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Inevitability Lightspeed Enterprises Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:11:00 - [1] Niarja 0.5 Domain....Freighter down in under 30 seconds. When are you gonna fix this CCP?! *Please Contact In-Game For Winning Bids*
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:12:00 - [2] they aren't adapt or die Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon
Nickhastapee Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Inevitability Niarja 0.5 Domain....Freighter down in under 30 seconds. When are you gonna fix this CCP?! Fix what?
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:13:00 - [4] Stop the presses! CONCORD didn't save someone's ship! ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:15:00 - [5] gankwhines mean instant forum gank Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink. Nerfageddon
Caiman Graystock The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:16:00 - [6] What's the myth people perpetuate that 0.5 and above means you are invulnerable and the police will prevent any and every crime instantly as it happens- just like they do in the real world, eh?
Judas Lonestar Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:17:00 - [7] So what'd ya lose? That system is camped a fair bit in my limited experience.
Inevitability Lightspeed Enterprises Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:23:00 - [8] I didn't lose anything...wasn't me. I just saw it happen and think its crap. It would be different if a freighter could fit a tank, like a capital armor rep. Drones should be jammed by CONCORD and the fuzz should have a faster response time. *Please Contact In-Game For Winning Bids*
lofty29 Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:25:00 - [9] Freighters are meant to be escorted --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt
Nickhastapee Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:28:00 - [10] Originally by: Inevitability I didn't lose anything...wasn't me. I just saw it happen and think its crap. It would be different if a freighter could fit a tank, like a capital armor rep. Drones should be jammed by CONCORD and the fuzz should have a faster response time. I believe they are, they changed that, everything is jammed/neuted.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:28:00 - [11] Originally by: lofty29 Freighters are meant to be escorted QFT ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:30:00 - [12] CONCORD already hit for wtfbbq damage, nos, jam, kill drones, certainly better than any real life police agency you will find. Their response times are already unrealistic, we don't need any more buffs. If you are transporting something worth getting 20 people together to gank you, it might be a wise idea to have a scout + escort. we ran outta cowbell.
Ssoraszh Tzarszh Minmatar Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:45:00 - [13] I hope never, bad enough these freighter jockey's singlehandedly destroyed all trading routes so badly CCP had to change the basics on how npc market works. The more they pop, the better. If you dont like it, go out of the freighter to jita buissness and start building them.
Sean Dillon Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:51:00 - [14] Edited by: Sean Dillon on 22/07/2007 20:51:44 I hope there is a killmail of this posted somewhere.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.07.22 20:52:00 - [15] Solution: Next freight you fly, fill it half with valuables and the other half with shuttles. No one will DARE suicide you. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery.
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:01:00 - [16] answer = remove freighters from game. simple. i mean we havent always had them so whats the problem?
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Inevitability Niarja 0.5 Domain....Freighter down in under 30 seconds. When are you gonna fix this CCP?! Wasn't the Charon you bought from Veto Logistics by any chance was it? >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
Nickhastapee Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:03:00 - [18] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Inevitability Niarja 0.5 Domain....Freighter down in under 30 seconds. When are you gonna fix this CCP?! Wasn't the Charon you bought from Veto Logistics by any chance was it? LOL Anyway, does anybody have a link to the kill?
R3dSh1ft Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:07:00 - [19] Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: lofty29 Freighters are meant to be escorted QFT damage is greater than tank in all cases, and without the ability to actively engage the enemy (as its high sec) freighters are defenseless against suicide ganks - the only way to avoid it is fly with less value in your freighter! DKOD - an awesome synchronised killing machine
Ozzie Asrail Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:09:00 - [20] I dunno. Feighters shouldn't need escorting all the time, things like capship and even jsut bs production pretty much requires a frieghter. If People want to de-lag core empire then frieghters are pretty much a core ship for helping with that. On the other hand i think the fix CCP did was pretty much spot on regarding the drone jamming and the fact that concord are slow to react is whats supposed to happen in a 0.5. Just out of interest how many ships were attacking it? -----
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:14:00 - [21] There is a counter. Full Slave set, with a command ship alt with those gang armor bonus thingies along with maxed skills to get the most benefit from them.
Santa Anna Caldari Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:19:00 - [22] Originally by: R3dSh1ft Originally by: techzer0 Originally by: lofty29 Freighters are meant to be escorted QFT damage is greater than tank in all cases, and without the ability to actively engage the enemy (as its high sec) freighters are defenseless against suicide ganks - the only way to avoid it is fly with less value in your freighter! Don't undock with it if you can't afford to lose it. That includes your cargo. _____ CPU Love
Gner Dechast Gallente Flashman Services	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:20:00 - [23] Originally by: Inevitability Niarja 0.5 Domain....Freighter down in under 30 seconds. When are you gonna fix this CCP?! I label you as "Group B" toon. Shame on you!
Indigo Johnson Minmatar	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:22:00 - [24] Originally by: voogru There is a counter. Full Slave set, with a command ship alt with those gang armor bonus thingies along with maxed skills to get the most benefit from them. That or a 3x SBII rapier/huggy bear corpmate.
Raevenor GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:23:00 - [25] Oh man someone lost a freighter in empire? Talk about owned.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:24:00 - [26] Originally by: Ozzie Asrail I dunno. Feighters shouldn't need escorting all the time They only need to be escorted when full of delicious stuff. - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Nickhastapee Originally by: Inevitability I didn't lose anything...wasn't me. I just saw it happen and think its crap. It would be different if a freighter could fit a tank, like a capital armor rep. Drones should be jammed by CONCORD and the fuzz should have a faster response time. I believe they are, they changed that, everything is jammed/neuted. Interesting name. That like your "I'm AFK" character? Anyway, the real problem is people's perceptions of things. Everyone seems to think that there's a high contrast switch between .4 and .5 systems. High danger in one and nearing complete safety in the other by just increasing the system security +.1. It's the slowness of CONCORD responses that make .5 and .6 systems kind of the ghettos of highsec. So if there's a "problem to be fixed", it's the misconceptions of alot of players imo. I think quite a large percentage of the playerbase expect .5 through 1.0 security space to be more or less the same as far as their safety goes. Incidents like this make it obvious that it isn't. So perhaps CCP needs to look to the tutorials or something to raise awareness. That said, there are quite a few .5 systems that can be pretty hard to avoid. Niarja is one of them. Uedama and Hek are likely spots as well. I guess the shrewd freighter pilot would take extra precautions for those sorts of systems. I mean, if I were to look for a spot to set up suicide ganking shop, I would look at Jumps in the Last Hour versus Security Status and go to those places with the lowest security and the highest amount of jumps. Not alot of brainwork there. So it follows, the freighter pilot should look at those sort of spots on the map with a bit more caution. At least it seems like a logical conclusion to me... ------------------- WE'RE SORRY, SOMETHING HAPPENED
Riddick Valer	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:59:00 - [28] Suicide ganks demend on an alpha-strike big enough to overwhelm the tank. Escorts won't do much, as if they engage, 1 less suicider won't do anything, and concord will kill the escort. Defensive formations would fix a lot of this. Where an escort ship could hit "Escort Target" and actually put their ship in between it any enemy ships, taking some of the damage.
Inevitability Lightspeed Enterprises Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.07.22 22:10:00 - [29] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Inevitability Niarja 0.5 Domain....Freighter down in under 30 seconds. When are you gonna fix this CCP?! Wasn't the Charon you bought from Veto Logistics by any chance was it? As I said above....it wasn't me. *Please Contact In-Game For Winning Bids*
Eric Lupanasia	Posted - 2007.07.22 22:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Inevitability Niarja 0.5 Domain....Freighter down in under 30 seconds. When are you gonna fix this CCP?! 30 whole seconds? What were they using, civilian railguns? Anyway. Allow me to repeat the mantra: "Highsec space is safter, NOT safe." And 0.5 space is pretty much "911's a joke in your town" territory. This is not broken- this is how the game is meant to work. Generally, if you're not docked in a station, you should be planning, flying and thinking as if half the pirates in EVE space are one jump behind you- and the other half are waiting at the gate to gank you. This method leads to greater happiness, reduced sadness, and world harmony. Well, except for the pirates. But who cares about them being happy? ------------------- "There can be good done while profiting."

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