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Darius Shakor Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.07.25 09:55:00 - [31] Originally by: Tyr Vaantau Bellicose: http://staff.ccpgames.com/redundancy/devblogs/bellicose.jpg http://pic.eve-online.com/devblogs/mc3_thukker.jpg <--- Thukker version, btw That is the Brutor version, not the Thukker version. Nice list. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Venec Rave Technologies Inc. Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.07.25 10:32:00 - [32] New celestis looks sweet. Much, much better than a current one. And vexor.. mhhhm... delicious.
Kyden Gallente Path of Light R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.25 10:48:00 - [33] The mega looks sweet
Stellar Vix State War Academy	Posted - 2007.07.25 12:57:00 - [34] Your missing a good bit of pictures from MMORPG.com that includes the new ferox and a few other amarrian ships. ========= 400x120 13kbs... SWA Qualified Instructor and Mascot or sorts Ensign Stellar Vix
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.25 13:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Stellar Vix Your missing a good bit of pictures from MMORPG.com that includes the new ferox and a few other amarrian ships. once again you called? http://shexna.dk/evescreens/gallery.php ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:25:00 - [36] O. M. G. My wife is going to go crazy when she sees those pictures. (Because she knows I'm gonna start bugging her for a better PC :-) -G -- Nothing I say represents my corp. Unless I say otherwise.
Talos Vaden Caldari SCORPICO INC. Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.25 15:35:00 - [37] Originally by: Nicholas Barker win EPIC WIN! Wow, those pics look fantastic. I want to see a pic of the new cormorant, cause I'm flying one now.
Abye Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.26 21:31:00 - [38] The Jay Leno Mobile (Megathron) got even more pimp ___ Inappropriate signature. Please do not use this signature. Email us for more information -Eldo ([email protected])
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.07.26 21:37:00 - [39] If I ask really nicely can I see an updated Visitant?
xeneon	Posted - 2007.07.26 21:57:00 - [40] drools noob question but when are these graphic enhancements coming out? and will the entire universe of eve receive a graphic enhancement?
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.07.26 22:13:00 - [41] Originally by: xeneon drools noob question but when are these graphic enhancements coming out? and will the entire universe of eve receive a graphic enhancement? Sometime after Rev 3.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.26 22:15:00 - [42] Originally by: xeneon drools noob question but when are these graphic enhancements coming out? and will the entire universe of eve receive a graphic enhancement? yes it runs on DX9. the current one doesn't use an DX lol. it doesn't even use your GPU which casues a lot of people with dual core CPUS (which eve doesn't use either) to get lag. so yeah trinity 2.0 and the graphics update the win! by the way you know were getting walking to right? :) ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Franga Caldari NQX Innovations Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.26 22:17:00 - [43] Awesome. I, for one, was very interested in that previous thread but never posted. Thanks for repost. Love the armor plates on the new Gallente and Amarr stuff. Sexah! _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now.
BhallSpawn	Posted - 2007.07.27 13:45:00 - [44] How bout investing company resources to fixing lag and fleet combat so peoples modules will actually activate in war. I'm tired of eve lag.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.27 13:49:00 - [45] Originally by: BhallSpawn How bout investing company resources to fixing lag and fleet combat so peoples modules will actually activate in war. I'm tired of eve lag. ...shakes head... Please no one ever TRY to explain it to him... ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Malakai Draevyn Caldari The Lions of New Avalon	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:23:00 - [46] Originally by: MotherMoon the current one doesn't use an DX lol. it doesn't even use your GPU which casues a lot of people with dual core CPUS (which eve doesn't use either) to get lag. Ummmmmm You sure about this ?!? Originally by: https://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=124 Minimal system requirements OS: Windows« System 2000 SP2 /XP CPU: Intel Pentium« III 800 MHz or AMD Athlon 800 MHz RAM: 512 MB or more HD space: 6.0 GB Network: 56k modem or better Internet connection Video: 32 MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting, such as NVIDIA« GeForce™ 2 class card or above Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers Believe me - it does use the GPU - have you ever seen pure software rendering at a resolution of 1280x1024 @ 32bpp or better? Awful FPS and it looks nasty, pixellated and grainy. Of course it uses DirectX. It also uses the GPU on the graphics card. The new graphics engine using DX9 is a tactical decision - it keeps the doors open for people who don't want to upgrade to Vista, coz MS ain't gonna port DX10 to the XP platform. Dual Core CPUs aren't utilized to their maximum - this is true (programming a truely multithreaded game is a pain in the rear end) BUT you're drawing entirely the wrong conclusions here with regard to lag. Not having a true dual core machine (I have a P4 3ghz with HT) I can't comment on the experience, but it might have something to do with the fact that the game runtime is having issues with being a single-threaded application being split over two cores by the hardware. Hopefully, the new Trinity graphics engine will include optimisations for the new breeds of CPU and GPU... but equally hopefully they will maintain the performance of the client for older hardware. ..:: MD ::..
Benco97 Gallente Nova Inc. Pride - Honor - Duty	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:27:00 - [47] Are there any new models for 'roids? "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:33:00 - [48] Originally by: Malakai Draevyn Originally by: MotherMoon the current one doesn't use an DX lol. it doesn't even use your GPU which casues a lot of people with dual core CPUS (which eve doesn't use either) to get lag. Ummmmmm You sure about this ?!? Originally by: https://support.eve-online.com/Pages/KB/Article.aspx?id=124 Minimal system requirements OS: Windows« System 2000 SP2 /XP CPU: Intel Pentium« III 800 MHz or AMD Athlon 800 MHz RAM: 512 MB or more HD space: 6.0 GB Network: 56k modem or better Internet connection Video: 32 MB 3D graphics card with Hardware Transform and Lighting, such as NVIDIA« GeForceÖ 2 class card or above Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers Believe me - it does use the GPU - have you ever seen pure software rendering at a resolution of 1280x1024 @ 32bpp or better? Awful FPS and it looks nasty, pixellated and grainy. Of course it uses DirectX. It also uses the GPU on the graphics card. The new graphics engine using DX9 is a tactical decision - it keeps the doors open for people who don't want to upgrade to Vista, coz MS ain't gonna port DX10 to the XP platform. Dual Core CPUs aren't utilized to their maximum - this is true (programming a truely multithreaded game is a pain in the rear end) BUT you're drawing entirely the wrong conclusions here with regard to lag. Not having a true dual core machine (I have a P4 3ghz with HT) I can't comment on the experience, but it might have something to do with the fact that the game runtime is having issues with being a single-threaded application being split over two cores by the hardware. Hopefully, the new Trinity graphics engine will include optimisations for the new breeds of CPU and GPU... but equally hopefully they will maintain the performance of the client for older hardware. whoops:P still don't know about the GPU thing, I clearly remember a dev commenting on this someehere... ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:36:00 - [49] Everything looks good, but I'm a little worried that the Scorpion looks like a painted model. The windows look like blobs of paint on a model kit, and the highlighted hull edges look "drybrushed". It still looks better than the older model though. TG.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:42:00 - [50] Originally by: Tyson Gallane Everything looks good, but I'm a little worried that the Scorpion looks like a painted model. The windows look like blobs of paint on a model kit, and the highlighted hull edges look "drybrushed". It still looks better than the older model though. TG. I should probably interject at this point to point out that there's a mix of DX9 and DX10 graphics in here. The pod, Amarrian Stargate, Merlin and a couple of others are the DX10 versions, but that "next gen" scorpion is actually still using DX9 - just with a texture update. CCP announced (somewhere... can't be bothered to go find it) that when DX10 comes in, the DX9 client will get an upgrade as well. That new Scorp texture is one of those upgrades - a new texture. Looks better, still not DX10 quality. I'd quite like to see what the REAL DX10 scorpion looks like, tbh... ***
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:52:00 - [51] Edited by: MotherMoon on 27/07/2007 14:52:51 Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 27/07/2007 14:44:58 Originally by: Tyson Gallane Everything looks good, but I'm a little worried that the Scorpion looks like a painted model. The windows look like blobs of paint on a model kit, and the highlighted hull edges look "drybrushed". It still looks better than the older model though. TG. I should probably interject at this point to point out that there's a mix of DX9 and DX10 graphics in here. The pod, Amarrian Stargate, Merlin and a couple of others are the DX10 versions, but that "next gen" scorpion is actually still using DX9 - just with a texture update. Same goes for the Abaddon, btw. CCP announced (somewhere... can't be bothered to go find it) that when DX10 comes in, the DX9 client will get an upgrade as well. That new Scorp texture is one of those upgrades - a new texture. Looks better, still not DX10 quality. I'd quite like to see what the REAL DX10 scorpion looks like, tbh... just a texture update? have you even looked at the models? grrr.. then again I'm just an art geek beyond all reason and a 3-D artist I suppose I see these sort of things as VERY easy to see... ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:58:00 - [52] Oh, the model is definitely much better. Much more detailed. It's just that it, um, looks like a model. That's my unprofessional opinion anyway. TG.
Parallax 7D Aliastra	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:01:00 - [53] These ships all look greasy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Marge: But, Mr. Ambassador, how are we going to get home? Ambassador: Beats me. Try getting a job and earning some money. That's what I did. By the way, ambassador's taken.
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:02:00 - [54] Edited by: Stitcher on 27/07/2007 15:02:48 Originally by: MotherMoon just a texture update? have you even looked at the models? grrr.. then again I'm just an art geek beyond all reason and a 3-D artist I suppose I see these sort of things as VERY easy to see... 3D artist here myself, too. Observe. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/pkmx/Scorpion_New.JPG Notice that the model has not been updated. It's the same shape, same number of polys - the model itself has not been updated, it's merely been given a new, high-res skin. It's a nice, high-quality skin that makes the model look a lot better.... but it's not a DX10 update. Notice also that the lighting is of an identical quality to what we get from the EVE engine right now, and that the objects in the background - the planet, contrail and running lights - are identical to what we already have. http://pic.eve-online.com/devblogs/pod.jpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0701/CS4_LowModel_Map.jpg In these instances, not only have the models been given higher-res textures, but the models themselves are substantially changed. The poly count is significantly increased by the number of extra modeled details. Furthermore, the textures are of a higher resolution even than the updated Scorpion texture, and the lighting effects are considerably improved upon. Unless I'm very much mistaken, the scorpion is still running on DX9, whereas those renders for the station and capsule are more along the lines of what I would expect from DX10. ***
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:03:00 - [55] Originally by: Tyson Gallane Oh, the model is definitely much better. Much more detailed. It's just that it, um, looks like a model. That's my unprofessional opinion anyway. TG. I'm not saying that to you :P your point is the texture could be better. my point is while that may be true, the models are so much detailed it's jaw dorpping. even without the textures they are dorp dead profession. just don't forget is right about the DX 9 thing. it has that texture because it needs to run on DX9. but in NO way let anyoone tell you it's just a tetuxe upgrade. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Malakai Draevyn Caldari The Lions of New Avalon	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:10:00 - [56] Edited by: Malakai Draevyn on 27/07/2007 16:11:58 edit Argh - website screwed up and posted nothing ! ..:: MD ::..
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:34:00 - [57] Edited by: MotherMoon on 27/07/2007 16:34:56 Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 27/07/2007 15:02:48 Originally by: MotherMoon just a texture update? have you even looked at the models? grrr.. then again I'm just an art geek beyond all reason and a 3-D artist I suppose I see these sort of things as VERY easy to see... 3D artist here myself, too. Observe. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/pkmx/Scorpion_New.JPG Notice that the model has not been updated. It's the same shape, same number of polys - the model itself has not been updated, it's merely been given a new, high-res skin. It's a nice, high-quality skin that makes the model look a lot better.... but it's not a DX10 update. Notice also that the lighting is of an identical quality to what we get from the EVE engine right now, and that the objects in the background - the planet, contrail and running lights - are identical to what we already have. http://pic.eve-online.com/devblogs/pod.jpg http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0701/CS4_LowModel_Map.jpg In these instances, not only have the models been given higher-res textures, but the models themselves are substantially changed. The poly count is significantly increased by the number of extra modeled details. Furthermore, the textures are of a higher resolution even than the updated Scorpion texture, and the lighting effects are considerably improved upon. Unless I'm very much mistaken, the scorpion is still running on DX9, whereas those renders for the station and capsule are more along the lines of what I would expect from DX10. lets get a nice close up shall we? old note the model has many flat sides to it. I circles them in red. now for the new DX9 model new Remember this is only talking about the model, not the texture differences. A.the front of wing has a top and bottom overlapping structure that the spike is coming out of. also the spike is no longer jsut falt it goes at at the base. B.EVERYTHING C.cool new wing shape D.whole new shape to this section of the ship. no longer a flat plane. E.This isn't a texture it's a detailed model of 4 sci fi things. just like with it's position inside B, it used to be nothing but a flat model. F.fun new addition to the ships model. better seen form other angles as a brunch of small planes stacked around each other. G.no longer a flat model here either. H.another example of more polygons. do you really want me to do the back? or is my point clear now? are you really an artist? or just an artist that didn't look closely? or is blind :P don't forget eve is running off of what... DX7 right now? ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:36:00 - [58] Very nice collection. A few things though: Originally by: Tyr Vaantau New Hyperion: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/SliVeROVeRloRD/9294.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/SliVeROVeRloRD/9295.jpg Seen that a few times so far, but I am not sure if that is the new look. It seems identical to the current look to me. Missing: One MMORPG site also had the new graphics for the ferox and augoror a while ago, but I cannot remember its name.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.27 16:38:00 - [59] Originally by: Aramendel Very nice collection. A few things though: Originally by: Tyr Vaantau New Hyperion: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/SliVeROVeRloRD/9294.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/SliVeROVeRloRD/9295.jpg Seen that a few times so far, but I am not sure if that is the new look. It seems identical to the current look to me. Missing: One MMORPG site also had the new graphics for the ferox and augoror a while ago, but I cannot remember its name. well it's bit different. the thing is, newer ships already are abit more detailed than the ones form 2001. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.27 17:19:00 - [60] Looked it up and, yes, you are right. It is a new model. The differences are rather minor, though, even for a tier3 ship. The abaddon has much more obvious differences. The biggest for the hyp is the different engine trail color.

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