date, it can be in 2009) and by the time that happens, players will be so eager to walk in stations and on their own ship that they will change to STO and never return to EVE (because they will accomodate fast in that society after that)... so it's all up to CCP what move they make next  -----------------Signature-------------------------
I only have one rule: Everyone fights, no one quits. |

Benny Hill
Caldari Deceased Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: DeadNite
Quit acting like you think the world is perfect and everything works like it is supost to. Especcially for a company who bends over backward for all its subscribers. No expansion cost, 95% uptime, low subscription fee, actually provides fixes and content upgrades, and hell-a-fun.
Try taking a look at it from their point of view...maybe that will help.
Now you are being silly. Are you saying that Microsoft bends over backwards for its subscribers? I have XBox Live. low subscription, free upgrades. no expansion cost, and 100% uptime.
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Deacenter
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:20:00 -
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Quote: yea this is rediculous, i get 2 days off a week, last day off was patch day, todays day off...nightmare lag and server down...def. money well spent 
-Kush
Taupaxia Posted - 2007.06.24 01:39:00 - [7] - Quote I lagged out during battle tried for an hour to log back in but i couldnt can i expect to log in tommorow and find my self dead ? if so this new subscriber will definately not be continuing his membership past the free month ...... :( Shame as you lot seem to have a decent MMORPG going on here .
Whip Spifter Posted - 2007.06.24 01:45:00 - [15] - Quote Crying or Very sadwell in MY experience - this happens at least weekly, usually the weekends when 30k ppl are on. So, yes it is a regular occurrence - never seen it happen so often in an MMORPG with PAYING customersEvil or Very Mad
MagicMike Posted - 2007.06.24 01:47:00 - [17] - Quote Totally unacceptable for a game that you have to pay for! This type of thing has been happening a lot lately. Evil or Very Mad
Gar Nomar Posted - 2007.06.24 01:53:00 - [26] - Quote
Originally by: Mintoko
Originally by: Dash RyderI just started playing for the first time like two hours ago.... This doesnt happen often does it?
Not very often, of course, they installed a massive update a few days ago and they just installed some new hardware, so these types of problems can be expected.
This has happened more in the past few months than it has in the past year before that! It seems to be every weekend now! If we all start saying "It's to be expected" then we are all just giving them permission to do the smallest amount of work needed to keep customers. Instead, we should be writing MORE regarding the horrible performance this game has experience since the WW merger and the Need for Speed initiative took place...
Downward spiral, folks!
I've paid up for the year, but if this doesn't improve, I will have wasted a year and a half of time hoping these yahoos would be able to keep this wreck moving... Gah!!! I'm so ****ed right now...
1337 AliP Posted - 2007.06.24 01:58:00 - [31] - Quote If this doesn't stop I'm canceling my sub, no sense in playing this the way it is now. Currently I'm stuck in Jita and cant log in :(
Come on people, just because the server has a hiccup doesn't mean that the game is completely bad now. While yes we all pay and like to play the game when we can, it's still just like any other game out there. There are glitches, bugs, issues, what-have-ya in just about any software out there.
I've only been playing for a couple months. I just barely been playing MMO's for about a year. These comments made toward CCP and threatening to leave, they are really not called for. and if you think about it, if they do respond to some of your posts, it'll be in a way like putting kindling on a fire. Sometimes makes the problem worse. Soo suggest a little cooperation from some of the player and patience. It'll get resolved soon enough.
Deacenter
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JKinkaid
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:21:00 -
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It is funny... That message showed up about 15 minutes ago... 30 minutes AFTER 2:30am GMT.
I am -6 GMT which would make it 20:30 (8:30pm) my time for the servers to come up... It is now 21:20 (9:20pm) my time.
Only thing I can figure is they meant 3:30 GMT....
JKinkaid
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Matarsebi
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:22:00 -
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well looks like 2:30 now XP
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Astral Fox
Gallente The Infinite Eye
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:23:00 -
[51]
I'm certain that STO & SG1 will both be a thousand times better than Eve......until you hand over your hard-earned cash.
'The grass is always greener'.
Astral
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Marcus Smith
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:24:00 -
[52]
Originally by: MagicMike People who were in the middle of missions should be safe they will reset. However the people who had finished missions and were heading to loot/salvage get screwed! Losing all that loot/salvage does not sit well with me. A simple "oh we can't do anything about that" is really starting to suck! 
Beware of the ****ed off carebear!
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Modrin
Gallente Esoteria Enterprises Stella Nova United
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:24:00 -
[53]
Look at it as this, people who are gonna whine because of a hiccup are just gonna whine, those of us that are adults are going to know that stuff happens and we just gotta deal or move on. So how about intead of whining and falming about CCP we just wait and see what happens, it's not the end of the world people. If I can go to Iraq for a year and come back in one piece and be fine then you can live without EVE for a day, give em a chance to fix it before you cry and kick. A game and service this large and diverse isn't gonna be a fast fix.
Modrin Galactice Blue Collar Guy |

Snezhana Zinoviyovich
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:28:00 -
[54]
Originally by: DeadNite
Originally by: Snezhana Zinoviyovich Aravandor, I think we all appreciate the small miracle of Eve's network and systems, however the nature of capitalism is a GREAT miracle, not a small one, which allows the provisions for this game. The dollars will begin to vote if things like this keep happening. We need to let them know, that's all. . .
Right but thats the problem with this world. Every coproration basses policies, proceedures, and accountability on a perfect world. Which is redicous because we all know its not. So you threatening funding for something that provides you more entertainment then most other things you do at a fraction of the cost. Not to mention they are doing something that has never been done in this magnitude before...and your expecting it to be perfect. Eve is up 95% of the time.
Quit acting like you think the world is perfect and everything works like it is supost to. Especcially for a company who bends over backward for all its subscribers. No expansion cost, 95% uptime, low subscription fee, actually provides fixes and content upgrades, and hell-a-fun.
Try taking a look at it from their point of view...maybe that will help.
I'd rather look at it from an OBJECTIVE point of view DeadNite. I've already looked at it from their point of view, mine, and a few others I can imagine in the fraction of a second I allocated. This forum is to convey informatin, in this case, the experiences and needs of the subscribers, who pay the bills, to those who would privde for those needs. A healthy business would take it in stride and would thrive from constructive criticism or "feedback" from it's customers. Perhaps the most perfect world is the actual world, consider Candide. At any rate. . . I'm bored. I woke up drunk and I wanted to play and BAM whoa, it's not here. looks like I have to read or post or something. . . yay.
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Modrin
Gallente Esoteria Enterprises Stella Nova United
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:29:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Jilted Patching means patching issues, it's like this in every mmo. Devs are only human and can't forsee everything. This isn't anything new, I don't know why people are getting upset over this. Do you want the bloody patch or not. I'd rather have it and the few hours of instability that follows.
I've played mmo's for quite a while now and eve is pretty good patchwise. Just try playing WoW...
See, here's a frigging adult, deal with it people, and you know what, if you're gonna cry then please cancel your sub, that's less whiners and immature crybabies using server resources and exerting their crybaby/14 year old personality on EVE.
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DeadNite
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:29:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Dash Ryder
Originally by: Modrin Look at it as this, people who are gonna whine because of a hiccup are just gonna whine, those of us that are adults are going to know that stuff happens and we just gotta deal or move on. So how about intead of whining and falming about CCP we just wait and see what happens, it's not the end of the world people. If I can go to Iraq for a year and come back in one piece and be fine then you can live without EVE for a day, give em a chance to fix it before you cry and kick. A game and service this large and diverse isn't gonna be a fast fix.
QFT
I 2nd this
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Benny Hill
Caldari Deceased Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:29:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Deacenter
I've only been playing for a couple months. I just barely been playing MMO's for about a year. Deacenter
When its the same crap from eve for month after month for 3 years - then other games do look attractive.
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Stamin Primer
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:31:00 -
[58]
Originally by: DeadNite Relax people. The game will be up soon. I too, am sitting her not earning any sp or isk... so...what can we do? Nothing but wait. We pay for this game for a reason. Its a bad ass game. Period. You got to give these guys credit...a year ago we broke the 20k mark....now we are consistanly having over 30k people...on one server...at the same time. That is a marvel in itself. It you want something interesting to read...checkout the titan kill thread :P
actually i thought that a year ago we broke the 30k player mark but still, we do have to give them some credit for trying to fix any bugs or issues that that the game has had.
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New Hampshire
Caldari Antares Frontier The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:32:00 -
[59]
Saturdays are busy days for Eve. This is the first Saturday following the latest patch. Even though the game has crashed, the patch was a good thing and the crash is an unfortunate technical glitch that CCP will work out. There are valid reasons to criticize CCP, but this crash is not one of those reasons.
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Daywalker Hawk
Caldari Haluter-Gilde
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:32:00 -
[60]
funny first restart was at 02:20GMT then 02:30GMT now its 02:45GMT but server is booting up.
well but i see it like most of the people rev2 was some step and bugs are normal just give them some time to solve things up so we can play.
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Prolixj2
Gallente Veterans Of Liberation
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:33:00 -
[61]
</whining> anyone??
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:33:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Astral Fox I'm certain that STO & SG1 will both be a thousand times better than Eve......until you hand over your hard-earned cash.
'The grass is always greener'.
Astral
I don't expect SG1 to be better. I expect it to frankly be buggy on first release and test. The concept art and tests art is amazing though. I have seem some of the show props(it is filmed near me, there was a prop sale not too long ago, and someone I knew that worked fx). Anyways I like the show and egyptian looking stuff so that is my draw to it. I am likely to buy and play it. But it will be a different experience than Eve or the other MMORPGS I've tried or play. While it looks neat if it fails on playability I will dump playing it no matter how cool it looks. Which is why I don't play GW much as I didn't like the feel of it quite the same as the others I play. I haven't tried LOTR though know people that did switch to it.
Some could move, some could play both. But new games always will have bugs and also at the same time an amount of flash. All MMORPGS have to deal with downtime, patches, and equipment changes. It is a learning experience for those that create the games and those that maintain the machines they run on. But also there is no such thing as instant gratification. In any job or part of life stuff happens and sometimes it isn't a quick fix and is frustrating for all parties. Other times things run smooth and go great and everyone cheers it on.
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Deacenter
Gallente Alchemy Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:37:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Benny Hill
Originally by: Deacenter
I've only been playing for a couple months. I just barely been playing MMO's for about a year. Deacenter
When its the same crap from eve for month after month for 3 years - then other games do look attractive.
I assure you other games will encounter problems similar to these here.
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Matarsebi
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:39:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Jilted Patching means patching issues, it's like this in every mmo. Devs are only human and can't forsee everything. This isn't anything new, I don't know why people are getting upset over this. Do you want the bloody patch or not. I'd rather have it and the few hours of instability that follows.
I've played mmo's for quite a while now and eve is pretty good patchwise. Just try playing WoW...
omg i soooo agree
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Snezhana Zinoviyovich
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:40:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Modrin Look at it as this, people who are gonna whine because of a hiccup are just gonna whine, those of us that are adults are going to know that stuff happens and we just gotta deal or move on. So how about intead of whining and falming about CCP we just wait and see what happens, it's not the end of the world people. If I can go to Iraq for a year and come back in one piece and be fine then you can live without EVE for a day, give em a chance to fix it before you cry and kick. A game and service this large and diverse isn't gonna be a fast fix.
But don't forget about those Joes and Janes who come back from a mission and they can't drink alchohol, they can't have sex, they're too tired to hit the gym or even play pool at the local MWR, but they've paid 1500 bucks for their squad to get hajinet and they love eve because of the protection from disconnects. Joe or Jane flops down on that cot with a pad on it turns to the side and flicks the computer to get their fix and a little bit of escape in the form of EVE (online) but it's not there. . . so they gotta suck it up and deal with it. but do you want them to have to deal with it? that's the story of their life though. it's always surving up an (expletive deleted) sandwich
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Xiao Lu
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:41:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Astral Fox 02:20 GMT - that's 03:30 my time - sheesh - I'd go to bed already but I've got 5 jetcans full of ore & a barge floating around......
Good thing I don't have to work in the morning.
**yawn**
Astral.
Where are you? When the server comes back, I'll 'help' you with that ore...
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Ackbizzle
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:47:00 -
[67]
so now its jumping back and forth between 0245 and 0300 since its 0246 im gonna go with 0300
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Daywalker Hawk
Caldari Haluter-Gilde
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:49:00 -
[68]
so now reboot is planned at 03:00GMT....
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Deacenter
Gallente Alchemy Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:50:00 -
[69]
Technically the reboot is still in progress. started when the servers went offline.
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Thanneher
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:52:00 -
[70]
I think CPP should compensate us with one mill SP for the problems  
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Valkerias
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:52:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Valkerias on 24/06/2007 02:51:18 Ok. This is new, aura says "conecting" and then I see a connect failed error message. "Starting up..(0 sec)" Is this normal now?
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Zanpt
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:52:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Aravandor I sometimes wonder whether any of you who complain about events like this have any concept of the complexity of Eve. I run a network of about 60 machines and I know what it is like to have servers crash or databases lag. I know the feeling of almost swallowing your tongue when you're called at 2 am when a server falls apart. Give CCP some credit. They have developed a game you love to play and serve it out to 20,000+ players around the clock. This is a small miracle in itself.
Get over yourselves.
I sometimes wonder whether any of you apologists have any concept that the world is filled with systems much larger and more complex than Eve that run without any of the problems Eve exhibits. Think of the computers and networks that provide you with banking services, credit card services, brokerage services, securities market trading services, plus of course all the very large websites that seem to just always work... amazon.com, etc.
Suppose your bank were to lose $1,000 of your money. Would you be making all these excuses for your bank?
60 machines, eh? Wow. I used to develop OS and communication software and have a hand in the operations for a financial services firm and was Mgr of Systems & Programming at the central site. We served a network of about 7,000 machines and 70,000 terminals. We were allowed ZERO errors and ZERO downtime because 60% of the brokerage and investment community of the U.S. was dependent on our service. If we had failed, exchanges would have had to stop trading.
The problem here is that CCP doesn't understand "mission critical," and neither, apparently, do you.
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Xiao Lu
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:52:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Benny Hill
Originally by: Deacenter
I've only been playing for a couple months. I just barely been playing MMO's for about a year. Deacenter
When its the same crap from eve for month after month for 3 years - then other games do look attractive.
Except that they're the same, too. It's inherent to the nature of MMO's. What do you expect, when the entire game exists on a server. If you have issues with it, pick up a single player game.
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Kyliah Dreyden
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:53:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Whip Spifter [...] never seen it happen so often in an MMORPG with PAYING customers
You've obviously never played City of Heroes. :P
This isn't all that bad. I know, it is annoying. VERY annoying at times. I was in the middle of combat when the lag hit. But you know what? The biggest problem with any game run through technology and distributed world-wide is that something will ALWAYS go wrong.
As for it happening weekly... that wouldn't happen to coincide with them taking things down for regular maintenance, would it? "Voila! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vaca |

Deacenter
Gallente Alchemy Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:54:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Zanpt
Originally by: Aravandor I sometimes wonder whether any of you who complain about events like this have any concept of the complexity of Eve. I run a network of about 60 machines and I know what it is like to have servers crash or databases lag. I know the feeling of almost swallowing your tongue when you're called at 2 am when a server falls apart. Give CCP some credit. They have developed a game you love to play and serve it out to 20,000+ players around the clock. This is a small miracle in itself.
Get over yourselves.
I sometimes wonder whether any of you apologists have any concept that the world is filled with systems much larger and more complex than Eve that run without any of the problems Eve exhibits. Think of the computers and networks that provide you with banking services, credit card services, brokerage services, securities market trading services, plus of course all the very large websites that seem to just always work... amazon.com, etc.
Suppose your bank were to lose $1,000 of your money. Would you be making all these excuses for your bank?
60 machines, eh? Wow. I used to develop OS and communication software and have a hand in the operations for a financial services firm and was Mgr of Systems & Programming at the central site. We served a network of about 7,000 machines and 70,000 terminals. We were allowed ZERO errors and ZERO downtime because 60% of the brokerage and investment community of the U.S. was dependent on our service. If we had failed, exchanges would have had to stop trading.
The problem here is that CCP doesn't understand "mission critical," and neither, apparently, do you.
It's just software. Thoes big networks you've seen probably had their share of problem too in the past. just takes a little working of them to get them all working correctly.
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Zanpt
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:56:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Gar Nomar I've paid up for the year, but if this doesn't improve, I will have wasted a year and a half of time hoping these yahoos would be able to keep this wreck moving... Gah!!! I'm so ****ed right now...
That's why I keep CCP on a very short leash -- 30-day Game Time Codes. If they really annoy me or deny a petition I think they should have reimbursed, I take it directly out of their revenue stream by allowing anywhere from one to nine accounts expire and stay expired for a while. I am the plaintiff, the judge, and I levy and collect the fines. There is no appeal.
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Astral Fox
Gallente The Infinite Eye
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Posted - 2007.06.24 02:56:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Xiao Lu
Originally by: Astral Fox 02:20 GMT - that's 03:30 my time - sheesh - I'd go to bed already but I've got 5 jetcans full of ore & a barge floating around......
Good thing I don't have to work in the morning.
**yawn**
Astral.
Where are you? When the server comes back, I'll 'help' you with that ore...
lol Xiao - I'm in Curse - MDD-79 - come on down - you're welcome......
Astral |

Aerzaal
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:00:00 -
[78]
Ok, They're nearly done, but I don't think they can tell time. They have startup time at 3:00 am GMT, which by my clock, was about an hour ago, unless there's another GMT I don't know about and i don't really live in the timezone I thought I did.
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Kyliah Dreyden
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:02:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Aerzaal Ok, They're nearly done, but I don't think they can tell time. They have startup time at 3:00 am GMT, which by my clock, was about an hour ago, unless there's another GMT I don't know about and i don't really live in the timezone I thought I did.
I think your daylight savings time hour is a little off, hon. :) It's just now 3 AM, but if you look, they've updated it to 3:25 :D ----------- "Voila! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate." |

tarin adur
Gallente Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:02:00 -
[80]
3:25 GMT now
Notice they skipped 25 minutes this time.
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trHollywood
Caldari NORTHWEST SOCIAL CLUB
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:05:00 -
[81]
i would still rather be playing earth and beyond. you know how every one alwase says there is not I in team. well i say of course not there is onle ME. |

Aerzaal
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:07:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Aerzaal on 24/06/2007 03:06:54 Hey! Whad'ya know, there are two GMT's under the clock time zone tab. so, 20 minutes...
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Deacenter
Gallente Alchemy Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:08:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Deacenter on 24/06/2007 03:08:20 Edited by: Deacenter on 24/06/2007 03:07:46 Nvm answered my question
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Mingmei Lien
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:15:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Zanpt We served a network of about 7,000 machines and 70,000 terminals. We were allowed ZERO errors and ZERO downtime because 60% of the brokerage and investment community of the U.S. was dependent on our service. If we had failed, exchanges would have had to stop trading.
Live update process or you have secondary systems to switch over? I don't know if these gaming systems operate with such. WoW only recently implemented a live update system. Though for some reason they still also continue with a downtime every tuesday. Not sure how many machines they fully run though. But I wondered who the heck it was that did the "accidental" reboot of the cluster that one time.
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Laecedamion
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:20:00 -
[85]
Man, this is too bad, my day off I thought I'd download the trial and check it out. I played it for a couple of hours and really got into to [first mmo I've ever played]. Now I was gonna sit down with a Heineken but... alas... the server's down :'(
I think some of you guys are overreacting a little bit. I was laughing at the guy that was comparing it to a banking system. I don't think Eve has that kind of funding and infrastructure. It's like comparing mall cops to US Special Forces.
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Aravandor
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:21:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Zanpt I sometimes wonder whether any of you apologists have any concept that the world is filled with systems much larger and more complex than Eve that run without any of the problems Eve exhibits...
The problem here is that CCP doesn't understand "mission critical," and neither, apparently, do you.
Clearly you're a person of supreme intellect and you're right Zanpt, banking systems never have glitches or problems. In fact, I'm certain that you never make mistakes. If only eve could be run by infallible developers such as yourself Eve would be perfect. I cringe to imagine the apocalypse that would occur to the global economy should you make a typo.
Please alert CCP to your excellence so they can consult with you deliver us all from these issues!
Unfortunately, as a mere mortal, I find it necessary to allow companies and individuals a little room to be human and make mistakes from time to time.
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Deacenter
Gallente Alchemy Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:22:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Aravandor
Originally by: Zanpt I sometimes wonder whether any of you apologists have any concept that the world is filled with systems much larger and more complex than Eve that run without any of the problems Eve exhibits...
The problem here is that CCP doesn't understand "mission critical," and neither, apparently, do you.
Clearly you're a person of supreme intellect and you're right Zanpt, banking systems never have glitches or problems. In fact, I'm certain that you never make mistakes. If only eve could be run by infallible developers such as yourself Eve would be perfect. I cringe to imagine the apocalypse that would occur to the global economy should you make a typo.
Please alert CCP to your excellence so they can consult with you deliver us all from these issues!
Unfortunately, as a mere mortal, I find it necessary to allow companies and individuals a little room to be human and make mistakes from time to time.
Amen to that. Imperfection FTW! :)
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Rauth Kivaro
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:22:00 -
[88]
Please use the existing thread here in EVE General to discuss the server outage issues. The developers and DB admins are monitoring and posting to the thread to keep the community up to date.
Locking this topic. *click*
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Snezhana Zinoviyovich
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Posted - 2007.06.24 03:29:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Zanpt
Originally by: Aravandor I sometimes wonder whether any of you who complain about events like this have any concept of the complexity of Eve. I run a network of about 60 machines and I know what it is like to have servers crash or databases lag. I know the feeling of almost swallowing your tongue when you're called at 2 am when a server falls apart. Give CCP some credit. They have developed a game you love to play and serve it out to 20,000+ players around the clock. This is a small miracle in itself.
Get over yourselves.
I sometimes wonder whether any of you apologists have any concept that the world is filled with systems much larger and more complex than Eve that run without any of the problems Eve exhibits. Think of the computers and networks that provide you with banking services, credit card services, brokerage services, securities market trading services, plus of course all the very large websites that seem to just always work... amazon.com, etc.
Suppose your bank were to lose $1,000 of your money. Would you be making all these excuses for your bank?
60 machines, eh? Wow. I used to develop OS and communication software and have a hand in the operations for a financial services firm and was Mgr of Systems & Programming at the central site. We served a network of about 7,000 machines and 70,000 terminals. We were allowed ZERO errors and ZERO downtime because 60% of the brokerage and investment community of the U.S. was dependent on our service. If we had failed, exchanges would have had to stop trading.
The problem here is that CCP doesn't understand "mission critical," and neither, apparently, do you.
So what was your personal reaction when the president said that no matter what the systems would be back up the thursday after the Verizon system was destroyed back on 9/11?
With a monthly gross of almost 3 million USD You'd think that they could make a 60 machine system work without any glitches, I'm sure there are redundancy options they have simply chosen not to implement.
And speaking of redundancy has the Exchange set up an exchange emergency operations center in case of future threats?
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