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Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:50:00 - [1] I hate to end up posting on the forum but i have never had my petitions answered or my emails. 3 days ago i reactivated a account i had so my cousin could use it (he sits next to me so same IP same house) upon the 2nd hour of its activation it is banned and on my account on my computer i have about 180 mil seized from my account by a GM. I have gotten no help no petitions answered and no emails answered. None of us have ever bought ISK and i personally don't even know how to cheat in this game im not good enough to do so. We have done nothing wrong but play the game and not only was his account banned but i have lost so much money i refuse to just take a unjust punishment. I'm sure many will say "you had to have done something" well i haven't and trust me ive had time to think it over. I haven't done anything wrong neither has he hopefully by posting this i will get some public attention so maybe ccp will at least answer my petitions.
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:52:00 - [2] account sharing?
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:53:00 - [3] You do realize that account sharing, even sharing with your cousin, is a bannable offense? <-----------> Factional Warfare: The LowSec wars which never happened.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:54:00 - [4] Account sharing is totally bannable. Read your EULA --------
Haxa Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:54:00 - [5] Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby You do realize that account sharing, even sharing with your cousin, is a bannable offense?
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:56:00 - [6] u cant punish someone for living with you and we are on a router this is simply how many people live it was on his computer and even if he is banned i should not be punished we are simply on the same connection and i don't use his character thats why i have my own i can see his screen but thats as far as i go. It is unreasonable to think that i can get banned because someone else on the same internet line is playing eve thats simply not practical.
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:56:00 - [7] Edited by: Callente Riveara on 28/06/2007 18:54:42 How would they know account sharing was going on though? If the computers are from the same IP...?
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:57:00 - [8] Originally by: Callente Riveara Edited by: Callente Riveara on 28/06/2007 18:54:42 How would they know account sharing was going on though? If the computers are from the same IP...? Or paid for by the same credit card, or same email address, or someone was flapping their gums in local.... Lots of ways. <-----------> Factional Warfare: The LowSec wars which never happened.
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:57:00 - [9] Im sure they can track the MAC address or the computer name through the IP im using a basic linksys router and really don't have much security because i dident think i had to defend myself from a game i pay for.
JamnOne Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:57:00 - [10] If they are two different accounts how is it account sharing?
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:58:00 - [11] It was on his credit card not mine im not that rich.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Daedaelus Im sure they can track the MAC address or the computer name through the IP im using a basic linksys router and really don't have much security because i dident think i had to defend myself from a game i pay for. The game you pay for has a EULA which you agree to by playing the game, and that EULA states that if you share your account information with anyone else the account can be shut down. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 18:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Daedaelus u cant punish someone for living with you and we are on a router this is simply how many people live it was on his computer and even if he is banned i should not be punished we are simply on the same connection and i don't use his character thats why i have my own i can see his screen but thats as far as i go. It is unreasonable to think that i can get banned because someone else on the same internet line is playing eve thats simply not practical. Quote: 3 days ago i reactivated a account i had so my cousin could use it So you started an account under your name, then let him create a character on it? Hate to break it to you, but thats account sharing. IP addresses didn't come in to it. Dunno how he got caught though. Maybe he was just unlucky enough to say "this is my cousin's old account" in a channel a GM happened to be reading. --------
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:00:00 - [14] it is HIS account its not under my name the only sharing going on is the same internet
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:01:00 - [15] Quote: 3 days ago i reactivated a account i had so my cousin could use it Why'd you say that then? Kicks and giggles? --------
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Daedaelus it is HIS account its not under my name the only sharing going on is the same internet I dont understand. You just said you reactivated an account so your cousin could use it... IE, its your account and not his?
Trebor Notlimah Gallente Gunfleet Logistics Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:02:00 - [17] Even if your IP's were the same, I dont see why they would seize 180M in assets unless they believe you acquired them illegally. As for the IP thing, me and my brother have been playin gon the same connection for over a year without a glitch. Might need to call them or something.
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:02:00 - [18] ? what i said its on his credit card im not that rich meaning its under his name its just my internet line and he has his own computer out of respect we don't touch each others computer or account as a matter of fact we have passwords on both our computers as well and i dont know his or his account pass
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Trebor Notlimah Even if your IP's were the same, I dont see why they would seize 180M in assets unless they believe you acquired them illegally. As for the IP thing, me and my brother have been playin gon the same connection for over a year without a glitch. Might need to call them or something. they dont got a phone support line they wont answer my emails or petitions they have completely blacked me out
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:04:00 - [20] Originally by: Daedaelus 3 days ago i reactivated a account i had so my cousin could use it Sorry to say, but that is account sharing. -- t20: "So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level."
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:05:00 - [21] Your not answering everyones question... WHY did you have to reactivate your account in order for him to use a credit card? So he could avoid the 20$ activation fee? Im willing to bet thats a breach of the ELUA or whatever
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:05:00 - [22] Drop a note to [email protected] and see if he can help you out. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Tenebrion Darkness	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:06:00 - [23] Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 28/06/2007 19:05:39 I was always thought account sharing was two people using the same account. People saying that this is, answer this, if a parent has an account than starts a second for their child/spouse, would that fall under account sharing? Edit: Does the reactivation part play that big of role?
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:07:00 - [24] with his card.... there is no determinable way to know who typed in the info he put in his password on this site and i did it that is why im fighting for him because he works far more than i do so no its his card and how we manage our finances isent eve's concern this is what happens when u live with someone no different than a brother and sister or father and son bolth end up helping each other and talking to each other. What if it was a father and son situation were its the fathers card and he has to put it in for his son? Do we get banned for that reason and if so that doesent explain why i was seized so much money on my account.
Nicho Void Gallente Hyper-Nova	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:07:00 - [25] Originally by: Daedaelus 3 days ago i reactivated a account i had so my cousin could use it Am I confused here? You, User A, reactivated YOUR account. You, User A, let your cousin, User B use it. User A shared his account with User B. BAN. BAT. ---------------
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Callente Riveara Edited by: Callente Riveara on 28/06/2007 19:04:03 Your not answering everyones question... WHY did you have to reactivate your account in order for him to use a credit card? So he could avoid the 20$ activation fee? Im willing to bet thats a breach of the EULA If i am understanding this right he had stopped his account for a few months cause he was broke all we did was hit the "reactivate" button
Azerrad InExile	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:09:00 - [27] Edited by: Azerrad InExile on 28/06/2007 19:10:02 Originally by: Tenebrion Darkness Edited by: Tenebrion Darkness on 28/06/2007 19:05:39 I was always thought account sharing was two people using the same account. People saying that this is, answer this, if a parent has an account than starts a second for their child/spouse, would that fall under account sharing? Edit: Does the reactivation part play that big of role? A parent creating an account for a child is the one exception allowed by the EULA: Originally by: EULA Only an individual, natural person who is an adult or, in the discretion of such an adult, his or her minor child, may establish an Account. You are responsible and liable for all activities conducted through your Account, regardless of who conducts those activities. You may not share your Account with anyone, or allow anyone other than you personally (or your minor child, if you have registered an Account on behalf of your minor child) to access or use your Account. Joint or shared ownership or use of an Account by more than one user is prohibited. Edit: If you want to be technical about it you could argue that this wasn't account sharing in that he didn't log in to the account after his cousin. In that case it would be an improper account transfer which is also prohibited by the EULA: Originally by: EULA You are not permitted to transfer your account to another person. If you wish to discontinue your account please refer to section 6. of this EULA. You may transfer a character from your account to another account, either belonging to you or another person. This transfer option is available from the EVE Online Account Management web site https://secure.eve-online.com/login.asp -- t20: "So Let us play and enjoy the game you and I both love on the same level."
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:09:00 - [28] lolcat lols at this thread.
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:09:00 - [29] you are making absolutly no sense here... You reactivated an account so your cousin could use it, he used HIS credit card for the monthly fee? So are you on HIS account or your own totally seperate one?
Daedaelus Caldari Xtreme Intruders	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:10:00 - [30] no i do not share it or use his account i am simply fighting upon his behalf because hes working and is banned so he cant talk to anyone here. I never used his account and its his all i do is help him out from time to time and it is on HIS computer his account doesent login to mine nor do i even let him use my computer

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