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Hectaire Glade Forum Jockey	Posted - 2007.07.31 07:25:00 - [31] If you have cash to burn then a passive tanked Rattlesnake with DG Cruise and atleast 1 of the 3 BCS being DG as well, 2 DG invuln + 2 pith passive hardners Tanks forever, you don't have to feck around changing hardners for rat specific tanking, chuck on a drone link aug and a tractor in your 2 other highs Its faster over time than a CNR, looks a hell of a lot sexier and is near indestructable.
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.07.31 07:33:00 - [32] Originally by: Hectaire Glade If you have cash to burn then a passive tanked Rattlesnake with DG Cruise and atleast 1 of the 3 BCS being DG as well, 2 DG invuln + 2 pith passive hardners Tanks forever, you don't have to feck around changing hardners for rat specific tanking, chuck on a drone link aug and a tractor in your 2 other highs Its faster over time than a CNR, looks a hell of a lot sexier and is near indestructable. It is cooler looking indeed but not faster than CNR over time. Or well .. depends on definition but I can't imagine where in lev 4 missions will Rattlesnake run faster than CNR with reasonable fittings (meaning at least 2 BCU's). My CNR can tank all level 4 missions without warpouts with just T2 tank and cap injector (with room to spare for 1 target painter also). In both torpedo and cruise missile setups. I have even room for 3 BCU's in torp setup and 4 BCU's in cruise missile setup. Passive hardeners are not really good idea on battleship. Even Pith ones. Altho if efficency is not important all other ships besides Raven/Rattlesnake or CNR work fine also.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.31 19:42:00 - [33] Originally by: Xaen lol @ crappy dps and crappy tanks the raven & CNR make Raven < CNR < Drake < Dominix My domi runs it's LAR II indefinitely and pumps out 506 dps (raw). That's with 3 relatively cheap rigs (Aux nano pumps). Typical Raven fit takes three of the most expensive rigs, and does about 280 raw dps. And it sucks hard vs cruisers. Mediocre fitted Raven = 300M Dominix with the best t2/named of everything = 150M and almost double the dps. Just check out of the forum posts about the Vengeance mission. Refits, MWDs, Webs, Nos, manuvering him into the station, following him out to respawn point then slowboating back, bringing multiple friends, keeping specially fit battleships in corp hangar. With my domi, I just sicced my drones on him, lit up my 350mms and watched him die. Dude, get a clue. My cnr has a dps of around 670 now, with cruise missiles. In addition to that there are 5 medium drones (no clue whats their dps). When i had some really expensive stuff the dps was beyond 700. A raven with only t2 stuff should get somewhere around 500 + drones. If you don't do enough damage on cruisers, get 2 rigor rigs and a precision implant and train your skills and you will deal full damage. And your rachen tactics: i can only laugh on that. When i see Rachen i activate my 7 cruise launcers and rachen is dead even before they launched half of their payload. I think your numbers are from t1 fitting with 0 damagemods and skills at 1.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2007.07.31 20:14:00 - [34] Edited by: FT Diomedes on 31/07/2007 20:16:08 Nevermind that the thread(s) he linked to about Rachen was quite old - or that most people in those threads had trouble with that NPC. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
J Valkor Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.07.31 20:22:00 - [35] Edited by: J Valkor on 31/07/2007 20:23:06 My current PVE Nighthawk dishes out 407 DPS. If I need to I can switch to faction heavies and up that to around 470. Beyond merely Cruisers, that is almost full damage to frigates. The one problem is that you have to learn to count shots. My skills aren't even maxed yet and I only have the 3% ROF implant.
Caldorous Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.31 23:20:00 - [36] Originally by: J Valkor Edited by: J Valkor on 31/07/2007 20:23:06 My current PVE Nighthawk dishes out 407 DPS. If I need to I can switch to faction heavies and up that to around 470. Beyond merely Cruisers, that is almost full damage to frigates. The one problem is that you have to learn to count shots. My skills aren't even maxed yet and I only have the 3% ROF implant. Counting shots its really really boring -----------------------------
Moira Pricecheck	Posted - 2007.07.31 23:32:00 - [37] Edited by: Moira Pricecheck on 31/07/2007 23:35:19 Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Toria Nynys It's possible to do all L4s decently fast in a CNR or even a normal Raven with cruises and t2 fittings. You can pull off a rigged, fitted Raven for under 300M. You won't set any records, but it'll still be faster than any other set-up on average. 500-700SP in missiles is enough to get started. Got my vote for a 3 BCU setup as well. With my skills a cruise Raven seems to work better than a torp one, but everyone has their preferences. lol @ crappy dps and crappy tanks the raven & CNR make Raven < CNR < Drake < Dominix My domi runs it's LAR II indefinitely and pumps out 506 dps (raw). That's with 3 relatively cheap rigs (Aux nano pumps). Typical Raven fit takes three of the most expensive rigs, and does about 280 raw dps. And it sucks hard vs cruisers. Mediocre fitted Raven = 300M Dominix with the best t2/named of everything = 150M and almost double the dps. Just check out of the forum posts about the Vengeance mission. Raven users have a HELL of a time killing Rachen. Refits, MWDs, Webs, Nos, manuvering him into the station, following him out to respawn point then slowboating back, bringing multiple friends, keeping specially fit battleships in corp hangar. With my domi, I just sicced my drones on him, lit up my 350mms and watched him die. My CNR throws 700 dps and runs it's gist x-type large shield booster indefinitely. Edit 825 dps if you add 5x Hammerhead IIs
Rystin Timbal	Posted - 2007.08.01 00:43:00 - [38] Edited by: Rystin Timbal on 01/08/2007 00:45:06 Basic, well tanked raven can do the job. But it seems people are argueing that gallente have the market on PvE now, too. Ruddy easymodes. They need to be nerfed or the rest of the universe brought up to speed. And that's just outright slander about the CNR dps. On may standard raven, with no drones, my skills and equipment I get 380 DPS raw. And that's without implants. And it's cheap. With drones, it easily puts it into the 450-500 area. And as for cruisers... get a TP and Guided missile precision. No problems. Projections for a CNR make me hit the 430 DPS/no drones area. But that is with cruise missiles 5. Such things can put you up to over 480 damage per missile. The shield tank can't be beat if you know your target.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.01 13:46:00 - [39] Originally by: FT Diomedes Edited by: FT Diomedes on 31/07/2007 20:47:04 Nevermind that the threads he linked to about Rachen were quite old - or that most people in those threads had trouble with that NPC. Rachen hasn't changed and people still ***** about it. I linked to specific posts, not threads in general. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets don't.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.01 13:52:00 - [40] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Dude, get a clue. My cnr has a dps of around 670 now, with cruise missiles. In addition to that there are 5 medium drones (no clue whats their dps). When i had some really expensive stuff the dps was beyond 700. A raven with only t2 stuff should get somewhere around 500 + drones. If you don't do enough damage on cruisers, get 2 rigor rigs and a precision implant and train your skills and you will deal full damage. And your rachen tactics: i can only laugh on that. When i see Rachen i activate my 7 cruise launcers and rachen is dead even before they launched half of their payload. I think your numbers are from t1 fitting with 0 damagemods and skills at 1. I found a clue for you: Raven Navy Issue (Caldari BS IV, Cruise V, Cruise Specialization IV) Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Turret Slot Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Heat Dissipation Field II X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I 'Copasetic' I Particle Field Acceleration Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Rigs : Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II 13591 shield, 20.2/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/81/85/59 11953 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/44/25/10 7001.68770691109 cap, +35.95/s, -104.0/s 138.0 m/s 333.2 DPS vs Rachen 423.9 DPS vs. Rachen w/Drones 195.0 DPS vs. Pithum Mortifier (Cruiser) 302.8 DPS vs. Pithum Mortifier (Cruiser) w/Drones 118.0 DPS vs. Angel Viper (Interceptor) w/Drones ~760M ISK I even left the drone skills I used on the dominx for the raven calculations, so it got huge bonuses to drone damage. Dominix (Gallente BS IV, Gallente Drone Specialization IV, Heavy Drone Op V) Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I 350mm Railgun II [80xAntimatter Charge L] 350mm Railgun II [80xAntimatter Charge L] 350mm Railgun II [80xAntimatter Charge L] 350mm Railgun II [80xAntimatter Charge L] Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Damage Control II N-Type Explosive Hardener I N-Type Kinetic Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I Large Armor Repairer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Rigs : Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II 6015 shield, 7.52/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/47/64 12493 armor, E/T/K/Ex=71/76/76/67 6000.0 cap, +51.56/s, -49.32/s 115.0 m/s 369.7 DPS vs. Rachen w/Drones 426.7 DPS vs. Pithum Mortifier w/Drones 458.4 DPS vs. Angel Viper w/Drones ~161M ISK ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets don't.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.01 13:55:00 - [41] Originally by: Moira Pricecheck My CNR throws 700 dps and runs it's gist x-type large shield booster indefinitely. Edit 825 dps if you add 5x Hammerhead IIs lmao, that's a 1.1BN ship Gonna suck when you lose it. I could build a fleet of seven fitted dominixes for that price. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets don't.
Huldradans Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.08.01 15:02:00 - [42] Nice comparison, Xaen, thanks! --- FREE TS, FORUM AND KILLBOARD HOSTING: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=567568
Markus Aurelian	Posted - 2007.08.01 15:26:00 - [43] Originally by: Xaen Edited by: Xaen on 01/08/2007 15:07:15 Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Dude, get a clue. My cnr has a dps of around 670 now, with cruise missiles. In addition to that there are 5 medium drones (no clue whats their dps). When i had some really expensive stuff the dps was beyond 700. A raven with only t2 stuff should get somewhere around 500 + drones. If you don't do enough damage on cruisers, get 2 rigor rigs and a precision implant and train your skills and you will deal full damage. And your rachen tactics: i can only laugh on that. When i see Rachen i activate my 7 cruise launcers and rachen is dead even before they launched half of their payload. I think your numbers are from t1 fitting with 0 damagemods and skills at 1. I found a clue for you: Raven Navy Issue (Caldari BS IV, Cruise V, Cruise Specialization IV) Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Cruise Missile Launcher II [27xWrath Cruise Missile] Turret Slot Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Heat Dissipation Field II X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I 'Copasetic' I Particle Field Acceleration Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Rigs : Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hammerhead II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II Hobgoblin II 13591 shield, 20.2/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/81/85/59 11953 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/44/25/10 7001.68770691109 cap, +35.95/s, -104.0/s 138.0 m/s 333.2 DPS vs Rachen (not counting his 3 defender launchers, realistically around 266.4) 423.9 DPS vs. Rachen w/Drones (not counting his 3 defender launchers, realistically around 356.4 (30% lost due to defenders)) 195.0 DPS vs. Pithum Mortifier (Cruiser) 302.8 DPS vs. Pithum Mortifier (Cruiser) w/Drones 118.0 DPS vs. Angel Viper (Interceptor) w/Drones ~760M ISK I even left the drone skills I used on the dominx for the raven calculations, so it got huge bonuses to drone damage. Dominix (Gallente BS IV, Gallente Drone Specialization IV, Heavy Drone Op V) Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I 350mm Railgun II [80xAntimatter Charge L] 350mm Railgun II [80xAntimatter Charge L] 350mm Railgun II [80xAntimatter Charge L] 350mm Railgun II [80xAntimatter Charge L] Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Damage Control II N-Type Explosive Hardener I N-Type Kinetic Hardener I N-Type Thermic Hardener I Large Armor Repairer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Rigs : Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \ Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II 6015 shield, 7.52/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/47/64 12493 armor, E/T/K/Ex=71/76/76/67 6000.0 cap, +51.56/s, -49.32/s 115.0 m/s 369.7 DPS vs. Rachen w/Drones 426.7 DPS vs. Pithum Mortifier w/Drones 458.4 DPS vs. Angel Viper w/Drones ~161M ISK theres other skills that affect missile damage besides cruise and cruise spec. i dont know if you took those into account on your calculations, but i had different numbers when i set up my raven. i also drop one of the secondary damage hardeners for a target painter and that helps vs the smaller ships (i use torps so its a must for me). Meatwad FTW
Slayton Ford Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:36:00 - [44] Edited by: Slayton Ford on 01/08/2007 17:36:20 I just did Vengeance last night in a Cruise fitted raven and had no problem with Rachen. My Cruise skills are bare minimum at lvl3, BS lvl3, Guided Missle Precision 2. It took probably one reload spamming missles at him, but he still died quickly. The one thing that helps was running a Drone Link Aug so I could send in the Vespa IIs. I also did AE 6th room last night for the first time with only one warp out. In this case (and with angels in general), i've noticed cruises work better then torps due to angel BSs having a smaller sig radius. For the AE bonus room, cruises can pop the Thermal Cruise launchers much faster (3 volleys each for me) which is the majority of the incoming dps for this room. Next time I'll be able to do it w/o a warp out. One thing I do equip that most people wont is a Damage Control II. It already saved my normal raven on a Sansha mission when I had effects turned off and didnt see I was scrambled until I was in trouble (warped out at 50% structure). When flying a ship worth 1b+, a little extra protection is worth the slightly longer time to finish the mission (ie, 3 BCU IIs instead of 4). Also, IIRC defenders take two shots to take out a Torp, not one. --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer...
Rossarian	Posted - 2007.08.01 17:52:00 - [45] Originally by: Xaen Domi BS Man you are so wrong in your assessment that it almost hurts me. For one, torps are a LOT better than you make them out, and Drones as main damage are a lot worse. Once you know how many torps will kill a ship, the travel time (which is not all that long anyway with good skills and maybe a velo rig or two) becomes insignificant because it really matters only on the first ship you shoot. And defenders are a non-issue. While drones constantly have to travel from ship to ship, which can take quite a bit of time with heavies, and you also have to scoop them a lot in wave missions. Also, 7 torps often enough instapop cruisers and always one-volley battlecruisers, which is a HUGE bonus on top of being faster against battleships. And lastly, your example using therm drones against Rachen of all things really tells me just how much clue about proper missioning you have. Yes a Domi is probably the best L3 runner (with sentries though), and might beat a low end cruise Raven, but thats about it. It is not really very upgradeable when you throw more money at it, while the Raven/CNR is one of the ships that benefits most from expensive stuff. And really, the performance of the ship is MUCH more important than the investment to high end runners, unless it gets excessive (> 3 bil on one fit). At least for me, the main point of mission running is to get better fittings so I can better mission-run. Occasionally I throw a hunnerd mil at some cheapass PvP ships, but 90% of my assets are in various high end PvE ships. What other point is there to all that money? I am fairly sure that for almost everyone with a mission runner mindset, investing in PvE is much preferable to squandering in PvP.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Slayton Ford Also, IIRC defenders take two shots to take out a Torp, not one. I thought it was three? Doesn't really matter to me because I'm not a torp fan. To slow, to crappy vs. small targets. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets don't.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:15:00 - [47] Originally by: Rossarian Originally by: Xaen Domi BS And lastly, your example using therm drones against Rachen of all things really tells me just how much clue about proper missioning you have. You ridiculing people for using thermal drones vs. Rachen tells me just how much clue about drones you have. Generally the Gallante drones will far out damage all the rest despite resistances. Do some quickfit checks against some Sansha, Gurista or Angel NPCs. The Gallente drone damage multiplier is ridiculous. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets don't.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2007.08.01 18:29:00 - [48] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Rossarian Originally by: Xaen Domi BS And lastly, your example using therm drones against Rachen of all things really tells me just how much clue about proper missioning you have. You ridiculing people for using thermal drones vs. Rachen tells me just how much clue about drones you have. Generally the Gallante drones will far out damage all the rest despite resistances. Do some quickfit checks against some Sansha, Gurista or Angel NPCs. The Gallente drone damage multiplier is ridiculous. He is definitely right about the thermal drones being superior. This has been my experience throughout my limited Eve career. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Remedios Sonrisa Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.08.01 19:31:00 - [49] I love my Domi, though I know a raven will run missions faster. But sentries take the flight time of drones out of the equation. It makes missions faster, not as fast as a raven (much less a CNR), but makes the Domi in the top five BSes for L4s. As far as value, I think the Domi is at the top. Although I prefer thermal drones for PVE despite their sloth-like movements, kinetic drones are the way to go vs. Rachen (the resists of his raven's shields are 50/80 kin/thm). ....
Starlit Serenade	Posted - 2007.08.01 19:59:00 - [50] Maybe it's not the fastest, but I use a Domi with a sustainable dual LARII tank. Tank the whole room, and let my Orge IIs have fun. It's certainly faster for me in that I can do other things while playing EvE so I have more time to play. It evens out and more. Of course, the fastest way to run missions is to tank the full room with my Domi and let my corpmate rip everything apart with a CNR.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.01 20:22:00 - [51] I'm working on a plan to use my alt in an Exquror to triple-rep my domi. Then I'll just be able to aggro the room, let slip the drones and play the market. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets don't.
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2007.08.01 20:34:00 - [52] Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 01/08/2007 20:41:01 Originally by: FT Diomedes Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Rossarian Originally by: Xaen Domi BS And lastly, your example using therm drones against Rachen of all things really tells me just how much clue about proper missioning you have. You ridiculing people for using thermal drones vs. Rachen tells me just how much clue about drones you have. Generally the Gallante drones will far out damage all the rest despite resistances. Do some quickfit checks against some Sansha, Gurista or Angel NPCs. The Gallente drone damage multiplier is ridiculous. He is definitely right about the thermal drones being superior. This has been my experience throughout my limited Eve career. Yes, thermal drones are better damage in GENERAL. But missions are not about generalizations, but about fitting the best things for the job. And Rachen has 50% kin resist and 80% therm on her pretty hefty shieldtank, meaning Vespas do more than twice the damage of Hammerheads against her shields, which is the vast majority of her effective hitpoints. (The average dps of quickfit is a crappy measure anyway, since it totally ignores tanking and thus has way too high emphasis on structure). Vespas actually do more damage than HHs even against shields and armor of the better standard Guristas BS and elite ships. It is Zerks and especially Praetors that are very inferior to them, which is why they are far better than racial drones against Sansha and Blood, where the racial weakness is hit by the worst drone. But Guristas are hit by the second best drone in their weakest resistance, and that is slightly better than the best drone on their 2nd worst resistance. So yes I know my stuff about drones, but you DON'T know your stuff about mission rats :P There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Qui Shon	Posted - 2007.08.02 06:11:00 - [53] Originally by: Rossarian And defenders are a non-issue. You mean they don't lower your dps? How? Or just that they don't lower it enough to matter?
Leandro Salazar The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2007.08.02 08:31:00 - [54] Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Rossarian And defenders are a non-issue. You mean they don't lower your dps? How? Or just that they don't lower it enough to matter? The latter. They kill maybe one torp every other volley, if even that. There are plenty of explosions in my torp cloud, but when you look at the log (or pay close attention to the damage you do) most of the time all seven connect regardless of all the fireworks. There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Scorpion There is no 'e' in Caldari There is no makeup in rogue drones
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.02 13:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Leandro Salazar Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Rossarian And defenders are a non-issue. You mean they don't lower your dps? How? Or just that they don't lower it enough to matter? The latter. They kill maybe one torp every other volley, if even that. There are plenty of explosions in my torp cloud, but when you look at the log (or pay close attention to the damage you do) most of the time all seven connect regardless of all the fireworks. That's one advantage of torps over cruise. Last time I used torps, it took 3 defenders to take one out. Almost no NPC launches that many in time. Cruise missiles only take one defender, and if you fire from extreme range they can easily shoot down 1-3 every volley. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets don't.
Revenant Penance	Posted - 2007.08.02 23:24:00 - [56] 700 dps + drones on a beam-absolution here. 2 of these (me and my corpy) did Pirate Invasion level 4 in 11 minutes. I'd be surprised if any cruise-raven or CNR is faster. Perhaps a torp CNR with 2 painters would shave a little off, not sure. Rev
Carniflex Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.08.03 06:57:00 - [57] Originally by: Revenant Penance 700 dps + drones on a beam-absolution here. 2 of these (me and my corpy) did Pirate Invasion level 4 in 11 minutes. I'd be surprised if any cruise-raven or CNR is faster. Perhaps a torp CNR with 2 painters would shave a little off, not sure. Rev You are right. Absolution is faster than CNR in some missions. Pirate invasion is one of them. To be faster than CNR in Absolution you need relatively BS heavy missions where your opponents have weakness for EM/Thermal damage. At the end of day it's all about effective dps. Effective meaning amount of damage that actually gets in over your opponent tanking ability and resists. Being able to tank mission more than you need to tank to do it without warpouts does not make them go any faster.
Don Mavro	Posted - 2007.08.04 04:25:00 - [58] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Toria Nynys It's possible to do all L4s decently fast in a CNR or even a normal Raven with cruises and t2 fittings. You can pull off a rigged, fitted Raven for under 300M. You won't set any records, but it'll still be faster than any other set-up on average. 500-700SP in missiles is enough to get started. Got my vote for a 3 BCU setup as well. With my skills a cruise Raven seems to work better than a torp one, but everyone has their preferences. lol @ crappy dps and crappy tanks the raven & CNR make Raven < CNR < Drake < Dominix My domi runs it's LAR II indefinitely and pumps out 506 dps (raw). That's with 3 relatively cheap rigs (Aux nano pumps). Typical Raven fit takes three of the most expensive rigs, and does about 280 raw dps. And it sucks hard vs cruisers. Mediocre fitted Raven = 300M Dominix with the best t2/named of everything = 150M and almost double the dps. Just check out of the forum posts about the Vengeance mission. Raven users have a HELL of a time killing Rachen. Refits, MWDs, Webs, Nos, manuvering him into the station, following him out to respawn point then slowboating back, bringing multiple friends, keeping specially fit battleships in corp hangar. With my domi, I just sicced my drones on him, lit up my 350mms and watched him die. lol @ poster... raven with t2 cruises & t2 med drones produces 584 raw dps. without drones 440. Cruisers popped in 3 volleys usualy. And you don't need to wait while your stupid drones rich target or agro all room for you. And Vengeance is not a problem then you use t2 cruises with good skills.
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.08.04 05:53:00 - [59] Heh,, State Issue Raven Anyone? That'd be the wtfpwnmobile of missions,,,, sigh,,, @ The OP tho,, if you need money to maintain your GTC payments, try taking a month or two out to train up your alts for industry,, AFK income solves all your GTC woes :) Improve Market Competition!

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