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Father Luzarius
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Posted - 2007.08.02 12:34:00 -
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Do people roll caldari because they start with 3 charisma and you can leave it at 3 thus having more points for perception & intelligence?
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Manic Smile
Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.08.02 12:39:00 -
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yes, the informed ones
I've heard many initially rolled Caldari because they were the first option and decent looking/decent background.
*courtesy of www.flickr.com
I hate the jpeg format.
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Bimjo
Caldari SKULLDOGS
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Posted - 2007.08.02 13:09:00 -
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you know what, it's not too hard to be dual nationality in EVE you don't need 20 Mill SP in gunnery or missiles to make a difference I have 10 mill in each and am caldari/amarr I snipe and do corp duties in my amarr and mission running in my caldari ships
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Liaya
Vindictive Behavior
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:05:00 -
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I had no idea what the stats actually meant when I made this char, was pleasantly surprised when it turned out I had made a good choice.
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EntroX
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2007.08.02 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Manic Smile
I've heard many initially rolled Caldari because they were the first option and decent looking/decent background.
Sounds like me 
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Jazz Lamour
Caldari Jazz Empire Support Services
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Posted - 2007.08.02 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jazz Lamour on 02/08/2007 15:30:56 I went Achura for the huge intelligence attribute possible. got 33 intelligence and 25 memory now! perfect for a researcher. rank 8 science skill from lvl 4 to 5 in around 25 days. thats at 2,730 Sp's per hour! awesome. But she is an alt. would be pretty naff as an all rounder or a main. |

Blue Wraith
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Posted - 2007.08.02 16:27:00 -
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I was new to Eve and didn't know the impact of the attributes when I rolled Caldari 2 years ago. The back story on Caldari seemed to suit me best. I made the mistake of picking a career path (which is no longer an option) instead of doing custom (which is now the only option). My highest base attributes are the least useful two (Charisma and Willpower). But I'm too old to start over, and my other stats aren't that bad (23s with +5 implants).
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Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education
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Posted - 2007.08.02 17:13:00 -
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INTAKI 4TW!!! actually not. i had no idea when i started. could have had around 5-6m more sp if i had started with sebiestor 
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General Minos
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Posted - 2007.08.02 17:26:00 -
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The best character for a new player interested in PVP is achura because of the 3 charisma. It is also easiest to rat/mission as a Caldari which is a bonus as well.
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.02 17:33:00 -
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The best character is one with a name and portrait that you can stomach looking at for the next decade.
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Recnac
Shades Corp The OSS
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Posted - 2007.08.02 17:38:00 -
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at the end of the day it doesnt matter, all races can fly other race ships, the only diffence will be time taken to train skills
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Mesper
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Posted - 2007.08.02 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
The best character is one with a name and portrait that you can stomach looking at for the next decade.
On that note...is there a salon somewhere out there I can visit to get, ah, touched up? 
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ZeeWolf
Asguard Security Service Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.08.02 19:15:00 -
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I rolled Caldari 3 years ago because I had no clue what i was doing. On hindsight I wish I had gone with Amarr, even with all the nerfs etc.
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DJ P
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Posted - 2007.08.02 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: ZeeWolf I rolled Caldari 3 years ago because I had no clue what i was doing. On hindsight I wish I had gone with Amarr, even with all the nerfs etc.
Yeah :)
In the mean time, I made this Deteis not because of CHA etc but because was the only one who got Trade (for Black Marketing skill), and giving some usefull bonus (INT/PER if remember correctly). All the others gave full CHA :)
Realy wish I was an Amarr but......
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Soren
PAK
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Posted - 2007.08.02 20:56:00 -
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I went Caldari off the back story 
worked out well ☠-->-->--
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Alexi Stokov
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.02 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mesper
Originally by: Cipher7
The best character is one with a name and portrait that you can stomach looking at for the next decade.
On that note...is there a salon somewhere out there I can visit to get, ah, touched up? 
I do believe at the ol EVE Bar and Grill you can pay a flat $10 and they allow you to change your portrait.
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.03 05:21:00 -
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thats why I rolled my pvp alt, which is only trained in gallente ships. Join The Fight With Promo Today |

Vaylor Natrin
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Posted - 2007.08.03 08:56:00 -
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Went with Achura on my main because my friends who had been playing longer informed me they had the best starting attribs, so I went with the flow.
However as he was the ugliest thing to grace EVE I created this lovely alt who will be my PvPer, while my main runs missions to fund her.
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Jangizal
Caldari NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jangizal on 03/08/2007 09:49:01 Caldari Achura females ftw!
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Kalazar
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.03 11:32:00 -
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If they're rolling an alt they probably do. If they're new to the game then they probably roll Caldari because they're (or were at least, I haven't rolled a new char in a while) the first option people reading from left > right see and their background says "Rarrrgh! Military-like types!" ----------------------------------------------
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:53:00 -
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You mean, why people start (in the past 1.5 years) as ACHURA ?  Just look at the "new char" linky in the sig and you'll almost instantly realize why 
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Fireslake
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:13:00 -
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I rolled this character back in 2003 and just started back up...I have no idea why I rolled one. lol
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Ess Erbe
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:47:00 -
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I rolled Caldari because it's what I had tried in earlier trials and in the beta, and I was looking forward to using the Ferox, Drake and Rokh. I was also drawn in by the backstory.
If Amarr had gunmetal-coloured ships with navigational lights I'd have rolled them in a heartbeat.
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Nahno
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Posted - 2007.08.04 18:51:00 -
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I rolled Gallente because they can DANCE!!!!!!!!!
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.04 22:44:00 -
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Yes, I did it for the 3 charisma. Now I wish I hadn't, because a Minmatar-Brutor Male face is worth a lot more than the low charisma of the ugly and comical Caldari-Achura Male. ---
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Lord Loom
Loom Service Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.04 23:50:00 -
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contrary to popular belief I don't think most caldari rolled the race to min-max or to run missions in Ravens - at least I didn't, my first trial char was an Achura female, because she looked pretty (sue me) and because the Caldari background sounded good. Of course, I knew nothing about the game then, so how the flying **** was I supposed to make an educated decision?
ofc now some people do choose them to get quick access to a science alt, like some people picked Khanid simply for gunnery 5 with the RMR character creation, but I don't think that's a majority ---------- KEEP TRY!!!
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Enteris
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.04 23:54:00 -
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I get no love. Just wait until all my stats are in the 20s with 5/4 learning skills and +5 implants. 
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lyrenna
Caldari The Renaissance The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.08.05 04:39:00 -
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yup thats why we are surrounded by damn achuras every where.
ps. i didnt know the whole achura caldari issue, even i didnt anything about eve but i manage to make descent char by insicts(hmm per i was shooting with per in fallout so give 2 point to there, its space being smart is nice put 2 point, omg mem i have mamory of a fish in irl so 1 point to mem ) i get atracted bu big C of caldari with some fancy small but advanced military story and red icon of achura to, well that was another story.. i was chosed military soldier simply because i always love to play warrior in mmo's this ps was a bit of topic but...
=== when you armor tank a raven god kills a kitten. === |

lyrenna
Caldari The Renaissance The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.08.05 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Manic Smile yes, the informed ones
I've heard many initially rolled Caldari because they were the first option and decent looking/decent background.
yeah the evil fancy story about technologiacly advanced military force who has most battleships, and its true we have many ravens farming allaround eve
=== when you armor tank a raven god kills a kitten. === |

Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.08.05 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Wraith I was new to Eve and didn't know the impact of the attributes when I rolled Caldari 2 years ago. The back story on Caldari seemed to suit me best. I made the mistake of picking a career path (which is no longer an option) instead of doing custom (which is now the only option). My highest base attributes are the least useful two (Charisma and Willpower). But I'm too old to start over, and my other stats aren't that bad (23s with +5 implants).
you sir would do well for yourself in a command ship. or any other warfare linkable ship
well i made a new character the other day and looked at the descriptions
basicly says amarr bunch of religious people minmatar bunch of ex slaves gallente the only true democracy champions of freedom caldari ruthless military efficiency
my attributes aren't perfect, somewhat wish i could change them, but oh well they do me fine.
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Savage Creampuff
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.06 14:02:00 -
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I went with Caldari because after reading the background, I realized I wanted to be facist. Had nothing to do with the attribs.
Quote: I've sent in plenty of petitions but it seems that CCP just doesn't care about me. Without knowledge of market dynamics theres no way I can compete with these griefers
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Mujihi
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Posted - 2007.08.06 17:46:00 -
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I rolled achura because I read it was the "best" due to the low charisma, and the high other stuff... and because I fancied playing with missiles instead of lasers for a change. (kestrel is fun!) this however, is just for playing with till I get some úú to reactivate my main account 
my first is an amarr industrialist type, I chose because I fancied being a religious zealot with slaves and because he looks mean. my perception is crap, but at over 11mill sp there's no point stopping now! was created a long time ago too, before I the newish char creation system. 2004 I think. (yeah, not enough sp for that amount of time... I stopped for a while)
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.08.06 21:46:00 -
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Is it any surprise that the race with the ugliest characters also has the lowest charisma? ------------
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Patricia Bateman
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Posted - 2007.08.06 23:23:00 -
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you know, if you don't have the most SP's possible you will instantly fail at eve.
Everyone MUST roll Caldari Archura to do otherwise is folly!11111
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Ess Erbe
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Posted - 2007.08.06 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: FT Diomedes Is it any surprise that the race with the ugliest characters also has the lowest charisma?
Then again, Achura females are usually very pretty, well on par with the Deteis, and are "revered as teachers" or whatever it says in the description... so that 3 charisma really doesn't make much sense
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halykon
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Posted - 2007.08.11 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: halykon on 11/08/2007 17:08:49 I started about 3 weeks ago, and yes. I rolled Caldari because of 3 charisma. After doing some background checking on eve, it seemed like the only true choice, no matter what types of ships I wanted to fly, I could fully outfitted versions of them in less time with Caldari.
That being said, I'll probably fly with Caldari ships because after playing around some.. I've found missile combat an absolute joy compared to guns/lasers. I simply fits my playstyle.
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halykon
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Posted - 2007.08.11 17:10:00 -
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That being said, I'm going to fly Caldari ships because I've found missile combat jells well with my playstyle. Its an absolute joy compared to guns/lasers.
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David DarkLighter
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Posted - 2007.08.12 03:35:00 -
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Well I wont lie..... I didnt choose Amarr because of there "slavers" description. Since im african american....... that went GREAT with my race choice [DEFINANTLY NOT sarcasim] I didnt have any interest in gallente becuase of there [of french origin] no offense ment. So it came down to mimmatar or caldari. Im black so I was swaying to mimmatar but... after reading caldari description of MILITARY that was the sealed deal. And for the portrait you can look at for the next decade... Im thinking of swapping mines. I CANT stand this one :D even though its not the portrait that sums your char. I choose caldari because I wanted a combat char 9 perception + the bonus= 13 perception was a OK for me :D     
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.12 06:37:00 -
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Actually, now that I think back on it, my choice of Caldari was because of the backstory, and then my choice of Achura specifically was due to the attributes. I was attracted to the mega-corporation/fascist element of the Caldari. I was turned off by the quasi-ancient aspects of the Amarr and the freedom-love of the Gallente. I narrowed down my choices to Caldari and Minmatar, but settled with Caldari-Achura 'cause of the attributes. ---
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pi314159265
Caldari MetaForge Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.08.12 06:47:00 -
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Interesting view The Glorious Nation of Khazikstan... |

Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.12 12:22:00 -
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They probably do indeed, not that much point in it though, even the worst in the combat area ( hello me ) can still do pretty well for themselfs when given enough time.
I went for looks alone really. Although if I would have to make a combat alt now, it would probably be achura.
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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.08.13 11:25:00 -
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My first character was Caldari since the background sounded nice. Second and third were Minmatar and Amarr. Last was Intaki because I wanted to try out the Gallente intro missions - all on a trial account. When it was time to make the final character I was hard-pressed to decide between Amarr and Gallente because I liked their ship looks most. You see what I chose :)
Female because (don't laugh) the male Intaki looked too much like elves to me, and I was fed up with elves back then :)
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Monica Foulkes
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2007.08.13 12:36:00 -
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Proud Achura and soon with 30m SP in PVP skills. No idea why they seem so popular... 
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Prieith
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.14 03:59:00 -
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I think the leadership skill is underestimated. Had a commander with 8 mill SP in Leadership, and it was just mind blowing the bonuses we got with this guy and his gang assist modules.
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Cauchy Schwarz
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Posted - 2007.08.14 12:40:00 -
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in this aspect EVE is absolutely even-handed. if you want to go for a moderate skill bonus by picking achura, you have to live until the and of your days with the boring/ugly face of your char and your oh so awesome looking caldari ships. for me, that poor appearance and lack of style doest justify any 3 charisma in the universe :D. but no offence, it seems to be acceptable to MANY other players. some said, female achuras would look ok, maybe even quite pretty?! maybe if you like grey mice with tarry hair and unsexy clothing. some weird emo thing. if i see a achura portrait, the only thing which comes to my mind is "why is your life so unjoyful?".
female intakis still have very decent skills, fly racy ships and with 5 minutes patience of portrait creation, you get a goddess which is as good in bed as a achura in their raven.
especially with having seen transformers in cinema recently, you HAVE to love the MEGATHRON!! (although i prefer the hyperion in looks)
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