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Brutor Shaun	Posted - 2007.07.10 16:57:00 - [1] I was looking through the shelves in my local store, and all the rest are there.....WoW, etc. Why isn't Eve available in a retail box? I know it's free to download, but surely it would sell at ú5.00, and draw in more people. There's always new gamers emerging, but Eve doesn't really get that much magazine coverage, and unless they know what they're looking for they won't find it! Bookmark Idea - My skills
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.07.10 16:58:00 - [2] It was back in 2003. I had my box until about a year ago when I cleaned it out together with some other stuff. --- Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
The Mantra Caldari Knights of Sovereignty United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.10 16:59:00 - [3] Used to be in the shops, long before I started playing :)
Brutor Shaun	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:01:00 - [4] Yeah, I know it used to be. There's some on Ebay. Why isn't it now? Bookmark Idea - My skills
The Mantra Caldari Knights of Sovereignty United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Brutor Shaun Yeah, I know it used to be. There's some on Ebay. Why isn't it now? There's a proper explanation and a glib explanation. The glib explanation is they ran out of stock. I don't know the proper one.
Gord Ackfordham Fenscore Enterprises United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:02:00 - [6] Edited by: Gord Ackfordham on 10/07/2007 17:02:21 (edited for grammar) there was an article which said that eve was returning to retail outlets in north america... not quite sure when. it was the same article that said that there would be a mac and linux native client coming out soon. --gordo
Krugerrand 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:12:00 - [7] CCP split off from the publisher or something like that. Either way its not really a necessity in the age of the download.
Gord Ackfordham Fenscore Enterprises United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:14:00 - [8] Originally by: Krugerrand CCP split off from the publisher or something like that. Either way its not really a necessity in the age of the download. unless you're on dialup. --gordo
Piotr Anatolev Gallente The Geriatrics	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:22:00 - [9] I want an eve box too :( At least print some up and make available through the online store.
Seeing EyeDog	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:24:00 - [10] Originally by: Gord Ackfordham Originally by: Krugerrand CCP split off from the publisher or something like that. Either way its not really a necessity in the age of the download. unless you're on dialup. if you're on dial up, perhaps Eve isnt the game for you.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Seeing EyeDog Originally by: Gord Ackfordham Originally by: Krugerrand CCP split off from the publisher or something like that. Either way its not really a necessity in the age of the download. unless you're on dialup. if you're on dial up, perhaps Eve isnt the game for you. QFT ________________ DubanFP> Feigning "honor" is just a way to get the other guy to screw himself over, hopefully to your benefit
Sertan Deras Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:26:00 - [12] Originally by: Gord Ackfordham Edited by: Gord Ackfordham on 10/07/2007 17:02:21 (edited for grammar) there was an article which said that eve was returning to retail outlets in north america... not quite sure when. it was the same article that said that there would be a mac and linux native client coming out soon. I would like to know about the Mac client. My wife uses a MacBook Pro for school and currently she is learning to play EVE on my work laptop, or my gaming PC when I am not home. She would much prefer to run it on her Mac. Is there any other info on this around?
Matthew Cooper Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:27:00 - [13] Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Seeing EyeDog Originally by: Gord Ackfordham Originally by: Krugerrand CCP split off from the publisher or something like that. Either way its not really a necessity in the age of the download. unless you're on dialup. if you're on dial up, perhaps Eve isnt the game for you. QFT From 2004-2005 I played EVE over dial-up when I was visiting home from school, it wasn't good, but it wasn't horrible, but then again I didn't try to do PvP or Level 4 missions when I was home either. Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron.
Velsharoon Gallente Endgame.	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:28:00 - [14] Your better off downloading anyway seeing as the release from 4 years ago is rather out of date :) And after Simon and Schuster sold their games division or whatever CCP got the rights to distribute the game themselves so its dl only, but I saw a link somewere that they are publishing a disk version again.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:29:00 - [15] It's because you don't find EVE. EVE finds you. - Sig rotator removed. Please e-mail us to find out why. -ReverendM
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:33:00 - [16] Still have my boxed copy. The manual's a hilarious read, now. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Gord Ackfordham Fenscore Enterprises United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:36:00 - [17] Edited by: Gord Ackfordham on 10/07/2007 17:35:42 (edited for linky) Originally by: Sertan Deras Originally by: Gord Ackfordham Edited by: Gord Ackfordham on 10/07/2007 17:02:21 (edited for grammar) there was an article which said that eve was returning to retail outlets in north america... not quite sure when. it was the same article that said that there would be a mac and linux native client coming out soon. I would like to know about the Mac client. My wife uses a MacBook Pro for school and currently she is learning to play EVE on my work laptop, or my gaming PC when I am not home. She would much prefer to run it on her Mac. Is there any other info on this around? this is all i got, sorry if its too vague. clicky --gordo
Matthew Cooper Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Winterblink Still have my boxed copy. The manual's a hilarious read, now. It was a hilarious read 3 years ago too. Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron.
CrimsonLobo Caldari Southern Cross Incorporated Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:43:00 - [19] Timecards for sale would be handy =/.
Lady Natacha Minmatar Water and Power	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:46:00 - [20] In Soviet Russia, Box retails you! Could not help myself..
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Crumplecorn It's because you don't find EVE. EVE finds you. it's true I will playing sci fi games and mmorpg for a whole year looking for ANYTHING to play other than wow that was a muliplayer space game I didn't find **** unless you type in EVE you won't find this game anywhere. I still don't remember how I found eve :P I think it was when I found mmorpg.com the top on the list was eve online I thought it would be a wow type game or something and then BAM it's been over a year and I'm loving it ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.10 17:58:00 - [22] I think this would destribute a lot to the growth of eve. I sometimes ask people in other mmorgs if they play eve and the answer is "eve ? never heard of it", so seems some casual players (not the mmorg-phreaks that check mmorpg.com & co frequently for new games) even don't know eve exists, and would find out if they saw the box in their local gamestore. But then i don't know if ccp wants to grow eve fast rather then remaining at its current size with moderate growth maybe, as this might lead to lag and system overload, when you all of a sudden have 40 or 50k+ people online. Maybe if they see a stagnation in the growth they can introduce that in some countries ... however, there is a quite large market left for eve, as many people simply don't know about eve's existence. Maybe ccp should advertise outside mmorpg-sites aswell but again, that all depends on ccp's goals, maybe bigger is not always better, and if there were so much people here like in wow we'd have quite a chaos i think and jita might have a couple of thousands in local.
Sertan Deras Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.07.10 18:01:00 - [23] I agree with your point Yakia, but don't forget that EVE has such a crazy learning curve at first, that many people throw their hands up and move elsewhere even if they do know the game exists. It's like a Tootsie-pop. No one actually cares about the candy coated shell, they want the damn tootsie center, but you have to work down the candy shell first (hopefully not breaking any teeth in the process) and then you get the tasty, tasty tootsie center. Mmm, tootsie center. So yah, that's my annoyingly stupid analogy for the day.
marioman Caldari Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.07.10 18:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Seeing EyeDog Originally by: Gord Ackfordham Originally by: Krugerrand CCP split off from the publisher or something like that. Either way its not really a necessity in the age of the download. unless you're on dialup. if you're on dial up, perhaps Eve isnt the game for you. So uneducated about this. Ive played EVE on dialup 2 out of 3 years. I did everything on dialup as I do now on DSL. I even did fleet battle with Teamspeak, could talk and listen with no issues. EVE itself uses hardly any bandwidth because of the way it was made, and was initially designed with dialup in mind. Actually 56k is in the system requirements
Gord Ackfordham Fenscore Enterprises United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.07.10 18:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba I think this would distribute a lot to the growth of eve. I sometimes ask people in other mmorpgs if they play eve and the answer is "eve ? never heard of it", so seems some casual players (not the mmorg-phreaks that check mmorpg.com & co frequently for new games) even don't know eve exists, and would find out if they saw the box in their local gamestore. snip however, there is a quite large market left for eve, as many people simply don't know about eve's existence. Maybe ccp should advertise outside mmorpg-sites aswell but again, that all depends on ccp's goals snip. ++ CCP needs to advertise EvE more if they want a bigger population. word of mouth is nice, but doesn't seem to be enough. Hopefully with a retail box returning to stores, population will go up. --gordo
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.10 19:18:00 - [26] Originally by: Brutor Shaun I was looking through the shelves in my local store, and all the rest are there.....WoW, etc. What's a 'local store'? Oh wait..you mean one of those old..er..now what were they called..shops! That's the one. I remember them. Are they still around? Wow. Mind you it took a while for the horse and cart to die out. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] *This is not* a signature**
Wagstaff	Posted - 2007.07.10 19:29:00 - [27] Originally by: Andrue Oh wait..you mean one of those old..er..now what were they called..shops! That's the one. I remember them. Are they still around? Exactly - these days game stores mostly sell console stuff. Console or PC they also sell only brand new games or used games they got for cheap. Actually getting a distribution deal is tough, and neither distributors or store owners want to stock a 3 or 4 year old game. Long term more and more stuff will end up getting distributed over the Internet with stuff like Steam and Direct2Drive, though Internet distribution seems to be taking its sweet time getting off the ground. Possibly a better way to go, if CCP wanted to burn some money, would be to put a trial account CD as a freebie into some issue of a gaming magazine. If Eve wins whatever award, that might be a good move.
Silver Night Caldari Intergalactic Combined Technologies THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.07.10 19:49:00 - [28] A I understand it, CCP purchased the publishing rights back from their publisher. Guess they felt they weren't doing a good enough job or something. Anyway, player numbers started to go up way faster after that. It would be cool to see Eve in stores though. Maybe time it with one of the expansions, so they can drum up a little publicity. Think of all the innocent noobs, not knowing what they have just blundered into. Maybe thinking, "Oh, WOW in space!"... It would be glorious. -------------- Director. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
Gord Ackfordham Fenscore Enterprises United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2007.07.10 19:49:00 - [29] Originally by: Wagstaff Possibly a better way to go, if CCP wanted to burn some money, would be to put a trial account CD as a freebie into some issue of a gaming magazine. If Eve wins whatever award, that might be a good move. with the massive invention referred to as "the internets", do people still order magazines? --gordo
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.07.10 20:07:00 - [30] I'll bet the new slim case trial version disks they are going to put out are going to be timed with the new client.. I don't really think the state of the current client and servers could handle a massive influx of new members with the exposure a retail box would give Eve at this time.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.07.11 00:13:00 - [31] Originally by: Matthew Cooper Originally by: Winterblink Still have my boxed copy. The manual's a hilarious read, now. It was a hilarious read 3 years ago too. No, it was hilarious at launch. It's just gotten even funnier/sadder since then. I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.11 00:25:00 - [32] In the beginning it was, though I never saw it. Maybe not in the US or something. I saw a strategy guide for it once though. It would be nice if it popped up in stores. What they need to do is what WOW does with its 2-week trials, and thats have a box of disks by the registers for like 2 bucks (cost of the disk and short instruction manual). _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
PeaceThroughBlood	Posted - 2007.07.11 00:29:00 - [33] Who here still has the concept art book that came with the special pre-order verison? ::raises hand::
Sevarus James Minmatar Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:13:00 - [34] You think the manual is a hoot? I've got the original store box/docs/discs........AND the greatest EVE comedy, EVER....(drumroll): The PRIMA GUIDE! (oh gods whatta book. hee hee.) Ubuntu 3d Beryl-Linux Desktop+EVE
Bobo Biggles Gallente B.Biggles Corp	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:18:00 - [35] Originally by: marioman Ive played EVE on dialup 2 out of 3 years. I did everything on dialup as I do now on DSL. I even did fleet battle with Teamspeak, could talk and listen with no issues. EVE itself uses hardly any bandwidth because of the way it was made, and was initially designed with dialup in mind. Actually 56k is in the system requirements Aww man... I thought that ment that you had to earn 56k a year before you were allowed to play. All this time I could have been playing rather than trying to find a better paying job.
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:47:00 - [36] Making those boxes doesn't cost really any money. But you would wonder what those filthy shop owners ask for just to have you beautiful and shiny product sitting on their shelfs. And think of all those (american) carebears that take them boxes back into the shop because they broke their ships by themselves. That would cost you billions! -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
IamBen Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:48:00 - [37] We are way to cool for shelves.
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.11 02:13:00 - [38] Damn you sevaraus I knew I shoulda bought that guide when I saw it. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Xrak Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.11 03:05:00 - [39] CCP has eve adverts all over the place. From Google ads, to gaming sites, to social networking sites. If you arent seeing any eve ads, maybe you should try looking at something other then pron. Sig stolen from Tekka. Evemail him for details about free sigs. <3
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.07.11 03:12:00 - [40] Originally by: Xrak If you arent seeing any eve ads, maybe you should try looking at something other then pron. But think how many subscribers CCP could bring in if they advertised there????? The servers would be dooooooomed! I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
Rhaegor Stormborn Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2007.07.11 03:37:00 - [41] Didn't read the thread, but a box release of Eve will be on store shelves soon once again. Expect a crap ton more players (And lag and desyncs) when it happens. RISE Recruitment Thread
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.11 04:16:00 - [42] strokes his EvE box ex-Occassus Republica <3
Omard Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.07.11 04:25:00 - [43] I'm also a video game retailer and I can say with upmost certainty I could sell this game to just about anyone who plays or is even considering playing an MMO. I would consider it a wise decision for CCP to put the game into retail circulation. Although I do understand the difficulties of that being an independent developer... ----------- I pay $15 bucks a month to shoot a fake beam at a fake rock to make fake rocks into fake minerals to make fake ships in a fake galaxy, AND I CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF IT!
Sazumaan Johnza Minmatar Skill Level Six Ground Zeero	Posted - 2007.07.11 04:33:00 - [44] Why isn't EVE on the #1 online advertising platform? Google Adwords CPA campaign, worldwide, $5 USD per trial signup. Very effective, very cheap. Pay for results only. I have been in contact with Magnus but they're not really interested :( "Eve is more filling than roast steaks slowly grilling over a rotating fire whilst marinating in a combination of Australian fruity wines and the best imported herbs..." - SChimera [16.4.07]
Del Narveux Obsidian Angels Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.11 04:55:00 - [45] Originally by: Xrak CCP has eve adverts all over the place. From Google ads, to gaming sites, to social networking sites. If you arent seeing any eve ads, maybe you should try looking at something other then pron. But this still means the only people who see them are hardcore internet types. One of the big reasons WOW has done so well is theyre good at targeting more casual gamers who dont visit gaming sites on a daily basis. Its a huge market and not everyone is taken with the existing 'mainstream' choices, CCP would be very smart to get a piece of the action. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Torquemanda Corteaz Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.07.11 05:07:00 - [46] Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 11/07/2007 05:08:13 I still have my copy of it... ccp stopped publishing it as nearly everyone and their mother has a connection capable of downloading the full client (its an mmo after all) Why go spend 20 or 30 quid on a hard copy when you can download it for free? ^^^ one of the reasons WoW is so popular is because its WARCRAFT... by your logic guild wars should be doing just aswell
Kira Metari	Posted - 2007.07.11 05:13:00 - [47] Just a random FYI: The reason EvE isnt a retail product in box stores is simple: Its to expensive, because if you dont 1) publish a lineup of games that the stores "want" to carry, and/or 2) commit to a certain level of advertising, big chains just arent interested. Space = money to a box store, and unless something is either well known (or will be due to expected magazine/webzine articles/reviews)or well advertised (think advertising commitment in the millions if not 10's of millions if you want Best Buy to even sit down and talk with you) they dont see any reason to give it shelf space over something that is better known or advertised. This is why every design house wants a "publisher". Take Vivendi for instance. Most of Vivendi's game lineup is utter crap, and alot of it isnt well advertised. BUT. Vivendi has WoW. If you are a large chain, you either agree to carry X amount of Vivendi's random crap, or you get less/no WoW. Same principle regarding those crappy movie-spinoff games. Movie spinoff games are usually crap, but they are well advertised and promoted, so they get carried (in large quantities) because of the publicity and advertising commitments. Regarding CCP (and other dev houses) and publishers, the publishers usually "control" the whole sales/marketing process. If I recall an interview with Magnus correctly, buying out the publishing rights allowed CCP to set their own advertising agenda, and market the game online via DDL. Thus the Penny Arcade, and other such ads combined with trial DLs and such. In hindsight, it was probably one of the best business decisions ever made by CCP. (Old media companies , especially 5 years ago, were not dealing well with adapting to new digital marketplace.)But basically if your publisher doesnt feel like marketing you, you usually are screwed. Also, I personally expect a retail version of EvE to be launched soon as well. When the DX10 version comes out, and looks all shiney and new, and grabs alot of attention I expect CCP will respond with a retail box version to sell at full price. The aquisition of White Wolf was probably also partly driven by this, because WW also brought some distrobution channels and expertise with them. They may not be able to get into BigBoxStore by themselves, but can at least get it carried by the wholesalers that typically supply smaller retail operations. [Incedentally this is the primary reason Digital D/L distrobution hasnt caught on. Generally speaking (there are a couple exceptions) retailers do NOT want a DDL (digi d/l) version of a game to come out, because it is percieved as hampering retail sales. So not offering a DDL especially at release is often necesarry if you want a chain store to carry your title. This is also why no DDL of WoW at release, because it would have given Vivendi alot less leverage over the retailers overall. Same principle everytime you think "wtf does this game not have a DDL". Its not cause the Devs dont want one, its because the publishers/retailers dont.]
Gorefacer	Posted - 2007.07.11 08:33:00 - [48] Downloading the game was a big plus to me. Now that I have the game I have no reason for a box. But if it was shown/advertised in stores extensively maybe I wouldn't have discovered the game 3years after it was launched. Boxes in stores would be great for people that don't know about the game yet. "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus
Brolie Sarcastrophic Industries	Posted - 2007.07.11 08:34:00 - [49] Edited by: Brolie on 11/07/2007 08:34:16 I still have some of the old boxes, even a manual
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.07.11 10:16:00 - [50] i got the original cd with key and book ^^ ->My Vids<-
InstinctWank	Posted - 2007.07.11 10:26:00 - [51] Originally by: Gord Ackfordham Edited by: Gord Ackfordham on 10/07/2007 17:02:21 (edited for grammar) there was an article which said that eve was returning to retail outlets in north america... not quite sure when. it was the same article that said that there would be a mac and linux native client coming out soon. How long ago was that? Eve for mac would be so awsome.

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