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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.25 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Golden Helmet Someones been killed by a Vaga recently
Actually, I've literally never been killed by a Vaga before in my entire playing history in Eve, on any of my characters, which is kinda weird thinking about it just now, but w/e.
I was just giving Shamis a hard time. Wasn't being serious lol. I think he appreciated my joke.
Originally by: Goumindong it is at the point where it is impossible to determine whether or not you are trolling or if you area really out of your freaking mind.
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Pandi
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.25 02:49:00 -
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loggoffski its the new eve http://sigs.griefwatch.net/?howto=1&kb=collect&template=stargaze&name=pandi |
Phelan Lore
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.25 05:00:00 -
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Same thing just happened to me tonight. MC raven jumped in on a gate I was on, proceded to type a warning in local then log off.
Quote: [04:53:14] MynLiu NicAtoch > Hostile vagabond in local
He then logged back on and off again to cloak in a safe.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.25 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Phelan Lore Same thing just happened to me tonight. MC raven jumped in on a gate I was on, proceded to type a warning in local then log off.
Quote: [04:53:14] MynLiu NicAtoch > Hostile vagabond in local
He then logged back on and off again to cloak in a safe.
TROLL
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Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Minmatar Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks
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Posted - 2007.07.25 05:49:00 -
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Haha, whatever, its not like anyone uses underhanded tactics and broken gamestats or mechanics for their advantage these day's.
If MC is kicking your arse and theres nothing you can do who do you call?
THE WTFFORUMDRAMABOMBTROLL Team, tatata.
And dont give bull**** like: "Ive never logged out, you may, you may not, but docking counts the same, jumping gate is the same. They all let you safe your ship with a certaion degree of risk. eg people on the other side, probing if you dont log back in. And always there are threads on the forums about how lame running away is.
Hell, it's all about the killmail, not about the fight, you were not looking for a fair fight noone is. Eve can't have fair fights remember?
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pyrofox
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2007.07.25 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 24/07/2007 04:20:11
Quote: 2007.07.24 03:59:03 Combat Your 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II lightly hits Tancred [FRICK](Megathron), doing 52.2 damage.
This evening I watched a FRICK megathron undock from lxw and head to RO9O. So I chased in my vaga. I caught up with him in MA-V. I know FRICK are well respected in the eve community, so I figured this guy might actually be looking for a fight. I made sure to stay out of web range in case he had blasters.
I was so focused on getting him scrambled and staying out of web range, that I never noticed him log out. I was happily digging into his armor when he went poof...
I normally wouldn't bother reporting such a thing. I typically have somewhere between 10-40 people log out on me every month. But FRICK!!! I thought more of you. I hope something is done.
And I'm certain the logout was deliberate. The guy saw me on the gate behind him. He jumped and logged. Then he logged back in about 3 minutes later to see if he was still alive, which he was. He sabotaged his warp and logged out again.
Shamis
When 49% of you guys stop hitting each other with handbags. The other 50% stop trying to make smart arse comments.
Then some one actually takes time to address the pandemic act of logging cos your a major ass wipe and don't want to lose your ship thru your own stupidity or laziness.
This is abuse of game mechanics and should be petitionable and therefore punishable.
The "oh dear my game crashed as soon as i jumped thru the gate I relogged and crashed again in mid warp and oh dear now i appear to be at a safe spot oh dear me" ploy is utter taking the ****.
Normally I would have qualms with "spilling the beans" but every numpty appears to be doing this on a regular basis as it seems this is hot press on the carebear jungle drums network service.
Thankfully the last 2 numpties who tried this neglected to account for the fact we were patient enough to await there eventual relogging and coupled with their stupidity, they ungraciously lost their ships and pod, but pods you say? yes cos they logged again!!!! mr covert was ready that time tho
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MynLiu NicAtoch
Eternity INC.
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Posted - 2007.07.25 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: MynLiu NicAtoch on 25/07/2007 14:40:11
Originally by: Phelan Lore Same thing just happened to me tonight. MC raven jumped in on a gate I was on, proceded to type a warning in local then log off.
Quote: [04:53:14] MynLiu NicAtoch > Hostile vagabond in local
He then logged back on and off again to cloak in a safe.
Actually, old boy, I was in a Dominix with six mining lasers sitting at the POS I'd warpped to when you entered local. I apologize if you felt your vagabond would have sat still long enough for the T1 drones on board it to engage them. For the record, my other two accounts in the system were in a Hulk, and a Mastadon. Neither of them would have been able to put up much of a fight either.
The fifth contact in local, the Raven you saw, was from a farmer corp who rat in the area and which entered after you, and would have been set up for ratting against guristas .. ie torps and a kinetic/thermal tank. It wouldn't have had any webs fitted to keep you anywhere near to engage, and would have had no chance against you either. Whether the chap in it logged off and on again I can't tell. I do know that the fantasy that S*****rdly are out looking for 'fair pvp' is merely that - a fantasy.
Carry on trolling.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.25 15:50:00 -
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Wow, I didn't realize MC had such disgruntled carebears.
Sorry for phelan's error. I'm sure he just got confused when people started disappearing from local.
And nobody ever said we were looking for fair fights, just a fair game.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:50:00 -
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FRICK responses are very dissapointing to say the least.
I wonder why so many people hold them this high tbfh.
Originally by: fire 59 i don't know of any bobs that have cheated
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DeckardIRL
The Randoms
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz This isn't xelas, this isn't some random carebear corp, this is one of the more respected merc organizations in eve.
Heheheee, methinks Shamis misses us?
Deck
Whiskey For COAD at its best |
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Gwoden
Gallente Exa Utopia Exa Nation
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Posted - 2007.07.25 20:17:00 -
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what has always *****ed me up about these topic in ANY MMORPG. Is that people whine about wanting fair PVP fights. Those same people whine about how someone saw them and then suddenly logged out. The only reason why someone would immediately log out after seeing a hostile, is to save their arse because they don't stand a chance.
So it's like the whiners want "fair PVP" as long as it means they can whomp on any defenceless target.
I say, if someone decided to log, it wouldn't have been a good fight. Clearly you got the jump on him, or he was not fitted to fight.
That's just one pointless easy PVP fight i don't have to endure. _______________________________________________
There is no "I can't" only "I will". |
Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.25 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gwoden what has always *****ed me up about these topic in ANY MMORPG. Is that people whine about wanting fair PVP fights. Those same people whine about how someone saw them and then suddenly logged out. The only reason why someone would immediately log out after seeing a hostile, is to save their arse because they don't stand a chance.
So it's like the whiners want "fair PVP" as long as it means they can whomp on any defenceless target.
I say, if someone decided to log, it wouldn't have been a good fight. Clearly you got the jump on him, or he was not fitted to fight.
That's just one pointless easy PVP fight i don't have to endure.
Piracy was supposed to be a profession in eve. Piracy implies non-consentual PvP for profit. Not fair fights.
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Bodhisattvas
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.26 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gwoden what has always *****ed me up about these topic in ANY MMORPG. Is that people whine about wanting fair PVP fights. Those same people whine about how someone saw them and then suddenly logged out. The only reason why someone would immediately log out after seeing a hostile, is to save their arse because they don't stand a chance.
So it's like the whiners want "fair PVP" as long as it means they can whomp on any defenceless target.
I say, if someone decided to log, it wouldn't have been a good fight. Clearly you got the jump on him, or he was not fitted to fight.
That's just one pointless easy PVP fight i don't have to endure.
Its only a game, but a game for me at least where actions HAD direct consequences!! Blah blah pointless pvp fight blah blah
Some people make iskies from destroying others toons ships and not just some deluded noble idea that ship kills should be earned from a equal ship kill basis.
Logging off is like paying $60 for a console game then diving straight onto some search engine to look for cheats. You don't like the consequences of your own stupidity or laziness so you log.
Perhaps being a carebear should be redefined as some one who does not like REAL risk, within the confines of the game that is.
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Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Minmatar Grumpy Old Farts Gruntfuttocks
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Posted - 2007.07.26 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Gwoden what has always *****ed me up about these topic in ANY MMORPG. Is that people whine about wanting fair PVP fights. Those same people whine about how someone saw them and then suddenly logged out. The only reason why someone would immediately log out after seeing a hostile, is to save their arse because they don't stand a chance.
So it's like the whiners want "fair PVP" as long as it means they can whomp on any defenceless target.
I say, if someone decided to log, it wouldn't have been a good fight. Clearly you got the jump on him, or he was not fitted to fight.
That's just one pointless easy PVP fight i don't have to endure.
Piracy was supposed to be a profession in eve. Piracy implies non-consentual PvP for profit. Not fair fights.
So why come here expecting to find what exactly? A general concensus that when people can't fight due to lack of pvp fit in the future they will surely remain 20 from the gate? sit in a belt or duly undock without changing their setup?
That never anyone in any pvpcorp will ever "dare" to try and get away from yet another one hundred and fiftieth vaga or curse roaming through their local? The targets you want wont ever have a fair fight anyway, so why on earth would you be served with a kill every single time?
Logging out in combat remains a "don't" but i can kinda see people getting frustrated at every time they risk moving a ship or rat/mne that some random dude in a speedtank comes along and pops their ship with 100% guarantee.
In the end CCP does not deem it exploiting, so all you can do is shout your misguided "e-honor" like so many people say.
Eve ain't fair, deal with it. Your plethora of carebear kills had to.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.26 06:46:00 -
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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 26/07/2007 06:46:49
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz I normally wouldn't bother reporting such a thing. I typically have somewhere between 10-40 people log out on me every month. But FRICK!!! I thought more of you. I hope something is done.
And I'm certain the logout was deliberate. The guy saw me on the gate behind him. He jumped and logged. Then he logged back in about 3 minutes later to see if he was still alive, which he was. He sabotaged his warp and logged out again.
Shamis
You know, I distinctly recall you logging a raven on me (maller) and someone else (geddon maybe?) in Impass, saying "[sic] why would I stay to fight when I know I can't win?" Hell I probably still ahve the logs. Don't see me starting threads about it, every entity in eve, no matter how respected they may be, has members that forego honor and etiquette in a moment of panic and log.
I probably will regret posting this, as I intended to just move along, but what the hell. Just seems an inane thread to me, slightly hypocritical. I'm not condoning what the pilot did, nor am I condemning you, just a passing observation.
Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go |
Kaasil
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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:57:00 -
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This thread fails.
seriously though, I don't see why you care if one guy from that corp logged out on you.
Nobody gives any respect for people that get popped or die.
Nobody.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kaasil
Nobody gives any respect for people that get popped or die.
Nobody.
I'm afraid you're very wrong.
DE
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Karlemgne
The Malevolent
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Posted - 2007.07.26 14:06:00 -
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Quote: Logging off is like paying $60 for a console game then diving straight onto some search engine to look for cheats.
WHAT!? I thought everyone did this?
-Karl
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Belial02
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.26 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: murder one Flying a Vaga is the equivilant of logging off. That is all.
Awww would a hug help?
Originally by: Omeega diplomacy is f1, f2, f3, really...
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Aaron Mirrorsaver
The Coalition Of Buccaneers Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.07.26 14:28:00 -
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Quote: Obviously the nerf was not good enough, you still see both these ships running rampant everywhere you enter 0.0. Does not matter which side of the universe your on theres bound to be roaming vaga/curses there.
oh noes people fly vagas and curses in numbers.... nerf them some more!!!
That's like saying, people use battleships too much for fleet fights and for sniping. People use haulers for hauling too much! I want people to stay still so I can shoot them easily, keep them warp scrambled, and dont move so my guns dont miss plezzz ccp , plez!!
I never thought the more elite players would whine because they came across something that proved a challenge to kill or that required some other tactic and lock, f1,f2,f3...
there is conventional warefare and there is other warefare.
These ships are small puny weak and easy to kill in a couple shots, some rely on speed, some rely on bonus' to electronic warfare. -- Greater Love hath no man than this; that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Mercenary Services Recruiting |
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.26 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2 You know, I distinctly recall you logging a raven on me (maller) and someone else (geddon maybe?) in Impass, saying "[sic] why would I stay to fight when I know I can't win?" Hell I probably still ahve the logs. Don't see me starting threads about it, every entity in eve, no matter how respected they may be, has members that forego honor and etiquette in a moment of panic and log.
I probably will regret posting this, as I intended to just move along, but what the hell. Just seems an inane thread to me, slightly hypocritical. I'm not condoning what the pilot did, nor am I condemning you, just a passing observation.
Indeed, there is no point in staying to fight a fight you can't win. However, I'm fairly certain that I would have said that from a safespot, and then logged.
So are you trying to tell me you don't see the difference between logging out in a safespot, and logging out right after you jump so the guy chasing you can't kill you before you disappear?
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Jessica Lorelei
Minmatar Vitae Mecha
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Posted - 2007.07.26 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kaasil This thread fails.
seriously though, I don't see why you care if one guy from that corp logged out on you.
Nobody gives any respect for people that get popped or die.
Nobody.
WRONG!
better to die trying than log.
anyone that dies to me, gets instant respect. -NEVER CONFUSE OPINION WITH FACT-
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max bygraves
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Posted - 2007.07.26 17:55:00 -
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Quote: And I'm certain the logout was deliberate.
why ? elaborate more pls.
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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.26 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Indeed, there is no point in staying to fight a fight you can't win. However, I'm fairly certain that I would have said that from a safespot, and then logged.
So are you trying to tell me you don't see the difference between logging out in a safespot, and logging out right after you jump so the guy chasing you can't kill you before you disappear?
QFT, cept sometimes its worth going down in a blaze of glory ;)
The general attitude in this thread is pretty disappointing... ----------------------------------------------
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Gwoden
Gallente Exa Utopia Exa Nation
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Posted - 2007.07.26 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: Gwoden on 26/07/2007 18:30:24
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Piracy was supposed to be a profession in eve. Piracy implies non-consentual PvP for profit. Not fair fights.
Excatly! Then why are the same people complaining about wanting fair fights? IT's like they say, "Hey that's crappy they logged out right way, oh and btw i want fair pvp fights."
The point i'm making is that it's countertuitive for someone to complain about people logging and then turn around and say "i'm all for fiar pvp btw."
It's like they are backpeddling on their earlier complain about people logging out to save their skin.
Just pointing that out. To avoid derailing this topic, i for one am in agreement that it's cowardly to log out if someone gets the jump on you. It's your darn fault for letting the pirate get the jump on you, or not being fitted properly to defend yourself.
Piracy is a big part of the game, fair fights will NEVER happen in MMORPGS, or in real life. People just need to stick it out and get blown up. Then learn from their mistakes and move on.
I like piracy, granted i'm still undecided if im going to be a pirate, but it is what makes this game soo much fun. _______________________________________________
There is no "I can't" only "I will". |
Gladiator Jonny
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:00:00 -
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Holy **** dudes.
Yes. logofski isnt kewl, however if you couldnt kill him its your fault. i understand theirs probabily complications but, whatever.
Creating a post about him logging off "apparently less than half an hour after it happened" is just pathetic. I have respect for both sides, and dont loose any for them. However i find this thread pathetic.
just my opinion
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Barbarellas Daughter
Lonely Barbarella
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Posted - 2007.07.26 23:30:00 -
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next time fly a ship with more dps and you will get him before he disappears ____________________________________________
Originally by: Marduk Felzhen You have an amazing cleavage, except you have no arms :(
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Ethan Tomlinson
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.27 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter next time fly a ship with more dps and you will get him before he disappears
pretty much best reply ever :)
I dont like vaga's even tho 70% of collective flies 1. but they are part of the game and to each his own. I would rather a diemos, ishtar, cerb or megathron any day over vaga's or curse
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.27 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 27/07/2007 00:29:03
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: doctorstupid2 You know, I distinctly recall you logging a raven on me (maller) and someone else (geddon maybe?) in Impass, saying "[sic] why would I stay to fight when I know I can't win?" Hell I probably still ahve the logs. Don't see me starting threads about it, every entity in eve, no matter how respected they may be, has members that forego honor and etiquette in a moment of panic and log.
I probably will regret posting this, as I intended to just move along, but what the hell. Just seems an inane thread to me, slightly hypocritical. I'm not condoning what the pilot did, nor am I condemning you, just a passing observation.
Indeed, there is no point in staying to fight a fight you can't win. However, I'm fairly certain that I would have said that from a safespot, and then logged.
So are you trying to tell me you don't see the difference between logging out in a safespot, and logging out right after you jump so the guy chasing you can't kill you before you disappear?
This was a long time ago, as I recall it was under jump cloak, but I may be mistaken. I do see the difference, and will not dispute it.
My point in posting was not to drag your name through the mud, simply point out that if every time someone from alliance X logged to evade combat his pursuer(s) made a thread, the forums would be a terrifying place. Not condoning nor condemning anybody (I personally make strict practice of never logging unless I'm at my destination), just pointing out that **** happens, accept it and move on.
So a guy from MC logged, if he was indeed traveling un-scouted without a half rack of stabs at least, he probably died 4 jumps later anyway, and deserved it quite frankly :P
Can we still be friends?
Steel Rat > if they only knew we make this **** up as we go |
pyrofox
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.27 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter next time fly a ship with more dps and you will get him before he disappears
pretty much the stupidest reply ever :)
If you were a ***** you'd probably spend most of your time in someones ass.
As it seems your aim or ability to grasp the true meaning of this post is wildy inaccurate.
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