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Carey
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Posted - 2004.01.27 07:41:00 -
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1. You put in months of hard work only to lose it all in a few seconds to some heartless soul you trusted.
2. Too many people exploit game bugs and CCP does not ban them.
3. Lamers placing 1 trit for 10,000,000 isk on the market.
4. A major bp scam pot in escrow.
5. Everyone tries to out deceive the next person making the game one huge pool of liars.
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K'thang
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Posted - 2004.01.27 07:43:00 -
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 Hear hear, I could not agree more! Word!
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Skillshot
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Posted - 2004.01.27 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Skillshot on 27/01/2004 07:45:49
ctd's causing ship/item losses and the gm's say our logs dont show anything when your have sent them a copie of the crash.dmp
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Carey
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Carey on 27/01/2004 08:01:16
7. Servers crashing when people actually want to have a fun large scale fleet battle. Seems to me the only fun aspect and upside of the game are the large scale battles... but... server cant even support it... Hmmmm.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:24:00 -
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8. People who lose items/money through their own naivety and/or stupidity and then proceed to whinge about it on the forums as though its poor game design rather than something known as 'a fact of life' that adds to gameplay.
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Harakiri
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:32:00 -
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Carey:
Where is the other 995 ?
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:32:00 -
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9. So many whiners and snivelling complainers.
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Treelani
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:32:00 -
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10. People stupid enough to buy 1 trit for 10 mil, and stupid enough not to know how to use escrow!
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Gilbert
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:37:00 -
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My opinion on the topic here
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:41:00 -
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okey il come up with something soon(tm)
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Torath
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:47:00 -
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11. Player who think that by posting on the forum about a minor issue they don't like. Thinking CCP will refund all and send you back into game with a pat on the back for telling them.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Sara Kerrigan on 27/01/2004 10:11:09
I'm more disappointed by players than by the game. Unfortunately things like honesty, respect, manners can't be coded in.
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Shittake
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:07:00 -
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12. The obvious lack of basic testing when it come to CONTAINERS of all types. They fix jesttison container sharing, screw up secured container display when in cargo hold. This really shouldn't take that much to fix AND it would make alot of people happy.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sara Kerrigan on 27/01/2004 10:11:09
I'm more disappointed by players than by the game. Unfortunately things like honesty, respect, manners can't be coded in.
It would get boring fast if everyone had the same values. You need the underhanded, lying, cheating so that a comparison can be made and the honest loyal and trustworthy can be noticed.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Relentless
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:37:00 -
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Eve's fundamental flaw is that the sh*t rises to the top. Eve is built for the scammer/griefer. From ore theft to escrow and market scams to corp theft to hiding behind alts, this game is heavily weighted to those without conscience.
It's easy to blame people's stupidity for making a mistake, but a single slip can mean months of work transferred to some useless brat. And because of a game environment thats intentionally designed for con artists to work without consequence, theres a constant minefield of moronic tactics out there, and sooner or later the chances are you will slip up. All it takes is pushing the wrong button once when you're tired or in a hurry.
The richest players in Eve are the ones who spend all their time trying to steal other peoples work, because the game makes it pay off.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:48:00 -
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The richest players in Eve are the ones who spend all their time trying to steal other peoples work, because the game makes it pay off.
Seriously, you actually believe the opposite is true in real life? If you do, you need to take off the rose coloured glasses.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:52:00 -
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True LOL. Eve mirrors real life so much it is scary. 
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:57:00 -
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Whiners blaming CCP for the machiavellian thinking of players. Players scam and cheat on you, not CCP.
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Theodin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:08:00 -
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Quote:
Eve's fundamental flaw is that the sh*t rises to the top. Eve is built for the scammer/griefer. From ore theft to escrow and market scams to corp theft to hiding behind alts, this game is heavily weighted to those without conscience.
It's easy to blame people's stupidity for making a mistake, but a single slip can mean months of work transferred to some useless brat. And because of a game environment thats intentionally designed for con artists to work without consequence, theres a constant minefield of moronic tactics out there, and sooner or later the chances are you will slip up. All it takes is pushing the wrong button once when you're tired or in a hurry.
The richest players in Eve are the ones who spend all their time trying to steal other peoples work, because the game makes it pay off.
Be vigilant at all times and you will save yourself a lot of lost isk. Yes there are many scams out there but they are easy to overcome.
These issues are part of every day life, you have used car salesmen trying to sell you duff cars and investment scams to name just 2. We all have to learn and to understand when we are being sold a rotten egg. Its part of life and thus part of Eve.
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Feral Fury
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:26:00 -
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*Sighs*
All this "It's just like real life so deal with it" bull is getting so tired.
It's not like real life. In real life there are laws, a police force and consequences resulting from your actions. If you "scam" someone then you end up facing the law or in hospital.
OK, so there are people who get away with it sometimes but generally it catches up with you.
All MMORPGs create a "risk free, low consequence" environment were the less socially developed can have a giggle. With EVE being an "adult" game (more mature in it's outlook) it hits harder when "teenage" morality comes to play.
You don't believe me? Try pulling some of the EVE scams in RL and see just well you "deal with it".
*wanders off muttering to self*
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:45:00 -
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It's not like real life. In real life there are laws, a police force and consequences resulting from your actions. If you "scam" someone then you end up facing the law or in hospital.
OK, so there are people who get away with it sometimes but generally it catches up with you.
You must live in the nation of Fantasyland, because corporate espionage, money scams, and other illegal activities run rampant across the globe, and in every country - and i mean EVERY country - people with enough ill-gotten money can buy and sell enough police, judges and politicians at will to keep themselves safe. Hell, people have even been scamming people on eBay buying and selling items form MMORPG's including EVE without being caught, or even recognised as comitting a crime.
Welcome to the real world Feral Fury.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:55:00 -
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I'll say this much, the game is definitely not as fun as it should be due to all the a$$holes who play to scam lie and decieve. I understand we need a "few" of those types, but there is way too many, getting away scott free, way too often.
I've never played an online game with so many a$$holes. Maybe I have, it's just that the game mechanics allow these types to get away with too much, and the GM's & DEV's just don't have the nads to take care of them in fear of losing subsribers...
It's quite pathetic at times, making me wonder why I even bother with this game anymore...
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babyblue
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:58:00 -
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Then we need real justice. We have a system that allows criminal activity but no penal code!
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Manfred Doomhammer
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:08:00 -
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*Sighs*
All this "It's just like real life so deal with it" bull is getting so tired.
It's not like real life. In real life there are laws, a police force and consequences resulting from your actions. If you "scam" someone then you end up facing the law or in hospital.
OK, so there are people who get away with it sometimes but generally it catches up with you.
All MMORPGs create a "risk free, low consequence" environment were the less socially developed can have a giggle. With EVE being an "adult" game (more mature in it's outlook) it hits harder when "teenage" morality comes to play.
You don't believe me? Try pulling some of the EVE scams in RL and see just well you "deal with it".
*wanders off muttering to self*
well.. just because ever MMORPG does it doesnt mean EVE has to do it..
one of the reasons many started out with eve is the reasons that "all goes" and that there are very few restrictions as to what is your style of play.
i guess blaming some particular way of gaming to be dependent on age is a quite mean statement.. i personally know some people who are quite older and yet stick to this way of playing... after all, they say its a game, and there they can play out a criminal, which wouldnt be well advised in the real world(tm).
i guess one of the biggest "problems" as far as it is a problem at alls are the people that fall for something and think CCP has to fix it for them...
people have to realize, they bought THIS game, and that THIS game is THE WAY CCP made it... and that you are playing THEIR game, and if you DO NOT LIKE it ... well you have to FIND A GAME that FITS your desires
this had to be said now, as it seems people think they can change it by constant whining... when all they succeed is getting other forum posters mad ...
I for myself think the biggest problem of eve is that CCP doesnt state the obvious that i have written in the above paragraph clearly on their forums as sticky...
and maybe another thing that needs to be done is opening a troll/whine forum and move ALL troll/whine posts there....
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Wren on 27/01/2004 12:14:45
There should be ways to track scams. Repeat offenders should be fined by the 'SECURE COMMERCE COMMISION', the SCC which is supposed to run the market system.
Security officers for companies should be able to run traces on accounts and items to track theft, WITHOUT DEV/GM help. They should be able to have security evidence (just basically snap shots of corp. hangers at specific times of the day. Each item should have a tracking number.)
Concord and empire navies should actually LOOK for something to do, instead of playing with their nether regions at gates. Why don't they randomly warp around, and attack anyone who is violating laws?
Bounty Hunters should have their own sets of agents that allow them to pinpoint exactly where someone is in a system. They just have to pay an ISK price to find out which region. const, system, and finally belts, gates, or stations. Allow bounties to carry over to alts that are used in crimes, as they are accomplices.
Finally, Carey, you did everything right on your avatar, great work.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:37:00 -
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CCP allowing people to name their characters unimaginative things such as 'Carey' to detract from any kind of immersion I had going... 
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:42:00 -
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The way this forums is run, the way ccp are non consistent in the way of handeling petitions. Its like a child that changes its mind. In Norway its called "face judging"
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Theodin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:47:00 -
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That every player who posts something negative about CCP then expects their problems to be sorted to their liking straight away and if it isn't then they go on about them being the paying customer!!!
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Stonyvision
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Posted - 2004.01.27 13:01:00 -
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hehehe
You got screwed. It's like in RL. Don't trust anyone. 
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.27 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 27/01/2004 13:11:00
13. The lack of pornographic contented sites compatible with the ingame browser and/or the ingame browsers incompatibilty with pornographic contented sites.
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