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Digital Solaris	Posted - 2007.07.27 04:17:00 - [31] We live in a age where civil courage is considered to be a trait, and a rare one at that, we also live in a time where compassion and empathy is signs of weakness. If anything, find out what went through the kids minds as they did this.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.07.27 05:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Lluthiunne Egan You dont see the irony of your first statement? The sound of a shotgun, yeah thats awesome! Unfortunately you would be the one listening to the sound of several shotguns from people far more inclined to use them. Give them the right to bear arms as well, not a clever solution. Well, there's some irony to be had in my statement, but it still holds as truth. A pack of knobs obstructing an ambulance is not = an all-out gun battle on public streets. As to the knobs carrying shotguns, I would like to quote the great sage Dennis Leary: "The answer isn't less guns it's more guns! Get more ***** guns and give 'em to the right **ing people!" Those people not being the chavs who block an ambulance. If the gutter scum who shoulder-check and intimidate old people outside the grocery store had even an inkling that grandpa may be packing a .45, I highly doubt they'd conduct their shenanigans.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.07.27 05:38:00 - [33] This is why all emergency personel should be issued standard self defense gear; I'd like to see the little punk who can take 100,000 volts across the neck and still play tough, hell, remain standing.
Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2007.07.27 07:20:00 - [34] Things such as these make me yearn for the day the whole world will be cleansed in an apocalyptic battle of epic proportions that will leave dead people all over the planet and only 10% alive to rebuild civilization *"The Theology Council is watching ... YOU!!!"* Viva VENEZUELA!!!
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.07.27 08:21:00 - [35] Originally by: Derovius Vaden This is why all emergency personel should be issued standard self defense gear; I'd like to see the little punk who can take 100,000 volts across the neck and still play tough, hell, remain standing. "Dispatch? You're going to have to send another unit out to my call. I'm gonna have to bring in this snotnose I had to whup with my Asp; I think I broke a couple of his ribs." Originally by: Brujo Loco Things such as these make me yearn for the day the whole world will be cleansed in an apocalyptic battle of epic proportions that will leave dead people all over the planet and only 10% alive to rebuild civilization I stopped holding that opinion when I realized that the odds of me being a 10%er were... well, 1 in 10. I'd take it in poker, but not surviving the apocalypse.
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.07.27 08:47:00 - [36] Originally by: Mitch Manus "Im all for beating the little *** with a stick." Sure you will "Overcrowding... how ammusing, its a goddammed prison, cram the *** in till they cant take a without it soaking 4 other people. Not humane? Tough , their serving time for a crime." I don't think you see the point of prison... its supposed to offer a chance to reform and become a better person not torture... "The world needs sorting out, I think its about time we stop people from commiting crimes by making them too *** scared of the consequences." riiight i'm guessing you're never been to prison. prison is boring as ****, and that's about all.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.07.27 09:05:00 - [37] Originally by: ry ry i'm guessing you're never been to prison. prison is boring as ***, and that's about all. I'm guessing you're not from the US. Here we use the term "prison" to denote a long-term incarceration and "jail" for pretty much everything else. Jail* is boring. All you do is play cards and wait for your next meal. Prison is a whole other kettle of fish, where you play rousing games of Dodge The Bun Dart and try not to get shanked in the yard.
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.07.27 09:14:00 - [38] probably, but i thought this thread was about the UK. ps. we have shanks too.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.07.27 10:18:00 - [39] Getting vaguley back to the original point, where even I think killing 9 out of 10 people on the planet is just a little over the top! There was a court case recently involving a Paparazzi photographer and Heather Mills. Once the trial was over, it was widely published that the photographer had 132 previous convictions for dishonesty. Where does it stop? At what point do we need to make it clear that a person is not a contributing member of society and do something serious about it? I was pondering the idea of a return to the concept of "outlaws" recently. If people can't or won't live by the rules of our society, then they are moved to a region where they are not subject to any laws, but the law will not protect them either. Then they can do whatever what they want, except leave that region. Not for a first offence obviously, but when someone has proved over and over that they are not willing to partake in normal society, there should be a way of removing them from that very society.
Succoros Caldari The Nest	Posted - 2007.07.27 10:42:00 - [40] http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070726/tuk-britain-nigeria-crime-a7ad41d.html Paramedics stopped from helping a man having a heart attack and a man shot for asking people to stop smoking, what a country ----------------------------------- Death is more eternal than life. Everyone dies but not everyone lives.
Azirapheal Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.07.27 10:48:00 - [41] Originally by: Xen Gin I'm also inclined to make punji stick pits around the inside of my garden to stop them steaming through. be aware that if you do this with knowledge that persons will go through your garden you can be liable. what we have done to stop persons going through our garden is simple... razorwire. we had alot of fun with one burglar dropping in behind our shed and getting very tangled in the stuff. completely unable to get out while we then proceeded to come out of the house, light a barbeque, sit drink and be very very insulting - literally every move he made sliced his skin... and after about 9 hours of not helping him... we called the police. we got away with it because there were 8 of us who denied knowledge of him being there, and that behind the shed was where we stored the razorwire. Originally by: CCP Wrangler you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.07.27 10:52:00 - [42] Yeah, that poor guy who asked the people to stop smoking is going to have his life support switched off today. He's been classed as brain dead for a few days but has been kept alive to allow his family to visit and pay their last respects. ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6918533.stm ) If a champion heavyweight boxer who is 6 foot 9 can get killed so easily, what hope do the rest of us have?
Sean Hernandez	Posted - 2007.07.27 10:55:00 - [43] I've got into a few arguments over my views: If you transgress against society, you have a debt to society therefore you now belong to society until the debt is filled. This is an extension of the chain-gang idea. For minor crimes you are sent to work as a robot A recycling picking line or cleaning the loo roll out of the sewage works intake with a rake (make it a warm summer day). Medium? more serious crimes against the person Sent to clean up more serious toxic situations - possibly being supplied with safety equipment, possibly not. For the most serious crimes LIFE SENTENCE - you now belong to the state - Your body will be used until it dies. no cares are given to these individuals, they have committed the worst crimes against people (our legal system still leans too heavily to the crime against property) These bodies would be used against the worst of all possible situations, no parole and no escape (something like the Running man neckband - sorry for crap movie reference) Jobs like lowering the level of water in chernobyl reactor with a drinking straw - cleaning up crude oil spills in shorts with a cloth. My thoughts are with the man's partner and family Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Locus Bey Gallente Qalandar	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:01:00 - [44] Golly gee whillickers, here I am thinking we evolved century over century to this fine point in today, and then I read a thread not out of place in the Taliban daily. I guess this means beneath the veneer of the educated considered thinker beats the heart of a neanderthal with a 12 gauge. Personally, I think your a bunch of pansies for not getting together a good old mob and giving these undesirables a good old beating! Then drive them over the border to be someone elses problem! Hell yeah!!!
Constantine Arcanum IMPERIAL SENATE	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:03:00 - [45] After much debate I have decided on a suitable punishment for the chav denizens of our fair island. a Chelsea Smile Sit said charver on a chair, then proceed to cut into the sides of his mouth with a stanley knife, slightly their cheeks. Then, proceed to shoot that ned in the knees with a .45 pistol. The resulting screams will cause the pikey to open his mouth wide, tearing his face open because of the cuts you made earlier. A fitting punishment.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.07.27 11:13:00 - [46] Originally by: Sean Hernandez I've got into a few arguments over my views: If you transgress against society, you have a debt to society therefore you now belong to society until the debt is filled. This is an extension of the chain-gang idea. For minor crimes you are sent to work as a robot A recycling picking line or cleaning the loo roll out of the sewage works intake with a rake (make it a warm summer day). Medium? more serious crimes against the person Sent to clean up more serious toxic situations - possibly being supplied with safety equipment, possibly not. For the most serious crimes LIFE SENTENCE - you now belong to the state - Your body will be used until it dies. no cares are given to these individuals, they have committed the worst crimes against people (our legal system still leans too heavily to the crime against property) These bodies would be used against the worst of all possible situations, no parole and no escape (something like the Running man neckband - sorry for crap movie reference) Jobs like lowering the level of water in chernobyl reactor with a drinking straw - cleaning up crude oil spills in shorts with a cloth. My thoughts are with the man's partner and family Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. I've always advocated a 24-hour appeals process to all crimes of property exceeding grand theft auto, followed immediately by application of .38 hollow point to the right temple. Crimes against persons would be individually legislated. There may be mitigating circumstances in a cold-blooded killing, but you don't "accidentally" steal a Lear jet, and I shouldn't bloody well be paying $38,000+ to house you for 20 years.
Charlie Crocodile Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.27 14:52:00 - [47] Thieving scum get chased Not Rick btw!
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:51:00 - [48] lol nice rickroll :D
Blacksilk Caldari Absolutely No Return	Posted - 2007.07.27 15:57:00 - [49] Bring back national service.
Captain Hudson Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.07.27 18:53:00 - [50] They should really bring zero torloence(sp?) here to london while they still have the chance, i mean its getting out of control. Kids shooting kids, people shooting people asking them to stop smoking and just last night a gang of 15 kids chased a young lad down and exacuted him with a gun. No one respects the police anymore as they cant do anything with those little trunchen things they have, give the police guns and more freedom from the killer paperwork they have. 10 years time and london will be as bad as new york was in parts! Originally by: SPQRMocton We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.07.27 19:01:00 - [51] martial law !
Kolwrath Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.27 20:45:00 - [52] Edited by: Kolwrath on 27/07/2007 20:46:19 Well as another poster stated, there was a reason those punks were acting the way they were and addressing that would actually resolve the problem. Corporal punishment would not. Currently in the United States they are playing with the "get tough on crime" game and it has resulted in overcrowded prisons (1.75 million people in state and federal prisons in the U.S) and many stories on the news about unjust sentences (guy getting 3 years for shoplifting under the three strike rule in California(??), a teenage boy getting sentenced as a sex offender because he had consensual sex with a minor at a party). Crime rates have been going down overall but at no higher rate than other industrialized nations who do not exercise "tough crime" policies. Time and time again deterrents have been proven to be ineffective in reducing crime. What needs to be done is solve the social issues that created these messes. Unfortunately "getting tough on crime" is what the populace, and thus politicians, see as the quick and easy way to fix such problems. Fix the root ... dont bash the limbs.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.07.27 21:04:00 - [53] Originally by: Kolwrath Fix the root ... dont bash the limbs. You said Corporal Punishment wouldn't work, then gave examples of why jail time doesn't work! Fix the root. And then bash the limbs if people don't get the message.
SubTig	Posted - 2007.07.27 21:32:00 - [54] I have a great deal of respect for fire crews and paramedics asI have worked very closely with both on many jobs. But as a police officer you would not believe the amount of grief we get. We get attacked, followed home from work, spat at, abused, assaulted. You get idiots not getting out of the way when you are blue lighting it to a job, you get people who will run or drive in front of you on purpose. You get complaints designed just to get you into trouble or sacked. You've got a command structure that won't support you and a government making each day at your job easier for the criminals to get away with stuff. Oh and crap money, but still we go into work each day expecting the above and worse since death sits on our shoulders or hides behind the mountain of paper work we have to get through. Still it's great, Saturday late shift tomorrow, loads of fun:))) SubTig Originally by: Ja'kar Edited by: Ja''kar on 26/07/2007 22:40:25 As a firefighter, have you come across the gas can in the car trap yet? Its a real nasty thing to do, because the gas canister looks like someone in the car, the firefighter have to go in and check. Is there a lot of crime directed at the fire services while working? What else do they do? I ask as a student of criminology Sorry, I think that is really bad, but no to ur suggestion... Tho I think bacons should be hurt a lot
SubTig	Posted - 2007.07.27 21:36:00 - [55] 4 words European court of human rights!!!!! SubTig Originally by: Captain Hudson No one respects the police anymore as they cant do anything with those little trunchen things they have, give the police guns and more freedom from the killer paperwork they have. 10 years time and london will be as bad as new york was in parts!
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.07.27 21:54:00 - [56] Originally by: Brujo Loco Things such as these make me yearn for the day the whole world will be cleansed in an apocalyptic battle of epic proportions that will leave dead people all over the planet and only 10% alive to rebuild civilization Sadly I must admit that I feel this way too regardless if I'm in the 10% or not. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.07.27 22:02:00 - [57] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Brujo Loco Things such as these make me yearn for the day the whole world will be cleansed in an apocalyptic battle of epic proportions that will leave dead people all over the planet and only 10% alive to rebuild civilization Sadly I must admit that I feel this way too regardless if I'm in the 10% or not. 600 million people is not a small segment of humanity, I'm thinking along the lines of 60,000, or 0.00001%.
Captain Hudson Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.07.27 22:48:00 - [58] Originally by: SubTig I have a great deal of respect for fire crews and paramedics asI have worked very closely with both on many jobs. But as a police officer you would not believe the amount of grief we get. We get attacked, followed home from work, spat at, abused, assaulted. You get idiots not getting out of the way when you are blue lighting it to a job, you get people who will run or drive in front of you on purpose. You get complaints designed just to get you into trouble or sacked. You've got a command structure that won't support you and a government making each day at your job easier for the criminals to get away with stuff. Oh and crap money, but still we go into work each day expecting the above and worse since death sits on our shoulders or hides behind the mountain of paper work we have to get through. Still it's great, Saturday late shift tomorrow, loads of fun:))) SubTig Originally by: Ja'kar Edited by: Ja''kar on 26/07/2007 22:40:25 As a firefighter, have you come across the gas can in the car trap yet? Its a real nasty thing to do, because the gas canister looks like someone in the car, the firefighter have to go in and check. Is there a lot of crime directed at the fire services while working? What else do they do? I ask as a student of criminology Sorry, I think that is really bad, but no to ur suggestion... Tho I think bacons should be hurt a lot they need to give u guys guns and just let u shoot anyone that gets in the way. seriously Originally by: SPQRMocton We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.07.27 23:08:00 - [59] Originally by: SubTig I have a great deal of respect for fire crews and paramedics asI have worked very closely with both on many jobs. But as a police officer you would not believe the amount of grief we get. We get attacked, followed home from work, spat at, abused, assaulted. You get idiots not getting out of the way when you are blue lighting it to a job, you get people who will run or drive in front of you on purpose. You get complaints designed just to get you into trouble or sacked. You've got a command structure that won't support you and a government making each day at your job easier for the criminals to get away with stuff. Oh and crap money, but still we go into work each day expecting the above and worse since death sits on our shoulders or hides behind the mountain of paper work we have to get through. Still it's great, Saturday late shift tomorrow, loads of fun:))) SubTig Mate, if it helps at all you would be amazed at how much respect the average law abiding Joe Bloggs has for you guys. I couldn't do it, I'd be sacked for over stepping the mark on the first night I was out and about! As far as I'm concerned you could taser, or use CS spray the second someone doesn't co-operate with you, let alone as a last resort. Have you ever read Coppersblog? A great slice of life for a real PC. This guy and people like yourself are who the government should be consulting on future policy. Oh, and me of course!
SubTig	Posted - 2007.07.27 23:14:00 - [60] Originally by: Captain Hudson they need to give u guys guns and just let u shoot anyone that gets in the way. seriously It goes so way beyond this..... The problems we face as communities are soo deep rooted it may never change for the better and only get worse. There is a total lack of respect and discipline. But where does that start, at home, in schools. No one has the right answer and there are far to many do-gooders fighting against what most people would consider a normal society. Drugs play a massive part of this. I know this is going to get flamed with the cannabis is harmless argument, and you know what I used to be there saying the same thing many years ago. But I have seen to many young men who have serious mental illness which has been caused through smoking cannabis. I think alot of the problem is people have their eyes closed or are naive about real life and what really goes on. I think back to some of the things I have seen or dealt with and think how can someone reach such a low point in their lives that makes then do the things they do or make the vulnerable to what happens to them and I think that most emergency works would probably agree with that statement. It's worth spending a shift with the police or paramedics on a ride along scheme to actually see what goes on and how people conduct their lives. SubTig

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