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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:10:00 -
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"Due to the size of the heist, the GM team took a look into it to see if there were any violations of the EULA. No misconduct was found and any actions taken against the player by CCP were reversed.
kieron
Director of Community Relations, EVE Online"
C'mon CCP, If you guys are gonna invest firmly about a Corp theft Regarding BoB, I think it's fair to say that you should investgiate EVERY Corp theft.
I pay my good money to Play this fun game, and my money is just as good as BoB's or any other players Paying to play this game.
Don't claim that you guys are only investigating theirs due to the high amount of heist.
If you guys are gonna investigate their incident, Everyone should have the rights to have their investigated in detail to see if Eula were violated in their case.
It's unfair to tell others "Sorry to hear that the corp theft had occured on your corp, but we are not gonna bother investigating coz they probabbly got it the Legal way" while telling BoB "Hmm, sounds fishy, Maybe I'll investigate and see if I can get ur money back"
Thank you for reading 
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: fightnkill on 18/07/2007 17:15:10
For instance, WHy is it that CCP never bothered to investigate with the Corp Theft regarding Goonswarm? (60bill Involved)
60bill is STILL HUGE.
As well, some corp thief stole 1.2bill from my former Corp 
Even thou it may look small to CCP, It took huge amounts of work and dedication for us to gain that much. Yet, It was all gone within minutes by some damn corp thief
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:12:00 -
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Did anything ever actually happen with the goonswarm theft? I always assumed it was just another dramabomb attempt to get more attention?
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Did anything ever actually happen with the goonswarm theft? I always assumed it was just another dramabomb attempt to get more attention?
Maybe things should be checked out by asking some GS member if it really happened.
If it did happen, they should investigate. 
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:16:00 -
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Second in a truely epic thread.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:16:00 -
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It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
Wrangler
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Fudgefairy
Caldari
The Ghazi
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:18:00 -
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there was no 60bill.. i thought that had been established already...
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Stavros
Amarr
Itto-Ryu
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:18:00 -
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EPIC POTS
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: fightnkill on 18/07/2007 17:19:16
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
I'm pretty sure there has been many Corp thefts by hackers and I don't recall hearing any actions taken by CCP in terms of refunding the corp?
Well actually, there were some threads about corp theft by hackers but never any response by the op about the being re-imbursed for the stolen things?
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: fightnkill
Edited by: fightnkill on 18/07/2007 17:19:16
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
I'm pretty sure there has been many Corp thefts by hackers and I don't recall hearing any actions taken by CCP in terms of refunding the corp?
Well actually, there were some threads about corp theft by hackers but never any response by the op about the being re-imbursed for the stolen things?
In general I'd say that the hacked person would get their stuff back, but I can't really comment on any specific event.
Wrangler
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Yuki Li
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:28:00 -
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Wow, you're really looking to give your torch and pitchfork some use eh?
Stop witch hunting, you're making yourself look dim. There's no preferencial treatment, the tinfoil hats need to come off.
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Kai page
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
So an evol guy petitioned him because he thought his account was hacked?
Don't u think its easy to abuse this if u take the guilty untill proven innocent approach? e.g. petition hostile fcs before fleet ops etc...
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Commander Nikolas
Gallente
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:31:00 -
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The very first corp I joined in eve was thieved using hacking. When the CEO logged on all the corp wallet was gone, all the players roles totally messed up, and the CEOs char had been removed from the corp.
He filed a petition about the hacking and CCP had the issue investigated, money refunded to the corp, and all the roles/hanger changes fixed by the next day.
I can't even remember the corps name without looking at my employment history... it was just some like 50 man nobody empire corp... CCP seemed to take it very seriously regardless of "who we were".
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: fightnkill
Edited by: fightnkill on 18/07/2007 17:19:16
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
I'm pretty sure there has been many Corp thefts by hackers and I don't recall hearing any actions taken by CCP in terms of refunding the corp?
Well actually, there were some threads about corp theft by hackers but never any response by the op about the being re-imbursed for the stolen things?
In general I'd say that the hacked person would get their stuff back, but I can't really comment on any specific event.
So suppose that BoB guy got hacked because he was browsing thru and buying ISKs illegally for cheap $.
How will you know if he got the isk thru that method or some other innocent way?
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Phelan Driscoll
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:33:00 -
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Edited by: Phelan Driscoll on 18/07/2007 17:32:35
Originally by: fightnkill
C'mon CCP, If you guys are gonna invest firmly about a Corp theft Regarding BoB, I think it's fair to say that you should investgiate EVERY Corp theft.
IIRC, CCP looks into any large transaction. So they pretty much do this already.
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li
Wow, you're really looking to give your torch and pitchfork some use eh?
Stop witch hunting, you're making yourself look dim. There's no preferencial treatment, the tinfoil hats need to come off.
I mean Do remember that this is the first time(That I know of) CCP publicly announced that it will investigate into the corp theft.
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Morris Falter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:38:00 -
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Less foil please - I can think of examples where accounts were suspended for investigation after transfering bn isk sums between chars. And that was a while ago...
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Dave Borland
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:40:00 -
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James in our Corp got hacked. He is a CEO and a whole bunch of stuff was taken from the corp hangers. We petitioned it (he didn't even know about it). The account was temp banned, while investigated.
Turns out he was hacked, we got our stuff back and a day or two later, the account was unbanned.
If you petition about hacking they investigate it, if you scream "oh noes we were robbed", they'll shrugg thier shoulders.
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Morris Falter
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dave Borland
James in our Corp got hacked. He is a CEO and a whole bunch of stuff was taken from the corp hangers. We petitioned it (he didn't even know about it). The account was temp banned, while investigated.
Turns out he was hacked, we got our stuff back and a day or two later, the account was unbanned.
If you petition about hacking they investigate it, if you scream "oh noes we were robbed", they'll shrugg thier shoulders.
Dave, nice post - but turn on your tickers, or you'll get R E V O K E D.
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Lenutza
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:42:00 -
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This thread sucks. They've investigated corp thefts many, many times. Put the pitchforks away.
I ate a temp ban for one a year ago, so quit thinking BOB is getting special treatment for this. They're not.
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:44:00 -
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Ok Lock then
But do u think they'll look into corp theft that happend 7 months ago?
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Nikolas
He filed a petition about the hacking and CCP had the issue investigated, money refunded to the corp, and all the roles/hanger changes fixed by the next day.
Same here when one of our directors got hacked and the hacker emptied the corp wallet and his personal isk/stuff. The account was banned right away and got unbanned when the stuff was refunded/returned.
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Sapphrine
The Littlest Hobos
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: fightnkill
Originally by: Yuki Li
Wow, you're really looking to give your torch and pitchfork some use eh?
Stop witch hunting, you're making yourself look dim. There's no preferencial treatment, the tinfoil hats need to come off.
I mean Do remember that this is the first time(That I know of) CCP publicly announced that it will investigate into the corp theft.
no it isn't you utter idiot. CCP investigated if something was amiss, most likely because it was brought to their attention that an account had possibly been hacked. Investigation showed swiftly that there was no foul play and they put the account back to being active.
Stop trying to witch hunt CCP for doing their job. Stop attempting to slur that anyone recieved special treatment. Start trying to read.
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maarud
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dave Borland
James in our Corp got hacked. He is a CEO and a whole bunch of stuff was taken from the corp hangers. We petitioned it (he didn't even know about it). The account was temp banned, while investigated.
Turns out he was hacked, we got our stuff back and a day or two later, the account was unbanned.
If you petition about hacking they investigate it, if you scream "oh noes we were robbed", they'll shrugg thier shoulders.
This was me, bloody alt was logged in :(
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Mastin Dragonfly
Absolutely No Return
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
So if for instance you are on the verge of a large battle, you could just file hack suspicions vs the fleetcommanders of your opponent to get them out of the way temporarily? I assume there must be some evidence presented before you shut down someone's account?
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fightnkill
Dark Blade Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:59:00 -
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I can Fully understand that re-imbursing for corp that was hacked was the Right thing to do; however, if they get re-imbursed due to trust scam, everyone else should get the same thing.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.18 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
So if for instance you are on the verge of a large battle, you could just file hack suspicions vs the fleetcommanders of your opponent to get them out of the way temporarily? I assume there must be some evidence presented before you shut down someone's account?
Access logs. Of course, once the GMs find out nothing at all happened they'll return the favor and ban whoever petitioned it.
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Barkode
Fourth Dimension
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Posted - 2007.07.18 18:02:00 -
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Fool.
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.07.18 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kai page
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
So an evol guy petitioned him because he thought his account was hacked?
Don't u think its easy to abuse this if u take the guilty untill proven innocent approach? e.g. petition hostile fcs before fleet ops etc...
Oh, I'm sure whoever tried that would think he was really smart, right up until we banned his account instead for it... 
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Hurad Takor
Minmatar
Stellar Convertors
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Posted - 2007.07.18 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Kai page
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
It wasn't so much an investigation of the corp theft as an investigation into if the character had been hacked. If a petition comes in about a account possibly being hacked the same type of investiagtion will occur.
So an evol guy petitioned him because he thought his account was hacked?
Don't u think its easy to abuse this if u take the guilty untill proven innocent approach? e.g. petition hostile fcs before fleet ops etc...
Oh, I'm sure whoever tried that would think he was really smart, right up until we banned his account instead for it...
So you will bann the Evolution guy that wrote the petition that the guy were hacked? Will you pay this guy wo were banned cause anyone told it to you his money back for the time he couldnt play?
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