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MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:08:00 - [1] Speed, great dps, no cap guns?? that is just nuts. Increase damage on blasters and torpedos to compensate, or decrease damage on minimatar.
Avan Strega Thunderstruck.	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:12:00 - [2] blasters do way more damage than autocannons. minmatar is also a very skill-intensive race to train in order to be effective. no need for a nerf, thanks --- Thunderstruck is recruiting!
Marcus Starr FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:14:00 - [3] Leave Minmatar alone. They've had it ruff. Band of Brothers 2 Stolen Footage
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:16:00 - [4] Originally by: MehTheTrader Increase damage on blasters and torpedos to compensate, or decrease damage on minimatar. Well, kinda answers why the mods forget us too So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:26:00 - [5] Edited by: MehTheTrader on 26/06/2007 04:25:48 Originally by: Avan Strega blasters do way more damage than autocannons. minmatar is also a very skill-intensive race to train in order to be effective. no need for a nerf, thanks Skill intensive.. your a ****** LOL . Do you really believe that mini is on par with caldari and ammar... biased ;).
Messerschmitt facility Amarr Shinra	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:26:00 - [6] And people wonder why amarr is so dead. You see, people don't even need to say nerf amarr, they are already so nerfed that people already know it and they don't even bother "nerf lasers" _________________________________ A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking...
MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:29:00 - [7] Edited by: MehTheTrader on 26/06/2007 04:28:14 Originally by: Messerschmitt facility And people wonder why amarr is so dead. You see, people don't even need to say nerf amarr, they are already so nerfed that people already know it and they don't even bother "nerf lasers" better than caldari.. No devs must play caldari or ammar
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:30:00 - [8] Originally by: MehTheTrader better than caldari.. In what way, pray do tell? So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: MehTheTrader better than caldari.. In what way, pray do tell? Well are we talking solo.. because caldari cant do that. Ammar has good recons, cmd ships, and decent bs. Missles not only have terrible dps.. but also are slow. So bad for fleet and solo, except for scorp.
Igualmentedos	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:42:00 - [10] Edited by: Igualmentedos on 26/06/2007 04:41:16 Originally by: MehTheTrader Edited by: MehTheTrader on 26/06/2007 04:35:09 Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: MehTheTrader better than caldari.. In what way, pray do tell? Well are we talking solo.. because caldari cant do that. Ammar has good recons, cmd ships, and decent bs. Missles not only have terrible dps.. but also are slow.. need quick hits in fleet. So bad for fleet and solo, except for scorp. See no problem with gallente, as they devote to fight. Minimatar don't devote to fight, but run, and still have good dps while doing it, overpowered. While i do agree that caldari are the epitome of suck, i still think minmatar needs to be left untouched, they're perfectly fine. Now gallente, I'm not sure why CCP has proven to be as intelligent as a small child when it comes to balancing them, seems to be the iWin faction. It has come to the point where if im killed by a gallentean ship I honestly don't hold the player that killed me in very high regards, because they're basically on easy mode.

AstroPhobic Minmatar STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:44:00 - [11] Minimal speed boost, only relevant in certain ships (Anyone see nano-tempests bouncing around?) Autocannons dont hold a candle to blasters in DPS (might I say that pulses got a tracking bonus for fun ) Arty DPS is horrid and burst damage sucks with the new HP buff.. No cap guns sure, just like caldari's missiles Need I mention that you have to train your speed skills high to be effective, your armor skills, your shield skills, your drone skills, your gun skills, your missile skills, your cap skills, your PG skills to fit artillery... Get all of that maxed and you will be sub-par for PvE still and be rivaling gallente in PvP. Astro
William Hamilton Caldari THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.26 04:45:00 - [12] ^So true my friend, so true. Now, boosting the caldari gunships like in that one thread would help, and perhaps giving amarr bigger dronebays to allow them to diversify their dmage (They are, RP-wise, supposed to be second only to gallente in dorne usage)
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.06.26 05:04:00 - [13] Attention: I officially give this thread my "this thread has become silly" stamp. That is all.
MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 05:46:00 - [14] Originally by: AstroPhobic Minimal speed boost, only relevant in certain ships (Anyone see nano-tempests bouncing around?) Autocannons dont hold a candle to blasters in DPS (might I say that pulses got a tracking bonus for fun ) Arty DPS is horrid and burst damage sucks with the new HP buff.. No cap guns sure, just like caldari's missiles Need I mention that you have to train your speed skills high to be effective, your armor skills, your shield skills, your drone skills, your gun skills, your missile skills, your cap skills, your PG skills to fit artillery... Get all of that maxed and you will be sub-par for PvE still and be rivaling gallente in PvP. Astro Its funny that you can only argue against gallente. No way you could say mini is not overpowered compared to ammar/caldari. Yes gallente have biggest dps that is fair they are fine. Minimatar have better dps(exp ammo-do you fly mini?) than caldari and ammar. Mini Speed is fine, but needs to lose dps to compensate, it can't have speed and dps. Either that or increase tank on ammar, and increase damage on missle torps. Gallente are fine as is, as they have to get close for dps. wtf are you talking about skills?? all races cross train nub .
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.06.26 05:48:00 - [15] Originally by: MehTheTrader Originally by: AstroPhobic Minimal speed boost, only relevant in certain ships (Anyone see nano-tempests bouncing around?) Autocannons dont hold a candle to blasters in DPS (might I say that pulses got a tracking bonus for fun ) Arty DPS is horrid and burst damage sucks with the new HP buff.. No cap guns sure, just like caldari's missiles Need I mention that you have to train your speed skills high to be effective, your armor skills, your shield skills, your drone skills, your gun skills, your missile skills, your cap skills, your PG skills to fit artillery... Get all of that maxed and you will be sub-par for PvE still and be rivaling gallente in PvP. Astro Its funny that you can only argue against gallente. No way you could say mini is not overpowered compared to ammar/caldari. Yes gallente have biggest dps that is fair they are fine. Minimatar have better dps(exp ammo-do you fly mini?) than caldari and ammar. Mini Speed is fine, but needs to lose dps to compensate, it can't have speed and dps. Either that or increase tank on ammar, and increase damage on missle torps. Gallente are fine as is, as they have to get close for dps. wtf are you talking about skills?? all races cross train nub . we have the lowest dps...
MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 05:53:00 - [16] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: MehTheTrader Originally by: AstroPhobic Minimal speed boost, only relevant in certain ships (Anyone see nano-tempests bouncing around?) Autocannons dont hold a candle to blasters in DPS (might I say that pulses got a tracking bonus for fun ) Arty DPS is horrid and burst damage sucks with the new HP buff.. No cap guns sure, just like caldari's missiles Need I mention that you have to train your speed skills high to be effective, your armor skills, your shield skills, your drone skills, your gun skills, your missile skills, your cap skills, your PG skills to fit artillery... Get all of that maxed and you will be sub-par for PvE still and be rivaling gallente in PvP. Astro Its funny that you can only argue against gallente. No way you could say mini is not overpowered compared to ammar/caldari. Yes gallente have biggest dps that is fair they are fine. Minimatar have better dps(exp ammo-do you fly mini?) than caldari and ammar. Mini Speed is fine, but needs to lose dps to compensate, it can't have speed and dps. Either that or increase tank on ammar, and increase damage on missle torps. Gallente are fine as is, as they have to get close for dps. wtf are you talking about skills?? all races cross train nub . we have the lowest dps... I dont know what ship you are talking about. But ammar em means crap damage. Missles do barley any damage, mini can dodge those anyways. But of course if you compare to gallente blasters you will have lower dps, but close with exp damage against armor tanks. Yet mini still has great dps at 10km or so.
MotherMoon	Posted - 2007.06.26 05:57:00 - [17] Edited by: MotherMoon on 26/06/2007 05:57:17 Originally by: MehTheTrader Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: MehTheTrader Originally by: AstroPhobic Minimal speed boost, only relevant in certain ships (Anyone see nano-tempests bouncing around?) Autocannons dont hold a candle to blasters in DPS (might I say that pulses got a tracking bonus for fun ) Arty DPS is horrid and burst damage sucks with the new HP buff.. No cap guns sure, just like caldari's missiles Need I mention that you have to train your speed skills high to be effective, your armor skills, your shield skills, your drone skills, your gun skills, your missile skills, your cap skills, your PG skills to fit artillery... Get all of that maxed and you will be sub-par for PvE still and be rivaling gallente in PvP. Astro Its funny that you can only argue against gallente. No way you could say mini is not overpowered compared to ammar/caldari. Yes gallente have biggest dps that is fair they are fine. Minimatar have better dps(exp ammo-do you fly mini?) than caldari and ammar. Mini Speed is fine, but needs to lose dps to compensate, it can't have speed and dps. Either that or increase tank on ammar, and increase damage on missle torps. Gallente are fine as is, as they have to get close for dps. wtf are you talking about skills?? all races cross train nub . we have the lowest dps... I dont know what ship you are talking about. But ammar em means crap damage. Missles do barley any damage, mini can dodge those anyways. But of course if you compare to gallente blasters you will have lower dps, but close with exp damage against armor tanks. Yet mini still has great dps at 10km or so. um... autocannons have the lowest dps in the game for guns of it's size your gripe should be with dmg types not the race and were not as strong as an ammar ship fitting projectiles I mean other than the bonuses to rof and stuff the ammar can tank very well without weapons using cap the whole dmg type system needs to be redone in general
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.06.26 05:59:00 - [18] Originally by: MehTheTrader Missles do barley any damage, mini can dodge those anyways. Please let me know how to do that without being in a Vaga with tons of implants. Somehow the Vaga is synonymous to Minmatar for most people. Have you seen the rest of our ships? --- Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:03:00 - [19] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 26/06/2007 05:57:17 Originally by: MehTheTrader Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: MehTheTrader Originally by: AstroPhobic Minimal speed boost, only relevant in certain ships (Anyone see nano-tempests bouncing around?) Autocannons dont hold a candle to blasters in DPS (might I say that pulses got a tracking bonus for fun ) Arty DPS is horrid and burst damage sucks with the new HP buff.. No cap guns sure, just like caldari's missiles Need I mention that you have to train your speed skills high to be effective, your armor skills, your shield skills, your drone skills, your gun skills, your missile skills, your cap skills, your PG skills to fit artillery... Get all of that maxed and you will be sub-par for PvE still and be rivaling gallente in PvP. Astro Its funny that you can only argue against gallente. No way you could say mini is not overpowered compared to ammar/caldari. Yes gallente have biggest dps that is fair they are fine. Minimatar have better dps(exp ammo-do you fly mini?) than caldari and ammar. Mini Speed is fine, but needs to lose dps to compensate, it can't have speed and dps. Either that or increase tank on ammar, and increase damage on missle torps. Gallente are fine as is, as they have to get close for dps. wtf are you talking about skills?? all races cross train nub . we have the lowest dps... I dont know what ship you are talking about. But ammar em means crap damage. Missles do barley any damage, mini can dodge those anyways. But of course if you compare to gallente blasters you will have lower dps, but close with exp damage against armor tanks. Yet mini still has great dps at 10km or so. um... autocannons have the lowest dps in the game for guns of it's size your gripe should be with dmg types not the race and were not as strong as an ammar ship fitting projectiles I mean other than the bonuses to rof and stuff the ammar can tank very well without weapons using cap the whole dmg type system needs to be redone in general talk about dig your own hole, ammar ships fitting projectiles. they don't use their own racials
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:04:00 - [20] Another nerf this and boost that thread..... Seriously, you obviously have no clue about minmatar ships. Have you tried blasterthron VS AC pest? Or a nos domi vs AC pest? Or a deimos vs munnin? Or a deimos vs Vaga? With 2 equally skilled pilots the only engagement the minmatar ship would win is the vaga vs deimos and that is because the vaga would warp out.... Get a clue.

MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:09:00 - [21] Originally by: Mangold Another nerf this and boost that thread..... Seriously, you obviously have no clue about minmatar ships. Have you tried blasterthron VS AC pest? Or a nos domi vs AC pest? Or a deimos vs munnin? Or a deimos vs Vaga? With 2 equally skilled pilots the only engagement the minmatar ship would win is the vaga vs deimos and that is because the vaga would warp out.... Get a clue. Nice you put a gallente ships.. we are talking about caldari and ammar being underpowered not gallente. READ Anyways vaga beats deimos easily eventually after it runs out of cap, its cal EXP ammo. Munnin would do a better job though. Gallente have best bs. Minimatar has best bc and lower overall.
K1K1R1K1 Team Machine Incorporated	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:13:00 - [22] If you hit minmatar with the nerf bat, the ships would simply fall apart. Then under their own gravity form a cluster of rusted crap and turn into even more powerfull ships!!! _______________________________________ Don't worry aboutit.
Faith Black Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:16:00 - [23] Stupid thread. Like if most people would fly autocannon tempest, because projectile dps is so overpowered or like the 'speedy' maelstroem would be so fast that no one can catch her. And if you are sitting in your ratting raven, it's not like a speedy vagabond could rip you apart with massive dps. It's more a case of: 'Yawn, this might take an eternity.' and since everyone fits one or two heavy nos, it's going nowhere. And yes, because minmatar is so overpowered, so many people crosstrain to fly myrmidon. ...
Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:17:00 - [24] lol I guess this tard got wasted in his nub-boat by a couple highly skilled mini ships and came here to have a cry.
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:17:00 - [25] Originally by: MehTheTrader Nice you put a gallente ships.. we are talking about caldari and ammar being underpowered not gallente. READ Anyways vaga beats deimos easily eventually after it runs out of cap, its cal EXP ammo. Munnin would do a better job though. Gallente have best bs. Minimatar has best bc and lower overall. orly? Originally by: MehTheTrader Speed, great dps, no cap guns?? that is just nuts. Increase damage on blasters and torpedos to compensate, or decrease damage on minimatar. Blasters = gallente. Funny you say that Minmatar have the best BC. Of all the ships I've found in 0.0 Drake have been the most common BC and actually the hardest one to kill. Last time I looked it was a Caldari ship. All ships have their strengths and weaknesses.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:18:00 - [26] Originally by: MehTheTrader Speed, great dps, no cap guns?? that is just nuts. Increase damage on blasters and torpedos to compensate, or decrease damage on minimatar. I hope you choke on your Quafe Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:20:00 - [27] you are incredibly biased towards gallente no mods please
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:29:00 - [28] I have purchased express tickets to the afterlife for everyone who says nerf minmatar, enjoy your stay Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon!
MehTheTrader University of Caille	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:31:00 - [29] No biasiticism just stating facts. Minimatar can stay at 10km, have incredible speed, no cap use guns, and have way better damage with exp compared to caldari/ammar. That is too much in a package, their damage should be lower than ammar and caldari and as well to compensate for speed and no cap guns. Nerf the Power !!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 06:33:00 - [30] Oh all this naysay and poppycoc has given me a stupendous idea. I'm gonna train hybrids, launchers, projectiles and fit each to go with a laser turret, go and find me 4 cruisers or some such and shoot them. Just to see which one goes down first. Ofcourse on the hybrid one, i'll send drones too, but that's just so i can rig the results and claim gallente are overpowered So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.



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