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Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.12 04:12:00 - [31] Originally by: Niina If my HD would co-operate even a bit and record the damn fraps whit better than 1 FPS, i would use it :) i have similar issues that Lowa did explain, had good fraps of nice battles, just to see that FPS dropped in few key moments to 15 from forced 30 resulting in less data = quality loss when speeded up, and if i understood correctly this thing would fix exactly that ? Well as long as your FPS on your FRAPS is at least 15, it'll look fine at 30 when sped up. Basically what it'll allow you to do is take FRAPS that doesn't have enough frames to make a full X FPS and make it have enough for that X. So if you have something at 10 FPS that stutters a lot, and you want to double its speed, this could fix its stutter and raise the FPS to 15, and then you could double it yourself in your movie editor to a final 30. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Lore Isander Caldari Paisti	Posted - 2007.07.12 04:41:00 - [32] Sounds nifty :o My computer is not a performance monster so my fraps tends to be a little laggy --- How do I shot web?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.12 16:59:00 - [33] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/07/2007 16:59:17 An update on this: a script has been written to do this, and it works too... for about 20 frames. Then it crashes. More coming as it is fixed 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.07.12 17:29:00 - [34] Originally by: Dark Shikari Well as long as your FPS on your FRAPS is at least 15, it'll look fine at 30 when sped up. The question is: Do you want the final output at 30fps or would a 24fps output be more aesthetically pleasing! But then that's both splitting hairs, redundant if the script is fully adjustable, and the subject for a different topic of discussion!
Ask Unbeatable Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.12 17:47:00 - [35] I would definately use this.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.12 19:52:00 - [36] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/07/2007 19:51:38 Originally by: Greme Originally by: Dark Shikari Well as long as your FPS on your FRAPS is at least 15, it'll look fine at 30 when sped up. The question is: Do you want the final output at 30fps or would a 24fps output be more aesthetically pleasing! But then that's both splitting hairs, redundant if the script is fully adjustable, and the subject for a different topic of discussion! 30 is better because FRAPS doesn't take video at 24 . 30 requires 25% more bitrate (obviously), but looks a lot smoother for high-motion video. It also requires 25% more CPU to decode, of course. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.07.12 21:58:00 - [37] 30fps is nice and smooth. However 24fps tends to give an epic cinema feel combined with widescreen (as 23.97 is the standard fps for more movies). The dropped framerate gives it that classic film dreamy look. If you run a quick test you'll see.
Scarcus Caldari Stain of Mind	Posted - 2007.07.12 22:59:00 - [38] I just want to say thanks for creating tools to simply the encoding process, etc. Your encoder is sweet. I used to use Stoik but yours produces a cleaner/higher quality video. Once NOL has been purged with cleansing fire, and all the vassals are put to the sword, I'm sure we'll have a lovely little cold war, your bloc and ours. Originally by: KIATolon Chowdown, if you use your t
Acidictadpole Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.07.13 09:44:00 - [39] Nice find. My biggest problem with fraps is the actual drop in gameplay framerate when activated. I have a pretty decent computer, and running in fullscreen my FPS goes from 70++ to below 20. I run the game at a relatively high resolution, 1680x1050 as it's the native resolution of my monitor. If something could be found for actually creating the videos more efficiently than FRAPS (I have little to no experience in how fraps does what it does, I can just imagine it takes screenshots every x milliseconds and saves them as a video) that could eliminate the "stutter" altogether. But again, since I don't know the intricacies behind FRAPS so I dont know if a more efficient solution is even possible or whatnot. My high resolution is what screws me over, the look gets very blurred when I run at anything but 1680x1050, and I run fraps capturing at half-size. Which yields a little distorted (maybe wide screen) of 800x600. So fraps is very much highly inefficient for me :(
Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara	Posted - 2007.07.13 10:19:00 - [40] Yes please DS A new tool in the fight for balance?
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.13 21:41:00 - [41] Right so here is my next question sparked by some replies in here... If I was to run the No Sync option in FRAPS that I have found brings the FPS to what ever value you choose with the added effect of that sometimes when played it is 50% faster than without the No Sync option...erm...wait... I just realized that I have not expressed my self clearly but I'm not sure how I would explain it really...simply because I'm not sure what the No Sync does. Lets try again... I record with No Sync and when I play the file in Media Player its twice as fast as clips recorded without No Sync. Why? And what would this software bring to such clips? Nothing? Make it run "normal speed"? /Lowa - hot damn I'm a noob! What if the truth was something else?
Ami Nizuo	Posted - 2007.07.14 04:33:00 - [42] Edited by: Ami Nizuo on 14/07/2007 04:33:03 alt post ftl
MellaRinn Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.14 04:34:00 - [43] this is for the ultra win :D P.S. will you also look into batch-running option in your encoder pretty please? ♥♥♥ My Vids - Click
Greme Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.07.14 10:33:00 - [44] Edited by: Greme on 14/07/2007 10:38:16 Edited by: Greme on 14/07/2007 10:35:26 Originally by: Lowa No-sync stuff From what I can guess, No-Sync cuts the synchronisation between the fps output of the material to be recorded (i.e. EVE's fps), and the fps at which fraps records the footage. Normally when Synchronisation is on, Fraps will lock the fps of eve to whatever fps it is recording video at (i.e. force EVE to play at 30fps), and then synchronise itself up with that fps so that each output frame from eve times up exactly with each video "snapshot" that fraps takes. This means that each frame recorded is a fram that was displayed by the game and everything should look smooth. Similar to how Vsync works between games and monitors. Clicking the no-sync button I guess tells it not to synchronise its recording with the program, which could lead to skipped/torn frames etc. Either that, or probably more simply and realistically (as I have no idea why anyone would want to desync the two framerates), it may be a part of the sound recording of fraps, and tell fraps not to bother to sync up sound to video. That's my two guesses on the matter And whatever it does, from experience it tends to make videos turn out horrible.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.14 21:13:00 - [45] Good news and bad news, I'll do the bad news first. The bad news is that MVTools is not meant to do what I'm doing with it. At all. It really isn't. In fact, its pretty much guaranteed to crash with what I'm doing. The only way to make it work is with an incredibly atrocious hack. The good news is that I got that atrocious hack to work very well, and its now a single-click script! Coming tomorrow 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!

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