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Carey
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Posted - 2004.01.27 07:41:00 -
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1. You put in months of hard work only to lose it all in a few seconds to some heartless soul you trusted.
2. Too many people exploit game bugs and CCP does not ban them.
3. Lamers placing 1 trit for 10,000,000 isk on the market.
4. A major bp scam pot in escrow.
5. Everyone tries to out deceive the next person making the game one huge pool of liars.
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K'thang
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Posted - 2004.01.27 07:43:00 -
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 Hear hear, I could not agree more! Word!
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Skillshot
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Posted - 2004.01.27 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Skillshot on 27/01/2004 07:45:49
ctd's causing ship/item losses and the gm's say our logs dont show anything when your have sent them a copie of the crash.dmp
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Carey
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Carey on 27/01/2004 08:01:16
7. Servers crashing when people actually want to have a fun large scale fleet battle. Seems to me the only fun aspect and upside of the game are the large scale battles... but... server cant even support it... Hmmmm.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:24:00 -
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8. People who lose items/money through their own naivety and/or stupidity and then proceed to whinge about it on the forums as though its poor game design rather than something known as 'a fact of life' that adds to gameplay.
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Harakiri
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:32:00 -
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Carey:
Where is the other 995 ?
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:32:00 -
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9. So many whiners and snivelling complainers.
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Treelani
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:32:00 -
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10. People stupid enough to buy 1 trit for 10 mil, and stupid enough not to know how to use escrow!
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Gilbert
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:37:00 -
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My opinion on the topic here
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:41:00 -
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okey il come up with something soon(tm)
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Torath
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:47:00 -
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11. Player who think that by posting on the forum about a minor issue they don't like. Thinking CCP will refund all and send you back into game with a pat on the back for telling them.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Sara Kerrigan on 27/01/2004 10:11:09
I'm more disappointed by players than by the game. Unfortunately things like honesty, respect, manners can't be coded in.
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Shittake
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:07:00 -
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12. The obvious lack of basic testing when it come to CONTAINERS of all types. They fix jesttison container sharing, screw up secured container display when in cargo hold. This really shouldn't take that much to fix AND it would make alot of people happy.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Sara Kerrigan on 27/01/2004 10:11:09
I'm more disappointed by players than by the game. Unfortunately things like honesty, respect, manners can't be coded in.
It would get boring fast if everyone had the same values. You need the underhanded, lying, cheating so that a comparison can be made and the honest loyal and trustworthy can be noticed.
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It's all about the fortune and glory, fortune and glory!
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Relentless
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:37:00 -
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Eve's fundamental flaw is that the sh*t rises to the top. Eve is built for the scammer/griefer. From ore theft to escrow and market scams to corp theft to hiding behind alts, this game is heavily weighted to those without conscience.
It's easy to blame people's stupidity for making a mistake, but a single slip can mean months of work transferred to some useless brat. And because of a game environment thats intentionally designed for con artists to work without consequence, theres a constant minefield of moronic tactics out there, and sooner or later the chances are you will slip up. All it takes is pushing the wrong button once when you're tired or in a hurry.
The richest players in Eve are the ones who spend all their time trying to steal other peoples work, because the game makes it pay off.
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:48:00 -
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The richest players in Eve are the ones who spend all their time trying to steal other peoples work, because the game makes it pay off.
Seriously, you actually believe the opposite is true in real life? If you do, you need to take off the rose coloured glasses.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:52:00 -
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True LOL. Eve mirrors real life so much it is scary. 
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:57:00 -
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Whiners blaming CCP for the machiavellian thinking of players. Players scam and cheat on you, not CCP.
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Theodin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:08:00 -
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Quote:
Eve's fundamental flaw is that the sh*t rises to the top. Eve is built for the scammer/griefer. From ore theft to escrow and market scams to corp theft to hiding behind alts, this game is heavily weighted to those without conscience.
It's easy to blame people's stupidity for making a mistake, but a single slip can mean months of work transferred to some useless brat. And because of a game environment thats intentionally designed for con artists to work without consequence, theres a constant minefield of moronic tactics out there, and sooner or later the chances are you will slip up. All it takes is pushing the wrong button once when you're tired or in a hurry.
The richest players in Eve are the ones who spend all their time trying to steal other peoples work, because the game makes it pay off.
Be vigilant at all times and you will save yourself a lot of lost isk. Yes there are many scams out there but they are easy to overcome.
These issues are part of every day life, you have used car salesmen trying to sell you duff cars and investment scams to name just 2. We all have to learn and to understand when we are being sold a rotten egg. Its part of life and thus part of Eve.
Where are the hero's and the brave, we live in a galaxy of fools and cowards |
Feral Fury
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:26:00 -
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*Sighs*
All this "It's just like real life so deal with it" bull is getting so tired.
It's not like real life. In real life there are laws, a police force and consequences resulting from your actions. If you "scam" someone then you end up facing the law or in hospital.
OK, so there are people who get away with it sometimes but generally it catches up with you.
All MMORPGs create a "risk free, low consequence" environment were the less socially developed can have a giggle. With EVE being an "adult" game (more mature in it's outlook) it hits harder when "teenage" morality comes to play.
You don't believe me? Try pulling some of the EVE scams in RL and see just well you "deal with it".
*wanders off muttering to self*
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:45:00 -
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It's not like real life. In real life there are laws, a police force and consequences resulting from your actions. If you "scam" someone then you end up facing the law or in hospital.
OK, so there are people who get away with it sometimes but generally it catches up with you.
You must live in the nation of Fantasyland, because corporate espionage, money scams, and other illegal activities run rampant across the globe, and in every country - and i mean EVERY country - people with enough ill-gotten money can buy and sell enough police, judges and politicians at will to keep themselves safe. Hell, people have even been scamming people on eBay buying and selling items form MMORPG's including EVE without being caught, or even recognised as comitting a crime.
Welcome to the real world Feral Fury.
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:55:00 -
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I'll say this much, the game is definitely not as fun as it should be due to all the a$$holes who play to scam lie and decieve. I understand we need a "few" of those types, but there is way too many, getting away scott free, way too often.
I've never played an online game with so many a$$holes. Maybe I have, it's just that the game mechanics allow these types to get away with too much, and the GM's & DEV's just don't have the nads to take care of them in fear of losing subsribers...
It's quite pathetic at times, making me wonder why I even bother with this game anymore...
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babyblue
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:58:00 -
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Then we need real justice. We have a system that allows criminal activity but no penal code!
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Manfred Doomhammer
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:08:00 -
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*Sighs*
All this "It's just like real life so deal with it" bull is getting so tired.
It's not like real life. In real life there are laws, a police force and consequences resulting from your actions. If you "scam" someone then you end up facing the law or in hospital.
OK, so there are people who get away with it sometimes but generally it catches up with you.
All MMORPGs create a "risk free, low consequence" environment were the less socially developed can have a giggle. With EVE being an "adult" game (more mature in it's outlook) it hits harder when "teenage" morality comes to play.
You don't believe me? Try pulling some of the EVE scams in RL and see just well you "deal with it".
*wanders off muttering to self*
well.. just because ever MMORPG does it doesnt mean EVE has to do it..
one of the reasons many started out with eve is the reasons that "all goes" and that there are very few restrictions as to what is your style of play.
i guess blaming some particular way of gaming to be dependent on age is a quite mean statement.. i personally know some people who are quite older and yet stick to this way of playing... after all, they say its a game, and there they can play out a criminal, which wouldnt be well advised in the real world(tm).
i guess one of the biggest "problems" as far as it is a problem at alls are the people that fall for something and think CCP has to fix it for them...
people have to realize, they bought THIS game, and that THIS game is THE WAY CCP made it... and that you are playing THEIR game, and if you DO NOT LIKE it ... well you have to FIND A GAME that FITS your desires
this had to be said now, as it seems people think they can change it by constant whining... when all they succeed is getting other forum posters mad ...
I for myself think the biggest problem of eve is that CCP doesnt state the obvious that i have written in the above paragraph clearly on their forums as sticky...
and maybe another thing that needs to be done is opening a troll/whine forum and move ALL troll/whine posts there....
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Wren
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Wren on 27/01/2004 12:14:45
There should be ways to track scams. Repeat offenders should be fined by the 'SECURE COMMERCE COMMISION', the SCC which is supposed to run the market system.
Security officers for companies should be able to run traces on accounts and items to track theft, WITHOUT DEV/GM help. They should be able to have security evidence (just basically snap shots of corp. hangers at specific times of the day. Each item should have a tracking number.)
Concord and empire navies should actually LOOK for something to do, instead of playing with their nether regions at gates. Why don't they randomly warp around, and attack anyone who is violating laws?
Bounty Hunters should have their own sets of agents that allow them to pinpoint exactly where someone is in a system. They just have to pay an ISK price to find out which region. const, system, and finally belts, gates, or stations. Allow bounties to carry over to alts that are used in crimes, as they are accomplices.
Finally, Carey, you did everything right on your avatar, great work.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:37:00 -
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CCP allowing people to name their characters unimaginative things such as 'Carey' to detract from any kind of immersion I had going... 
Convert Stations
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:42:00 -
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The way this forums is run, the way ccp are non consistent in the way of handeling petitions. Its like a child that changes its mind. In Norway its called "face judging"
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Teddybears movies
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Theodin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 12:47:00 -
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That every player who posts something negative about CCP then expects their problems to be sorted to their liking straight away and if it isn't then they go on about them being the paying customer!!!
Where are the hero's and the brave, we live in a galaxy of fools and cowards |
Stonyvision
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Posted - 2004.01.27 13:01:00 -
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hehehe
You got screwed. It's like in RL. Don't trust anyone. 
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.27 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 27/01/2004 13:11:00
13. The lack of pornographic contented sites compatible with the ingame browser and/or the ingame browsers incompatibilty with pornographic contented sites.
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Vortigern
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Posted - 2004.01.27 13:16:00 -
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When will people realise that this is just a game!
I play a game for fun and am careful as to who I trust.....If I get scammed (Morbor benefited), then I tend to laugh it off and tell myself not to be so stupid next time.
This is not real life....the rules are different so play within the rules. If you don't like scammers then don't be so naive/trusting/careless......ALL scams are preventable.
And Viceroy I agree wholeheartedly....thank god for windowed mode!
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.27 13:27:00 -
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Yea lol, calm down. I've got scammed, very artfully I should add. Had a laugh, thats about it. Dont take this game so seriously
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2004.01.27 13:47:00 -
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This game is pretty much a failure on all fronts in my opinion.
The biggest mistakes?
1) The developer's chose to make mining such an absolutely integral part of the game for so many professions, yet failed completely and utterly to make it a) interesting or b) fun.
2) The developer's chose to make PvP one of the most important aspects of the game; one might argue it is the most important. Yet the tools and mechanisms involved in PvP, not to mention the amount of lag caused by the presence of more than 5 ships at any given point in space makes the actuality of PvP in EVE an astounding disappointment. It's lightyears behind the Emlen MUD, which is embarassing for a game that came out so recently.
3) The disastrous trifecta: i) huge universe, ii) professions (and missions) that require large amounts of travel, iii) total lack of interesting aspects to travel (essentially amount to buckets of wasted time).
Anyway, EVE might be posting some decent numbers for now, but it will crash again (and hard) when new games start hitting the market.
My advice to the EVE developers? When you're designing your next game in hopes of reconciling the failure that is EVE, perhaps you should ask yourself this little pair of questions:
1) What will the players be spending 90% of their time doing?
2) Is this at all interesting or enjoyable?
When you can figure out number one, and then answer "2" with a yes, then you've got something.
Veruna Caseti
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.27 13:53:00 -
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lag is only bad if you fight with like 40vs40 outside empire space. Its much better inside empire space with the better node distribution. You can have fleet battles of that magnitutde in Yulai or Amarr easily i would guess. The only problem with the lag is that the server doesnt dynamicly balance the loads it gets. OMG I R ROCKET SCIENTIST!!!11 
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Major Trucker
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Posted - 2004.01.27 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Major Trucker on 27/01/2004 14:11:52
6. People who think this thread was a blast at CCP
7. People who don't understand the idea of 1000 disappointments so they post stupid things instead of keeping it on topic
8. People like me who hijack the thread for absoluly no purpose(at least I keep the number system going)
9. Having two servers and expecting handshaking to work between 40 players when one guy with 56k f's up the whole battle.
10. People with 56k modems that enter fleet battles "YOU ARE THRE REASON FOR LAG" our pcs talk to one another so-to speak, so its like the fat space marine running to keep up and everyone else has to be held down by him/her.
11. CCP for allowing 56k when players with 3 accounts are quiting because of modules taking 3 minutes to activate.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2004.01.27 14:43:00 -
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If you think 56k modems are the cause of all your lag... well, think again.
Veruna Caseti
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.27 14:58:00 -
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lol major trucker, i think you should get your facts before you state that crap so boldly. 56k users have nothing to do with lag in fleet battles. Dont behave so arrogantly noobish 
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Theodin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:00:00 -
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Vernuna,
Were you not playing this game anymore, yet you still post slatting the game?
If you don't like it that much why do you even bother to come on the forums?
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:07:00 -
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Quote:
Edited by: Major Trucker on 27/01/2004 14:11:52
6. People who think this thread was a blast at CCP
7. People who don't understand the idea of 1000 disappointments so they post stupid things instead of keeping it on topic
8. People like me who hijack the thread for absoluly no purpose(at least I keep the number system going)
9. Having two servers and expecting handshaking to work between 40 players when one guy with 56k f's up the whole battle.
10. People with 56k modems that enter fleet battles "YOU ARE THRE REASON FOR LAG" our pcs talk to one another so-to speak, so its like the fat space marine running to keep up and everyone else has to be held down by him/her.
11. CCP for allowing 56k when players with 3 accounts are quiting because of modules taking 3 minutes to activate.
12. Ignorant retards who post ignorant replies and flames in this thread.
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Deciphus
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Posted - 2004.01.27 16:00:00 -
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no unique items, there should be some uber powered rare items
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2004.01.27 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 27/01/2004 16:14:09
Theodin said:
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Vernuna,
Were you not playing this game anymore, yet you still post slatting the game?
I'm not interested in discussions, especially not with twinks who can't muster the scr0tum to post with a character they actually use to play the game.
I voiced my opinion about the game. That's what these forums are for. I realize there's a few thousand people who somewhat disagree with me right now, but not for long.
The developers of EVE have given no indication that they are attempting to or even interested in changing any of the things that are really wrong with this game.
The sad truth is this game could be great, but in favor of actually thinking about how things could be changed and making some decisions that might *gasp* upset some people the developers are going to continue simply with a "more and bigger is better" pattern.
Player: PVP doesn't work to any reasonable degree.
DEVs: Lets have a tournament and award nifty ships!
Player: We spend so much time mining, but it's so tedious and boring. Can't something be done?
DEVs: How's this sound? We'll give you one more mineral to mine, except you will need to train for 25 days to do so. Also, the asteroids containing the mineral will be guarded by unending fleets of nearly invincible pirates. It will be even harder and more tedious than before, and you will have to travel further and waste more time.
Player: Umm, we were kind of wondering if you could fix the Market? It really doesn't work at all, and we can't sell loot or make a decent living moving trade goods.
DEVs: You can sell loot! Just use those convoluted escrow missions that were never intended for that purpose and lack all of the features of an actual "Market" except that we call it that. Oh, and trade goods will be reseeded occasionally. They're still absolutely worthless except to the people we're now forcing to do Agent Missions, but they'll reappear occasionally.
Player: We were kind of hoping you could add some content to 0.0.
DEVs: Stop right there, I know where you're going with this. More NPCs. Like, 10 times more. And they appear more often. Oh, and they hit harder and faster. And are harder to kill. I like where you're going with this, keep talking.
Player: Are you even listening to me?
DEVs: Erm. Technology Level II!
Player: Yes. We've all heard. Tech II. We can't wait to do 15,000 hours of Agent Missions for the chance to be in on a lottery for a blueprint that we may or may not be able to manufacture based on your convoulted list of skill requirements and components which conveniently can also be gained only through Agent Missions. Agent Missions are a cheap boring distraction. It so happens that they were actually implemented unlike so many other things that ought to have been, and so now instead of actually coming up with new content we get new rewards with old content.
DEVs: Lets have a tournament! The reward can be Agent Missions! Only shiny.
Sit back and think about what they have actually added to the game. Just more cookies to grab by doing the same old boring crap.
Veruna Caseti
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2004.01.27 16:59:00 -
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"Sit back and think about what they have actually added to the game. Just more cookies to grab by doing the same old boring crap"
Exactly right, but look how many asshats have fallen for the crap they pull.
CCP got thier server numbers up, so don't expect them to go above & beyond the call of duty to actually deliver the game they should have in the first place...
If people would keep track for one month, on how much time they spent playing EVE, and what was accomplished in that amount of time, you're looking at prolly 90% mining or traveling, depending on what your "living" is. Two of the most boring ******* things to do in this game.
The next crash in their server numbers is going to be much worse than the last time around, unless tech II actually starts paying off for those who came back to the game (players like me).
Right now I log on to the game to train skills & run my RA missions, once per day. I won't do this for much longer...
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Ayako
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Posted - 2004.01.27 17:10:00 -
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Sit back and think about what they have actually added to the game. Just more cookies to grab by doing the same old boring crap.
Wow Veruna, I must say that your post was right on target. Really, it seems sometimes that the Devs live in their own crazy world and treally don't give much thought about the (massive)changes they keep implementing.
I tip my hat to you :)
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alar1c
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Posted - 2004.01.27 17:16:00 -
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Quote:
and maybe another thing that needs to be done is opening a troll/whine forum and move ALL troll/whine posts there....
I couldn't agree more with you!!!
It is a real shame that some people were turned off this environment by a "few" bad apples.
And I say few because I've mostly met really great people .
Oh sure not everyone is the friendliest and I've run across some griefers and gankers, but those that I play with , my corp mates, are mostly good people.
Perhaps, some of the sour souls, should try to take adverity in stride. I have found that for a$$hole you meet, there are 9 people that are willing to go the extra mile.
Enough rambling....
Alar1c
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Mirimon
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Posted - 2004.01.27 17:24:00 -
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Quote:
This game is pretty much a failure on all fronts in my opinion.
The biggest mistakes?
1) The developer's chose to make mining such an absolutely integral part of the game for so many professions, yet failed completely and utterly to make it a) interesting or b) fun.
2) The developer's chose to make PvP one of the most important aspects of the game; one might argue it is the most important. Yet the tools and mechanisms involved in PvP, not to mention the amount of lag caused by the presence of more than 5 ships at any given point in space makes the actuality of PvP in EVE an astounding disappointment. It's lightyears behind the Emlen MUD, which is embarassing for a game that came out so recently.
3) The disastrous trifecta: i) huge universe, ii) professions (and missions) that require large amounts of travel, iii) total lack of interesting aspects to travel (essentially amount to buckets of wasted time).
Anyway, EVE might be posting some decent numbers for now, but it will crash again (and hard) when new games start hitting the market.
My advice to the EVE developers? When you're designing your next game in hopes of reconciling the failure that is EVE, perhaps you should ask yourself this little pair of questions:
1) What will the players be spending 90% of their time doing?
2) Is this at all interesting or enjoyable?
When you can figure out number one, and then answer "2" with a yes, then you've got something.
Why are you still playing, if you think the game sucks, then....
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Thyro
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Posted - 2004.01.27 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Thyro on 27/01/2004 18:42:50
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11. Player who think that by posting on the forum about a minor issue they don't like. Thinking CCP will refund all and send you back into game with a pat on the back for telling them.
Isn't this supposed to be like "REAL LIFE" as all of you mention?
Then where are the police, tribunal and prison? Sorry but CCP has to be blamed YES and should retake from the scammer and give back to the victim. Since this game is unable to provide any coverage for those situations
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Thyro
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Posted - 2004.01.27 18:49:00 -
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1. You put in months of hard work only to lose it all in a few seconds to some heartless soul you trusted.
2. Too many people exploit game bugs and CCP does not ban them.
3. Lamers placing 1 trit for 10,000,000 isk on the market.
4. A major bp scam pot in escrow.
5. Everyone tries to out deceive the next person making the game one huge pool of liars.
EVE is a great game without scam neither CCP backing up scammers... neither if wasn't necessary to spend months and months to get somewhere in this game....
But see the bright side... X2 is also great game and will be released on beginning of Feb 
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Hematic
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Posted - 2004.01.27 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 27/01/2004 13:11:00
13. The lack of pornographic contented sites compatible with the ingame browser and/or the ingame browsers incompatibilty with pornographic contented sites.
This very well may be the first time, but, I agree 100% with viceroy.
Well that and nerfing mods just to re-introduce them with a new name and call it tech level II is a bit lame.
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Intruders
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Posted - 2004.01.27 20:21:00 -
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If one year before I started playing EVE someone walked up to me and described the EVE GUI, the way the game lets you handle your ship in this world, the diff. viewing options (or the lack of them) I would said to him, "there is no way I would play a sh*t game like that". Fortunatelly, I tried EVE and was happy there was no one around to describe it for me, before I enter,(early beta). Its really the immersion and interaction with diff. groups of people and diff. situations and actions that unfold or implode that kept me around and keeps me going. Took a 4 month leave and now im ready to get in again. Still the game feels new. They had the success in producing a whole diff. parameter having nothing to do with the ussual parameters we have to deal with games in general. Any more stuff its just eye candy, just add things that could add to the imersion and development of interesting situations...and a whole lot more servers..
Every man lives..but not every man dies!
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.01.27 23:24:00 -
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My top x:
1. Slow release of tech 2 bp's
2. NPC's take over 1/2 months to be finally altered, IF their changed comming patch.
3. The upcomming missle change on chaos.
4. The lack of events / story development INGAME.
5. The inability to have bounty hunters/pirates, track down their victims.
6. Advanced skill development lacks specialisation in the Combat sector, Castor was only a refining / research specialisation.
7. Dissapointing fact about players themselves:
The continues trolling and flaming from certain players that are at war with each other, like someone can't be right in a balancing discussion because his name is corp X and thats the corp your at war with.
8. The childish behaviour of some ingame, teasing is ok but harrasment/insults/impersonating someone/hacking accounts/hacking private forums or DDOS a ping server isn't.. People don't see the diffrence in this and gets a little scary.
9. The lack of CCP to respond in 3 work days, in 9 of 10 cases my petitions/questions/requests were answered in a timeframe of 5-7 workdays.
10. The intollerance of CCP in some Bug situations, i lost twice an item due to bugs and could reproduce these yet refunding was not considerd according to ccp. CCP considers most of refunding requests as lies to benefit upon refunding, yet learning that not every customer is the same and therefor doesn't always lies would benefit CCP more.
11. The vanishing GM's from the Help channel, its also impossible to contact a GM in a urging mather.
12. The 25 dollar subscribtion fee, is way too high and still an large bump in the road for new subscribers to overcome. Keeping in mind that there is no free trail (PR campaigns excepted), 25 dollar is alot for a game that might suck, and still having to pay 25 dollar after playing 3 hours and giving up.
13. Less mature community, keeping in mind how the boards were in beta i must say that great topics are wasted by smacktalking, irritating behaviour and bloodwars between people/corporations. Good example is how recruiting threads are polluted by members of a enemy corporation. Respect is vanishing, and afterwards congratulations of GF are rare (chaos not included).
With this bad number i end my rant and go play some more EvE, goodnight ladies and gentlemen.
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Posted - 2004.01.27 23:36:00 -
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Wow. I never believed my forum post would get so much response in less than 24 hours. That just goes to show everyone this is a bigger issue than most realize.
And thank you to all that support me on behalf of the game being based on who can scam who the best.
In reply to some of your comments... yes, I am very unhappy, and yes I have quit and canceled my membership, but you all have to put up with my disgust for another 3 weeks. In regards to some comments about why buy the game in the first place... well, I've been playing since May 2003, which is a lot more than most of you clowns. I've seen the ups and downs, the expolits, the bugs, the fixes and in the end, it all boils down to heartless souls devising new ways to expolit, deceive, scam, and lie to get themselves to the top.
In regards to the comments about it being a game... yes JUST a game... laugh it off. Well, its not so funny putting in 2-3 months of work and time to have a pathetic jerk stab you in the back, lie to you, pretend to be your friend, and you end up losing everything in a few seconds. Hahaha... real funny, just laugh it off and put in another 2-3 months work. Get real people.
Bottom line... I wish you all the best... I really do... heheh.
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Murple
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Posted - 2004.01.28 02:13:00 -
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When did they change the subscription fee to $25?
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NTRabbit
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Posted - 2004.01.28 04:30:00 -
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Wow. I never believed my forum post would get so much response in less than 24 hours. That just goes to show everyone this is a bigger issue than most realize.
1/3 of the posts are directly refuting you, and i dont think a 3 page thread is representative of the roughly 20-30k subscribers this game has
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In reply to some of your comments... yes, I am very unhappy, and yes I have quit and canceled my membership, but you all have to put up with my disgust for another 3 weeks.
Thats nice... can i have whats left of your stuff?
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In regards to some comments about why buy the game in the first place... well, I've been playing since May 2003, which is a lot more than most of you clowns. I've seen the ups and downs, the expolits, the bugs, the fixes and in the end, it all boils down to heartless souls devising new ways to expolit, deceive, scam, and lie to get themselves to the top.
And ive been playing since October 2002, and have seen more bugs, fixes and exploits than you will ever know... unless you come on stratics and bug the real older players to start talking 'bout the good old days. The fact that some people will lie, deceive and scam to get their way is a given - its called human nature.
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In regards to the comments about it being a game... yes JUST a game... laugh it off. Well, its not so funny putting in 2-3 months of work and time to have a pathetic jerk stab you in the back, lie to you, pretend to be your friend, and you end up losing everything in a few seconds. Hahaha... real funny, just laugh it off and put in another 2-3 months work. Get real people.
Bad Luck. It happens. Get over it. If you dont want to start over again, this time more learned in the ways of the world, thats fine... but other people have had this happen to them and still kept on going.
Bottom line, you played, you got scammed, you decided to quit instead of rebuilding and found the forums to be a convenient place to whine about it. Good luck in the next game you decide to play... really.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.01.28 09:10:00 -
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In regards to the comments about it being a game... yes JUST a game... laugh it off. Well, its not so funny putting in 2-3 months of work and time to have a pathetic jerk stab you in the back, lie to you, pretend to be your friend, and you end up losing everything in a few seconds. Hahaha... real funny, just laugh it off and put in another 2-3 months work. Get real people.
I did exactly the same as you, put in a good number of hours work to get something, my first BS. Only to have it snatched from under my nose by a fellow corp mate. So I can totally empathise with how you feel about being scammed and stabbed in the back.
But after a day my feelings settled and I realised I had not actually lost anything. The time I spend in the game working for it I enjoyed so no lose there. The ship can be replaced so not the end of the world.
Its just a matter of understanding that there are player who will do anything to get what they need and not taking it all too personally.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.01.28 09:14:00 -
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More fool you for putting your BS in an unsecure hangar.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.01.28 09:25:00 -
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More fool you for putting your BS in an unsecure hangar.
I had no choice my corp was building it, one of the other directors took it on completion. So the hanger was secure to a supposed trusted few.
My point was not my foolish trust or my less trustworthy corp member, but the fact I have just dealt with it and moved on.
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Voss Matsu
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Posted - 2004.01.28 09:40:00 -
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it all boils down to heartless souls devising new ways to expolit, deceive, scam, and lie to get themselves to the top.
Human nature Carey, and if you don't like it, don't play MMOG's. This is for the simple reason that instead of being pitted against AI like in most PC games, there is another person on the other side of the character. A person who may well be trying to deceive and cheat you, so instead of being ignorant, keep your wits about you.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.01.28 10:55:00 -
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