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Sarukin
Echoes of the Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:21:00 -
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No matter how many times I copy the lib.ccp file, they end up below stdlib.ccp on the disk. Is there any way to physically move stdlib.ccp to a lower location on the disk?
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Muscaat
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:29:00 -
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Confirmed fix here (Kubuntu 7.04/Wine 0.9.41). What a bizarre error! You'd think the program would load the libraries in the order they were required... 
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Grenage
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Posted - 2007.07.29 18:30:00 -
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I've copied the files any they do eventually appear above stddlib.ccp. The Splash screen still crashes here though. How infuriating.
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Durrr Whaaa
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.29 20:01:00 -
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Confirmed.
openSUSE 10.2
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Zerg2k
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Posted - 2007.07.29 20:36:00 -
[155]
 Originally by: Sarukin
No matter how many times I copy the lib.ccp file, they end up below stdlib.ccp on the disk. Is there any way to physically move stdlib.ccp to a lower location on the disk?
It is possible to make some changes using "debugfs" but there is high risk of damaging filesystem if it is not done correctly. Maybe try moving "stdlib.ccp" instead or move it somewhere else, put some junk in "lib" (for exmaple from "bin") and then copy it back (or try it with "lib.ccp"). Try to observe how files move through the list.
Kernel determinates where to place files in order to reduce filesystem fragmentation so it is not so easy to predict.
If I find any other easy way to do it I will post it.
Hmm... perhaps creating other filesystem (that don't care so much about fragmentation) in a file and mounting it as "lib"... but... lol... :-P
Best solution would be a patch from CCP.
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.07.29 21:47:00 -
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I still wonder why it happens so seldom for windows... or windoze/eve has another bug with the same symptoms...
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.29 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 29/07/2007 23:20:15
Originally by: Sarukin
No matter how many times I copy the lib.ccp file, they end up below stdlib.ccp on the disk. Is there any way to physically move stdlib.ccp to a lower location on the disk?
something like this perhaps :
cp stdlib.cpp stdlib2.cpp && \
cp lib.cpp lib2.cpp && \
rm stdlib.cpp && \
mv stdlib2.cpp stdlib.cpp && \
rm lib.cpp && \
mv lib2.cpp lib.cpp
Originally by: Kadesh Priestess
I still wonder why it happens so seldom for windows... or windoze/eve has another bug with the same symptoms...
Perhaps windows is sorting it by name by default or something?
2007-07-19 20:26 |
Zerg2k
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Posted - 2007.07.29 23:21:00 -
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This is because of different filesystems. NTFS have different structure and organization than ext2. Perhaps NTFS just writes "lib.ccp" and "stdlib.ccp" one after another and does otherwise only in certain situations, for example on fragmented filesystem and perhaps ext2 always tries to optimize it a little and when it is desired it writes "stdlib.ccp" first. Or something like that :-P
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.07.29 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zerg2k
This is because of different filesystems. NTFS have different structure and organization than ext2. Perhaps NTFS just writes "lib.ccp" and "stdlib.ccp" one after another and does otherwise only in certain situations, for example on fragmented filesystem and perhaps ext2 always tries to optimize it a little and when it is desired it writes "stdlib.ccp" first. Or something like that :-P
Actually with ext3 it gathers data for 5s or so before starting to write, so that is very much possible.
2007-07-19 20:26 |
jansaell
Gallente
Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.30 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: jansaell on 30/07/2007 16:39:08
Well i tried the copy lib*.ccp but it did not work.
Still splash and hang.
Kubuntu 7.04 - wine 0.9.41
Output of ls -lU
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jan jan 10704 2006-03-26 10:09 socket.pyo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jan jan 8562 2006-03-26 10:10 slprofile.pyo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jan jan 48356 2006-03-26 10:09 nasty.pyo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jan jan 7597 2006-03-26 10:09 bluepy.pyo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jan jan 10875 2006-03-26 10:09 inifile.pyo
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jan jan 21282 2006-03-26 10:09 log.pyo
-rw-r--r-- 1 jan jan 148518 2007-07-28 19:53 lib2.cpp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jan jan 55440 2006-03-26 10:10 PyFreeType.pyo
-rw-r--r-- 1 jan jan 1567727 2007-07-25 09:57 stdlib.ccp
-rw-r--r-- 1 jan jan 148518 2007-07-25 09:57 lib.ccp
-rwxr-xr-x 1 jan jan 3892 2006-03-26 10:09 ccp_exceptions.pyo
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Barrick Stormsworn
Minmatar
CAD Inc.
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.07.30 17:44:00 -
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Confirmed working at 16 copies, but it had to be un-renamed. If I changed it to lib16.ccp, then it moved lower than stdlib.ccp. If I left it as the default name (was just hitting ctrl+c then ctrl+v repeatedly) of lib2 (16th copy).ccp then it was higher than stdlib.ccp and it worked.
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Zerg2k
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Posted - 2007.07.30 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: jansaell
Well i tried the copy lib*.ccp but it did not work.
Still splash and hang.
Hmm, maybe it is another bug. o_O
Do You get similar errors from LogServer/WINE as mentioned earlier in this thread?
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Onar Maldarian
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Posted - 2007.07.31 10:40:00 -
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Imho this confirms that (at least some of the) EVE developers are just crap when coding.
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Popsikle
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.01 01:22:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Onar Maldarian
Imho this confirms that (at least some of the) EVE developers are just crap when coding.
Its 100% possible that its not eve's fault... It could be the way cedaga handles dll calls because the issue doesn't happen on wine, nor on windows.
I love how people these days are all ready to **** all over ccp, when it isnt even confirmed to be ccp's fault.
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Iku Solice
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Posted - 2007.08.01 07:20:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Popsikle
Originally by: Onar Maldarian
Imho this confirms that (at least some of the) EVE developers are just crap when coding.
Its 100% possible that its not eve's fault... It could be the way cedaga handles dll calls because the issue doesn't happen on wine, nor on windows.
I love how people these days are all ready to **** all over ccp, when it isnt even confirmed to be ccp's fault.
I read somewhere that it's appened to a Window's user to... so...
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.08.01 07:45:00 -
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They're humans too, so i suggest stop that whining. Ofc they can mistake... we've found workaround at last. And we're happy =)
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Iku Solice
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Posted - 2007.08.01 08:29:00 -
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Edited by: Iku Solice on 01/08/2007 08:30:02
i'm a poor guy :(
winehq update to 9.42 this morning...
and...
EVE crash again ! ouinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe" failed, status c0000135
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Iku Solice
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Posted - 2007.08.01 11:25:00 -
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the winehq's dev answer me that it would be repared in git version of wine
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Tssa
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.02 18:46:00 -
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I can confirm that ln -s lib.ccp lib3.ccp worked to get past the splash & crash...now working on weird graphics problems after that =)
Let's have a traditional thanks giving this year...invite the neighbors over for dinner..then kill them and take their T2 stuff!!
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johnhoward
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Posted - 2007.08.02 23:28:00 -
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Very strange. I reinstalled from scratch and I still had the problem even though lib.ccp came first.
999467 -rw-r--r-- 1 fenrir fenrir 148518 2007-08-03 10:21 lib.ccp
999468 -rw-r--r-- 1 fenrir fenrir 1567727 2007-08-03 10:21 stdlib.ccp
However, once I copied the file so it came first AND had a higher file id I got past splash onto a black login screen (I could hear choppy audio).
999587 -rw-r--r-- 1 fenrir fenrir 148518 2007-08-03 10:21 lib1.ccp
999467 -rw-r--r-- 1 fenrir fenrir 148518 2007-08-03 10:21 lib.ccp
999468 -rw-r--r-- 1 fenrir fenrir 1567727 2007-08-03 10:21 stdlib.ccp
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T Dave
Gallente
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 03:57:00 -
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Edited by: T Dave on 03/08/2007 03:58:11
I rushed ahead and upgraded to 0.9.42 in the blind hope that that would solve the problems - it didn't.
And then I found this thread, followed the symlink idea up to lib7.ccp and saw it was positioned above the other files in the list. Great, but it didn't play with 0.9.42.
So I downgraded back to 0.9.41 and... it works! :-D Just in time for me taking this laptop away with me for the weekend as well - perfect.
For those who spent the time to post solutions - thanks aplenty.
So who's going to try and fix 0.9.42....? 
Thanks again
TD
P.S. For those who are as n00b as me - I found this page useful in working out how to best downgrade (and stay downgraded) on a Debian [apt / dpkg] based system:
http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HowToWine#Downgrade_wine
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Iku Solice
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Posted - 2007.08.03 08:13:00 -
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Wine's devs known the bug and correction is coming with 9.43
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.08.03 09:36:00 -
[173]
Originally by: johnhoward
Very strange. I reinstalled from scratch and I still had the problem even though lib.ccp came first.
I've noticed that too. Yea, that lib should be present both above and below stdlib in list. Otherwise it won't load...
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Alternative idea to NOS |
Methuselar
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Posted - 2007.08.05 12:36:00 -
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So we still need Windows/DirectX/SQL Server/IIS in the time human being could do warp jump,FTL communication, clone and capsule, etc? 
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Holier Than Thou |
Rieger VaunBraun
Amarr
Crazy Canucks
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Posted - 2007.08.05 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Rieger VaunBraun on 05/08/2007 18:09:59
Sorry, mis post, wrong thread......
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jansaell
Gallente
Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:33:00 -
[176]
Just to confirm.
I have now tried bit the new wine and it crashes but now it come up with a message saying that it is a dll load error.
I also tried cedega and that just hanges.
No luck so faar
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Lordius Karaith
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Posted - 2007.08.10 05:01:00 -
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I've gotten to the point of splash and crash by installing an older version of wine... however I can't even fine my lib.ccp files to copy and paste them.
no .ccp's in the bin folder.
Not hidden either.
Anyone?
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Kadesh Priestess
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Posted - 2007.08.10 07:17:00 -
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Cuz they're in lib folder, not in bin.
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Alternative idea to NOS |
Lars Intarestum
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Posted - 2007.08.11 15:05:00 -
[179]
I'm still having problems... Might be because of the sound bit though.
drew@sakura:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CCP/EVE/lib$ ls -lU
total 1992
-rw-r--r-- 1 drew drew 148518 2007-08-11 10:53 lib3.cpp
-rw-r--r-- 1 drew drew 1567727 2007-07-25 05:57 stdlib.ccp
-rw-r--r-- 1 drew drew 148518 2007-08-11 10:50 lib2.cpp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 drew drew 7 2007-08-11 10:55 lib4.cpp -> lib.ccp
-rw-r--r-- 1 drew drew 148518 2007-07-25 05:57 lib.ccp
drew@sakura:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CCP/EVE/lib$ wine ../eve.exe
fixme:process:IsWow64Process (0xffffffff 0x33fc34) stub!
fixme:actctx:FindActCtxSectionStringW 00000000 (null) 2 L"msvcr80.dll" 0x347b2cfixme:midi:OSS_MidiInit Synthesizer supports MIDI in. Not yet supported.
drew@sakura:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/CCP/EVE/lib$
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Sevarus James
Minmatar
Meridian Dynamics
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.12 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Iku Solice
Wine's devs known the bug and correction is coming with 9.43
.9.42 and .9.43 are garbage per app db and testing. (mine own.) regression in there somewhere.
.9.41 is still king o' the hill for running eve under wine.
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