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Daryl Zorg
Taggart Transdimensional
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:04:00 -
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Hi
After reading 2 hudge topics about that Titan kill i finally took some time to actually go down to 46dp and look at that Titan wreck. But there is none! I flew to all gates there and i just don't see it.
Never actually seen a Titan close so i don't know, but a Titan is supposed to be big, right?
Is it too far from the gate to see it, or at some safespot? Nync and Molle can't be lying, so where is it?
Sorry if i am just to dumb to find it.
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TJ17
Gallente Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:05:00 -
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its been salvaged also ccp didnt put a memorial there
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Jin Steele
Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:05:00 -
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they are not permanent. yet. _________________________________________________________
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Daryl Zorg
Taggart Transdimensional
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: TJ17 its been salvaged also ccp didnt put a memorial there
Why the hell not??? Is there ever going to be a memorial? My alt is still in 46dp. Kinda hoped for a few screenshots...
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:20:00 -
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Where's the memorial, CCP?
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer Proud member of the Customer Service Coalition. |

Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:22:00 -
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We want a CCP dev to congratulate the killers officially. Just as the other guys were. :)
EVE Online - Pirates ORANGE OF RAINBOW |

violator2k5
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:30:00 -
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i believe they have bigger things to deal with atm and will get round to it when they can ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
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Third Down
Hard Rock Cafe
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:36:00 -
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Only kills *by* BoB get a memorial and congratulations from Admiral Whatshisjar, duh.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.06.25 02:42:00 -
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I hope they decide not to do monuments or EVE will be plastered wth them within a year or two.
Originally by: CCP kieron If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Daryl Zorg
Taggart Transdimensional
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Posted - 2007.06.25 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Namingway I hope they decide not to do monuments or EVE will be plastered wth them within a year or two.
Heh, a Titan graveyard in RA space would be cool. More player made EVE-history to show to your friends. :)
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Sebesto
Minmatar Destination Unknown
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Posted - 2007.06.25 03:30:00 -
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Edited by: Sebesto on 25/06/2007 03:28:56
Originally by: violator2k5 i believe they have bigger things to deal with atm and will get round to it when they can
I guess they only rush to the site to put a monument up when there is no pilot at the helm of the titan. But I guess you might be right, back when the other titans were destroyed they weren't working on any type of content improvements to the client/game. 
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Comstr
Technology Acquisition Collective Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.25 03:48:00 -
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I can understand not reporting it the day it happened, it was night time(?) in Iceland etc.
But to see 2 news reports about a completely insignificant caldari riot and NOT have a news report about a Titan going down is complete incompetence on CCP's part. They SELL the game on the Titans (see last weeks trailer video) and totally fail to mention, little lone congratulate or mark, an epic fall of one of the 6 largest and single ships in the game!
If a BoB Titan falls in the darkness, do the gods care?
Perhaps it's being held over for an...exclusive on EvE-TV.
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: violator2k5 i believe they have bigger things to deal with atm and will get round to it when they can
like heat.
woo.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.25 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Comstr But to see 2 news reports about a completely insignificant caldari riot and NOT have a news report about a Titan going down is complete incompetence on CCP's part.
I don't think BoB want to promote BoB's titan loss. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes. Also, don't troll by using another alliance's logo. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Comstr But to see 2 news reports about a completely insignificant caldari riot and NOT have a news report about a Titan going down is complete incompetence on CCP's part.
I don't think BoB want to promote BoB's titan loss.
Oh hey I see you've insinuated that bob and CCP and/or ISD are one in the same thats a bold new statement you have there hydrosan do you have any proof to back up your completely original and outlandish claim
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.06.25 05:43:00 -
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One of my worries when playing Eve is that the creators, Some members of CCP are still Biased towards one group of Players (BOB). 
Yeah, I know that there are few unbiased Devs that's trying their best and honestly not trying to smear their Company's reputation. Cheers to them 
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Daryl Zorg
Taggart Transdimensional
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Posted - 2007.06.25 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: Daryl Zorg on 25/06/2007 05:58:28 Has there been any legal reason given for the delay or unwillingness to insert that wreck into the game?
So what it was late night for CCP, they could have read the logs and inserted that wreck the next morning, or not?
Well whatever, like the saying goes: "Where there is a will, there is a way!"
Waiting for that wreck to appear soon... i see no reason for it not to.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.06.25 06:18:00 -
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Thread cleaned for a few trolling attempts and accusations of foul play. I'll forward this matter up the chain of command and try to get some attention to the matter; I'll leave the thread open for the time being since it's a valid request and a matter of importance for the community, but we will be watching the thread closely, and any attempts at accusations and/or blantant trolling will be dealt with accordingly - consider yourselves warned.
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Coupo
Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2007.06.25 06:18:00 -
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Im sure the first titan was "stickied" because it was the first. I spose it would be nice that every titan was made into a monument. Mind you the rate titans are being spewed out eventually who will care.
I Shoot first, ask questions about your veldspar mining technique later |

Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.06.25 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sebesto Edited by: Sebesto on 25/06/2007 03:28:56
Originally by: violator2k5 i believe they have bigger things to deal with atm and will get round to it when they can
I guess they only rush to the site to put a monument up when there is no pilot at the helm of the titan. But I guess you might be right, back when the other titans were destroyed they weren't working on any type of content improvements to the client/game. 
Or maybe CCP feels that Cyvok's Titan was the first legitimate lose as it was killed with an agro timer and therefore decided to erect a monument to the first player built, owned, and operated titan loss in the game.
But hey, perhaps your tinfil hat is on too tight and you think that it is a memorial because BoB killed it right?
Get a freaking grip.
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George Petsch
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 07:27:00 -
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Edited by: George Petsch on 25/06/2007 07:26:06
Originally by: Ander We want a CCP dev to congratulate the killers officially. Just as the other guys were. :)
Ok, so we need:
1)A person Sometimes i write small powershell scripts to do stuff in my office, guess that qualifies me as a dev. CHECK
2) Some authenticity I have bad grammar too CHECK
Here we go, I'll try to mimic the original as best as possible:
CONGRAGS TO ALL ENVOLVED! 
can we please let it die now? 
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Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.25 07:41:00 -
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I thought it required a patch to insert the wreck? __________
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Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
Originally by: Sebesto Edited by: Sebesto on 25/06/2007 03:28:56
Originally by: violator2k5 i believe they have bigger things to deal with atm and will get round to it when they can
I guess they only rush to the site to put a monument up when there is no pilot at the helm of the titan. But I guess you might be right, back when the other titans were destroyed they weren't working on any type of content improvements to the client/game. 
Or maybe CCP feels that Cyvok's Titan was the first legitimate lose as it was killed with an agro timer and therefore decided to erect a monument to the first player built, owned, and operated titan loss in the game.
But hey, perhaps your tinfil hat is on too tight and you think that it is a memorial because BoB killed it right?
Get a freaking grip.
Both the ASCN and D2 Titan losses had an official congratulations to BoB from CCP within seconds of going down, and both times BoB were told that the places where a Titan was killed would have a monument erected in their places.
Two days later after the first Titan kill with the pilot actually logged on and not a single peep from CCP. Oh well. I seem to recall much of the CCP staff having the weekend off so maybe they'll respond tomorrow or Tuesday. If they don't respond by this time next week a lot of people are going to be pretty angry, especially with this being the first 'intended' death of a Titan - in the heat of battle. (I can't use the word 'legitimate' because I'll get a bunch of angry comments from BoB members)
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Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 07:53:00 -
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Oh hey, speak of the devil: CCP just responded to the Titan kill. Check out the login screen.
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Corwain
Gallente Zero Team
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Posted - 2007.06.25 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ander We want a CCP dev to congratulate the killers officially. Just as the other guys were. :)
BoB have said gf haven't they? 
Just kidding! 
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mr bighelmet
EnTech Pax Familia
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:00:00 -
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If i remember right the second Titan took about 2 weeks to get monument If i post something smart it represent my corp and alliance all other posts are my feeling/ideas only and do not represnt the rest |

Danthomir
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:04:00 -
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Tinfoil and hatin' aside, space is pretty damn empty. I really hope this titan kill gets monumented, because it's the only one that's visible and not 1000km off some godforsaken moon... |

Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: mr bighelmet If i remember right the second Titan took about 2 weeks to get monument
As far as I know Titan monuments are planned for a 'future patch', as I haven't actually seen anyone mention visiting one.
If they're actually in the game now maybe I'll take a trip to Feyth and check out Steve.
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Nagato Both the ASCN and D2 Titan losses had an official congratulations to BoB from CCP within seconds of going down, and both times BoB were told that the places where a Titan was killed would have a monument erected in their places.
Two days later after the first Titan kill with the pilot actually logged on and not a single peep from CCP. Oh well. I seem to recall much of the CCP staff having the weekend off so maybe they'll respond tomorrow or Tuesday. If they don't respond by this time next week a lot of people are going to be pretty angry, especially with this being the first 'intended' death of a Titan - in the heat of battle. (I can't use the word 'legitimate' because I'll get a bunch of angry comments from BoB members)
Shut up and get out. No one likes you. Stop making poorly veiled threats about how angry we're going to be if we don't get an internet trophy to show how cool we are. I'm fairly certain you're the only one that cares. You're going to respond to this with a "lol trolled" but it won't take because this is the exact kind of post you've been making for the year you've been playing and the only difference between then and now is that you make some halfassed attempt to save face by saying "lol trolled" after someone calls you out on how idiotic you look. Get out of the corp, quit eve, quit irl forever
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Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Alias11 Shut up and get out. No one likes you. Stop making poorly veiled threats about how angry we're going to be if we don't get an internet trophy to show how cool we are. I'm fairly certain you're the only one that cares. You're going to respond to this with a "lol trolled" but it won't take because this is the exact kind of post you've been making for the year you've been playing and the only difference between then and now is that you make some halfassed attempt to save face by saying "lol trolled" after someone calls you out on how idiotic you look. Get out of the corp, quit eve, quit irl forever
I'm not going to be angry - I just think a monumental wreck would be pretty damn cool to have so close to home. And hey, CCP has been promising monuments for almost a year now, so it's not like it's going to get added anytime soon.
And CCP just responded to the Titan kill so I'm not really seeing the point of this, aside from the fact you hate me so much you're willing to take it out of our own forums and start crap here of all places. I thought you hated EVE-O?
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Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Yuki Nagato I'm not going to be angry
Originally by: Yuki Nagato a lot of people are going to be pretty angry
My hatred of you can not be bound to a single forum
Man I don't know what to say. Maybe I should start packing heat??? Get a bodyguard???????????????????????
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Tetsujin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:34:00 -
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Goonswarm members publically expressing their hatred for eachother is one of the things that binds us all together. 
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Nagato
Two days later after the first Titan kill with the pilot actually logged on and not a single peep from CCP. Oh well. I seem to recall much of the CCP staff having the weekend off so maybe they'll respond tomorrow or Tuesday. If they don't respond by this time next week a lot of people are going to be pretty angry, especially with this being the first 'intended' death of a Titan - in the heat of battle. (I can't use the word 'legitimate' because I'll get a bunch of angry comments from BoB members)
Are you planning another threadnaught?
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Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
Are you planning another threadnaught?
No. I was actually referring to the first page with the people who scream about favouritism every time a single employee of CCP sneezes. (like Sebesto)
I got pretty tired of the CCP hate a while ago.
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Daryl Zorg
Taggart Transdimensional
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:48:00 -
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Still we probably should stay on topic...
Originally by: Yuki Nagato Oh hey, speak of the devil: CCP just responded to the Titan kill. Check out the login screen.
Still no wreck or monument, but it seems that CCP is working on it. At least the backstory is available and that is the only time consuming thing.
I imagine that having such a sign at your alliances space boarder is something to be proud about. :)
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Homer Greyt
H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Daryl Zorg Still we probably should stay on topic...
Originally by: Yuki Nagato Oh hey, speak of the devil: CCP just responded to the Titan kill. Check out the login screen.
Still no wreck or monument, but it seems that CCP is working on it. At least the backstory is available and that is the only time consuming thing.
I imagine that having such a sign at your alliances space boarder is something to be proud about. :)
Yeah! It should say: "Beware! Here be Dragons!!!" ________ Let's dance! |

Jaakar Eldaris
Caldari Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:53:00 -
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I think the whole "first legitimate kill of titan" thing is a big ******** bandwagon. When you log off with aggression you have a 15 minute timer before your ship disappears. Killing a ship with a logged off pilot within that 15 minutes is perfectly legitimate.
I suppose if a titan pilot jumps into 20 goon/RA/buddies gets aggression and then logs and warps out you guys probably wouldn't bother scanning it down and killing it because the kill wouldn't be "legitimate." Give me a break.
If anything this is the first titan kill where the pilot wasn't a complete moron for logging off with aggression.
The high horses people.
Get off of them.
You're freakin Goonswarm after all.
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Ryouko Asakura
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Nagato I'm not going to be angry
You wouldn't like her when she's angry. 
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.06.25 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Homer Greyt
I imagine that having such a sign at your alliances space boarder is something to be proud about. :)
HAHAHA Their border is quite a bit east of 46dp. That is in the middle of the newest GBC residence.
To the goon that responded to my question, You scare me, you answered without smack and with maturity, are you sure the swarm is the right spot for you? Not a troll, just a joke.
Cheers
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Dr Qu
Caldari The Renegade Order Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.25 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Qu on 25/06/2007 08:59:45 Argh. Ignore
:: "In hullintegrity we trust" :: |
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
Originally by: Homer Greyt
I imagine that having such a sign at your alliances space boarder is something to be proud about. :)
HAHAHA Their border is quite a bit east of 46dp. That is in the middle of the newest GBC residence.
To the goon that responded to my question, You scare me, you answered without smack and with maturity, are you sure the swarm is the right spot for you? Not a troll, just a joke.
Cheers
No it's not get him the hell out of here. not a troll, not a joke, get him out of here
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Boliknar
The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: violator2k5 i believe they have bigger things to deal with atm and will get round to it when they can
Funny how they were in local 5 min after the D2 kill suckin BoBs Balls and the memorial was up the next day...
Oh well to be expected huh?
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.06.25 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
Originally by: Homer Greyt
I imagine that having such a sign at your alliances space boarder is something to be proud about. :)
HAHAHA Their border is quite a bit east of 46dp. That is in the middle of the newest GBC residence.
To the goon that responded to my question, You scare me, you answered without smack and with maturity, are you sure the swarm is the right spot for you? Not a troll, just a joke.
Cheers
No it's not get him the hell out of here. not a troll, not a joke, get him out of here
Have you, by any chance, been puffing the magic dragon?
Words should go together in a certain pattern to make sence.
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Cringeley
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Adm Tecumseh Not a troll, just a joke.
Well if you say so, who am I to argue, but personally I would have said you were a troll.
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.06.25 09:57:00 -
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And your comments on this are what exactly? I made specific comments to a specific pilot who showed the maturity and intelect to be able to deduce the difference. They were not directed at you for the obvious reasons. You lack both.
Fly Safe Enjoy your sugar high, I am confident that it will be short lived.
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Saul Reaver
UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 10:06:00 -
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I think it only be fair that there should be a monument of the "Shrike Avatar Wreck". Although i am part of "The Alliance" i think that it is only fair that All titan wrecks should be turned into a monument after a Titan kill has been made.
This is only my personal view on the subject and does not reflect the opinions of my Corp/Alliance.
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Moishe Rothschild
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 10:07:00 -
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Edited by: Moishe Rothschild on 25/06/2007 10:10:22
Originally by: Jaakar Eldaris I think the whole "first legitimate kill of titan" thing is a big ******** bandwagon. When you log off with aggression you have a 15 minute timer before your ship disappears. Killing a ship with a logged off pilot within that 15 minutes is perfectly legitimate.
I suppose if a titan pilot jumps into 20 goon/RA/buddies gets aggression and then logs and warps out you guys probably wouldn't bother scanning it down and killing it because the kill wouldn't be "legitimate." Give me a break.
If anything this is the first titan kill where the pilot wasn't a complete moron for logging off with aggression.
The high horses people.
Get off of them.
You're freakin Goonswarm after all.
Those aggression timers included:
1. BoB shooting a wreck of CYVOK's right as he logged out.
2. A BoB spy Covops micro-smartbombing Wotankn as he logged out and emergency warped.
They had no knowledge of their aggression timers. But I guess in your opinion they should log on every 5 minutes to check right? You should probably get off of your uninformed horse.
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.06.25 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 25/06/2007 10:49:11
Originally by: Moishe Rothschild
Those aggression timers included:
1. BoB shooting a wreck of CYVOK's right as he logged out.
2. A BoB spy Covops micro-smartbombing Wotankn as he logged out and emergency warped.
They had no knowledge of their aggression timers. But I guess in your opinion they should log on every 5 minutes to check right? You should probably get off of your uninformed horse.
Here is a stellar example of speaking with mouth full and head empty.
Let me just say that I have heard 3 different excuses about why cyvok died. All three from Cyvok himself. Reading ASCN forums 4tw.
His immediate response was that there was a power outage that caused the disconnect. Then that story morphed and then morphed again to the one that the Goons love the most. The one that showes bob to be the enmy of all that is good in the world. They shot one of his wrecks blah blah blah.
Why is it that you guys over there hate bob so much that your willing to get banned just to say how much you hate them?
I mean all that threadnaught crap about dev's breaking into Pryrex's corp, Sharkbait, and the msn thing etc. You guys are so blinded by your hate that you will stop at nothing to show the world how much ***** is in your mouths.
I agree that killing the titan was an incredible feat but to come in here and smack in Molle's post about it shows poor taste and complete immaturity. You continue to call them cheats while every audit showes that no cheating happened except for the t20 thing which had absolutly nothing to do with you and only effected a couple people.
Why not enjoy your accomplishments and play the game?
I hate the goons but I hate them for the reasons I have described, the real tangible reasons, not the reasons that are fabricated on scrapeheap.
Anyway again good job, I can't wait to see the monument, you guys earned it.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.25 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Moishe Rothschild Those aggression timers included:
1. BoB shooting a wreck of CYVOK's right as he logged out.
2. A BoB spy Covops micro-smartbombing Wotankn as he logged out and emergency warped.
They had no knowledge of their aggression timers. But I guess in your opinion they should log on every 5 minutes to check right? You should probably get off of your uninformed horse.
1. CYVOK attacked and killed Slender Breanda with a doomsday then he logged off before agression timer ran out. There was no "Shooting of a Wreck" to keep him aggro, and quite frankly, if this was the case, he would have had his titan reimbursed. Actually, the wreck bug did not exist back then so thats your argument nulified.
2. Wotakn got microsmartbombed just before he logged, and according to a screenshot, he logged back in as he was getting pounded (he was in local) then logged off again.
Either way, the main issue has been that these players have been almost impossible to kill pre rev II patch because they were almost never on the front lines, and spent most of the time in or around pos's. In both cases, both pilots were shot while logged in, and I could argue that wotaken logged in while being shot, but to be honest, we all know that his titan loss could have been prevented with a bit of security.
What I like about Rev II is that now these ships can be taken down. Now its the real test of balls to see who uses them on the front line given the changes. --
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.25 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Daryl Zorg
Originally by: TJ17 its been salvaged also ccp didnt put a memorial there
Why the hell not??? Is there ever going to be a memorial? My alt is still in 46dp. Kinda hoped for a few screenshots...
It takes a patch and the creation of a custom object. The ASCN memorial took a few months. -----
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.25 11:01:00 -
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there should be a memorial for every titan IMO, its not an ordinary ship and they will never be dying every week.
and lol at all the muppets suggesting some sort of CCP bias over this, just lol :)
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atrophocy
Last Serenity The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.06.25 11:07:00 -
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i was down there today, no "official" memorial but goons hadn't hesitated to put up their own memorials, i didnt get much time to read what they said though cos my overview rapidly filling up with reds, though i dare say i'n probably lucky i didnt have time to read em.
would be nice to see a permanent memorial there in due course. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1226/sigcopylb5.jpg
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Civrax
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 11:17:00 -
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Titan wrecks, scattered across the universe, is pretty cool. Can we just leave the 'legitimacy' trolling, flame baiting and all that other nonsense out of this thread and just bring a spotlight to the issue?
Having titan wrecks near gates and main celestial objects is an awesome element and one which really allows CCP to push their game as player driven. Where else can you find permanent fixtures of player wars and major conflicts: nowhere (or at least to my knowledge). While this issue seems to be dead, to the extent that titan wrecks take patches to position in-game, I just want to put that out there. It is very cool to see things like this.
I'm quite anticipating the wreck so I can fly a little frigate along the side just to get a real size comparison. Who knows, maybe one of those same newbee's may just decloak one of those behemoth's again and we'll have to go through this all over again!
Serious Question: I was told SirMolle/DigitalCommunist was writing up a BoB battlereport for their side: I'm wondering where I could find that, if it was published yet. Thanks.
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.25 11:19:00 -
[54]
It is weird that a GM shows right after the other 2 were killed but CCP doesn't even blink for this kill. Why not?
I RA and GOONs should make some MSN contacts like DB Preacher keeps boasting about.
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Ling Xiao
Prism Project Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.25 11:22:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Ling Xiao on 25/06/2007 11:21:34
Originally by: Civrax Where else can you find permanent fixtures of player wars and major conflicts: nowhere (or at least to my knowledge). While this issue seems to be dead, to the extent that titan wrecks take patches to position in-game, I just want to put that out there. It is very cool to see things like this.
Certainly is, although it's not a new thing for Eve - ever since Outposts were made available, large alliances have been leaving their industrial legacies around 0.0 space. Tenerifis for example was a pretty crappy region before its various station deployments. The alliance that put them there is dead, but their work remains. __________
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Mogrin
Caldari Spartan Fleet Systems
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Posted - 2007.06.25 11:38:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Mogrin on 25/06/2007 11:39:49
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Moishe Rothschild Those aggression timers included:
1. BoB shooting a wreck of CYVOK's right as he logged out.
2. A BoB spy Covops micro-smartbombing Wotankn as he logged out and emergency warped.
They had no knowledge of their aggression timers. But I guess in your opinion they should log on every 5 minutes to check right? You should probably get off of your uninformed horse.
1. CYVOK attacked and killed Slender Breanda with a doomsday then he logged off before agression timer ran out. There was no "Shooting of a Wreck" to keep him aggro, and quite frankly, if this was the case, he would have had his titan reimbursed. Actually, the wreck bug did not exist back then so thats your argument nulified.
2. Wotakn got microsmartbombed just before he logged, and according to a screenshot, he logged back in as he was getting pounded (he was in local) then logged off again.
Either way, the main issue has been that these players have been almost impossible to kill pre rev II patch because they were almost never on the front lines, and spent most of the time in or around pos's. In both cases, both pilots were shot while logged in, and I could argue that wotaken logged in while being shot, but to be honest, we all know that his titan loss could have been prevented with a bit of security.
What I like about Rev II is that now these ships can be taken down. Now its the real test of balls to see who uses them on the front line given the changes.
Meanwhile Blacklight is blamed for being a noob and forced to resign.
But yeah keep playing the bravery card. /whistles _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion |

Tetsujin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 11:43:00 -
[57]
I don't really care either way but one of the cool things about EVE is how the political landscape changes over the years and it would be great if every titan wreck became a fixed item in the system where it was destroyed if only so that in two years you can say, "This is where the battle between X and Y happened." There have been some great epic battles over the years and traces of those would add some added flavour to the barren wasteland that is most of 0.0 space.
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Divus
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.25 11:58:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Danthomir Tinfoil and hatin' aside, space is pretty damn empty. I really hope this titan kill gets monumented, because it's the only one that's visible and not 1000km off some godforsaken moon...
this
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Pepperami
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.25 12:19:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Boliknar Edited by: Boliknar on 25/06/2007 09:35:26
Originally by: violator2k5 i believe they have bigger things to deal with atm and will get round to it when they can
Funny how they were in local 2 min after the D2 kill Don't troll please. -Hango and the memorial was announced that day...
Yeah, that is strange, well it's clear that the devs must of been in D2 since bob was a constant 
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Angelus Damelon
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.06.25 12:45:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Jaakar Eldaris I suppose if a titan pilot jumps into 20 goon/RA/buddies gets aggression and then logs and warps out you guys probably wouldn't bother scanning it down and killing it because the kill wouldn't be "legitimate." Give me a break.
yes that is exactly the argument being made and you did not pull this out of thin air whatsoever
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.06.25 13:28:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
It takes a patch and the creation of a custom object. The ASCN memorial took a few months.
Congratulations, you win the "Only Guy With A Clue" award for this thread.

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violator2k5
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.25 13:50:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Sebesto I guess they only rush to the site to put a monument up when there is no pilot at the helm of the titan. But I guess you might be right, back when the other titans were destroyed they weren't working on any type of content improvements to the client/game. 
they just deployed an updated version of REV, do you expect them to drop everything to come and say wow gratz you killed a titan, we'll put up a momument asap, do you want a tea or coffee while you wait? there not going to jump to your call like some dog runing to its master. as i said before, they'll get round to it when they can
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: violator2k5 i believe they have bigger things to deal with atm and will get round to it when they can
like heat. woo.
among other things, heat is a pain in the rear atm, sticky modules is anoying too :/ not to mention the lag that is around atm and the database issues that seem to crop up  ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
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Plague Black
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.25 14:05:00 -
[63]
As the first titan killed while pilot was online this should be the first registered titan kill and deserves a monument.
imho
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Immortal Maxim
R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 14:22:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Immortal Maxim on 25/06/2007 14:24:36 Edited by: Immortal Maxim on 25/06/2007 14:23:00 subject: here we go...   
http://eve-files.com/dl/112218
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Bobbechk
Spontaneous Defenestration
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Posted - 2007.06.25 15:02:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Immortal Maxim Edited by: Immortal Maxim on 25/06/2007 14:27:08 subject: here we go...   
http://eve-files.com/dl/112218 http://eve-files.com/dl/112221
i bet you wont pvp for 2 years just to keep that sig as it is ;)
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 15:21:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Adm Tecumseh
Why is it that you guys over there hate bob so much that your willing to get banned just to say how much you hate them?
I mean all that threadnaught crap about dev's breaking into Pryrex's corp, Sharkbait, and the msn thing etc. You guys are so blinded by your hate that you will stop at nothing to show the world how much ***** is in your mouths.
I agree that killing the titan was an incredible feat but to come in here and smack in Molle's post about it shows poor taste and complete immaturity. You continue to call them cheats while every audit showes that no cheating happened except for the t20 thing which had absolutly nothing to do with you and only effected a couple people.
Why not enjoy your accomplishments and play the game?
I dislike the goons but I dislike them for the reasons I have described, the real tangible reasons, not the reasons that are fabricated on scrapeheap.
http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=370578 http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=371427 http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=372845 http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=374208 http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=377429 http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=380624
enjoy
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Immortal Maxim
R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.25 15:22:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Bobbechk
Originally by: Immortal Maxim Edited by: Immortal Maxim on 25/06/2007 14:27:08 subject: here we go...   
http://eve-files.com/dl/112218 http://eve-files.com/dl/112221
i bet you wont pvp for 2 years just to keep that sig as it is ;)
lol who knows... ;) bobs wrote somewhere they got another 6 titans or somethin like that))))) so... why not?) .________________________________________________________.
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Jomin Herdsy
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 15:51:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Daryl Zorg Edited by: Daryl Zorg on 25/06/2007 04:53:24 Never actually seen a Titan close so i don't know, but a Titan is supposed to be big, right?
Avatars are 15km long butt plugs. I hope that satisfies your curiosity.
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Lsf XXi
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.06.25 16:11:00 -
[69]
Quote:
Sesfan continued his explanation: ôOne of my <WANG> interceptor pilots then decloaked him 100km off the gate, and we had four interdictor bubbles down on her within a few seconds..
fixed that for you ccp.
Quote: Lady Gadiva > lets hide our numbers and be ***
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Papa Ina
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 16:39:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Lsf XXi
Quote:
Sesfan continued his explanation: ôOne of my <WANG> interceptor pilots then decloaked him 100km off the gate, and we had four interdictor bubbles down on her within a few seconds..
fixed that for you ccp.
Hrin, the little claw that could.
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Xthril Ranger
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.25 16:41:00 -
[71]
Originally by: violator2k5 among other things, heat is a pain in the rear atm, sticky modules is anoying too :/ not to mention the lag that is around atm and the database issues that seem to crop up 
well , last titan kill the db guy dropped everything he was working at to go bm the wreck ..... 
(sorry , couldnt resist)  . you'll never jump alone
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Ander
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:38:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Xthril Ranger
Originally by: violator2k5 among other things, heat is a pain in the rear atm, sticky modules is anoying too :/ not to mention the lag that is around atm and the database issues that seem to crop up 
well , last titan kill the db guy dropped everything he was working at to go bm the wreck ..... 
(sorry , couldnt resist) 
*tinfoil hats on* Last titan also got ceveral congratulation-posts by CCP in and out of forum. I dont recall seeing one "yellow" post by a dev saying "congratulations for killing Shrikes avatar"
EVE Online - Pirates ORANGE OF RAINBOW |

Echo147
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:44:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Yuki Nagato Oh hey, speak of the devil: CCP just responded to the Titan kill. Check out the login screen.
And the news reporter should be sacked for mis-spelling lose 
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:12:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Papa Ina
Originally by: Lsf XXi
Quote:
Sesfan continued his explanation: ôOne of my <WANG> interceptor pilots then decloaked him 100km off the gate, and we had four interdictor bubbles down on her within a few seconds..
fixed that for you ccp.
Hrin, the little claw that could.
Hi, how are you?
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Santiago Cortes
Caldari ISD Interstellar Correspondents Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:28:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Echo147
Originally by: Yuki Nagato Oh hey, speak of the devil: CCP just responded to the Titan kill. Check out the login screen.
And the news reporter should be sacked for mis-spelling lose 
Technically it should be the editor that's giving himself a severe dressing down in failing to spot it, so yes, hmm, off to sack myself.
forum rules | mailto:[email protected] |
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:57:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Originally by: Echo147
Originally by: Yuki Nagato Oh hey, speak of the devil: CCP just responded to the Titan kill. Check out the login screen.
And the news reporter should be sacked for mis-spelling lose 
Technically it should be the editor that's giving himself a severe dressing down in failing to spot it, so yes, hmm, off to sack myself.
It's not like they are paying you anything :shobon:
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Alias11
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.26 00:04:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Echo147
Originally by: Yuki Nagato Oh hey, speak of the devil: CCP just responded to the Titan kill. Check out the login screen.
And the news reporter should be sacked for mis-spelling lose 
In the header
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.26 00:30:00 -
[78]
if you want to be real they probably aren't going to be doing the "personal congrats in local from a CCP official! HELL YEAH" thing when you kill titans anymore because of all the drama **** that came from the last one
personally I don't want any titan wrecks around at all, because sooner or later they'll be everywhere and it won't be special anymore |

Pallas Minervo
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Posted - 2007.06.26 01:15:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Where's the memorial, CCP?
BoB/CCP Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels: Nein, zer never waz any titan. You are mistaken! Ze pilot in question wast on ze vacation in the Hague with his family. Mein kommandant, heir Molle has returned to ze fatherland and adamantly denies reporting such loss or even ze existence of said titan. Ze Luftwaffe and Wehrmacht are invincible. To speak otherwize, ist treason! Zis conference ist over, release ze hounds!
Sig Heil
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Stahlregen
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.26 01:48:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Pallas Minervo
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Where's the memorial, CCP?
BoB/CCP Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels: Nein, zer never waz any titan. You are mistaken! Ze pilot in question wast on ze vacation in the Hague with his family. Mein kommandant, heir Molle has returned to ze fatherland and adamantly denies reporting such loss or even ze existence of said titan. Ze Luftwaffe and Wehrmacht are invincible. To speak otherwize, ist treason! Zis conference ist over, release ze hounds!
Sig Heil
You're trying way too hard.
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2007.06.26 04:23:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Testicular Testes on 26/06/2007 04:22:39
Originally by: Bein Glorious
personally I don't want any titan wrecks around at all, because sooner or later they'll be everywhere and it won't be special anymore
They don't get warp beacons, so this is really the first that's visible at all. As much as supercap proliferation is a nuisance, titan wrecks are unlikely to become clutter - even when Titans themselves are discomfortingly common.
Okay, sure it was just veiled trashtalk by you. But I can't help myself -_-
Edit : Wrong character, argh. Don't snip :(
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.26 07:34:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Plague Black As the first titan killed while pilot was online this should be the first registered titan kill and deserves a monument.
imho
So a titan pilot who decides to log off trying to save his ass and get killed is not a "titan kill" ? You should ask that D2 pilot...
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.06.26 08:08:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Plague Black As the first titan killed while pilot was online this should be the first registered titan kill and deserves a monument.
imho
So a titan pilot who decides to log off trying to save his ass and get killed is not a "titan kill" ? You should ask that D2 pilot...
Oh c'mon, you cannot be that bad at trolling... You could have at least twisted it up a little bit.
Even bob's smackers are getting boring. :(
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:35:00 -
[84]
Whenever the monument gets put up.....uhm lets make sure its far from the gate. I get visions of warping to the gate and SMACK..there goes the front bumper... itd create a hell of a traffic jam... Almost like a brick wall warp bubble...actually..cool idea. No smack..good job killing a titan. 1 of 3 (ALL 3 are titan KILLS. Im not touching the legit issue on ANY of them so neener)
So now that the avatar is a big wreck..itll be recommissioned as a Ragnarok..right? (Sorry, couldnt resist bagging on the minnie's)
Delivering the kick to the jaw of society to stop it from drooling on itself like the ignorant slop it is since 1984.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.
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Plague Black
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:50:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Plague Black As the first titan killed while pilot was online this should be the first registered titan kill and deserves a monument.
imho
So a titan pilot who decides to log off trying to save his ass and get killed is not a "titan kill" ? You should ask that D2 pilot...
Yes you killed him while he was offline and agroed by a friendly spy. You are a hero and goons and bunch are just cowards for doing it while he was online... Did you read what you wrote?
I repeat again: This is first titan kill while the pilot was in the game and was able to defend himself agfainst attackers, so in my opinion, this is first valid titan kill. First two kills are nowhere near this one. They were as hard as killing an empty badger I.
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Christine Cormorante
Gallente Shadow Assasins The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:59:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Originally by: Echo147
Originally by: Yuki Nagato Oh hey, speak of the devil: CCP just responded to the Titan kill. Check out the login screen.
And the news reporter should be sacked for mis-spelling lose 
Technically it should be the editor that's giving himself a severe dressing down in failing to spot it, so yes, hmm, off to sack myself.
You know, i've seen it soooooo many times all over the net, that I didn't even notice LOL
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John McFly
Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:00:00 -
[87]
Edited by: John McFly on 26/06/2007 12:00:13 If an underhanded, non-piloted titan kill gets a memorial, at least the first legitimate combat kill should get one as well. It would also be cool if the first of each race's titan to die recieved a memorial.
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Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:09:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 26/06/2007 12:09:12 Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 26/06/2007 12:08:30
Originally by: Plague Black
Originally by: Fire Hawk
Originally by: Plague Black As the first titan killed while pilot was online this should be the first registered titan kill and deserves a monument.
imho
So a titan pilot who decides to log off trying to save his ass and get killed is not a "titan kill" ? You should ask that D2 pilot...
Yes you killed him while he was offline and agroed by a friendly spy. You are a hero and goons and bunch are just cowards for doing it while he was online... Did you read what you wrote?
I repeat again: This is first titan kill while the pilot was in the game and was able to defend himself agfainst attackers, so in my opinion, this is first valid titan kill. First two kills are nowhere near this one. They were as hard as killing an empty badger I.
You're forgetting he was aggroed while online, logged off and logged back in when he was being attacked. When he noticed he was under attack wotank logged off again. |

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:46:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
You're forgetting he was aggroed while online, logged off and logged back in when he was being attacked. When he noticed he was under attack wotank logged off again.
Yes thats right.../emote pats the Troll.
He logged back in, decided not to spoil the party with a DD, politely refused a cyno out, and then logged off. Sounds so plausible 
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Alice Cholmondeley
Christine.
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:50:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
You're forgetting he was aggroed while online, logged off and logged back in when he was being attacked. When he noticed he was under attack wotank logged off again.
Yes thats right.../emote pats the Troll.
He logged back in, decided not to spoil the party with a DD, politely refused a cyno out, and then logged off. Sounds so plausible 
There are screenshots showing him logged in You're the one trolling. |
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.26 12:53:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 26/06/2007 12:56:29
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
There are screenshots showing him logged in You're the one trolling.
If you would be so kind, can you link me that.
Edit:
Originally by: Ovaron
Minutes after this it was reported that the Titan had not disappeared, so the pilot attempted to log back in.
Afaik...he never managed to log in. That many capitals on your butt, tends to lag log in by quite a lot 
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00tricky
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.26 20:43:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 26/06/2007 12:56:29
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
There are screenshots showing him logged in You're the one trolling.
If you would be so kind, can you link me that.
Edit:
Originally by: Ovaron
Minutes after this it was reported that the Titan had not disappeared, so the pilot attempted to log back in.
Afaik...he never managed to log in. That many capitals on your butt, tends to lag log in by quite a lot 
Linkage
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torN Deception
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.26 20:56:00 -
[93]
Killing a logged-off titan that has the offensive capability of a veld roid is just as impressive as goonfleet's destruction of a titan that has dps greater than 0.
On an unrelated topic, I want to become the world's greatest boxer, so I'm going to go dig up Muhammad Ali's corpse and pummel it for a few rounds. |

Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.26 21:08:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 26/06/2007 21:07:55
Originally by: 00tricky
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 26/06/2007 12:56:29
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
There are screenshots showing him logged in You're the one trolling.
If you would be so kind, can you link me that.
Edit:
Originally by: Ovaron
Minutes after this it was reported that the Titan had not disappeared, so the pilot attempted to log back in.
Afaik...he never managed to log in. That many capitals on your butt, tends to lag log in by quite a lot 
Linkage
Yes, So much for the whole 'You killed an offline titan blabby blab blab' now.  |

Marodi Alivar
SUBLIME L.L.C. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 21:10:00 -
[95]
Originally by: torN Deception Killing a logged-off titan that has the offensive capability of a veld roid is just as impressive as goonfleet's destruction of a titan that has dps greater than 0.
On an unrelated topic, I want to become the world's greatest boxer, so I'm going to go dig up Muhammad Ali's corpse and pummel it for a few rounds.
uhh..... Humammad Ali is still alive...
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Crean NaVar
Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.06.26 21:42:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Yes, So much for the whole 'You killed an offline titan blabby blab blab' now. 
I do not mistake your ignorance for stupidy, so IŠll just cut the detailled explanation of how a pilot logging back in!! into a laggy battle situation might not exactly qualify as being in control of a ship. Even after all this time BoB pilots and assorted alts are not able to acknowledge the lameless of this "kill". Unbelievable.
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:05:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Crean NaVar
I do not mistake your ignorance for stupidy, so IŠll just cut the detailled explanation of how a pilot logging back in!! into a laggy battle situation might not exactly qualify as being in control of a ship.
TBH, thats not that different from Shrikes situation, as he floated in a sea of wreaks, with common combat lag, exept he didn't whine about at nausium. It's part of the game.
He could have self destructed, hell he coudl have tried logofski at the first bubble, but that not his style.
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Kai Jyokoroi
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:29:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Yuki Nagato
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Yuki Nagato I'm not going to be angry
Originally by: Yuki Nagato a lot of people are going to be pretty angry
My hatred of you can not be bound to a single forum
Man I don't know what to say. Maybe I should start packing heat??? Get a bodyguard???????????????????????
Damn, I love you Goons  _____________ WE ARE THE COLLECTIVE. RESISTANCE IS VOLTAGE OVER CURRENT.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.26 23:20:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Crean NaVar
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Yes, So much for the whole 'You killed an offline titan blabby blab blab' now. 
I do not mistake your ignorance for stupidy, so IŠll just cut the detailled explanation of how a pilot logging back in!! into a laggy battle situation might not exactly qualify as being in control of a ship. Even after all this time BoB pilots and assorted alts are not able to acknowledge the lameless of this "kill". Unbelievable.
Yes, How dare BoB take advantage of one's own lack of competence to deliver a large blow to their opposition.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.06.26 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: torN Deception Killing a logged-off titan that has the offensive capability of a veld roid is just as impressive as goonfleet's destruction of a titan that has dps greater than 0.
On an unrelated topic, I want to become the world's greatest boxer, so I'm going to go dig up Muhammad Ali's corpse and pummel it for a few rounds.
You logic is sound, however Muhammad Ali is not dead......
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Vactet
Immortalis Silens FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 23:49:00 -
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I cant believe im actually going to partially defend BoB...oye.
Look..a titan kill is a titan kill is a titan kill. In the end they are ALL the same. How so? They all just cost the owners a crap load of ISK. They all just made the news. And (once devs get off butts) they all end up monuments.
I dare someone to argue that the "how" of killing a titan matters...its still the same ISK price tag.
Heres an analogy. I am a mugger in NY. I go rob a purse from an old lady..i get 100bucks. I go rob a wallet from some guy who tries to fight me off and fails..i get 100 bucks. The difference? Nothing. I still made 100 bucks.
Yes you can get into the morality debate of logged off or logged on titan. But in the end..you still have a dead titan. A dead assest, and a morale hit.
Look, if i want to seriously hurt an adversary, say the general of the enemy army. I can go kill him..but chances are he is gaurded. Or i can just be a total a-hole, go find his family and kill them, breaking his mental state by doing so. End result? Enemy General is out of commission.
My point is that it REALLY doesnt matter when it comes to the legitness (Legit as in "morally acceptable". Obviously they were all legal by the rules of the game or the titans would have been replaced).
But yeh, good job goons for killing Shrike. Why? You showed coordination with your allies and proved just what yall can do when you want to. Thats a chip on the shoulder not many get to have.
And before ANYONE flames me about the legit kill issue...Ill leave you with two things to think about. "What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease"- Sun Tzu (It doesnt get any easier than when the pilot is logged off) "All warfare is based on deception"-Sun Tzu (Using a spy in the corp to smartbomb the titan is about as decietful as it gets.)
And always remember..Sun Tzu is smarter than you will ever be, its best to take his advice on such things pertaining to life.
Delivering the kick to the jaw of society to stop it from drooling on itself like the ignorant slop it is since 1984.
Originally by: CCP Sharkbait we are screwed.
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torN Deception
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.26 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marodi Alivar uhh..... Humammad Ali is still alive...
Originally by: Shin Ra You logic is sound, however Muhammad Ali is not dead......
Ok then, I'm going to become the world's greatest race car driver by beating Dale Earnhardt in a race. Is that better you smarmy little bastards? |

Itzena
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: torN Deception
Originally by: Marodi Alivar uhh..... Humammad Ali is still alive...
Originally by: Shin Ra You logic is sound, however Muhammad Ali is not dead......
Ok then, I'm going to become the world's greatest race car driver by beating Dale Earnhardt in a race. Is that better you smarmy little bastards?
Ayrton Senna > Dale Earnhardt.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 27/06/2007 01:01:11
Originally by: 00tricky
Linkage
Thanks for the link...interesting. You realise however that a log in icon appears before that person has loaded space.
I am surprised that if he managed to log in, he didn't at least turn on a capital rep, or try a DD...I didn't know Wotank that well, but I will give him benefit of doubt
It's old news anyway, but I was defending the fact that he didn't log off in the "middle" of combat. He in fact tried to log back in to combat. I was in the system at the time, and yes I saw local  Yes you killed that Titan, but I think everyone in BOB would have rather killed the one that was fighting back. 
Having said that though, what you did was a well executed plan, sneaky as ****, but that's what you do in war to win 
Edit: @Vactet..yep agree. If you get killed by elite pvprs or jumped by a roaming gang, or ganked by semi afk campers, it's the same thing You died, you don't get a bigger pay out on insurance if you were ganked by noobs 
BOB have killed 2 Titans and lost 1, those are facts. Honour is subjective however 
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.27 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak It is weird that a GM shows right after the other 2 were killed
Well if they had logged on thier GM alts while they were killing the titans they would have got a load of lag.
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Bippa
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Posted - 2007.06.27 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Vactet I cant believe im actually going to partially defend BoB...oye.
Look..a titan kill is a titan kill is a titan kill. In the end they are ALL the same.
BoB about to start taking over your space? Are you *****fending to suck some crok? No, an offline titan kill, offline titan kill, online titan kill are not the same. No matter how you reason it.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2007.06.27 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Bippa
Originally by: Vactet I cant believe im actually going to partially defend BoB...oye.
Look..a titan kill is a titan kill is a titan kill. In the end they are ALL the same.
BoB about to start taking over your space? Are you *****fending to suck some crok? No, an offline titan kill, offline titan kill, online titan kill are not the same. No matter how you reason it.
Clueless...?
The D2 titan was online(maybe with limited playability mind you), during most of destruction of his Erebus; what says Molle didn't suffer a fair bit of lag himself during the destruction of his titan?
I guess that would mean that the two titan kills closely resemble each other besides the fact that the D2 pilot was logging in during the initial attacks on his titan and Molle was online throughout the destruction of his. Also the fact that Molle was actively fighting in his titan while the D2 pilot was not nor planning to. |

Sir JoJo
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.27 05:55:00 -
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i love this discussion ;)
but to sum it up 3 titans are dead ;)
1 Cyvok, ****** up logged of whit agro timer on leaving him floating in space, and Who wouldent kill him ;)
2 Wotankn, got tricked whit a micro smartbomb and logged off whit agro not knowing so, logged back in during the destruction to log back off.
3. Shrike used hes DD and got cought by GS bubbled down and killed in a fair fight.
cyvok ****** up himself and got killed just as fair as Shrike, who dont kill ppl that log off whit agro every day, this time it was a titan though.
Wotankn , yeha some might call it dirty tricks, and yes was very tricksy, but remember it was before u could bubble a titan,
Shrike , boom fair fight gg RA and GS
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Krynder
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.06.27 05:57:00 -
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bump for all the bobbits! First legit titan loss has got to suck.
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Fire Hawk
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.27 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sir JoJo i love this discussion ;)
but to sum it up 3 titans are dead ;)
1 Cyvok, ****** up logged of whit agro timer on leaving him floating in space, and Who wouldent kill him ;)
2 Wotankn, got tricked whit a micro smartbomb and logged off whit agro not knowing so, logged back in during the destruction to log back off.
3. Shrike used hes DD and got cought by GS bubbled down and killed in a fair fight.
cyvok ****** up himself and got killed just as fair as Shrike, who dont kill ppl that log off whit agro every day, this time it was a titan though.
Wotankn , yeha some might call it dirty tricks, and yes was very tricksy, but remember it was before u could bubble a titan,
Shrike , boom fair fight gg RA and GS
That's a good summary. But, ppl heard that ppl heard that the 2 first titans kills gave no chance to their pilots to defend themself.
D2 pilot logged back in, then logged to try to save the erebus. Cyvok was told on TS that he was under attack and decided to not log back, he though it was the best to save his avatar...
Now since the patch, I have never seen a enemy titan on the bf. Why ?
OP : Yes I agree, Goons and RA needs to get their monument, it was a gf and they deserve it. Anyway, I think devs are very busy atm with all petitions escalated to them since patch deployment 
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Homer Greyt
H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.27 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk ... Now since the patch, I have never seen a enemy titan on the bf. Why ?...
Shrike will be able to tell you why. (Not an insult or anything.)
You cannot use supercaps as you could before the patch. Especially not in Ragoon vs. BoB engagements where the biggest cap fleets clash at eachother. In those battles even a titan will die pretty quickly. Is that an apparent enough reason?
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.06.28 03:45:00 -
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Edited by: Adm Tecumseh on 28/06/2007 03:51:17
Originally by: Plague Black
Yes you killed him while he was offline and agroed by a friendly spy. You are a hero and goons and bunch are just cowards for doing it while he was online... Did you read what you wrote?
I repeat again: This is first titan kill while the pilot was in the game and was able to defend himself agfainst attackers, so in my opinion, this is first valid titan kill. First two kills are nowhere near this one. They were as hard as killing an empty badger I.
I bet your family tree looks like a telephone pole.
Any of your immediate family count toothpicks on the floor or are you the only one??
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Cheng
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.28 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mogrin Edited by: Mogrin on 25/06/2007 11:39:49
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Originally by: Moishe Rothschild Those aggression timers included:
1. BoB shooting a wreck of CYVOK's right as he logged out.
2. A BoB spy Covops micro-smartbombing Wotankn as he logged out and emergency warped.
They had no knowledge of their aggression timers. But I guess in your opinion they should log on every 5 minutes to check right? You should probably get off of your uninformed horse.
1. CYVOK attacked and killed Slender Breanda with a doomsday then he logged off before agression timer ran out. There was no "Shooting of a Wreck" to keep him aggro, and quite frankly, if this was the case, he would have had his titan reimbursed. Actually, the wreck bug did not exist back then so thats your argument nulified.
2. Wotakn got microsmartbombed just before he logged, and according to a screenshot, he logged back in as he was getting pounded (he was in local) then logged off again.
Either way, the main issue has been that these players have been almost impossible to kill pre rev II patch because they were almost never on the front lines, and spent most of the time in or around pos's. In both cases, both pilots were shot while logged in, and I could argue that wotaken logged in while being shot, but to be honest, we all know that his titan loss could have been prevented with a bit of security.
What I like about Rev II is that now these ships can be taken down. Now its the real test of balls to see who uses them on the front line given the changes.
Meanwhile Blacklight is blamed for being a noob and forced to resign.
But yeah keep playing the bravery card. /whistles
Lol - Is like zero space in your brain?
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Cheng
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.28 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jomin Herdsy
Originally by: Daryl Zorg Edited by: Daryl Zorg on 25/06/2007 04:53:24 Never actually seen a Titan close so i don't know, but a Titan is supposed to be big, right?
Avatars are 15km long butt plugs. I hope that satisfies your curiosity.
Win.  ----
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prak Iscariot
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.06.28 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra You logic is sound, however Muhammad Ali is not dead......
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Phelan Driscoll
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.28 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 28/06/2007 18:30:17
Originally by: prak Iscariot
Originally by: Shin Ra You logic is sound, however Muhammad Ali is not dead......
He isn't exactly 'logged in' anymore either.
This is the only good post in this thread. ___________________________________________ Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. |

Milano II
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.29 12:41:00 -
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my vote is also cast for a monument of some sort. at least, for the first 5 titan kills in eve... you can't honestly do every single one, coz in a year there'll be tons of them.
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Homer Greyt
H.Y.D.R.A. GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.06.29 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Milano II my vote is also cast for a monument of some sort. at least, for the first 5 titan kills in eve... you can't honestly do every single one, coz in a year there'll be tons of them.
We will get there when we get there. But monumenting only BoB kills is kinda onesided, don't you think?
1. 100 titanwrecks isn't that many for EVE... 2. RA arn't showing any titans. 3. BoB won't build 100 titans in one year all by them selves. 4. BoB aren't using their titans anylonger other than for jumpbridging. Shrike might have been the last titankill for a long while. 5. No one else is going to rist their titans in a fight. Unless against a target withought a cap fleet. ________ Let's dance! |

Kyria Timeyu
Pie Vendor
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Posted - 2007.06.29 16:59:00 -
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One thing that people should look at in another light today was Admiral Chamrajawhatevers involvement on the Cyvok kill. Back then, it looked a little bit unusual to always have him available on kills but nothing really suspicious.
Today we know that he was a BoB member and pretty corrupt so I don't think it's too unlikely that he was the one who reset the logoff timer on Cyvok and provided the warp in.
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