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Murukan Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2007.07.27 08:27:00 - [91] Originally by: MynLiu NicAtoch . I sense an angry bear. I was curious as to such bearish comments and then i saw it's eternity inc. No mystery there, still remember the eos with named mining lasers and a double tank. Eternity ftw! Manlove by Zaphod Jones
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.07.27 09:45:00 - [92] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Piracy was supposed to be a profession in eve. Piracy implies non-consentual PvP for profit. Not fair fights. but non-consentual logging is a bad thing? we've all logged off at some point - be it because we're camped into a station or got caught poncing around in an inappropriate fit. You said it yourself - you've logged to save a ship that had no chance, what difference does it make whether you do that from a safespot or a gate? hell, logging at a gate means they're more likely to smash into some kind of hostiles when they log back in anyway. if they were doing this all day, every day, it might warrant a forum post but to be honest one character logging to avoid a vagapwning isn't really news worthy. let it go, dude.
Captain Thunk Omniscient Order	Posted - 2007.07.27 10:53:00 - [93] Originally by: ry ry Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Piracy was supposed to be a profession in eve. Piracy implies non-consentual PvP for profit. Not fair fights. but non-consentual logging is a bad thing? we've all logged off at some point - be it because we're camped into a station or got caught poncing around in an inappropriate fit. You said it yourself - you've logged to save a ship that had no chance, what difference does it make whether you do that from a safespot or a gate? hell, logging at a gate means they're more likely to smash into some kind of hostiles when they log back in anyway. if they were doing this all day, every day, it might warrant a forum post but to be honest one character logging to avoid a vagapwning isn't really news worthy. let it go, dude. The difference is that in one scenario, having logged off in a safespot no-one is on your overview and no-one is shooting you. In Shamis's situation, he had the target warp scrammed and was happily shooting him when he disappeared from the game. The fact someone has to point these differences out to you underscores the disappointing attitudes that now dominate Eve. Hilarious thread though, particularly enjoyed the MC-Bitter-Carebear memories, guess pirate gatecamps are lame when you walk into them, but perfectly fine when you're the camper or just sitting outside a station in a mothership with smartbombs flaring As previously pointed out, a competent pilot would not jump the gate, but warp to a safespot then log if needed - if scrammed before warping he could then jump the gate in safety. This isn't to say that the pilot in question, isn't competent, just that if he made a mistake for whatever reason then it would be reasonable to assume he should take responsibility for said mistake rather than taking a cheap cop-out. Too much Tom Balloonary going on if you ask me, I blame all the Clunks. Captain Thunk.
Griffinator Gallente Contraband Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:17:00 - [94] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 24/07/2007 22:01:06 Originally by: Julien Derida Originally by: Tassi Sham is definitly not a bottom feeding forum troll I can assure you this. snip I have never condoned logging to save one's ship, and we've kicked out at least 20 people in the last 3 years because of it. snip Off-topic -TheDagda ([email protected]) You've got ex-snigg in your midst, who I'm sure can confirm my sincerity with regards to this issue. correct this has been done in the past, i don't post in here much as the flamage and constant whining make me sad. Personally Shamis i would have waited a bit longer but hey we all go off the stack on occasion even me (Mr. Placid heh), i do know that tancred's connection does get a bit flexy (technical term )at times but i'm not sure what happened in this situation. Prob my last post for a long time see you on the field or by the ice cream truck either way i want more ice cream.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.27 12:03:00 - [95] Edited by: fire 59 on 27/07/2007 12:07:05 Edit - nm, it's not that important GOONIES = OMNIPOTENCE INCARNATE
aNtis0cial The Movement	Posted - 2007.07.31 22:51:00 - [96] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Shamis Orzoz I hope something is done. Such as? Publicly or privately state either that: - you don't care - you are investigating it - you don't believe me There are lots of possibilities under the category of something, other than nothing. You know, I've seen some pretty lame ** in the past few years myself, m8. Most of us who have been shooting people for 3-4 years now could probably write a small novel about the nonsense we've seen. SHC has some great posts about this. I'm not sure why you feel this incident, not even 24 hours old, deserves a public post. If you wanted some real answers, if this was that important to you, you could have simply waited a bit and shot me a mail on it (there wasn't one as of an hour or so ago). I'm unclear as to why you felt the need to make a public spectacle out of this. There are some alliances in this game who make it a policy of logging out entire fleets. Where is your indignation about them? Do I care? Sure. Tancred hasn't been very active lately, so I assume he was simply moving his ship out of our previous contract area. I'll ask about it and see what is said. Personally, I would have fit 5 WCS and a pair of i-stabs. This deserves a public post because you have a player in your alliance that is dumb (lets leave the * part out for now) enough to have to logout of the game to run from a vagabond with a gate near him... roflol. And for those saying that there is no way to kill/lose vagas try to fly one, you move your eves out of the overview for a sec and you have someone webbing you from nowhere. Most ppl have no idea the work and attention required to fly them effectively and they are not so evil the damage on them is not that good. :)
Kaleeb S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E. Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.31 23:28:00 - [97] Unfortunatly this sort of thing has become very common in eve and I would love it if CCP found a way to stop it, difficult to implement something that would not effect people who ctd etc. Its surprising that it was a MC guy although I would like to hear what happened from the guy himself rather than pointing the finger straight away.

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