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Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:42:00 - [1] There is something VERY WRONG with this pic ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Faekurias Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:46:00 - [2] No it isn't. It's called "The Death Of The NOS , Long Live The NOS!" also, "Hi, I'm the new guy, Energy Neut...wazap?!". Nubcaek :D
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:50:00 - [3] yeah just do what the new domi threads are ugesting and doa mroe gang related thing with NOS and remote armor reps with a mostly passive plate tank.
Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Dr Fighter yeah just do what the new domi threads are ugesting and doa mroe gang related thing with NOS and remote armor reps with a mostly passive plate tank. I didn't spend 8billion isk on a bhaalgorn to heal other people. btw, just for the record, I used twice as many cap 800s than he did, and his cap was always high enough to rep my damage and fire all 8 guns at me even though my cap was at like 2% the entire fight. This is an epic fail ccp. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
James Grand Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:56:00 - [5] Originally by: Natsuki Originally by: Dr Fighter yeah just do what the new domi threads are ugesting and doa mroe gang related thing with NOS and remote armor reps with a mostly passive plate tank. I didn't spend 8billion isk on a bhaalgorn to heal other people. btw, just for the record, I used twice as many cap 800s than he did, and his cap was always high enough to rep my damage and fire all 8 guns at me even though my cap was at like 2% the entire fight. This is an epic fail ccp. If his cap was always high and yours was at 2%, then the nos changes shouldn't have affected anything. It only comes into play when you have more cap than he does. -------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in my posts are entirely my own.
PhantomVyper Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:57:00 - [6] Originally by: Natsuki Originally by: Dr Fighter yeah just do what the new domi threads are ugesting and doa mroe gang related thing with NOS and remote armor reps with a mostly passive plate tank. I didn't spend 8billion isk on a bhaalgorn to heal other people. btw, just for the record, I used twice as many cap 800s than he did, and his cap was always high enough to rep my damage and fire all 8 guns at me even though my cap was at like 2% the entire fight. This is an epic fail ccp. Maybe you where misstiming the cap charges and using them just when the nos was cycling (thus preventing the nos from actually draining anything)? Posting a static picture of a fight really doesn't help very much in analising what happened / wen't wrong...
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Natsuki Originally by: Dr Fighter yeah just do what the new domi threads are ugesting and doa mroe gang related thing with NOS and remote armor reps with a mostly passive plate tank. I didn't spend 8billion isk on a bhaalgorn to heal other people. btw, just for the record, I used twice as many cap 800s than he did, and his cap was always high enough to rep my damage and fire all 8 guns at me even though my cap was at like 2% the entire fight. This is an epic fail ccp. your bob tho so your rich, you can take it. alot of people will say adapt or die etc, but ccp will prolly hav to change the bonuses on the bhaal and the other blood ships. This does seem like a push for more gang related tanking etc if you want to nke cap which will lead to more longer and mroe interesting fights. I know the feeling of ccp whipping the mat from beneath you, the day i got 1400ms on my tempest ccp introduced tracking - oh the pain lol
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:58:00 - [8] Looks fine to me. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
me bored	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:58:00 - [9] lol owned
Hugh Ruka Caldari Free Traders	Posted - 2007.07.31 15:59:00 - [10] Originally by: Natsuki Originally by: Dr Fighter yeah just do what the new domi threads are ugesting and doa mroe gang related thing with NOS and remote armor reps with a mostly passive plate tank. I didn't spend 8billion isk on a bhaalgorn to heal other people. btw, just for the record, I used twice as many cap 800s than he did, and his cap was always high enough to rep my damage and fire all 8 guns at me even though my cap was at like 2% the entire fight. This is an epic fail ccp. if he had enough cap as you say, then you should be able to nos him. petition/bug report ? Originally by: JP Beauregard The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls....
Securion Wolfheart Caldari Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:00:00 - [11] He have a bigger ship than you, twice the amount of guns, and you still expect to win just because you fit some Nosses? That kinda proves the Nosses have been insanely overpowered, dont you think? Good work CCP. More pew pew and less nossing. -----====----- Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done.
Deva Blackfire Citadel of dark arts	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:00:00 - [12] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 31/07/2007 16:01:56 Looks fine, you just have no clue how to counter nosf-nerf. Quote: btw, just for the record, I used twice as many cap 800s than he did, and his cap was always high enough to rep my damage and fire all 8 guns at me even though my cap was at like 2% the entire fight. You know that abaddon can have sustainable guns + rep i hope? And still it has place to mount injector...
Somerled MacDhommal Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:01:00 - [13] wow
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:03:00 - [14] Originally by: Natsuki There is something VERY WRONG with this pic Your such a noob. 3 Targets there all with decent cap. So why are you nossing only one? Oh right you think that nos is for breaking tanks, nope, thats neuts. Nos is for sustaining tanks. You should have nossed the other 2 targets, neuted your target, used lasers, and kept your Capacitor at a 30% to 40% level. NOS dont work the same as they used to, you cannot use them in the same way. ============================================
Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:05:00 - [15] Originally by: N1fty Originally by: Natsuki There is something VERY WRONG with this pic Your such a noob. 3 Targets there all with decent cap. So why are you nossing only one? Oh right you think that nos is for breaking tanks, nope, thats neuts. Nos is for sustaining tanks. You should have nossed the other 2 targets, neuted your target, used lasers, and kept your Capacitor at a 30% to 40% level. NOS dont work the same as they used to, you cannot use them in the same way. It's on sisi, in a bf, 1v1 situation. learn more about eve before talking. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:06:00 - [16] post more evidence so people dont hav to specualte, noob.
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:08:00 - [17] Originally by: Securion Wolfheart He have a bigger ship than you, twice the amount of guns, and you still expect to win just because you fit some Nosses? That kinda proves the Nosses have been insanely overpowered, dont you think? Good work CCP. More pew pew and less nossing. Well, the Abaddon is hardly "a bigger ship". That's a Bhaalgorn, which is a battleship. More importantly that's a few billions worth of stuff on the 1bn-2bn ISK ship and it's being screwed by a normal BS. The Bhaalgorn is a ship that relies on NOS. It's bonuses are to NOS (and webs). It needs to have it's bonuses adjusted or it is, quite frankly, going to become totally and utterly useless. I like the NOS changes overall, but I have to insist that NOS-based ships (proper ones, not nosdomis and that kind of stuff) are adjusted so they still work. Either with NOS, or with something else. --- ---
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Natsuki Originally by: N1fty Originally by: Natsuki There is something VERY WRONG with this pic Your such a noob. 3 Targets there all with decent cap. So why are you nossing only one? Oh right you think that nos is for breaking tanks, nope, thats neuts. Nos is for sustaining tanks. You should have nossed the other 2 targets, neuted your target, used lasers, and kept your Capacitor at a 30% to 40% level. NOS dont work the same as they used to, you cannot use them in the same way. It's on sisi, in a bf, 1v1 situation. learn more about eve before talking. I assumed it was FFA SISI, you didnt mention it was a 1v1. My argument still stands, NEUT's to break tanks, NOS to sustain. CAP booster could have been used to feed a NEUT. I will grant you that the Bloodraider faction ships could now do with a bonus to NEUT's as well as NOS. Also, you dont seem to have launched your drones in that pic, what type did you use? ============================================
Vladimir Tinakin Caldari Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:11:00 - [19] ^^what they said. Plus the ISK argument is null. You're not the first, nor the last, to lose billions due to patch changes by CCP. Suck it up, adapt, etc. I spent billions on interfaces, the week before CCP cranked up the drop rate to "Included in your ibis is a gratuity Interface BPC" and the price plummeted to 1/10th what it was. Was I upset? Yeah. Did I get over it? Yup. ----------------------------------------------- Adm Vladimir Tinakin CFO Hadean Drive Yards
Securion Wolfheart Caldari Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Asestorian Originally by: Securion Wolfheart He have a bigger ship than you, twice the amount of guns, and you still expect to win just because you fit some Nosses? That kinda proves the Nosses have been insanely overpowered, dont you think? Good work CCP. More pew pew and less nossing. Well, the Abaddon is hardly "a bigger ship". That's a Bhaalgorn, which is a battleship. More importantly that's a few billions worth of stuff on the 1bn-2bn ISK ship and it's being screwed by a normal BS. The Bhaalgorn is a ship that relies on NOS. It's bonuses are to NOS (and webs). It needs to have it's bonuses adjusted or it is, quite frankly, going to become totally and utterly useless. I like the NOS changes overall, but I have to insist that NOS-based ships (proper ones, not nosdomis and that kind of stuff) are adjusted so they still work. Either with NOS, or with something else. Ah ok my bad then. And thats right; ships with NOS bonuses need to have new bonuses ofcourse. Other than that, the NOS nerf is one of the best things ive ever heard of. Except for the warp to 0 thingy... -----====----- Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done.
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:13:00 - [21] But interfaces aren't useless. As it stands this ship will be. --- ---
Judas Lonestar Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:14:00 - [22] Jesus, thats like a Christmas list of "I want" equipment there! Otherwise, the only thing I see wrong is your using too many webs on him.
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Endgame.	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:15:00 - [23] http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Sisi/EveSisiSacNew1.jpg SPEED MALLER(ISH!) ! My Personal Killboard
Deva Blackfire Citadel of dark arts	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Chode Rizoum http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Sisi/EveSisiSacNew1.jpg SPEED MALLER(ISH!) ! You forgot to add: full grade snake + low missile range. Operating within 15km of enemy is quite risky nowadays...
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:17:00 - [25] Originally by: Chode Rizoum http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Sisi/EveSisiSacNew1.jpg SPEED MALLER(ISH!) ! same pilot that the bhaal pic was taken with, seems somone get hit by one nerf and buff in another.
N1fty Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:18:00 - [26] Edited by: N1fty on 31/07/2007 16:23:19 Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Chode Rizoum http://www.siegedom.com/Files/Eve/Sisi/EveSisiSacNew1.jpg SPEED MALLER(ISH!) ! You forgot to add: full grade snake + low missile range. Operating within 15km of enemy is quite risky nowadays... Yeah speedtanking when you have to orbit inside of 15k to fire is a little risky... ============================================
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:20:00 - [27] Kayo and his alts don't just fly Amarr. But the point of this thread isn't Khanid Mk. II. It's about the Bhaalgorn, which is looking like it's going to become another useless faction BS. Surprisingly, the only other faction BS that could be considered near useless is the Nightmare, which is the other Amarr-based pirate faction BS. Wonderful. --- ---
Riho Gallente Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:34:00 - [28] Originally by: Natsuki Originally by: Dr Fighter yeah just do what the new domi threads are ugesting and doa mroe gang related thing with NOS and remote armor reps with a mostly passive plate tank. I didn't spend 8billion isk on a bhaalgorn to heal other people. btw, just for the record, I used twice as many cap 800s than he did, and his cap was always high enough to rep my damage and fire all 8 guns at me even though my cap was at like 2% the entire fight. This is an epic fail ccp. LOL you spent 8bil and now think your ship shouldnt get nerfed..... gj CCP tbh :) use neuts :) (on a bhaalgorn its kinda sucky tho.. mybe tehy should revise the bonus abit and make it apply to neuts :) ) --------------------------------------- Sig killed by MODs.... reworking it Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- YARRRR, sig hijack! -HornFrog -----------------
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:35:00 - [29] Edited by: Kyozoku on 31/07/2007 16:40:37 Justice for abaddons everywhere. \o/
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.31 16:44:00 - [30] The ONLy think that must be adjusted is baalghor receive bonus to neut as well ( as the curse receives) . That way you would simply change 1 NOS-> neut. All solved. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough

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