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Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:20:00 - [1] Edited by: Silverlancer on 19/01/2004 15:32:48 Edited by: Silverlancer on 19/01/2004 15:21:50 People would like you a lot more and would have much less against you and pirates in general if you dumped this stupid attitude that you seem to have adopted... In the middle of a thread praising a well-made movie of the Frigate March: Quote: Stop spamming these forums with stupid newb movies. Please, m0o... many people in and out of game are complaining about your attitude. Please change it. People don't hate you because of your tactics, they hate you because of your ridiculous attitude. Comments like that above are not only spam, but they are insulting. I AM NOT A CAREBEAR. Pirates are an integral part of the game. In fact, without pirates, EVE would be pretty pointless. But we can do without the "shut up j00 l4m3r n00b f4gg07" attitude. THIS IS NOT COUNTERSTRIKE. A few days ago, a battleship covered with missile launchers fired a hoard of Wraith Cruise Missiles at me while I was flying in 0.0 space... he one-hitted my ship. He then podded me. Instead of sending a message to him saying bleep YOU YOU PODDING PIRATE IDIOT ALJSDKFAJSDLKFJAS" like a carebear, I thanked him for podding me so that I didn't have to fly all the way back to Alakgur to get another ship . He responded in kind . This is how pirating should be. The pirates don't act like total jerks, they just fullfil their role in the game. out with the n0rty -Eris Discordia
Annoying Bug	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:36:00 - [2] Edited by: Annoying Bug on 19/01/2004 15:37:14 Maybe the forums need an "Ignore all posts by m0o members"-button. It would be well used I bet.
Cabadrin	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:36:00 - [3] Quote: People would like you a lot more and would have much less against you and pirates in general if you dumped this stupid attitude that you seem to have adopted... I find it hard to believe I could ever like m0o, even if they changed their attitude 180 degrees :) Obnoxious, abrasive pirates who whine all day on the forums. Average player age of m0o: 14 (despite what a friend says to the contrary). ----------------------------------------------- Coalition Kill Board
Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:37:00 - [4] Quote: Quote: People would like you a lot more and would have much less against you and pirates in general if you dumped this stupid attitude that you seem to have adopted... I find it hard to believe I could ever like m0o, even if they changed their attitude 180 degrees :) Obnoxious, abrasive pirates who whine all day on the forums. Average player age of m0o: 14 (despite what a friend says to the contrary). If m0o changed their attitude, I wouldn't have a problem with them. If they were like all the other pirates in EVE, I wouldn't have a problem at all. AND YES! GIVE US AN "IGNORE ALL POSTS BY M0O BUTTON!"
mk ultra	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:43:00 - [5] hahaha whats fun about it is that their attitude to **** you off actually works and by whining you encourage them to do it more . Keep on the good job :P ------------------------ <Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P
Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:45:00 - [6] Quote: hahaha whats fun about it is that their attitude to **** you off actually works and by whining you encourage them to do it more . Keep on the good job :P I'm doing it for their sake, not mine. I ignore their posts usually... it just makes them look like idiots...
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:47:00 - [7] Kids will be Kids. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
Seiun Darel	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:48:00 - [8] I bet if you would listen to the m0o conversations on Ventrilo, you would hear those small near-puberty whiny girlvoices. I'm not scared of you, i'd take you ANYDAY m0o, come get me coward fuers!!** <<-- CGI Art -->>
Miso	Posted - 2004.01.19 15:54:00 - [9] Edited by: Miso on 19/01/2004 15:55:22 I have to say I agree with you silverlancer. I don't care about what corps do in game, its all legitimate practice so to speak, but the kiddie talk from certain sections of the eve community is a bit pathetic and dull. No one cares who ganks who tbh. And no one likes having threads crapped all over by a load of kids. I think alot of people need to take themselves less seriously. -------------------------------------------- Dead
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.01.19 16:10:00 - [10] Quote: Edited by: Miso on 19/01/2004 15:55:22 I have to say I agree with you silverlancer. I don't care about what corps do in game, its all legitimate practice so to speak, but the kiddie talk from certain sections of the eve community is a bit pathetic and dull. No one cares who ganks who tbh. And no one likes having threads crapped all over by a load of kids. I think alot of people need to take themselves less seriously. Part of competitive play is winding up your opponents (or potential opponents). I've heard things from a catcher while waiting for the next pitch that'd make a sailor blush. That said, some people around here take it too far. And some people around here need to invest their isk in a sense of humor. There are fanatics on both sides of the fence. And per usual, those are the ones that are most visible and mark everyone equally bad. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Monica Scuro	Posted - 2004.01.19 16:10:00 - [11] You cant take thier position in this game away from them, they love and need the attention they get in this game. If that attention is taken from them who knows what will happen. They have to annoy someone somehow. Take away childrens forum rights and they will let out thier anger at failings in the real world elsewhere. So dont ban moo, in fact lets have a forum just for them, so we can go have a laugh when we are bored, and not visit that section if children easily annoy us.
Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.01.19 16:17:00 - [12] Hey, CCP, how about a NEW SKILL? Sense Of Humor (main attribute--charisma, secondary attribute--perception of the fact that people hate you). Training time multiplier--999999x. And you can't stop training it once you've started . Plus, while you're training it, you cannot use the forums or log on to EVE.
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.01.19 16:24:00 - [13] Quote: Hey, CCP, how about a NEW SKILL? Sense Of Humor (main attribute--charisma, secondary attribute--perception of the fact that people hate you). Training time multiplier--999999x. And you can't stop training it once you've started . Plus, while you're training it, you cannot use the forums or log on to EVE. But then we wouldn't see you back here for ages.. It would be easier to just manually avoid the forums. Also, if you let them get to you, they win. .
Ker Avon	Posted - 2004.01.19 16:31:00 - [14] I find it hard to believe some people get so offened by mere text written ingame or on these forums by people you've never met, will never meet, have no other contact with you other than here, and who know absolutley nothing about you other than your avatars name. If people try to act 'hard' and smack talk you in a COMPUTER GAME its probably because that person is a child or is an insecure adult who has RL issues. It's the easiest thing in the world to be a 'tough guy' when you're hiding behind a computer screen. Some of the comments I read on here and have had directed at me in game have me LMAO - the concept of it really is hilarious if you think about it.
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.19 16:35:00 - [15] Edited by: Tibor Ferenc on 19/01/2004 16:43:08 Granted a small number of m0o members should try to engage there brain before posting on forums. This is howerver not a problem exclusive to m0o. Recently most heated posts by m0o members are a response from inflamitory(s/p?) comments from people in corps currently suffering heavy defeats at our hands. A few recent posts I have responded to have been to correct outright lies used to try to save face from members of the FA. As the majority of EvE players are not in Fountain at the minute they do not know what is going on and simply have to take the word of others. So this means that when people lie about whats going on we like to set them straight. As for talking smack in local both sides are guilty of this, the only reason we may do more than our opponents is that people usually stfu after we have just taken out several of there battleships for no losses. We do however try to keep it respectfull if possible but there will always be players on both sides with potty mouths. If you look at the forums the majority of posts concerning m0o are not created by m0o and if ppl write ** we will tell them its **. btw silverlance "====PROUD MEMBER OF THE FOUNTAIN ALLIANCE==== ===(even though I haven't even been to Fountain)===" how can you comment on our smack talk if your not even there. No wonder your alliance is being destroyed when half there members are to cowardly to fight for it, obviously not that PROUD. http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.01.19 16:49:00 - [16] Quote: I find it hard to believe some people get so offened by mere text written ingame or on these forums by people you've never met, will never meet, have no other contact with you other than here, and who know absolutley nothing about you other than your avatars name. If people try to act 'hard' and smack talk you in a COMPUTER GAME its probably because that person is a child or is an insecure adult who has RL issues. It's the easiest thing in the world to be a 'tough guy' when you're hiding behind a computer screen. Some of the comments I read on here and have had directed at me in game have me LMAO - the concept of it really is hilarious if you think about it. As I said earlier... I just ignore them. This is just for their sake... if they stopped acting like morons, people would hate on them less.
Seabawl	Posted - 2004.01.19 16:51:00 - [17] Quote: Quote: Hey, CCP, how about a NEW SKILL? Sense Of Humor (main attribute--charisma, secondary attribute--perception of the fact that people hate you). Training time multiplier--999999x. And you can't stop training it once you've started . Plus, while you're training it, you cannot use the forums or log on to EVE. But then we wouldn't see you back here for ages.. It would be easier to just manually avoid the forums. Also, if you let them get to you, they win. Well said DM, avoid the forums and its trolls, and eve can be more enjoyable. Less contact with the trolls the better you eve-life will be.
Paddyman	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:01:00 - [18] Edited by: Paddyman on 19/01/2004 17:06:36 TBH i would have to echo what tibor has said before me, i see it the same way. m0o has done alot in the last 2 months, which has effected alot of people. Weve hit SA,FA and cfs very hard, 3 of the main alliances in hte game. which between them is what?? about 100-150 different corporations and about 2000 ppl. This is where alot of the posts comes from, so many people who's corps/alliance has taken losses and they have came onto the forums and flamed m0o about, as as such weve defended. The same as you would all do if your corp was getting flame threads started about it everyday which contained so many lies that it can get rather heated. I will not say we are blameless by any means but you's are the ones creating most of the threads. A corp mail was sent out in m0o 3 days ago to cut back on hte amount of new threads created about corp activites but weve no control over what the rest of the players do. And we wont have are corp lied about without defending it. Also ppl, dont worry about hating us. It means we are doing are jobs right Edit: However i 100% agree that the number of posts HAS TO STOP, we are sick of it aswell and it involves us, so i can imagine how ****ed off other ppl are getting with it. So i will ask YOU'S to relax on hte number of posts you make, and if you jsut want to flame us pick an already existing thread to do it, there's bound to be one somewhere.
Scooby	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:01:00 - [19] Edited by: Scooby on 19/01/2004 17:02:42 I think a lot of people get angry in-game after losing a ship to pirates but the worst thing is having to read the smack talk that sometimes follows such a defeat. If there was a feature to hide Local Chat death in EVE wouldn't be so bitter - just think of it as an NPC that got you and move on. Bottom line, people don't like losing to other people. And having your face rubbed in it is too much for some. As for in the forums, simply don't read 'em and you won't get offended at all!
Miso	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:04:00 - [20] Quote: Part of competitive play is winding up your opponents (or potential opponents). I've heard things from a catcher while waiting for the next pitch that'd make a sailor blush. There's a difference between wind-up and crap. There is too much crap on these forums. Also, kiddies always take things too far. Adults can moderate there behaviour. Fact. -------------------------------------------- Dead
Lord Azraiel	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:11:00 - [21] I've heard them talk they don't sound like little kids "I'm comin' for ya, and Hell's comin' with me!"
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:18:00 - [22] Edited by: Negotiator on 19/01/2004 17:28:08 Miso, shave ur armpits dear plz ok thx? j/k...
Synex	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:22:00 - [23] I have no problem with m0o themselves... however, their constant ganking of players I do have a problem with... there constant use of exploits etc. to attack players that then don't stand a chance I have a problem with... This game needs people like m0o to keep things interesting, otherwise we'd all just be mining etc. with minimal risk... however, I hope that when player-owned-deployables come in-game they find themselves some kind of objective other than spending their time ganking unprotected outposts... Synex
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:23:00 - [24] Jash have you ever stopped to wonder why no-one else likes baseball? Cuba & Japan, yes wow, bring those up. Point is inane trashtalk is old upon conception and quite frankly the l33t, M0o and the likes, seldom come up with anything else. OMG OMG OMG Pwn4g3! Convert Stations
Vegeta	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:23:00 - [25] 2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
Paddyman	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:24:00 - [26] Edited by: Paddyman on 19/01/2004 17:32:57 sorry about the tripple post, not intended.
Paddyman	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:24:00 - [27] Edited by: Paddyman on 19/01/2004 17:26:30
Paddyman	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:24:00 - [28] Edited by: Paddyman on 19/01/2004 17:28:20 Edited by: Paddyman on 19/01/2004 17:26:12 Quote: I have no problem with m0o themselves... however, their constant ganking of players I do have a problem with... there constant use of exploits etc. to attack players that then don't stand a chance I have a problem with... Quote: Point is inane trashtalk is old upon conception and quite frankly the l33t, M0o and the likes, seldom come up with anything else. This is what im talking about, ppl weve killed coming on and saying stuff like this. Except for this thread he'd off probably started another one about us. Stop it FFS, we are sick of it.
Vegeta	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:36:00 - [29] Quote: I have no problem with m0o themselves... however, their constant ganking of players I do have a problem with... there constant use of exploits etc. to attack players that then don't stand a chance I have a problem with... 1. We are playing this game to kill you, that is how we have our fun, dont judge us for that. 2. If a battleship is flying with miners on in 0.0 space and gets blown up by us thats not our fault, thats the victims fault. People should know better, noone is defenseless. 3. We dont exploit. 2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:39:00 - [30] Synex please give example of all the exploits used by m0o and which m0o members used them and I will personaly petition them, O sh1t no I wont because we dont exploit. We just beat you fair and square. See this is exactly the kind of remark im talking about, Im damned if Im gonna let a tard like Synex post lies about us. So over to you Synex pleasestate examples of our exploits. http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.01.19 17:50:00 - [31] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 19/01/2004 17:54:21 I consider the flooding of chat requests an exploit. And no, never been shot down or killed by M0o. Oh and assassin, it's on the house. Convert Stations
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.01.19 18:00:00 - [32] Actually this is kind of convenient you can judge moo members by what they post on forums. For example I¦m convinced that Ymev is not a day older than 14 (please don¦t come and say you are 30years old cause it¦s way better to be 14 and behave like it than being 30 and behave like you are 14 ) On a similar thought I kind of like negotiator he usually has a point and says it. You may not agree with him but he doesn¦t talk bull****. Paddyman seems to be a pretty sharp to. The problem with pirates is that though some mature players become pirate for rp reasons or whatever than the proffession attracts a lot of immature childs. So I ask you players to see the "good" pirates (to name a few of my favorites, Viceroy, Drunkenmaster and Negotior) and don¦t judge all pirates by the act of few kids. __________ Capacitor research
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.19 18:01:00 - [33] Edited by: Tibor Ferenc on 19/01/2004 18:09:50 As do I Daton if sombody did it you should petition. No m0o member has done that recently to the best of my knolage and if they have then they are ***s. edit* Im still waiting Synex or is it going to be you left looking stupid? http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
Soren	Posted - 2004.01.19 18:31:00 - [34] I personally find m0o posts amusing, and an entertaining read. Although there are a couple of members who write nothing but rubbish, I usaully take the time to read m0o posts. _________________________________________________________
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.19 19:01:00 - [35] Synex im still waiting for you to substansiate your claims we exploit. http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
Araviel	Posted - 2004.01.19 21:04:00 - [36] fine whit me as long as they keep it in character and are roleplaying, however when they go into a "out of character" post whit the same "i 0wn you n00b" attidue like the mentioned movie post abowe they cross the line imho infact it is a violation of the forum rules. to be exact- rule nr: 2, 4, and 5, EPIC Recruitment post
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2004.01.19 21:11:00 - [37] Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 19/01/2004 21:12:30 Quote: Synex im still waiting for you to substansiate your claims we exploit. he might be waiting for you to correct your sig still sorry man but it IS pretty funny... ("not my fault it's spelled wrong! i'm blind dammit!") You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
White Tiger	Posted - 2004.01.19 21:26:00 - [38] Quote: 1. We are playing this game to kill you, that is how we have our fun, dont judge us for that. 2. If a battleship is flying with miners on in 0.0 space and gets blown up by us thats not our fault, thats the victims fault. People should know better, noone is defenseless. 3. We dont exploit. OMFG! Spoken like a true Bully! It's like that old defense Rapists used to use :e.g. "It's not my fault I raped her, look at how she was dressed!" White Tiger Founding Member and CEO of Tactical Advisory Group "The Only Easy Day was Yesterday."
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.19 21:44:00 - [39] BH, whats spelled wrong?
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.01.19 21:46:00 - [40] Kamikaze....... LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Hematic	Posted - 2004.01.19 22:00:00 - [41] Quote: BH, whats spelled wrong? Assassin
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.19 22:02:00 - [42] ty
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.19 22:03:00 - [43] LOL so it is ill ge the person who made it to change for me thanx not that my spelling is any better. O and im still waiting. I honestly dont think its too much to ask for an idiot who wants to throw accusations around to back them up. http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.19 22:05:00 - [44] tibor, that person already changed it...
Annoying Bug	Posted - 2004.01.19 22:33:00 - [45] After some decent and self-examination posts by the m0o guys jumps Synex in and pulls in the thread in a complete different and irrelevant direction. I can truly understand m0oÆs problems, but I would still like to see less of those attention hungering posts. TheyÆre dull, so incredibly dull.
Hematic	Posted - 2004.01.19 22:46:00 - [46] It would be nice to see more of a return to 'good sportsmanship'. Not saying who is guilty of what because tbh I've only ever been in the same sector as m0o coupla' times and nothing was ever said. As an example though playing paintball. If some guy makes a nice shot on me I will be the first to tell him 'hey bud nice one'. The same is always true when I make a play on another player. Maybe it's the fact we play paintball face to face and PC games are anonymous who knows what the catalyst is. But it does come down to sportsmanship and being able to lose and win with a little tact and class. I wouldn't lay it all on m0o and other pirate types either. BMC formerly m3g4 have been usually very cool. When one of their members was getting out of control, one of his own buddies told him to chill. Maybe that is because although we are at war we are civil no matter if we are killing them or they are killing us.
Synex	Posted - 2004.01.19 22:47:00 - [47] Edited by: Synex on 19/01/2004 22:49:55 Sorry... I was at work... Ok - why do I say that m0o exploit? Well, maybe that statement is a general... but I'll tell you about an experience I had. A few months ago (23/7/2003 19:02:00 to be exact) I jumped into a system, and Stavros (at the time a member of m0o and still a member I believe) was there with 2 of his buddies, plus what seemed to be 8/9 mining drones each, plus loads (and I mean loads) of cargo cans were camping the JIP. Before the screen could even load my Armageddon was killed and I was in a pod. My pod was then summarily destroyed with no warning. I believe this was a 0.4 system - tho I can't rightly remember... Now, my ship would probably have been destroyed anyway, as it was not kitted out for combat (and the odds were 3v1), but I would have liked a fighting chance. Also, m0o gained nothing from this attack (as I had no valuable modules on my ship) which is why I label this as ganking rather than pirating. Now, if you don't call the deliberate creation of lag to impede the combat-effectiveness of your foe an exploit, I don't know what is. Anywho, the thing that really tipped the scales was the reply I got to an evemail I sent to Stavros after the attack and subsequent podding. I sent him a evemail saying "Thanks for the clone-express, enjoy the biomass and thanks for the insurance". In reply I got "bull**** u had insurance, u are a poor ass n00b with crap equipment.." Now, if you really want to be pirates, at least RP pirates and stop slagging people off claiming they are n00bs and telling us how we've just been pwned by the l33t cr3w or something... I realise pirating is difficult, and I appreciate that you are trying to create your own content... but there is a large gap between pirating (attacking people for personal gain) and ganking (random killing of players). Now, maybe my claim of you exploiting is a little out of date... But your reputation proceeds you. My advice to you would be to get a PR person... a really really really GOOD PR person... Synex Code Monkey
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.19 23:03:00 - [48] wtf? a PR person? were not a friggin alliance...everyone speaks for themselves too...
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.19 23:06:00 - [49] Edited by: Tibor Ferenc on 19/01/2004 23:23:35 "A few months ago (23/7/2003 19:02:00 to be exact) I jumped into a system, and Stavros (at the time a member of m0o and still a member I believe) was there with 2 of his buddies, plus what seemed to be 8/9 mining drones each, plus loads (and I mean loads) of cargo cans were camping the JIP. Before the screen could even load my Armageddon was killed and I was in a pod. My pod was then summarily destroyed with no warning. I believe this was a 0.4 system - tho I can't rightly remember..." Had you considered that the cans floating in space may of been from other victims? Also you say what looked like mining drones, looked like? So your sure of this. So with your evidence of 1 instance you feel you have the right to say "there constant use of exploits etc" when in fairness you have met m0o once got killed in a way that both pirate's pirate hunters and Alliance warriors used at the time. Granted Stavros' sense of humor may not of been to your taste. But all in all this is the exact sort of thing that is the problem. 1 person with 1 example who makes it out to be a constant and on running thing that I am protesting about. After 500 ppl read his post they then go off with the opinion that we exploit at every oppertunity, which is untrue. I have just finished in a battle in Fountain which was the laggyest i have been in yet. After the fight all in local were polite and no smack. http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
Hematic	Posted - 2004.01.19 23:23:00 - [50] Tibor, Don't forget you are also battling the reputation the m0o members set way back in the beginning. The lag fest that was created by m0o in mara/passari. In which cargo containers were found with 1 unit of ammo in them. In fact Ywev I believe it was admitted that they deployed them (although in his words to make it hard to target). The intention by certain corp members has been one of contempt, not only for the game but other players. In fact in reading their posts etc.. one almost percieved that they would be senseless gankers and talk all that smack in an attempt to get people to not play anymore. That is what has come across as a public image in many cases.
Slam	Posted - 2004.01.19 23:23:00 - [51] Just to clarify: the statement from Synex is his own oppinion and/or experience. The official stance from BIG is that we havent seen m0o use ANY exploits in the conflicts we've had. In fact we just had a major lag battle which would have been a lot worse if m0o had deployed drones - which they puposely didnt
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.19 23:30:00 - [52] Hematic yes I appriciate what you are saying. All I am saying is that we have the right to defend our corporation on the forums as we do in game. All I ask is that people do not a. Lie about us // b. belive all the bull. And if they do they know the treatment they will recive. (btw I know my spelling is cr@p) http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
Athule Snanm	Posted - 2004.01.19 23:45:00 - [53] Quote: Tibor, Don't forget you are also battling the reputation the m0o members set way back in the beginning. The lag fest that was created by m0o in mara/passari. In which cargo containers were found with 1 unit of ammo in them. In fact Ywev I believe it was admitted that they deployed them (although in his words to make it hard to target). The intention by certain corp members has been one of contempt, not only for the game but other players. In fact in reading their posts etc.. one almost percieved that they would be senseless gankers and talk all that smack in an attempt to get people to not play anymore. That is what has come across as a public image in many cases. I agree, although I haven't heard of m0o using exploits for ages. There was a time when they (and other pirates) were dropping huge numbers of cans at gates to make it 'harder for people to target them'. In reality (thanks to the threat window) it did nothing other than induce massive lag. This was all freely admitted on the forums. Further down the road everyone (and yes I'll include myself in that) started using it - especially with drones. Like I said though that's pretty much close to ancient history now. _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene!
Mr Blonde	Posted - 2004.01.19 23:55:00 - [54] m0o member complaining about spamming, thats a classic.. I wonder why he didnt start a new thread about it __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite??
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:03:00 - [55] cuz then u would come here and be all like "omg m0o start so many threads and are such egomaniacs". nevermind, YOU DID ANYWAY, SO STFU AND GO AWAY OK? if we dont start threads, someone else does. comes with being the best PvP corp in game.
DogzNutz	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:06:00 - [56] I believe in freedom of speach and believe that the Moo/Cow guys can post what they like. Just ignore em and leave em to play with themselves. :) But I do agree with most of you that they have a serious attitude problem. Every1 loves to be a winner and boast about it but please guys you pick every oputunity to give it the large. I suggest you take a page out of Posix's attitude. He is a RAt that took my maller (During a mission and I was empty, hehe)but when I convo'ed him to say well done he was the perfect Gentleman and we bantered for a while. That's the way guyz. It's was fun and as others have mention you are a part of the game. NOT the game! Play it and live it. Respect is earnt by others not squeezed like the zits on a pubatic teenager.
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:09:00 - [57] Edited by: Tibor Ferenc on 20/01/2004 00:12:10 Mr Blonde : I am not complaining about ppl spamming, I am complaining about idiots like you who either post lies or ppl who dont know what the hell they are talking about. O so dog nuts was I taliking smack in local tonight, was any m0o or were we politely talking with you guys complaining about lag? BTW name the m0o ships that died............hmmmm no you cant because none did. http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:14:00 - [58] look the thing is some people think im cool, some think im a jackass. why? because im both. if after a fight people in local are like "yeah nice fight dude, fair stuff, sux that i lost my **" then ill be all like "yeah man gg, i got lucky and stuff". but when some idiot goes "yeah good battle guys, u got lucky and stuff and we are teh pwn but we lost cuz u guys are all gms, but that doesnt matter, still gg." ill be like "no, u tardface, no gg, go screw urself in the ear with a ***, hawkay?" thats about it. i have great respect for slothe and Millenium, and i think our playtime is usualy very enjoyable. Also DigiCom is great. On the other hand most CFS = n00bie tards, same goes for Cold Fusion. GL HF
Celeste Fegi	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:21:00 - [59] I don't particularly care about trash-talk one way or the other. I won't engage in it, since I think it's silly. But regardless, the sheer volume of trash-talk posts on the forums is a bit upsetting to me. I'm a noob, and I read the forums to try to learn more about the game. (What works, what doesn't, what's going on in the world.) I kind of wish there were less of it going on, on all sides. :)
DogzNutz	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:27:00 - [60] Edited by: DogzNutz on 20/01/2004 00:30:23 Now there is a good reason to stop that kind of talk. CCP wants more peeps in this game and Celeste is not the only Noob that reads the threads. Maybe that's one for you and CCp to consider.
Tibor Ferenc	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:31:00 - [61] Edited by: Tibor Ferenc on 20/01/2004 00:33:27 Thats ok Dognutz, pls dont think we just make up our kills/losses we honestly do take our kill list VERY seriously and it is VERY rare we make mistakes on it and if we do (I can only think of 1 occasion) we correct it asap. edit This was made before dognutz changed his post from agreeing with me. http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
pooti	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:36:00 - [62] Edited by: pooti on 20/01/2004 00:43:19 Quote: Edited by: Silverlancer on 19/01/2004 15:32:48 Edited by: Silverlancer on 19/01/2004 15:21:50 A few days ago, a battleship covered with missile launchers fired a hoard of Wraith Cruise Missiles at me while I was flying in 0.0 space... he one-hitted my ship. He then podded me. Instead of sending a message to him saying bleep YOU YOU PODDING PIRATE IDIOT ALJSDKFAJSDLKFJAS" like a carebear, I thanked him for podding me so that I didn't have to fly all the way back to Alakgur to get another ship . He responded in kind . This is how pirating should be. The pirates don't act like total jerks, they just fullfil their role in the game. And this is how we usually are. You don't get "hey, pooti was really nice to me in local." Or, "pooti was really humble when he wrecked my ship," or "after pooti killed me, I convo'd him, and even though EVERY SINGLE PERSON HE KILLS does this he took the time to be nice and chat with me and talk about pirating and offer some pointers." No, you get "m0o attacks completely ineffectual". You hear from the bitter people who start ** in local. I hate talking . I hate arguing with people. I pirate because that's how I enjoy playing the game, and my game choices have NOTHING to do with maturity. I can't believe how narrow-minded some of you are, it's embarrassing. I've never instigated a * session in local. I've never taunted someone after a kill. I've never taunted someone after I've been killed. (Although I've obviously responded). And still I have to put up with threads like this. "BUT YOU GUYS BLOW UP R SHIPS!!" Yeah. So what. Everyone does horrible in Eve. Yeah, I know my chosen path in Eve **es people off. And I accept that. But FFS, grow up. Hell, they're just ships and modules. Who cares. (Unless you're in ebayer, in which case, I'm glad you lost money). Funny thing is I that most if most of us were in any other corp, nobody would EVER bring up these accusations. We're friendly, we're intelligent, and as often as not mature. A few even have alternate carebear accounts that play in regular corps doing carebear stuff. But of course nobody could ever believe that! We're 9 yr old sociopaths! And get off the "oh they must be kids!" kick. So far the ones I've seen throwing that around have been no more mature than our most infamous talkers. I mean, Miso? Come on. I really love Eve, but sometimes I'm downright embarrassed to be a part of this community.
Stavros	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:49:00 - [63] Edited by: Stavros on 20/01/2004 00:58:47 Keep yapping synex, you only make your entire alliance look pathetic. m0o cheat this, m0o exploit that.. If we exploited we would be banned. fullstop, end of story. When playing within a set of rules one must always be pushing those rules to their very limit, only by constantly testing ones boundries can one become truly dominant at anything. As for the whole l33t issue, l33t could be the pirate talk of the future, you have no proof otherwise, just as jade constantwhine talks in some kind of french thing, we could talk l33t to rp pirates. You can't say otherwise really. TBH you did have noob equipment and if you send me an email like that just after we waxed your ass, making some stupid boast about how your supposedly better off AFTER we blew up your battle ship and podded your ass, then you should expect an equally glib and assinign reply. You would really have people believe that us podded you and killing your ship was actually a GOOD thing for you? Puuuhhleeassse pull the other one, its goes jingle jingle. Your entire outburst in this thread is driven by one thing alone, your a goddam sore looser... See what was I saying about fountain being 99% good guys and 1% nubtards? -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:50:00 - [64] Nobody believes anything anyone says on these forums. Especially if they disagree with what they're saying and especially if the person says "I'm being totally honest about this." As if, if we thought you were lying in the first place, that was going to convince us otherwise? Seriously. Give it up. Discussions about shiat like this on the forums is endlessly, brutally, numbingly, repetitively pointless. Veruna Caseti Ishukone
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.01.20 00:58:00 - [65] We dont exploit so please stop accusing us of it. We play this game and we dont risk getting banned for some lame kills. We respond in the same manner as we are spoken to, we dont start smack, we end it. *Spawn of the Devil*
scouting	Posted - 2004.01.20 01:07:00 - [66] Quote: we could talk l33t to rp pirates. You can't say otherwise really. classic l33t bonds misfits...l33t = power poindexter and stav, you are king of the poindexters... on the internet, you are somebody --------------------------------------- Last nights patch, was, without doubt, the worst ever. Rest assured that I was on the forum within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world.
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.20 01:10:00 - [67] yeah, he is. can i smell jealousy?
scouting	Posted - 2004.01.20 01:20:00 - [68] Quote: yeah, he is. can i smell jealousy? it was aimed at all social misfits...not just stav --------------------------------------- Last nights patch, was, without doubt, the worst ever. Rest assured that I was on the forum within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world.
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2004.01.20 01:22:00 - [69] Quote: When playing within a set of rules one must always be pushing those rules to their very limit, only by constantly testing ones boundries can one become truly dominant at anything. Well, I didn't think anyone could beat Jash's comment about trash talk for total and utter disregard for fair play, but you managed it. Anyone who believes anything along those lines ought to be banned on sight, from any game whatsoever. _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
Stavros	Posted - 2004.01.20 01:33:00 - [70] Quote: Quote: When playing within a set of rules one must always be pushing those rules to their very limit, only by constantly testing ones boundries can one become truly dominant at anything. Well, I didn't think anyone could beat Jash's comment about trash talk for total and utter disregard for fair play, but you managed it. Anyone who believes anything along those lines ought to be banned on sight, from any game whatsoever. Hmmmmmm I was gonna post something but then I thought nah... -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Mon Mothma	Posted - 2004.01.20 01:47:00 - [71] Quote: Hmmmmmm I was gonna post something but then I thought nah... Stupid boy doesnt realise he HAS posted
Kamikazie	Posted - 2004.01.20 01:54:00 - [72] DEATH TO FA THEY ARE THE PIRATES AS THEY CHARGE $ TO ENTER THEIR PART OIF SPACE THANKS TO OO C0W WE ARE NOW OPPRESSING THEM thx, KAMI
Hematic	Posted - 2004.01.20 01:56:00 - [73] Quote: Hematic yes I appriciate what you are saying. All I am saying is that we have the right to defend our corporation on the forums as we do in game. All I ask is that people do not a. Lie about us // b. belive all the bull. And if they do they know the treatment they will recive. (btw I know my spelling is cr@p) I totally agree. I'm actually guilty of going off on some huff guy in crime and punishment for spouting lies. TBH Probably 90% of the complaints are from people who just simply aren't as good of players (or as well organized). But introspection is a rare commodity :). Hell if I didn't get accused of cheating twice a week when I used to play descent I'd not be playing my 'a' game. (used to play by the handle of brom or twin) BTW: I'm no spelling **** just figured his question was sincere.
Raquel DeBaro	Posted - 2004.01.20 02:27:00 - [74] moo, the "Forum Primadonnas" of EVE... just like many other they post "l337" stuff thinking they are "kewl" guess what... you are NOT. Just as pathetic as last summer when the boards was filled with m0o post about them killing "noobs" and "pwning" everyone... PLEASE make a m0o p0o filter on the boards...
Silverlancer	Posted - 2004.01.20 02:38:00 - [75] Quote: moo, the "Forum Primadonnas" of EVE... just like many other they post "l337" stuff thinking they are "kewl" guess what... you are NOT. Just as pathetic as last summer when the boards was filled with m0o post about them killing "noobs" and "pwning" everyone... PLEASE make a m0o p0o filter on the boards... How about this... make a checkbox option to ignore all posts with the words "1337" or "pwn"? . Would filter out most of the m0o teens on the forums. Not saying that all m0o members are jerks... some are quite nice. But there's a few that make the whole corp look like a bunch of a$$holes.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.01.20 02:53:00 - [76] You know what? I couldn't really give a monkey's uncle for who or what moo are in real life. They don't really affect my game play in any way whatsoever (aside from forcing the occasional pvp nerf) and my only interaction with them is here on the forums when swapping jibes or the occassional sensible point with the least rabid of their number. My only niggle with these guys is when they feel the need to trash other people's threads and posting, or roleplay or whatever. Moo have got as much right as anybody else to open "we rule we are the best, we are absolutely splendid so there!" style threads from time to time on the appropriate forums. But they haven't got the right to post wrecking abusive derisary hate-filled comments on other people's threads. (as indeed no-one has). These forums (and indeed this community) would be considerably more healthy if people agreed (OOC) to disagree and let the opposite extremes in gameplay and ideology and interest co-exist without constant knocking and grips. IC propaganda fine! thats part of the background. But all this l33t-pirate vs carebears crap on the out of character boards is pointless spam. Sure, people have a right to their opinions but lets keep that kinda primarily negative nonsense to designated "nonsense threads" and try and keep it from overflowing to stink up the whole of the forums. Everybody already knows what the l33t pirate community thinks of anybody who doesn't blow up a dozen ships a day in fantastic teamspeak orchastrated techicolour carnage. Enough already. I think a significant percentage of ordinary players are bored to tears at hearing how inferior we are because we aren't moo. Sheesh. Get over yourselves guys. Live and let live. If you want to "pwn-everything" do it in game. Isn't that what you tell me all the time? JF Public Forum
Stavros	Posted - 2004.01.20 02:54:00 - [77] Can you say hypocrit jade? -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.01.20 02:57:00 - [78] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 20/01/2004 02:59:52 Show me a thread of yours that I have hijacked with a pointless abusing insult fest Stavros. Thats the issue here. Some guy makes a thread, and your chaps come blundering in with "noobz, carebear," nonsense for the simple point of explaining once again how wonderful you are. Thats the point JF Public Forum
Gyrn Fzirth	Posted - 2004.01.20 03:16:00 - [79] Quote: PLEASE make a m0o p0o filter on the boards... Heh even if ccp did such a thing they'd probably do what so many other pirates do: leave their corp, post from the n00b corp then rejoin their piraty friends. It's what many of them do when travelling so noone that has declared war on their corp can kill them =============== Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
Stavros	Posted - 2004.01.20 03:34:00 - [80] Jade you have hijacked tons of peoples threads, for ages ANYTIME ANYONE mentioned tti or ragnar or anyone you were straight in their like a geek into a p0rn site. Same with all the threads about venal etc, no matter if they concerned u or not STRAIGHT in there with your tired old rhetoric. -- "Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You"
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.01.20 03:36:00 - [81] Quote: My only niggle with these guys is when they feel the need to trash other people's threads and posting, or roleplay or whatever. Jade it would be kewl if u knew what u were talking about. Several pirates are active roleplayers, for example me and Viceroy, him being the more experienced one. The only problem i have with ur roleplay is that u use m'dear and muppet too much. anyway,i know thats not the point, but that caught my attention.
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.01.20 03:48:00 - [82] Negotiator. I'm not naming names and I'm not trying to smear you chaps with the same brush, and if you fancy roleplaying, fine, whatever. Its not the be all and end all of everything after all. My reason for posting in this thread is to say that people with your corp tag have posted "superior-than-thou" l33t-speak pirate trash in other people's threads in unwarrented wrecking moves to brandish their pvp "mastery" in the face of "carebears" and "noobs". I've had my own threads hijacked and brutalised by these people. Continually. And all I am saying is that its not neccessary. And its stuff like that which gains you the rep of being kiddies without a clue. Don't like my threads or my opinions? Either a) ignore them. or b) argue your case without flames and insults and disrespectful jibes. Its fairly simple. And if more people actually followed the rules of civilised debate, less time and bandwidth would be wasted on these ridiculous willy-waggling posts. JF Public Forum
Dracule	Posted - 2004.01.20 04:14:00 - [83] Quote: Don't like my threads or my opinions? Either a) ignore them. or b) argue your case without flames and insults and disrespectful jibes. Its fairly simple. And if more people actually followed the rules of civilised debate, less time and bandwidth would be wasted on these ridiculous willy-waggling posts. Wouldnt it be great if you could do the same your self. After all you always keep calling peaple names and try to little their intellect, so you m'dear should look closer before pointing at others or even asking others to keep it civil. But no worries, you will find some sort of reason and flame me for this post, because you usually always flame peaple who dont agree with you after all. So Jade, you try to keep those a) and b) options you just pointed out
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2004.01.20 04:46:00 - [84] Quote: So Jade, you try to keep those a) and b) options you just pointed out [) I choose option b) Quote: After all you always keep calling peaple names and try to little their intellect, so you m'dear should look closer before pointing at others or even asking others to keep it civil. I respectfully disagree with your assessment, and I believe that my conduct is in no-way equivilent to issues raised in this thread. And even if it was; you must admit that "its okay for me/us to do X/Y/Z because he/she did it" is a bit of a weak argument anyhow. Now, if you do hold the belief that debate should be more respectful, should you not simply take the opportunity to hold me to my stated opinions and look carefully at conduct in the future? Quote: But no worries, you will find some sort of reason and flame me for this post, because you usually always flame peaple who dont agree with you after all. Once more I respectfully disagree with your assessment and would ask you to supply examples of the conduct you refer to in order to back up your analysis with fact. Thare you go "Dracule" ... JF Public Forum
Jash Illian	Posted - 2004.01.20 04:47:00 - [85] Edited by: Jash Illian on 20/01/2004 05:14:38 Edited by: Jash Illian on 20/01/2004 04:50:09 Quote: Hmmmmmm I was gonna post something but then I thought nah... Did you leave that one for me? Gracias... Quote: Well, I didn't think anyone could beat Jash's comment about trash talk for total and utter disregard for fair play, but you managed it. Anyone who believes anything along those lines ought to be banned on sight, from any game whatsoever. Baldour, I couldn't explain the comraderie between honest competitors to you if I had a century and Shakespeare's eloquence. On the field, anything went. That included the little elbow to the ribs in the paint while the ref wasn't watching. Included the pitcher beaning you for crowding the plate. Included aiming an indirect free kick square at the defense's wall. Not-so-subtle reminders of what type of game we played. The rules are the boundary between real competitors and people play to the edge. Except for real attempts to seriously injure another player. That was the line. Did you just wave to your girlfriend in the stands? Our catcher would tell you in graphic detail what he planned to do to her after the game while you were standing at the plate. I'd tell you which hole in your body I'd plant my foot and how many surgeons it'd take to remove my shoe if you tried to push me off the soccer ball Need a hint? Think catheter made by Nike, size 11 1/2. Throw a weak bow under the net and people would question your sexuality, gender and preferred species for sexual partner (homo sapiens never made the list ). We also hosted dinners for our competition for late night games. One team's bus got stuck in the mud during on the field after a rainy game that the whole team help push out, despite being bruised and tired (we had a crappy field beyond the baseball diamond). We always shook the hands of anyone that gave an honest game, giving advice if we beat them and asking for advice if they beat us. And since we played in private schools, we invited one team and their dates to our Senior Prom, despite the added costs. Their school was too small to host a proper one. What happens on the field, stayed on the field. Period. And only the absolute poorest of sports would bring it off the field. That's why I was perfectly able to sell a Tempest to one of the only pirates that has destroyed one of my Tempests, in the exact same solar system they destroyed mine in. I don't need the isk and he was playing his game. Nothing personal. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Miz Cenuij	Posted - 2004.01.20 05:18:00 - [86] Im really getting tired of this kind of thread. Find something other than us to whine about. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".

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