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Graisse	Posted - 2007.07.08 12:20:00 - [91] Edited by: Graisse on 08/07/2007 12:23:04 woah what a crapload of whinner dudes, that was a just server loading test, not a storyline event. I was there and everything was as I expected: frakking lag, grid loading after 5 minutes, 3fps, etc. What did you expected aside from that? You just have to go to the system and warp to the pos cyno, wait and start shooting that was all. I lolzk :l
maGz Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.07.08 12:26:00 - [92] Originally by: Graisse Edited by: Graisse on 08/07/2007 12:23:04 woah what a crapload of whinner dudes, that was a just server loading test, not a storyline event. I was there and everything was as I expected: frakking lag, grid loading after 5 minutes, 3fps, etc. What did you expected aside from that? You just have to go to the system and warp to the pos cyno, wait and start shooting that was all. I lolzk :l Actually reading the posts people write usually helps on these forums ____________ I'm cool
Roninwolfie	Posted - 2007.07.08 12:32:00 - [93] Edited by: Roninwolfie on 08/07/2007 12:32:37 WOW lol im glad i didnt make it then lol , i got a carrier an force recon ready to go but from what i read so far i didnt miss anything lol. next time ccp say how many peeps u are after , dont ask the "WHOLE" community to log in an help you guys out if you are only after 400 peeps.
ThunderGodThor KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 12:36:00 - [94] Originally by: CCP Wrangler To attempt to create load on the server we invite everyone to join us in attacking a Starbase on Singularity (the test server) on Sunday, 8 July at 11.00 to 12.00 GMT. Why thank you for a complete WASTE OF F*ING TIME. I was up at 3am to do this test after all you asked for EVERYONE to come and help. Next time say how many your looking for or that you have enough not till the thing is over. yes i happenned to be ed and yes im rant so tought **. What can i say tipical ccp.
ThunderGodThor KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.08 12:38:00 - [95] Originally by: Roninwolfie Edited by: Roninwolfie on 08/07/2007 12:32:37 next time ccp say how many peeps u are after , dont ask the "WHOLE" community to log in an help you guys out if you are only after 400 peeps. You mean to say over 400 showed up but only a hundred where in the test mabe that many. while the rest of us were left to hang with no real idea wtf to do not even a F*** off we got enough out of ccp.
Roninwolfie	Posted - 2007.07.08 12:44:00 - [96] Originally by: ThunderGodThor Originally by: Roninwolfie Edited by: Roninwolfie on 08/07/2007 12:32:37 next time ccp say how many peeps u are after , dont ask the "WHOLE" community to log in an help you guys out if you are only after 400 peeps. You mean to say over 400 showed up but only a hundred where in the test mabe that many. while the rest of us were left to hang with no real idea wtf to do not even a F* off we got enough out of ccp. lol i dont know wtf happen man i just tryed to log in like 20 mins ago after watching a movie an saw the ** storm on here lol
Krissam Caldari Danish Space bees	Posted - 2007.07.08 12:46:00 - [97] Originally by: Selquita Point of Interest: CCP said it was a Load Test, not a shoot at a POS test. If that's all they were attempting to accomplish, I'm sure many, many more pos' would have been erected for that very thing. actually it said we'ld be attacking a starbase
William Hartas Caldari OcUK	Posted - 2007.07.08 13:41:00 - [98] I decided about an hour before the event was due to take place that I'd join in. I logged on, flew to the appropriate system, fitted a ship, undocked and got gang invited. Then I jumped into the next door system when asked and shot a POS. Once finished, I logged off and went about my way elsewhere. I don't see what the problem is. I'm not a 'friend of CCP', I'm just a grunt but I was in on the test.
Abbassidian	Posted - 2007.07.08 13:46:00 - [99] well i hope that ccp looses alot of the willing testing compunity over this, it has puissed me off and ot be honest lookin at this channel, has ****ed everyone else off aswell... dont expect me to be willing to help you (ccp) test anymore stuf, singularity will be used for testing things i want ot test from now o n, not going to waste my time helping you if you cant be arsed to be polite enuf to either tell us how many people you want in the server, or open it up for everyone (along wioth alot of other sh!t that maby you should have done!)
Ol' Delsai Caldari Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.08 13:57:00 - [100] Edited by: Ol'' Delsai on 08/07/2007 13:57:47 I've just fled my ship in FD-MLJ yesterday, and log in today 30 minutes before the event starts ... Everything went well : - I was ganged - jumped in the system - fire at the pos - experienced 3/4 minutes module / movement / reload lag - log out when the test finished That was the first time I participate in this kind of event. It was not really fun but was a good simulation of POS Warfare on TQ, so CCP has lot of data to play with now... Hope this will help reduce lag on TQ Btw, even though we were ~100 in gang, we were 170 in local including 50 ppl not ganged and hitting the POS For spammers and ppl that are upset, don't expect to log 10 minutes after the beginning of the event and participate in it ... Moreover this was an event created to recreate lag and test some code ... that was never intended to be fun and entertain you .... I really don't what you were expecting/thinking about it for being so much disapointed ...

Tarron Sarek Gallente Endica Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.08 14:41:00 - [101] Originally by: Ol' Delsai I really don't what you were expecting/thinking about it for being so much disapointed ... 1. It's not disappointed, it is angry. 2. Expectations are very simple - Communication - Perhaps a tiny bit of appreciation on the part of CCP for all the players who show up and are willing to help - Not a complete waste of time Is that so hard to understand? It's not like the players wanted something from CCP. CCP asked for help. Get that into your heads. There are many players who aren't bootlicking fanboys. _________________________________ - Balance is power, guard it well.. -
Ol' Delsai Caldari Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.08 14:55:00 - [102] Originally by: Tarron Sarek ... 1. "angry" : angry because not being able to participate in a load server test a sunday morning ? Isn't it a bit over-reacting ? 2. "communication" : in my opinion, everything was explained in the first post of this thread, wasn't it ? 3. "A bit of appreciation on the part of CCP" : The GM present thanked everyone for their participation.. for me that was enough ... what were you expecting ? money ? 4. "There are many players who aren't bootlicking fanboys" : I haven't seen any bootlicking fanboys yet, however it seems there's people here who doesn't respect the work of others ... especially a sunday morning End of Story
Zwaplat Caldari Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.08 15:28:00 - [103] Edited by: Zwaplat on 08/07/2007 15:36:54 D'you know how he thanked us ? "Test is over, now all of you GTFO thank you" I wouldn't call that very sincere. Edit: here, took a dive in my logs: "CCP Zulupark > You can all GTFO now thank you :D" Slightly disappointed by that... ---------- I made a bet for 100M and a faction fitted Raven that I wouldn't get any dev/admin change to my signature even when I specifically ask not to. So please, think of my poor wallet!
Tarron Sarek Gallente Endica Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.08 15:33:00 - [104] Edited by: Tarron Sarek on 08/07/2007 15:33:42 Originally by: Ol' Delsai (self-satisfied sounding stuff) Angry because of wasted time. Perhaps some people can't understand because they have a lot of time or don't value it. However, many people do. It doesn't take a genious to read that out of this thread or the test server chat. Communication was awful to non existant. Quote: To attempt to create load on the server we invite everyone to join us in attacking a Starbase on Singularity (the test server) on Sunday, 8 July at 11.00 to 12.00 GMT. Not 100, not 200, not 400.. everyone. There was no communication in the 'starbaseattack' channel, no popup window telling the rest of the players that there are already enough people. The first post was an announcement. Nothing more. Appreciation in form of proper handlung, e.g. good communication. That includes the time before the test starts, while it lasts and after it is over. You don't show appreciation by treating people like a bunch of worshipping teenagers who haven't shown up because they want to help, but because they want to be entertained and will suck up anything. However some people will defend CCP at all costs and won't allow a critical word being spoken.. "End of Story" Says who? Now that's a good joke _________________________________ - Balance is power, guard it well.. -
Iron McFly CHAF tech	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:21:00 - [105] This Event is typical CCP and EVE Online. 1) Official Website info is far from Full and Accurate, more like Hints and Hype. 2) Greater and Better info is found in unofficial sites, Chat, and Forums; often the later after-the-fact. 3) Hoards ( and Alliance ) have tried this game, few have enjoyed it. Seems even most persistant players have threatend to quit at least once. 4) Sometimes 1st timers stumble into it perfectly, while many vets often spend hours to repeat play experience as good as its past, potential, and looks. 5) Given the above, the whole game has an "Under Construction" feeling as things are added or nerfed, rules change, and yet Lag Persists. For me this past 18+ months resembles a relationship which was hot active lust 3+ months, matured to trying to build something deeper, I did quit once and couldn't stand being single. Now I keep looking for a better alternative, openly dating others. Feel free to add to the "Typical CCP & EVE" list above.
alexis steele Minmatar Black Reign	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:18:00 - [106] i must admit i did not know about how the gm's thanked the players after the event by saying GTFO, sort of adds salt to the wound imo i find it interesting that there has been no offical responce from ccp to this thread after the event. would not be suprised to see a news article tomorrow after the dt thanking everyone and not mentioning any of the "dicussions" held here as for people saying well what did u expect? i think the only thing that people are upset about is the lack of communication from ccp before, during and after the event, people just want to be treated with a little itty bit of respect. a plan is just a list of things that dont happen!
Bein Glorious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:35:00 - [107] some of you guys seem a little bit too wound up and honestly probably shouldn't have gotten up at 6AM on a sunday if you're going to be so cranky
Flowninor	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:44:00 - [108] Originally by: Iron McFly This Event is typical CCP and EVE Online. 3) Hoards ( and Alliance ) have tried this game, few have enjoyed it. Seems even most persistant players have threatend to quit at least once. 4) Sometimes 1st timers stumble into it perfectly, while many vets often spend hours to repeat play experience as good as its past, potential, and looks. 5) Given the above, the whole game has an "Under Construction" feeling as things are added or nerfed, rules change, and yet Lag Persists. For me this past 18+ months resembles a relationship which was hot active lust 3+ months, matured to trying to build something deeper, I did quit once and couldn't stand being single. Now I keep looking for a better alternative, openly dating others. Feel free to add to the "Typical CCP & EVE" list above. LOL wtf , man most peeps here are upset thay didnt get to login an have a go with everyone else like i am but meh an also the lack of dev communication , an u are comparing it to WOW or somthing lol wtf. if anything im happy wow lovers dont like this game , dont need stupid people playing this game an before you compare the balances this game gets take a look at swg where i wasted 18 months of my life lol , talk about mega nerfing , NGE (NERF GAME EXTREME) ( sorry for my bad typing its 4:35 am here in aus an i dont really care :P ) an i apologize for the flame
Iron McFly CHAF tech	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:36:00 - [109] Originally by: Flowninor Originally by: Iron McFly This Event is typical CCP and EVE Online. 3) Hoards ( and Alliance ) have tried this game, few have enjoyed it. Seems even most persistant players have threatend to quit at least once. 4) Sometimes 1st timers stumble into it perfectly, while many vets often spend hours to repeat play experience as good as its past, potential, and looks. 5) Given the above, the whole game has an "Under Construction" feeling as things are added or nerfed, rules change, and yet Lag Persists. For me this past 18+ months resembles a relationship which was hot active lust 3+ months, matured to trying to build something deeper, I did quit once and couldn't stand being single. Now I keep looking for a better alternative, openly dating others. Feel free to add to the "Typical CCP & EVE" list above. LOL wtf , man most peeps here are upset thay didnt get to login an have a go with everyone else like i am but meh an also the lack of dev communication , an u are comparing it to WOW or somthing lol wtf. if anything im happy wow lovers dont like this game , dont need stupid people playing this game an before you compare the balances this game gets take a look at swg where i wasted 18 months of my life lol , talk about mega nerfing , NGE (NERF GAME EXTREME) ( sorry for my bad typing its 4:35 am here in aus an i dont really care :P ) an i apologize for the flame Point and pun was: Many, maybe a million have tried EVE - many from WoW. This is not the thread to compare EVE and WoW, or the peeps playing them. But personally I feel its stupid CCP invited ''Everyone'' to help today. Yea - Its communication - as I said in my first two points you failed to quote: "This Event is typical CCP and EVE Online. "1) Official Website info is far from Full and Accurate, more like Hints and Hype. "2) Greater and Better info is found in unofficial sites, Chat, and Forums; often the later after-the-fact." IDK - maybe we are both right: EVE has many persistant flaws and shortcomings, like boring PvE AI, which are so troubling most 'stupid' players quit, this leaves a more interesting group to PvP ?
Buckeroo Bonzai	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:11:00 - [110] Edited by: Buckeroo Bonzai on 08/07/2007 20:15:49 Edited by: Buckeroo Bonzai on 08/07/2007 20:15:20 I went in know full well what to expect. Everyone *****ing about " oh it was too laggy " well that was the point, to load up the server. For those of you that say there wasn't enough "DEV communication" well how long had it been posted with the date and time? I set up my ship the day before and logged in half an hour before the event. The GM came on told everyone where to go and I did. He sent out a gang invite to the CAP pilots first and when the fleet was full said they were not sending out anymore invites ( heres a tip for all you whinners saying you didn't get a invite FLEETS CAN ONLY BE SO BIG ). But just because the fleet was full didn't mean you couldn't play. I did. I jumped into the next system warped to the Cyno that was up and started shooting the POS like everyone else. Now that being said I will not go to any CCP test event again for one reason and one reason only. When CCP Zulupark (the GM that was running it) said "the test is over thank you now GTFO" that was it for me, never again. I mean damn talk about lack of respect for the players that were there and from a GM no less. To CCP: I hope you got some good info from this test cause I wont be there to "help" again.

HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:34:00 - [111] CCP, you throttled connections during a controlled lag test that was supposed to be nothing more than "show up on grid, fire weapons for twenty minutes." I am outraged, horrified and shocked at this barbaric display. I will be writing congress and the United Nations with my complaints, citing crimes against humanity. To those who 'missed out', chill the **** out already, jesus christ. It was a boring lag-filled experience. Nothing 'exciting' happened and it was just meant to be a stress test. If you're this angry that you weren't able to show up and shoot at a tower for 20 minutes before getting told 'hey thanks for showing up folks' and then logging off, maybe you need to rethink your priorities in life.
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:50:00 - [112] So lots of people willing to participate weren't able to log in? Wow, sounds like a fair representation of 0.0 fleet battles to me. Your signature was inappropriate, email [email protected] to find out why (don't forget to include a link to it) -Sahwoolo
Buckeroo Bonzai	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:18:00 - [113] I got dropped twice and relogged back on and had no problems what so ever. I mean it took a few mins to get back in but that was to be expected.
Chi Quan Jade Phoenix Deutschland Event-Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:59:00 - [114] Edited by: Chi Quan on 08/07/2007 22:00:29 stop this senseless ranting. it was not an "event", like you get free beer and a brezel if you take part. it was a stresTEST, clearly stated in the post. everything was well, trying to coordinate 100 ppl is a hard thing, and Zulupark did a good job in this, everyone warped as intended, he didn't have to punish anyone or forcewarp and was very patient. although he (or she? i'll just refer to a guy for simplicity) asked not to talk in the gang channel, it was full of babbeling nonsense within seconds, yet he didn't complain. when some cap pilots asked for a little time to get fuel he waited for them. everything happened exactly as announced, a larger fleet consisting of about 100 ppl went to a neighboring system and attacked a pos, nothing extraordinary. it was a lagfeast and i am shure serverside resources were "stressed out". now seriously, what did you expect? it was clear that not everyone could participate, fleets have a member limit. don't worry, you didn't miss anything, stuff like that happens regularly on TQ, althogh most of the time on a smaller scale. it was JUST a test, take it with a pinch of salt, the test server is exactly for this, tests. normally there are about 60 ppl on (double on TQ downtime), ccp wanted to make shure enough cap pilots were there, and they explicidly announced it. it wasn't caps only though, about two out of three ships were bcs or something else, and about 60% of the people in the announced channel were invited to the fleet. the invitation started about 20 minutes to 11.00. if you arrived at 11.00 or later, you missed it, standard operating procedure in fleets (if FC says be there at that time, you beter be ready on time or you are left behind). the invitations were random and Zulupark did not ask if someone was piloting a capship before he invited (he did make shure there were some in though). all in all i fail to see why ppl complain, it seems like those were never before on the testserver. edit: and it's a good thing the group was't DDed at the end, someone might have had some faction/officer fiting which is not easy to replace on the testserver. -- Tempus fugit --
Drew Blaze	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:24:00 - [115] Originally by: Chi Quan Edited by: Chi Quan on 08/07/2007 22:00:29 stop this senseless ranting. it was not an "event" Hummm your wrong, read the OP and Title. Testing Event - Sunday, 8 July at 11.00 to 12.00 GMT To attempt to create load on the server we invite everyone to join us in attacking a Starbase on Singularity (the test server) on Sunday, 8 July at 11.00 to 12.00 GMT. ___________________________ Secret Alt.
Zachstar	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:32:00 - [116] Edited by: Zachstar on 08/07/2007 23:32:02 Wow seems like many who are calling for the ranting and complaining to stop got in JUST fine... Ya I'm on yall's case because frankly the bootlicking fanboyism that I sometimes see on this forum is disgusting. This isn't some open source game or HL2 mod where you can say "When it's done (Tuesday)" and "The dev's have lives too" As this is a paid system that is earning them ALOT of money they have a responsibility to act in a professional and realistic manner. I am very glad I decided to not participate in this test. For even if I would have gotten in, the situation would be equality bad. From the posts I am seeing here and the limited amount of looking around I have been able to do in the limited time I have on these forums I have determined that the way this public stress simulation test was handled in the worse way I could have imagined. With my experience in the ORBITER community and other projects that sometimes require a public input or action I can honestly say that this test was an utter and complete FAILURE to properly manage and simulate the client/server riggors of a large scale system battle. I expect the data obtained from this test will only be marginally effective at reducing problems in further EVE updates. That is just the tip of the iceberg! With the amount of time to prepare and anticipate the test there is NO way to justify the amount of failed connections and wasted time of the people involved who failed to connect. If they can't support up to thousands connecting then they ought to not have advertised the stress test so. There are network simulators that can properly assure that people can atleast connect. If it's broken FIX IT then do the test. And any amount of bandwidth throttling or connection blocking to influence the "type" of members connection is completely unacceptable and voids the results of any real test. Then on top of that is the great amount of disrespect shown to the people who were able to connect HELLO these are people taking their free time (Time is money, sleep, family, etc. It can be cheap but these days it's EXPENSIVE) to supposedly help test systems that will hopefully improve the experience they get for the amount they pay for. Again this is not some open source project where you can just say "It's beta, DEAL with it" Money changes EVERYTHING. PLEASE remember that. If you have an observation.. Share it but the bootlicking and frankly rude jumps on people posting about real issues when you have none is unacceptable. You need to stop it and find another way to support EVE if you want to see that much improvement in PR and game stability in the future.
ElfeGER Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.09 00:14:00 - [117] I wonder how long it took to fit a dread under the week. 5-10 minutes? better announce a playtest big instead of having a playtest with 60 ppl and being unable to reproduce lag if it helps to improve Eve then those playtests should happen more often
Da'Lorien Gallente The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2007.07.09 08:30:00 - [118] I was there, it was just like any other test event that have happened earlier. Nothing spectacular, standard fleet-pos engagement with lots of lag. You really didnt miss anything if you werent there. And if you upset about not getting into test server at all, well thats pretty common too. It has very limited resources, goes up and down when devs want. Im supprised it handled the amount of players as well as it did. Quote: Playing on the Singularity test server is completely voluntary. -- Da'Lorien - a space monkey

CCP Zulupark	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:56:00 - [119] Well now, so much flaming that I don't know where to begin. First off: This was a load test, and it worked perfectly. We managed to create massive load on the test server not just in the system the starbase assault took place but also on the logon code, authentication and nearby systems (FD-MLJ had 200+ people in local and that also helps with creating load). This is perfect for us to find glitches. Second: I'm amazed to see how many people think we closed the server/blocked ports/showed favoritism. The server was configured to be open for all, the fact that many could not get on, got 'Status unknown' messages and got stuck in login would suggest that we found some issues that need to be fixed, no? Third: Maybe more information should have been given out to those that had logged in and couldn't get in on the action, but I for one was lagging out badly myself and had a hard time to communicate with anyone. We didn't announce that the test was controlled or limited because, quite frankly I don't think we would have gotten the participation numbers we needed that way. Remember, even if you didn't get in the gang and got to shoot at the tower you still helped. Fourth: My language was in my opinion professional and fair. At no point did I say 'GTFO OFF' or any such thing. I thanked people for their time and apologized for the inconvenience.


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