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Shari Vegas Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites	Posted - 2007.07.10 09:08:00 - [121] Personally I praise lofty for doing his part in helping control the ISK seller and eBayer scourge.
Faekurias Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.10 09:13:00 - [122] Lofty is win, but not even he can answer the riddle that is : WHy is caldari BS crap and Gallente Bs utter win? Mystery grows Give the Nighthawk back it's shieldrecharge!
lofty29 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:09:00 - [123] Originally by: Faekurias Lofty is win, but not even he can answer the riddle that is : WHy is caldari BS crap and Gallente Bs utter win? Mystery grows Cus 2 heavy nos, 2 med nos and 2 med neut > tanks --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt
PhantomVyper Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:39:00 - [124] Originally by: Aeon Xero No friends, no help. mono e mono (that means 1 vs 1). No it doesn't you prepubescent idiot! "Mano a mano" is what you probably meant, and even that means "hand to hand" and not "man to man" like you think!
Grant Smith Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:46:00 - [125] Now, I won't go over board and say that Lofty is uberwin, BUT, he has made a damn good profit in the last 4 days, of making over as many billions. Jealous? Yes. Me and my puny 270m. Love him? Yes, ofcourse. But why, why Akurion did you have to spoil it by opening your fat trap on the forums?
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:52:00 - [126] what do you spend it all on Lofty? If you just stay in high sec, and your tricks work already...where does it go? IMO, in RL, pirates were tricky bastards, so I see no reason to get all upset when a real tricky pirate, rather then a gung ho gun totaing maniac comes around. Just because its High Sec. doesnt mean its safe . You can still get scammed sitting in a police station by the right guy
Savesti Kyrsst Minmatar White-Noise Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:53:00 - [127] Originally by: Aeon Xero Many many posts Lofty has flown in lowsec and 0.0. He simply does what he does in hisec to make ISK, it's how he earns an EVE living. Personally I think pirating for ISK is more "hardcore" than pirating for fun, if we're gonna go down that road Let's not, 'cause it's flamebait. If you are pirating for isk though you'll gank even frigates if nothing else is around; a well fitted frigate can still yield a good few hundred k better than nothing. If you're doing it for isk the means aren't important, just the profit. Kudos to Lofty and all people who make a living out of pvp
lofty29 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 12:52:00 - [128] Originally by: Callente Riveara what do you spend it all on Lofty? If you just stay in high sec, and your tricks work already...where does it go? lol, 2 weeks ago I was -10. 8 months ago I was -10... I don't stay in Hi-sec, but it makes me loaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaads of isk when I do In a few weeks im headed back to lowsec for the upcoming awesomeness. I won't say more tho, or tassi will *****me --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt
Callente Riveara Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.10 12:55:00 - [129] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Callente Riveara what do you spend it all on Lofty? If you just stay in high sec, and your tricks work already...where does it go? lol, 2 weeks ago I was -10. 8 months ago I was -10... I don't stay in Hi-sec, but it makes me loaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaads of isk when I do In a few weeks im headed back to lowsec for the upcoming awesomeness. I won't say more tho, or tassi will *****me Well what region do you frequent? Just so i can stay the hell out of it you know..
Faekurias Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.10 13:01:00 - [130] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Faekurias Lofty is win, but not even he can answer the riddle that is : WHy is caldari BS crap and Gallente Bs utter win? Mystery grows Cus 2 heavy nos, 2 med nos and 2 med neut > tanks But what if you do it the passive way? Although, sacrificed DPS and no drone space :/ Give the Nighthawk back it's shieldrecharge!

Faekurias Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.10 13:03:00 - [131] Originally by: Grant Smith Now, I won't go over board and say that Lofty is uberwin, BUT, he has made a damn good profit in the last 4 days, of making over as many billions. Jealous? Yes. Me and my puny 270m. Love him? Yes, ofcourse. But why, why Akurion did you have to spoil it by opening your fat trap on the forums? Lol I was about to ask who Akurion was, thought it was some unknown poster, then I read the OP and DANG, it was Akurion! lol This so quickly turned into "Lofty ftw" that I forgot all about Akurion :/ Give the Nighthawk back it's shieldrecharge!
NeverL Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.10 13:06:00 - [132] gooooooooo lofty29 ----------------- My dream is to become the best forum warrior there is. Even better then Molle Sir.
Krysta Gemme	Posted - 2007.07.10 13:08:00 - [133] You know last I checked this was the Crime and Punishment forum. Crime is a pirates way, deceit is a pirate's tool, exploitation of people in the outer fringes of law is what makes a pirate. I'm a new player to Eve. This game is a PvP game. Hi sec means HIGH SECURITY, not Immunity. All sectors of this game are PvP oriented. There is no PvE in Eve except for the act of killing NPC's. However when you do so, you're still in a PvP battleground, in PvP space in a very PvP game. You consent to PvP the minute you log in. You consent to be wary everywhere you go, you reap the consequences when you don't. In any FFA game, like Ultima Online, you consent to being a target of anyone at any time. If you join a group, and a stranger you do not know joins... you must realise he may possibly be an enemy. They both might be, you just joined a complete strangers party. You didn't watch your back, you didn't question the possibility of "what if" in a game where anybody can fire on anybody at any time. You felt the blanket of the police would have saved you. In real life, most cities are protected by police and the law, does that mean your naive ass wouldn't watch your back? This isn't an exploit because it isn't up to CCP to think for the player. If this happened to me, I'd have nobody to blame than myself. Learn some responsibility. You got punk'd. Suck it up, and drive on.
K'reemy G'udness Gallente Delicious	Posted - 2007.07.10 13:19:00 - [134] Hey guys, I know that you guys play this game like it's your job and never miss a trick on the forums, but the original thread about this came at a time when I wasn't playing eve, so I appreciate the repost. So, to the OP, thanks for the tip. I'd like to try this on some mission prostitutes myself, and though I'm sure you meant it as a warning, I take it as new tool in an arsenal. Lofty, I don't want to sound g@y or anything, but you give me wood. Sincerely, K'reemy --- Named Item List
lofty29 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 14:26:00 - [135] Originally by: Callente Riveara Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Callente Riveara what do you spend it all on Lofty? If you just stay in high sec, and your tricks work already...where does it go? lol, 2 weeks ago I was -10. 8 months ago I was -10... I don't stay in Hi-sec, but it makes me loaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaads of isk when I do In a few weeks im headed back to lowsec for the upcoming awesomeness. I won't say more tho, or tassi will *****me Well what region do you frequent? Just so i can stay the hell out of it you know.. Well at the moment INFOD are stationed in The Forge lowsec. We frequently go into Geminate, trying to eradicate the dirty residents there --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt
Zardenim	Posted - 2007.07.10 14:58:00 - [136] lofty ftw \o/
Sama Warui	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:26:00 - [137] Am I missing something here, or whats stopping the targets' corp members coming for the rescue? Even if lofty29 gets the right to attack via warring gang, he should still get flagged to the corp of hes victim, right? Deadspace tanked ship should hold long enough to change the gang to warp in the friendlies who will have the rights to fire on lofty29. Shouldnt be too hard to make it work. Just one ship able to tackle and jam lofty29s ship should be enough to turn the tables.
lofty29 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:27:00 - [138] Originally by: Sama Warui Am I missing something here, or whats stopping the targets' corp members coming for the rescue? Even if lofty29 gets the right to attack via warring gang, he should still get flagged to the corp of hes victim, right? Deadspace tanked ship should hold long enough to change the gang to warp in the friendlies who will have the rights to fire on lofty29. Shouldnt be too hard to make it work. Just one ship able to tackle and jam lofty29s ship should be enough to turn the tables. Nope. Corp will get concordokkend. What people could do is send in a single scorp w/ 8 gal jammers. Thats a near-perfect chance to jam me. If it works, they get away with just a scorp loss. If not, they loose a scorp --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt
Ryas Nia Minmatar Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:33:00 - [139] really this would not be a problem if people simply fit for pvp. The reason his targets die is they dont have any defense for his tactic because they setup only for the mission they are going to run. You want to be safe from this, then always run a pvp fit on your missions, yes they might take a bit longer, but you can at least defend your self :) and maybe even get a nice pirate kill in the process. Recruiting Terrorists
lofty29 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:46:00 - [140] Originally by: Ryas Nia really this would not be a problem if people simply fit for pvp. The reason his targets die is they dont have any defense for his tactic because they setup only for the mission they are going to run. You want to be safe from this, then always run a pvp fit on your missions, yes they might take a bit longer, but you can at least defend your self :) and maybe even get a nice pirate kill in the process. Lol. I'm fit for PVP in possibly one of the most imba fits ingame - 4 nos 2 neut dominix. Your cap will run dry in about 2 minutes, and I can tank about 1k DPS Running a PVP fit doesnt really help too much. --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt

Celestal	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:59:00 - [141] Originally by: Callente Riveara what do you spend it all on Lofty? If you just stay in high sec, and your tricks work already...where does it go? He spends it on ships + equip to try learn proper pvp ( you know where the other ships get a chance to fire back ). One of his recent attempts created the expression " to do a lofty " meaning to setup a faction bs with a multi billion setup , enter low sec/0.0 , get ransomed/pay a multi billion ransom , then soon after get multi billion ship blown up . All without killing any ship , not even a shuttle/rookie ship.
Horsefly Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 16:30:00 - [142] Originally by: Grant Smith Now, I won't go over board and say that Lofty is uberwin, BUT, he has made a damn good profit in the last 4 days, of making over as many billions. Jealous? Yes. Me and my puny 270m. Love him? Yes, ofcourse. But why, why Akurion did you have to spoil it by opening your fat trap on the forums? This is excatly why I am going to institute a new tax starting 4 weeks ago. I'm calling it "Lofty pays Horse 1 bil for the pleasure of being his pet tax" tax. I will be expecting 250 mil now and I will be nice and take it in 50 mil installments once a week for 25 weeks. Thanks lofty and have a wonderful day. Now on a side note. I cant remember who was threating him with a war dec, but please do we are currently in the market for more targets and if you feel you make the qualifications please submit it by war dec'n us and the interviews will begin in 24 hours.
lofty29 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 16:37:00 - [143] Originally by: Celestal Originally by: Callente Riveara what do you spend it all on Lofty? If you just stay in high sec, and your tricks work already...where does it go? He spends it on ships + equip to try learn proper pvp ( you know where the other ships get a chance to fire back ). One of his recent attempts created the expression " to do a lofty " meaning to setup a faction bs with a multi billion setup , enter low sec/0.0 , get ransomed/pay a multi billion ransom , then soon after get multi billion ship blown up . All without killing any ship , not even a shuttle/rookie ship. Recent? Haha, K. Do I care that I lost it? Really? No not really. It seems that you are just a narrow-minded troll who doesn't know anything about the person who he's trying to flame... Maybe you're just jealous that I've more ISK than you? Maybe? Just a little? Yeah I think so... --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt
Horsefly Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 16:54:00 - [144] Originally by: lofty29 More Stuff I see your avoiding the tax still. New tax in effect. 10 Mil per post on E-Online forums. Mwuahahahahahaha I be rich me thinks.
lofty29 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:00:00 - [145] Originally by: Horsefly Originally by: lofty29 More Stuff I see your avoiding the tax still. New tax in effect. 10 Mil per post on E-Online forums. Mwuahahahahahaha I be rich me thinks. No. --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt
Shiner BockBeer Go Go Gadget ForumPostingAlt	Posted - 2007.07.10 23:01:00 - [146] So if the victim just leaves the gang after getting shot at but before shooting back, that doesn't change anything?
0ss0 Minmatar 132nd Thukker Brigade FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.07.11 00:48:00 - [147] You simply do not allow a war dec'd pilot to join the gang until all current pilots iether accept him or leave gang. If ganged pilot is in warp then the invited pilot must wait in limbo. Hell gang invites already have a timer, what would be hard about this solution? FOUNDATION Kill Board
Vincenzo Delloro Amarr Lux et Veritas	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:06:00 - [148] Originally by: Dr Slice Originally by: Siobhan Ni Originally by: Aeon Xero one so*****y..... cant even take a compliment i was giving him. you my friend i think take this game way too seriously. this will be my last post related to you until after our duel. All this whining... I can only guess that he ganked one of carebear alts This. Its the same thing over and over again. Bears crying and the only thing they can do to vent this anger and frustration is flame on forums lol. To be fair, whining on the forums is as integral a part of this game as piracy and scamming. It's no more likely to go away either. /carebear and proud of it
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.07.11 09:55:00 - [149] Originally by: T'Renn Hey, Voogru - I don't mean to hijack a perfectly epic lofty thread, but I gotta know how I can book passage on the opux luxury yacht? I see it there and it looks like such a good holiday. What are rates for 3 day packages? I'm totally serious. I want to hang out on the opux. 500M isk. I once recieved an EVE Mail from a guy wanting to see the opux and he asked me how much to view it, wanting him to go away I said "200M ISK"... The SOB sent it. So I jacked the price up to 300m... and someone else paid. 400m... same. No one's paid 500m yet tho. Reason for astronomical prices = keep gankers like lofty29 away. The price does include the ability to fly it on SISI though. But once I get an empire POS, suicide ganking the yacht wont be too easy to do, so I might be able to do public viewings of the yacht without worry of gankers.
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.11 13:22:00 - [150] Originally by: Tarhess I'm not really sure why this is even there in the first place. There's no benefit to the person in the gang at all as they can't shoot war targets just because they joined your gang and anyone who is at war is not going to have their carebear alts join them in gangs anyways. This mechanic seems to be an archaic leftover that at this point should be deprecated from the code. Gang Assist Modules -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.



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