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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Hash Kakakin
the actual unit website with relevant contents are accesible by students and staff only.
Post the details of it here. I want to know exactly what it's asking you to do and if it pertains to what you're saying here.
And if you're trading to get this 6% per week either your sums are off or you're not looking in the right place. There are commodities out there where it's sustainable to trade at a return of at least 6% per day at the ISK volume you are talking about.
well to be honest i dont think i can make 6% per day
if you can then tell me how. if you dont want to then i cant see why your posting since if your making 6% a day then your obviously not interested in my investment offering
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Kitex
Caldari
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kitex on 09/08/2007 17:09:36
6% per week on a billion is entirely attainable, and actually not that difficult to exceed by a fair margin.
I think you've tried your best to answer most concerns. If you're scamming, at least you're putting some effort into it. I'm guessing you're legit, though I do question why you need to start in the billions rather than the millions.
As Ricdic mentioned, you'd have a far easier time securing 100m in investment capital than 1b. In this, EVE mirrors the real world. A new business with no collateral and no credit history will not qualify for a $1mil loan from any lender, but could qualify for a smaller loan in the thousands. It is high risk for a lender to invest in an unknown, and they mitigate that risk by not shelling out the big bucks until the unknown has established itself.
24 weeks is a long time in EVE to play the markets and rake in profits. I started with 20m in the market LESS than 24 weeks ago, and have already profited in billions.
Would your project be made any less valid by starting with 100m instead of 1b? Further, is the basis of your project just to work the markets and profit, or is public investment a required part of it?
If you're trying to impress your professor, percent profit on initial assets of 20m will actually be quite a bit higher than percent profit starting with 1b.
I'll probably be willing to help you reach a startup of 100m, but I dont quite see why you need to start so big to make the project valid.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Altair
well to be honest i dont think i can make 6% per day
if you can then tell me how. if you dont want to then i cant see why your posting since if your making 6% a day then your obviously not interested in my investment offering
The return doesn't matter that much, 6% per week is okay if that's what you can get and it's what you're offering. I don't invest in the EVE stock and bond market for the returns, I invest because I believe it's a truly unique situation we've got here and would like to see it flourish.
What matters is if you are doing this for the reasons you say you are and that you're not just going to run off with the ISK.
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Fury Banker
Fury Bank
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:09:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Fury Banker on 09/08/2007 17:13:05
What puzzles me is this:
You claim you understand the Eve economy - and gave a list of some of the important factors (though totally missing out one of the main ones).
If so, and you've been playing for 6 weeks, why haven't you made a billion profit yourself yet? I'm no economics student - but I'd made a billion before I'd been playing for 6 weeks, a lot of it from pretty casual trading (putting up buy orders for specific named items, then once a day maintaining my orders, every few days collecting the loot on afk autopilot and putting it up for sale at 100%-300% markup).
Within a week I was making 20-30 million profit per day just from that - for very little time investment.
The only capital i started with was 6 million ISK.
Wouldn't your thesis be better if you started with (next to) nothing - then you could also comment on how the % of profitability dropped as the amount of capital in use increased?
Your comment on how 6% per week isn't feasible on above 5 billion is also flawed - on at least two counts:
1. It's perfectly possible. I've been making more than 6% gross profits per week with Fury Holdings consistently on 15 billion+.
2. If you're not paying out your shareholders weekly then surely your capital is going to grow over 5 billion ISK - at which stage are you saying you won't be able to achieve your own target profitability? You do realise that you'd be holding over 19 billion ISK at the start of the 23rd week? So how would you be making 6% profit on that - given you've said it's not achievable on more than 5 billion?
EDIT: edited to fiz "million" where I should have typed "billion".
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:10:00 -
[35]
Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Catherine Altair
Edited by: Catherine Altair on 09/08/2007 16:39:41
Edited by: Catherine Altair on 09/08/2007 16:38:14
well there is nothing i could say but your right, if you consider 6 weeks to be a short amount of time then im inexperieced relative to 4 year-old 60M sp characters.
But really to say that my knowledge in commerce and economics is entirely inapplicable to EvE is a big disclaim.
to me, the only real knowledge one must know about EvE economy is mainly
-how items are generated : loots, productions
-how productions are performed : BPO from npc's, minerals mined
-how items are removed : destruction
-how isks are generated : insurance payout, bounty, npc commodity trading
-how isks are removed : tax, insurance fees, skill books, npc items
etc.
the main economy in EvE involves ships, modules, BPO's, minerals
really, im pretty sure i know how EvE economy work. i wont say im a leading expert, but i believe very strongly that i can work your investment to return 6% / week as i promise.
if you want me to answer your questions please be specific about it
about my credibility : well your right its rather hard to prove im not a scam. so if you have any mean for me to prove myself, please do so.
and i still consider myself to be largely experienced. while i wont be able to tell you the dps of a ship from its modules and your sp in gunnery or tell you your perfect tanking setup for taking certain rats in your bs. i know all i need to know that is relevant to my venture.
i learn very fast.
i still have much to learn and what i am doing is also an integral part to my learning as an investor. thats why im going to university.
im looking for people who would invest their knowledge as well, though i wont be able to pay you for any advice given :).
edit: i only need 1bil. and the reason i max at 5bil is because i dont think theres enough commodity on the market to make a return of 6% per week on more than 5 bil investment.
In your words comparing 6 weeks to 4 years doesn't really show economy student studies.
You can go to Law School, and study the exact same course as someone who has been practicing law for 20 years. And I would be money in a show down the the 20 years of experience would make you look like a fool even though at the start you both studied the same things.
Same for economy - With your mentality there is no difference between hiring a fresh from a Master of Business Degree as CEO, as someone who has been CEO for 30 years.
This line right here is why I posted the above - edit: i only need 1bil. and the reason i max at 5bil is because i don't think theres enough commodity on the market to make a return of 6% per week on more than 5 bil investment.
If you believe 5bil will get you 6% return per week because you'll have more commodity for sale vs 1bil you are not an economy student. In fact it's basic economics that whatever you're doing if you are planning a 6% return you're only going to get 6% no matter how much you start with.
If you can get 6% return on 5bil you should be able to get a 6% return on 1bil. The only reason you ask for more is to secure a 6% return and use your capital to compensate for your losses.
If you have 1bil used, that leaves 4bil left over to dividend which would give 14 weeks of buffer before you have to start using your sales.
to maximise profit i have to utilise all my capital. if i had 4 kazillion isks sitting on my wallet then i can suppose to buy the entire assets of EvE (assuming its all for sale for simplicity's sake) then if i sell it all at any price i can make at most the amount of isk total that non-me have. which is less than 6% of my 4 kazillion.
i wont be able to trade using more than 5bil.
and its very different. a nurse who works for 40 years still cant perform a surgery a fresh just-out-of medical school surgeon can.
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Fury Banker
Fury Bank
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Altair
if you dont want to then i cant see why your posting since if your making 6% a day then your obviously not interested in my investment offering
He would be posting because this is a market discussions forum - not the sell orders forum. If all you wanted was sales then you posted in the wrong place.
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:19:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Fury Banker
Edited by: Fury Banker on 09/08/2007 17:13:05
What puzzles me is this:
You claim you understand the Eve economy - and gave a list of some of the important factors (though totally missing out one of the main ones).
If so, and you've been playing for 6 weeks, why haven't you made a billion profit yourself yet? I'm no economics student - but I'd made a billion before I'd been playing for 6 weeks, a lot of it from pretty casual trading (putting up buy orders for specific named items, then once a day maintaining my orders, every few days collecting the loot on afk autopilot and putting it up for sale at 100%-300% markup).
Within a week I was making 20-30 million profit per day just from that - for very little time investment.
The only capital i started with was 6 million ISK.
Wouldn't your thesis be better if you started with (next to) nothing - then you could also comment on how the % of profitability dropped as the amount of capital in use increased?
Your comment on how 6% per week isn't feasible on above 5 billion is also flawed - on at least two counts:
1. It's perfectly possible. I've been making more than 6% gross profits per week with Fury Holdings consistently on 15 billion+.
2. If you're not paying out your shareholders weekly then surely your capital is going to grow over 5 billion ISK - at which stage are you saying you won't be able to achieve your own target profitability? You do realise that you'd be holding over 19 billion ISK at the start of the 23rd week? So how would you be making 6% profit on that - given you've said it's not achievable on more than 5 billion?
EDIT: edited to fiz "million" where I should have typed "billion".
my 6% is the minimum profit i can almost guarantee to make. and the reason i only want 5 bil because i believe that i can almost guarantee (i cant really guarantee can i?) to have 20+ bil in my wallet at the end of the 24 weeks period which includes that return on the 23rd week with about 20bil in isks.
so yes i expect to be able to make 6% on 20bil.
however if i take an investment of 10b say then at 23rd week i will have to return 6% on 40bil and i dont think i can work 20 bil.
as i said before if i have anything wrong or you do have suggestion please post. dont just be "oh your wrong." then end your post
thats like saying "i am god i just dont use my godly powers"
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:21:00 -
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i return all the money i make.
if i pick up the trade and really get it up and going and make 1trillion isks. i will payout 1 trillion isks to my investors.
and yes i have motivation to make as much as i can.
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:26:00 -
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i need 1 billion isks because otherwise it wouldnt be a significant sum. its like saying i can return 6% per week on your 10 bux. i use it to buy food and work 8 hours a day at a fast food place. weee...ireturn 400% a week!!!!!
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Takahashi Arran
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:39:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Takahashi Arran on 09/08/2007 17:41:42
Originally by: Hash Kakakin
what do your mean scribd? im not familiar with this technology please clarify and ill see if look through my pile of papers to see if i can upload some useful things.
www.scribd.com - like youtube for documents
I'm not particularly interested in useful things, more a broad selection of works analysis can be performed on to ensure your really who you say you are (which you probably are but you know how it goes :) )
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Fury Banker
Fury Bank
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:41:00 -
[41]
So how much have you made from Trading so far?
Are you planning to use your own ISK in the fund as well? Or is using other people's ISK to trade rather than your own required in some way for this to be valid?
Are you planning to buy and sell at the same station? If not, how are you planning to move your goods from purchase to sell location? You ARE aware of high-sec suicide ganking (though not on freighters any more)? Your OP gave the impression you were going to be hauling things around yourself - unless you're in some quiet back-water (in which case turning over 10 billion+ of stock in a week is pretty unlikely) you're going to either be making a LOT of hauling trips or get suicide ganked a few times.
Note: I DON'T think that you're trying to scam. I don't however, think you understand the logistics of dealing with trading on a largish scale.
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SencneS
Amarr
Balsarferskratchin Inc
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.09 17:44:00 -
[42]
He is getting hostile, admittedly my post was a little abrasive but warranted I believe.
Dude, What you are seeing here in this post is more experience then you'll get anywhere else. If this where in a real world asking a venture capitalist for even $50,000 then not willing to share you plan, reveal your identity, and not accept any criticism you'd be going no where.
This place has seen way to many scammers and everyone is highly skeptical of anyone new. To me your don't act like an economics student, and more importantly appear to be missing some fundamental bases of economics (at least from what you have said)
But there is one thing that is for certain.. getting hostile and ****y back will not get you any isk. Dude good luck if your not a scammer, get lost if you are. I'm done with this guy, take solace in knowing I will not be replying to this thread again.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.08.09 18:24:00 -
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"the main economy in EvE involves ships, modules, BPO's, minerals"
Well... this line is why I won't be investing.
Simply claiming you are experienced and smart is not enough. You have to back up your statements with past experience. You obviously have a very limited knowledge of EVE compared to most of the posters on this forum. You're coming in as a new player talking to people who have done what you're attempting to do for years now. It's quite obvious to the long time traders when a new guy is claiming to know more than he actually does.
To top this all off... your explanations as to why you are doing this and why you need 5 billion are becoming more and more confusing. At first I was willing to believe you. But I can't understand why you need 5 billion instead of just 1 billion. You say that it is more impressive to make 6% on 5 bil than 1 bil... which is true, but honestly how many people who do not play EVE would know the difference? Does your professor play EVE? If not then why would he not think 1 billion isk is a massive amount. I know when I've talked to people who I got to play EVE they were shocked when I told them I'd give them millions. They thought that was a lot and were even more shocked to know I had billions. So why exactly is 5 Bil so important instead of 2 bil or 1 bil or 500 mil or 100 mil?
Is this honestly for a school project? Be honest now... if you lie about this one then you're definitely not gonna get a penny from anyone. And before you answer remember that you've given your school and program code out (FINC4101). It would not be all that hard to contact your school to determine if someone in your program could indeed be doing such a project... or even to talk to professors involved in this type of program. Heck... there could even be someone on these forums that goes to UoS and may be able to personally ask a professor about this. If you are being completely serious about this then it would actually probably help your report if some random person came to your professor to determine your trustworthiness. It would show them that this is a very serious market.
I personally think this is either a scam or it is merely a bad investment. I have no confidence in the ability of the OP to make the kind of returns he thinks he will as he is clearly not very experienced in the EVE markets nor how IPO's tend to work and why people ask the questions we do in posts like this. He says he has incentives to work hard... but what are those incentives? Other than to scam away more money when this is over. He has no money invested and isn't taking a cut... so what is his incentive? I don't get it and I think it needs a real answer.
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BritishInvader
Amarr
Leela's Lamas
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Posted - 2007.08.09 19:02:00 -
[44]
Originally by: BritishInvader
I don't see this going well for you.
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Kilda Shepp
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Posted - 2007.08.09 19:38:00 -
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Quote:
a nurse who works for 40 years still cant perform a surgery a fresh just-out-of medical school surgeon can.
what a nub..
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.08.09 20:48:00 -
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you know... if he starts with no money, and ends up with 5 billion; then, he could show his prof how he made 5billion from nothing... |
Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.08.09 21:38:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Kilda Shepp
Quote:
a nurse who works for 40 years still cant perform a surgery a fresh just-out-of medical school surgeon can.
what a nub..
I thought that was an interesting comment he made too. Kinda putting himself on a pedestal as if he was trained as a surgeon while we're all trained as nurses with lots of experience.
Perhaps if he was able to make his own money without asking for handouts/investments he could try to claim he at least has some training... instead he has can only claim he has schooling without even the slightest idea if he even knows what a scalpel looks like is in real life (to run with the metaphor).
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BritishInvader
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.09 23:07:00 -
[48]
I called it, didn't I?
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Dark Assassin15
Gallente
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.08.09 23:37:00 -
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Well the reason i didnt believe it.. i read how he plans to do it. Left out a few very important things. Like game politics. 0.0 Entrances and knowing were pvp is, knowing were people would buy ships and mods. But well. O well it was a good forum read. And 6 weeks, was completely obvious.
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.10 01:01:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Catherine Altair on 10/08/2007 01:02:52
i only need 1bil to start but i will take as much as 5bil. i never said i need 5bil instead of 1 bil.
about experiece you are all right. i never claimed to be an absolute expert i just said i think i know enough to make the return i promise.
and my comment about the surgeon is not to say im trained as a surgeon but to show that the argument "experience is the only thing that matters" is not universally true.
and please if you think i need help, tell me so. tell me what i need to know and what you dont think i know. clarify it. say things like "your wrong because such and such".
not just your wrong.
and yes i will be hauling but i will never use AP so with warp to zero im sure i can align before someone locks and kills me.
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.10 01:41:00 -
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Edited by: Catherine Altair on 10/08/2007 01:41:27
Originally by: SencneS
He is getting hostile, admittedly my post was a little abrasive but warranted I believe.
Dude, What you are seeing here in this post is more experience then you'll get anywhere else. If this where in a real world asking a venture capitalist for even $50,000 then not willing to share you plan, reveal your identity, and not accept any criticism you'd be going no where.
This place has seen way to many scammers and everyone is highly skeptical of anyone new. To me your don't act like an economics student, and more importantly appear to be missing some fundamental bases of economics (at least from what you have said)
But there is one thing that is for certain.. getting hostile and ****y back will not get you any isk. Dude good luck if your not a scammer, get lost if you are. I'm done with this guy, take solace in knowing I will not be replying to this thread again.
i did not mean to be hostile but i was just trying to show people that questions and suggestions are welcome. but random self-promotion is not. please if you have anything that might be useful for me, post.
i dont understand this, my offer is either sound or a scam, judge it on its face value. what seems to be happening is people auto-assuming it will not work because unless your 2 years old in EvE nothing you can do can be successful and that im a scam because everyone that posts an idea like this is a scammer.
is this to show that my idea is not perceived to work or that everyone is auto-assume to be scammer.
please limit yourself to suggestion, advice and criticism only. dont post things like "nub" and/or your a ******** n00b because i have not been playing EvE since its inception.
i really want this to work.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.10 02:53:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Ricdic on 10/08/2007 02:55:15
Originally by: Catherine Altair
and my comment about the surgeon is not to say im trained as a surgeon but to show that the argument "experience is the only thing that matters" is not universally true.
You are asking us to entrust our hard earned money into you. Experience is crucial. Thinking you know the Eve economy after doing a few business courses, is like thinking you can pilot a 747 Jumbo after reading a PDF quickstart guide. This isn't to say that you cannot do a public venture, I am more than happy to help you with this, but don't expect such a large amount. Even 1b for a 6 week old character is far too much.
Do something like we done with Rawcola, he done a 300m IPO, or Rawblood, he done a 200m private bonds issuance. As has been repeated above, your professor will consider turning 200m into 2b just as good, as if it were turning 2b into 20b. The same percentages apply the numbers just look larger. And for someone out of game, it still sounds like a significant number.
I am sad this thread has somewhat turned into bashing because frankly, I don't think you are trying to pull a scam. However,I do think you are biting off more than you can chew, and your business is almost guaranteed to fail if you proceed with this 5b(or even 1b) request. Prove to us that you can successfully manage 200m, and you will find the public won't be so hasty to up the ante as their high-risk beliefs begin to drop down. Age of character won't ensure trust/respect, but proven public venture performance WILL.
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FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.10 02:55:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Catherine Altair
The only thing i had done was speculative trading of zydrine
right before Revelation 2 came out.
As if anyone needed any more evidence:
You "main" was born on June 21, 2007.
Revelations 2 was deployed on June 19, 2007
Case closed.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.08.10 05:35:00 -
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Typically the subject areas relate to securities market micro-structure, investments and corporate finance, as these are the areas in which the Discipline has expertise and supervisory skills.
I see Ponzi, who and how to, as a very worthwhile subject for an economics student. All it takes is one or two trusting souls to get started and you could snowball the whole experience into a good paper with little trouble. I could see all kinds of angles to demonstrate how "good governance, if applied at this juncture would've avoided" scenarios. (Not that it fulfills the requirements listed above but then I doubt Eve would fulfill that as Eve vastly oversimplifies economics. Especially regarding areas in the above course qoutation.) Bah, 6-8 weeks old and you are equal to an old timer? Arrogant and clueless, like many of those old timers. I'm not saying you can't get anything right just that the law of averages states that even the dumbest people get the right answer some of the time. And accidentally outting your own main... well that just whiff of ineptitude. Where there's a whiff in public the reek in private might qualify as stench. TBH I'm not even going to wish you good luck. You wouldn't even know what to do with that let alone 1 Billion or more of invested funds.
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.10 05:44:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Two step
Originally by: Catherine Altair
The only thing i had done was speculative trading of zydrine
right before Revelation 2 came out.
As if anyone needed any more evidence:
You "main" was born on June 21, 2007.
Revelations 2 was deployed on June 19, 2007
Case closed.
your right i must have mistaken.
but i did do some zydrine trade at the time of revelation ii.
i believe strongly that 1 billion represents a hallmark that will make my venture a serious one. while you might be right in saying that asking for 1 billion is too much, i will consider changing it if ,ore people agree. nontheless, i plan to link this thread in my final report. so you can see how you saying "hah they are not gonna know that 100mil isks is not much" doesnt help much if i were to decrease the initial investment amount to less than 1 bil.
additionally i would like to apologise for being rather impolite earlier. i didnt expect this level of skepticism from the public or the level of hashness certain responses are. i think this is the result of me conducting this on the internet and i should have expected it. and i think this will provide an interesting subject to write about how being on a virtual world affect diplomacy and negotiation.
when i came up with the idea of using EvE as a platform for my work, i sort of thought of myself as a pioneer of sort and i was very enthusiastic about doing this. to have people say bad things about me, dissing me idea and saying that i am "not good enough" was very agravating. though i should have kept my cool. what i thought was "if they can be rude to me i can too". which was obviously wrong.
i have learned much from just this thread already. i hope to learn more because EvE has much to offer. i hope some of you might see that and decide to give me a chance.
thank you.
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.10 05:47:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Quote:
Typically the subject areas relate to securities market micro-structure, investments and corporate finance, as these are the areas in which the Discipline has expertise and supervisory skills.
I see Ponzi, who and how to, as a very worthwhile subject for an economics student. All it takes is one or two trusting souls to get started and you could snowball the whole experience into a good paper with little trouble. I could see all kinds of angles to demonstrate how "good governance, if applied at this juncture would've avoided" scenarios. (Not that it fulfills the requirements listed above but then I doubt Eve would fulfill that as Eve vastly oversimplifies economics. Especially regarding areas in the above course qoutation.) Bah, 6-8 weeks old and you are equal to an old timer? Arrogant and clueless, like many of those old timers. I'm not saying you can't get anything right just that the law of averages states that even the dumbest people get the right answer some of the time. And accidentally outting your own main... well that just whiff of ineptitude. Where there's a whiff in public the reek in private might qualify as stench. TBH I'm not even going to wish you good luck. You wouldn't even know what to do with that let alone 1 Billion or more of invested funds.
i never actually said im an equal to an old timer.
i said i believe the experience i have from playing EvE thus far is enough for me to accomplish what i intend to.
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Apple Blossom
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Posted - 2007.08.10 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Altair
i believe strongly that 1 billion represents a hallmark that will make my venture a serious one. while you might be right in saying that asking for 1 billion is too much, i will consider changing it if ,ore people agree. nontheless, i plan to link this thread in my final report. so you can see how you saying "hah they are not gonna know that 100mil isks is not much" doesnt help much if i were to decrease the initial investment amount to less than 1 bil.
You've already received a thorough roasting from the regulars, so I will try and keep this friendly:
1. If you are really planning to link to this thread in your final report then write in complete grammatically correct sentences: capital letters, apostrophes, etc... Improving your professionalism will also help impress the skeptics here. It's superficial bs, but it matters.
2. Really, really listen to the people telling you to do this with smaller amounts of money. Your 'hallmark' figure for a 'serious' venture is pulled out of your ass. A serious venture for a 6 week old player != a serious venture for a 3 year old player != a serious venture for your Professor. Lower your request to 100M or so and no-one will care if you scam it or not. Come back in four weeks time with some profits, a professional report on your activities and a draft of your course report and I guarantee you will meet a much friendlier and generous bunch of people.
Hope that helps and good luck with your project.
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2007.08.10 07:03:00 -
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ok i'm going to chip in
go to bav with a freighter and buy and sell silicate glass in the same system it's instant profit without even leaving the system i'm sure it's possible to get a 6% per day increase since the npc orders never get filled.... or didn't for the 20mill i made from my 500k but damn it took a fair while in my bestower *kisses indie level 2*
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Catherine Altair
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Posted - 2007.08.10 07:34:00 -
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Due to suggestions from many players, I'm considering a two stage investment scheme.
For the first 2 weeks, I will ask for an investment of 200 millions. After this 2 weeks period, if I can generate a return of 6% compounded I will consider myself to have proven my management skill and at that stage, I will ask for a furthur 1 billion investment.
If I were to be proven incapable, I will payout all the money I would have made. This way, at most I will only tie up 200mil for 2 weeks.
Please comment.
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Heikki
Gallente
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Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Catherine Altair
i have an assignment .. Please comment
Before focusing on techinal details, could we clear one of the more important issues?
If I contact you privately, would you be willing to tell me
- Name and contact infor of the supervisor for this assignment (assumedly the professor)
- Your real name
- Your email address in the university?[/*]
Or instead of me, to some other reputable third party here
I could then check that you are indeed using the email (and hence registered to the school), and check with the supervisor you are indeed doing assignment like you described
I could understand why you don't want public post such address for spammers, but have yet to see university sending their students on real world assignment/research with ban on revealing supervisor's contact info.
If you indeed are interested in getting your assignment done, this is easy step : your skills and Eve-experience isn't that relevant.
-Lasse
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