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EVETV Xyliana

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Posted - 2007.06.29 21:36:00 -
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It's been another busy week in the world of EVE and EVE TV has been out in force to at least capture some of it. Host spiralJunkie has a special report from the Game07 event in Manchester where he met up with Calmdown, Stavros and a very special lady with a Light Saber(tm). Discussion here
In the studio Ifni and Fajung talk about the big news stories, about the trials and tribulations of being PVP experts and there are details on how you can help EVE TV as we prepare for the Fourth PvP Tournament in Iceland. Discussion here
Elsewhere we have a report on CCP's 10th Birthday Party, went out on a class with EVE University, and a profile of what has become one of the most popular battleships in EVE, the Caldari Rokh.
As a whole the EVE TV Team has taken advantage of the fact that we ran a pilot which provided a dry run and from a technical point of view we are hope everyone sees that it goes up from here.
Lastly there is a FAQ Thread on the forums to help with any questions. Feel free to use this thread for technical and content discussions and feedback. Next week as have Hardin, Rodj and Midnighter are in the studio, we have Dev interviews, resident test flight and expert Farjung will be joining us as well as Fangtooth Kasumi to talk about the first view of the New Player Experiment.
EPISODE TWO AVAILABLE AT DOWNTIME SATURDAY
EVE TV Website
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DJ Tamora
BoB Radio Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.29 23:05:00 -
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I heartily endorse this thread/flame/bob worship.
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Calderio
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.29 23:07:00 -
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This thread has been covered live and on air by a bob radio dj.
looks to be a interesting episode
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.30 11:08:00 -
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Episode 2 now available!
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.30 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicFire on 30/06/2007 11:31:47 Edited by: ToxicFire on 30/06/2007 11:30:17 *starts falling asleep* first couple of minutes ok news thats not unknown to anyone who will care enough to watch the prog but after huge section on the ccg kills momentum in the episode.
Laughs as the next section comes up.... old news yet again, its a game ffs don't people realise this :P
Finally something worth while good article on pirate in the desert
Will post more as I watch Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.06.30 11:52:00 -
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Very nice episode. Looking forward to the next one.
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The Ratfink
Itto-Ryu Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: The Ratfink on 30/06/2007 12:02:38 Nice to see the looking down reading thing has been resolved overall great show.
It still seemed a little too serious maybe a few jokes here and there?
I liked the interviews spiral going to Manchester (Wish i knew about the event would have come down i go picadilly all the time!!)
(More event coverage!!) 10 year anniversary i liked the interviews there too
Where have the other presenters vanished?
Rokh video was good
Nice coverage on whats going on in eve
Overall good stuff keep up the good work
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QwaarJet
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: QwaarJet on 30/06/2007 12:00:56 Just finished watching, here's my thoughts.
First part was the wooden style of presenting that I hated from the first show. The BBC News 24 style news coverage doesn't work. Also, your news failed to cover the recent battles in Tenal. I'm also yet to be convinced by StevieSg.
Second part was much better with actual experts (gosh!) talking without a script and in a much more relaxed manner. It was nice talking about the tournament, although I wish some actual details of signups etc would have been mentioned.
I'll post more thoughts later, but overall an improved show on the first one, but still lacking in simliar areas.
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:07:00 -
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Tbh much better and much more watchable, some of the news was old yeah, but last week you were critisied for not mentioning things... you can't please all the people all the time. Even though I know "forum news" it was nice to see it in the EVETV format.
I actually enjoyed that show, felt a lot more eve'ish and a lot more natural, I guess people are settling in :)
One question though, the "new player experence" wasn't mentioned at all, I still have no idea what it is other than the fact I have heard it mentioned a few time. It sounds like a nice catchphrase, but I am left clueless despite reading the forums and watching two shows now what it is meant to be, what it is meant to achive and why the "new players" get developer help/advice (if I remember the first show correctly, as well as the tutuorial taking a week) etc... and its something I am really trying to get my head around
But other than my general confusing regarding it, good job :)
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Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Dobbs on 30/06/2007 12:19:58 Please, PLEASE sort out the volume levelling on the mic :-/
Oh, and spell chavros's name right ;)
And nice to see that Jalipo still can't keep the 1kbps stream stable ^_^
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Treenara Mazouk
Gallente TAKAGI Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Treenara Mazouk on 30/06/2007 12:22:07 Episode 2 shows great potential for EVE TV, imho. This week's show was much more professional looking - informative, funny at times (love those smiles) an serious when needed.
The reports are of better quality, and informative.
Some subjects to consider for your next shows: - EVE Mobile (whatever happened?) - EVE RPG - EVE Novels (Tony where's the book?) - Cover subjects such as Trade & Commerce, Manufacturing, and other non-PVP/PVE aspects of EVE - EVE and DirectX 10 - EVE China (how are they doing?) - EVE Gatherings around the world (Iceland and the UK aren't the only 2 country ya know!! )
All in all, a great episode which promises lots more for the future!
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Hohne
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:23:00 -
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Dunno why but I get no sound... trying to fix it costs credits \o/ ....
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:32:00 -
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plz could it possible to add short coverage of upcommign events and gathering thet eve-tv will join. seems there are tons events, expos, tournament that i keep missing
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Ambo
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:36:00 -
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much, much better than last time. The presenters were much more natural and the whole thing seemed more polished.
from a technical point of view, the streaming was again fine. I watched @ 1000k with no problems.
Call me a big geek but I loved the ships going passed the window in the background during the Ifni/Farjung chat. 
In all, I found it good to watch, certainly better than watching big brother or somthing...
I'll certainly be watching more.
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Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.30 12:45:00 -
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"STREAM ERROR"
Luckily i signed up for ANOTHER account and i'm using my free credits (again) otherwise i'd be ****ed off ;)
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.30 13:00:00 -
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Review as I go -
The report about **** and Roadkill (???) was a train wreck of reporting. There was barely anything in that report that explains what has been going on in the North. Delivery of the info was well done, but it was extremely lacking in (accurate) content.
Interesting that the report on Shrike's titan loss did not include the info that he's back in another one.
CCG - Does Stavros even play anymore? Sooo... there's a red head with demon wings and a lightsaber... okaaay....  
TenTonHammer Report - BoB is obviously cheating. We should all cancel our accounts.
Celedric's Blog - Interesting. Very different.
EVE Uni - This guy's southern accent sounds like the one I used to have. Nice little blub tho for EVE-U.
CCP 10th Birthday - By far the best piece so far. Very interesting.
Tourney - Farjung STILL needs a haircut. This was a good segment, but a bit too long IMO.
Caldari BS Thingie - Nice visuals. Interesting various ideas presented.
The talking back and forth is well filmed and paced.
Overall a better episode than the first one but that's to be expected. :)
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Treenara Mazouk
Gallente TAKAGI Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.30 13:15:00 -
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And here's another subject to cover,
- EVE Atmospheric Flight (when, oh god when?)
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Groox
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.30 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Groox on 30/06/2007 13:24:08 I concur! It was step in right direction. (redhead with lightsabre included)
First news part - well events where mentioned even trough EVE official news service - so old news. Still I think somekind of news block should remain. Unique direct quotes from players involved made it watchable.
Please more discussions with experts! That was the best part of this show IMHO.
Good work however, looking forward for next shows.
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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.30 13:42:00 -
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Farjung, Ifni and Stavros sells, by the sound of things ♥
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EVETV Xyliana

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Posted - 2007.06.30 13:51:00 -
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Thank you guys so much for the feedback and please know we are working on taking so many of them on board.
Here are a few responsesą
The more relaxed feelą next week we will be taking this on board and find a happy medium. More guests on set and having open discussions on politics and news.
The first introduction of the New Player Experience is next week. There will be a opening segment with the players involved as well as having Fangtooth Kasumi in the studio.
Farjung will be joining us as a residential expert on EVE TV and feel free to post him some questions.
Thank you to Treenara Mazouk for the topic suggestions. The stories we research and present are hopefully topics that players want to know about.. so keep the suggestions coming everyone.
Nyack, EVE TV will most likely be at the BOB BBQ and other upcoming meets, as well as a BBQ hosted (need to ask my parents, or well warn them that I am bringing 40+ eve players over) by myself on the East Coast.
EVE TV Website
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Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.06.30 13:52:00 -
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Large improvement on the first episode.
Good job guys.
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Kretin
JuBa Corp Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.30 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Big Al Large improvement on the first episode.
Good job guys.
Agreed, their was a vast improvement in not only the quality of the editing, but also the confidence of the reporters which made for a more enjoyable show. Good work
My only gripe im sorry to say is still with the quality of the Jalipo player, Ive just watched the show and seemed to have alot of problems with the viewer constantly buffering and having to restart it due to errors because it couldn't find the feed.
As I said though, an outstanding imnprovement and if you can sort out the jalipo player your onto a winner
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.30 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Imperius Blackheart on 30/06/2007 15:10:29
Xyliana one other thing, give us DRM infected WMV downloads to watch at our leasure on one machine and you will have my money ;) at the moment I can watch a show once, and won't pay to see parts again even if I want to.
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Trevedian
Amarr KR0M The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.06.30 16:23:00 -
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This episode was a big leap forward, a significant improvement...
Keep up the great work, and ignore the critics.
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.30 16:34:00 -
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Hmmm... okay... where to start...
Massive... and I mean MASSIVE improvement over the first episode.
The looking at the script on the desk problem seems sorted, and it seems like people have relaxed a lot more on set. I don't know whether you guys got an teleprompter or whatever, but people's focus seems a lot more on the camera and less on the desk. Whatever was done has worked very well.
That said though, the set still needs sorting, and the sofa and table need to come back 
The dialogue at times still seems a little forced, but it's a massive improvement over the first episode and flows a lot more smoothly. It looks like people are settling into their roles a lot more, and the nervousness is definatley starting to vanish.
The CCG feature was well presented, I personally liked the fact you left the balls up with Spiral wiping the pillar our in the final cut, it adds a lot of character to the show, there should be a lot more of this. It was nice also to see people being interviewed with a bit more structure.
The profile on the Rokh was well edited and had some awesome fraps to back up the audio. The fleet shots of the long range Rokhs were awesome, moar of this please. (I'm sure loxy is the one behind this )
The report on the article regarding CCP and Goonswarm was intersting, although it would have been better if it were padded out with a few quotes from what was posted by both sides to enforce the opinions a bit more firmly.
The tenth anniversary coverage was kick ass, it's always good to see some features from CCP, and to hear their thoughts on where Eve should be going. It's good also to get opinions from Kieron once in a while. Personally I'd like to see more of him on Eve-TV with regards to Dev-Playerbase relations after what's happened in the past.
The report about the north was pretty sketchy, but it was short and brief enough not to afford a lot of detail. Rather just these guys are fighting here, because of this, and are shooting eachother.
The mining feature with regards to Eve-Uni is a good thing, more of this is needed to show the rookie players of Eve who are watching where they can go for help and advice.
The feature on the upcoming tournament was well done, but I think it would have had more weight if LeMonde or another of the CCP organisers were there to discuss the baselines for rules and entry requirements. It did seem to take up a large chunk of the show, and people not interested in it may have had trouble concertrating on the rest of the show, so being the main feature it might pay to split future coverage that length up with other articles to pace the show a little better.
The Pandemic Legion pilot's blog was a nice addition, and brings a little more of the community spirit into the limelight. It wasn't necessarily needed in the show, but was added and gave a bit of a lift to be honest. It'd be nice to see more of this kind of stuff from community members.
Overall? An immense improvement given there's only been 7 days since the launch. The dialogue just needs to flow that little better at time and it will be spot on.
As for the rest, the nervousness seems to have decreased massively and people look a lot more comfortable, however I still say ditch the set and go back to the Real Eve-TV set.
As for a score out of 10?
10/10 for advertisement (as always, it's everywhere) 10/10 for effort (A lot has gone into realising the community feedback) 8/10 for editing (Some great ingame footage and nicely edited features) 7/10 for sound (still some slight volume issues in places between cuts) 7/10 for content (A bit sketchy in a couple of places but otherwise great) 8/10 for presentation (Enormous improvement from the last Epsiode)
Oh and by the way, free Stevie's hair. It looked way better in the first Episode tbh.
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StevieSG
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Posted - 2007.06.30 16:54:00 -
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Freeeedom! 
A little inaccuracy sometimes saves a ton of explanation.
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Saladin
Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.30 17:04:00 -
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I can't get past the interview with Jason at CCG. The player simply stops playing. I couldn't find anything in FAQ to address that. When I replayed it again it reached the same point and stopped. So, does Jalipo have some kind of support system in place we can contact? Last week's broadcast went smoothly. ----
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Gerome Doutrande
Rue Morgue
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Posted - 2007.06.30 17:16:00 -
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Good improvements compared to the first show. 
I'll make some comments in reverse order of the show:
- Rokh profile Edited well and a nice feature overall. However, I wonder whether something like a "look at this ship" feature isn't better suited for say the print magazine. What you could do alternatively is a variation of the "pimp my ride/fix my flat" shows that are around: players send in their current setup with the intended use (and maybe some problems), and the fantastic ship expert discusses possible improvements (and maybe demonstrates them, e.g. shows cap usage before setup change and after).
- Tournament recruitment This I liked best, I would have expected some short preview of the new rules though (but I guess you keep that for later). Nothing should be changed.
- 10 years CCP Good coverage, good editing, good interviews, good overall length. Nicely done.
- Convention with Eve CCG I could have used a "2 minute intro to the CCG" (if that is at all possible). As it was I found the feature to be too long.
- Non-politics news I liked the "human interest" bit about the blog. Similar things could be reoccuring occasionally. Eve university was quite nice as well. Not so sure about the CCP/Goons bit, as it didn't seem to add anything new to the "discussion"; felt a bit like you wanted to put this in just to show that you are independent.
- Political news This definitely needs some work. News of the first and second show feel disconnected. The coverage of the individual points was too long, and had too much text. Presentation was a little too "wannabe-BBC" for me, too forced. What I would suggest is to put in more and shorter segments (might be difficult because of sources), and to try and put them into a "storyline" (titan loss is part of the "big war" (with a big war logo yay)).
- Intro I would like to have an overview of the show before the title sequence.
- Other Teleprompter/whatever you used works nicely, sounds was better (can still be improved though), presenter desk looked a little bit better suited for conversation than in the first episode. I think the show was a couple of minutes longer than it should have been (I would have cut in the length of the news pieces, and the convention coverage).
Hope the feedback is useful.
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Broska
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.30 17:54:00 -
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1000000000000000000000000% Better than the first episode.
In no particular order:
The Rohk vid was the thing that really stood out. Please can we get more of this. Only room for improvement I see is If you took people through how to set them up properly. i.e. The importance of fitting the right guns i.e. rails over arties on the Rohk etc.
The CCG Interviews were pritty good. Loved watching Spiral f*ck up.
Alliance tornie stuff was good. Farjung and Ifni know what they're talking about. Would have been nice to hear them talk abit more about tactics / setup's. The differances between normal PvP and tornie PvP. But overall not a bad segment.
Eve-uni thing - good for noobs.
Pirate blog - Interesting. Somthing abit differant.
Goons vs CCP - bit out of date but good for those who didn't know about it.
Titan death - Was funny to see Farjung have to talk about that.
The only downfall of the ep was the political news segment. 1st that it was out of date. 2nd that it was too brief / not enough detail. With the amount of stuff happening in the north atm there's enough there to do a decent report on the fights in the north. Would be good if we could get reports of how the battles are going / what alliance has taken what territory etc.
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Xlex Prime
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Posted - 2007.06.30 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Xlex Prime on 30/06/2007 18:02:59 One word: Makeup (consider professional makeup, seriously) sorry...
I like EVE TV and the idea of it. It has serious potential. I like to see recent events in a TV news format.
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