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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON
Originally by: DarkElf
no offence but it doesn't really matter what u personally think. no it is NOT an exploit. It is however considered rather lame by most respectable corps so i wouldn't recommend getting into those tactics if you're trying to create a good rep for ur corp.
DE
Sorry darkelf but veto did exactly this on the old man star gate in ladistier only 5 days ago. but this was uber gank....no less than 15 pilots.
Call me a liar if you like, but i and a few others know what we seen
GRENADIER, Sorry but I gotta chime in here.
You've accused Veto Corp of pulling log in traps without any basis for accusation, no evidence and no consistant story.
Fact of the matter is that what you've said about us in the past week or so has been total crap. You've done little but flame everyone, at every opportunity you've had on this section of the forums for the last few days.
Those who deal with us know Veto Corp's stance on Logging off/Log on traps and know for a fact that we would be fifteen pilots lighter on the roster if what you were claiming was true.
Now, people also know from working with myself and my corp that I don't make false accusations and I back up EVERYTHING I claim with any evidence I can get hold of.
I have something to point out.
August 9th, Ladistier, 21:12 Eve Time (Approximatley), The same time you claimed we pulled a log in trap on you in that other thread?
Please Review This Video to see our gang travelling through Onne and Aeschee on our way to intercept yours, and waiting on the gate for you to jump.
Also please note the fact that yourself and best part of your gang LOG OFF IN COMBAT OR UNDER CLOAK AT THE GATE ON JUMP IN when you realise that we're there.
(we've included a slow motion close up of your ship (a Myrmidon) if you're in doubt of your actions to back up our point)
You're accusing people of things they haven't done in game and attacking corporations and people for no valid reason, then pulling the same type of lame tactics you're trying to lambast people for.
Don't take this as smack, because it's not. This is defense of my corp members. I don't sit idle and let people try to tarnish the corporate reputation we've spent almost two years building together as an ingame family of friends.
Sorry mate, but your double standards don't cut it and your completely transparent claims are blatent tripe.
Cold. Hard. Fact.
Veto. Together as one.
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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iiOs
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:49:00 -
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ohnoes
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Cosmo Cramer
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON
Originally by: DarkElf
no offence but it doesn't really matter what u personally think. no it is NOT an exploit. It is however considered rather lame by most respectable corps so i wouldn't recommend getting into those tactics if you're trying to create a good rep for ur corp.
DE
Sorry darkelf but veto did exactly this on the old man star gate in ladistier only 5 days ago. but this was uber gank....no less than 15 pilots.
Call me a liar if you like, but i and a few others know what we seen
GRENADIER, Sorry but I gotta chime in here.
You've accused Veto Corp of pulling log in traps without any basis for accusation, no evidence and no consistant story.
Fact of the matter is that what you've said about us in the past week or so has been total crap. You've done little but flame everyone, at every opportunity you've had on this section of the forums for the last few days.
Those who deal with us know Veto Corp's stance on Logging off/Log on traps and know for a fact that we would be fifteen pilots lighter on the roster if what you were claiming was true.
Now, people also know from working with myself and my corp that I don't make false accusations and I back up EVERYTHING I claim with any evidence I can get hold of.
I have something to point out.
August 9th, Ladistier, 21:12 Eve Time (Approximatley), The same time you claimed we pulled a log in trap on you in that other thread?
Please Review This Video to see our gang travelling through Onne and Aeschee on our way to intercept yours, and waiting on the gate for you to jump.
Also please note the fact that yourself and best part of your gang LOG OFF IN COMBAT OR UNDER CLOAK AT THE GATE ON JUMP IN when you realise that we're there.
(we've included a slow motion close up of your ship (a Myrmidon) if you're in doubt of your actions to back up our point)
You're accusing people of things they haven't done in game and attacking corporations and people for no valid reason, then pulling the same type of lame tactics you're trying to lambast people for.
Don't take this as smack, because it's not. This is defense of my corp members. I don't sit idle and let people try to tarnish the corporate reputation we've spent almost two years building together as an ingame family of friends.
Sorry mate, but your double standards don't cut it and your completely transparent claims are blatent tripe.
Cold. Hard. Fact.
Veto. Together as one.
I actually read this post in the other thread. There is only one thing to say for Mr. Simpson...
PWNED...
Verone ftw!
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Ask Unbeatable
Gallente HighTech Marines Ltd. FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:52:00 -
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<3 Veto
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Black Emper0r
Schola.
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:52:00 -
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Guess someone is about to quit EVE out of shame...
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jnky
Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:53:00 -
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Owned
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 13/08/2007 17:59:34 Edited by: DubanFP on 13/08/2007 17:57:46 log in traps. They +get kills +aren't considered an Exploit -labeled as lame by a few
WTF is the problem. They get kills through in-game means. Why do people label everything good that works as "lame". Log-in traps, using agression "station hugging", nanoships.
The entire point of PVP in this game is to get kills without loss. These things are the prime examples of this. If it works, isn't an exploit, and doesn't abuse people's gained trust over time "corp thieft" i say do it. _____________
DubanFP> Flying a capital ship without knowing what you're doing is sort of like wading into the middle of a minefield. You're doomed to die horribly, it's only a matter of when. |
Avaricia
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.08.13 17:58:00 -
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Epic thread.
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Vodun
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.13 18:05:00 -
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booyah.
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Beastoria
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.13 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Beastoria on 13/08/2007 18:38:40 First page
Oh and I love Veto ... they do everything they do with honours. Just like me --------------------------------------------------
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GRENADIERSIMPSON
Anti Pirate Inc THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.08.13 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: GRENADIERSIMPSON on 13/08/2007 18:58:23 Ok verone. First of all i did tell my squad to log off cloaked when we encountered your wall af red on the gate. Have i once said in any threads that my corp that i dont do this. NO!!!
I merely corrected dark elf on what he said. Now you can say allday long that you didnt do pull a log in trap after that till your blue in the face mate. When i logged back on nobody in system. This was confirmed by my cov ops pilot checking if it was clear. When i log back in all of a sudden at the same time your all back in system.
Now let me just say mate. It is not me that is coming on here lying ok. I tell the truth. Now have your vids of me telling my squad to log i dont care mate seriously i dont. What should i have done let all my squad die? Dont think so mate. Maybe i should of taken you all on and lost all my ships. 6 man squad vs 15+ gate camp. And dont give me ****e about honor and all that. Honor and respect is meant for real life ok, not a freeking game.
Now once again ive not lied once on these forums and still you say you didnt do what i said you did (log on trap). Now be a man and just admit it.
And also when have i called you or anybody for using these tactics??? Please point out when i have. I clearly reacted to a flase comment made by a veto corp member.
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Selbstopfer
Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:02:00 -
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How utterly pathetic.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON When i logged back on nobody in system. This was confirmed by my cov ops pilot checking if it was clear. When i log back in all of a sudden at the same time your all back in system.
Now once again ive not lied once on these forums and still you say you didnt do what i said you did (log on trap). Now be a man and just admit it.
Still incorrect.
Our gang was in the system the whole time. Your guys logged, as seen in the video. Several then died.
Our guys stayed in system, they saw you log back in then log a second time when you realised they were still there. You warped past them on the gate to the point of being 300km away then Emergency-warped while logged off away from the gate again before we could get anyone close enough to tackle you.
No one from our corp pulled a log in trap, plain and simple.
Jump in... ohnoes... logoffski under cloak to vanish in time (a few of your guys actually uncloaked and we got them agressed before they logged), then the old log in log out trick to make sure you don't come back to the gate.
It's laughable really given the fact you're picking on other people for borderline explot tactics on these forums.
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Major Dods
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON Edited by: GRENADIERSIMPSON on 13/08/2007 18:58:23 Ok verone. First of all i did tell my squad to log off cloaked when we encountered your wall af red on the gate. Have i once said in any threads that my corp that i dont do this. NO!!!
I merely corrected dark elf on what he said. Now you can say allday long that you didnt do pull a log in trap after that till your blue in the face mate. When i logged back on nobody in system. This was confirmed by my cov ops pilot checking if it was clear. When i log back in all of a sudden at the same time your all back in system.
Now let me just say mate. It is not me that is coming on here lying ok. I tell the truth. Now have your vids of me telling my squad to log i dont care mate seriously i dont. What should i have done let all my squad die? Dont think so mate. Maybe i should of taken you all on and lost all my ships. 6 man squad vs 15+ gate camp. And dont give me ****e about honor and all that. Honor and respect is meant for real life ok, not a freeking game.
Now once again ive not lied once on these forums and still you say you didnt do what i said you did (log on trap). Now be a man and just admit it.
And also when have i called you or anybody for using these tactics??? Please point out when i have. I clearly reacted to a flase comment made by a veto corp member.
Give it up, though im sure you can go lower.
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Lydia Browm
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON Edited by: GRENADIERSIMPSON on 13/08/2007 18:58:23 Ok verone. First of all i did tell my squad to log off cloaked when we encountered your wall af red on the gate. Have i once said in any threads that my corp that i dont do this. NO!!!
I merely corrected dark elf on what he said. Now you can say allday long that you didnt do pull a log in trap after that till your blue in the face mate. When i logged back on nobody in system. This was confirmed by my cov ops pilot checking if it was clear. When i log back in all of a sudden at the same time your all back in system.
Now let me just say mate. It is not me that is coming on here lying ok. I tell the truth. Now have your vids of me telling my squad to log i dont care mate seriously i dont. What should i have done let all my squad die? Dont think so mate. Maybe i should of taken you all on and lost all my ships. 6 man squad vs 15+ gate camp. And dont give me ****e about honor and all that. Honor and respect is meant for real life ok, not a freeking game.
Now once again ive not lied once on these forums and still you say you didnt do what i said you did (log on trap). Now be a man and just admit it.
And also when have i called you or anybody for using these tactics??? Please point out when i have. I clearly reacted to a flase comment made by a veto corp member.
Hang on here for a second, persume for a second this was a log on trap, they would have to have someone in system to tell htem when to log on and you yourself said no one was in system. ___________________________________________ Cookies if you hijack or sign my sig. There tasty... |
Killde
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:07:00 -
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So... it's okay for an anti pirate corp to use log tactics but not the pirates? I.... See....
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PCaBoo
Newbies On Xstacy
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:07:00 -
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I must say, i've never known of or heard of Veto pulling such a stunt. In-fact, in all of our previous engagements, we've had quite a pleasant time.
Veto has an impeccable track record, of which I even considered joining them.
Veto is in my top 5 of Honorable and effective Pirate corps. <3 (A close 2nd to Infod :p)
and no, DE didn't ransom me into posting this.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON Ok verone. First of all i did tell my squad to log off cloaked when we encountered your wall af red on the gate. Have i once said in any threads that my corp that i dont do this. NO!!!
I merely corrected dark elf on what he said. Now you can say allday long that you didnt do pull a log in trap after that till your blue in the face mate. When i logged back on nobody in system. This was confirmed by my cov ops pilot checking if it was clear. When i log back in all of a sudden at the same time your all back in system.
Now let me just say mate. It is not me that is coming on here lying ok. I tell the truth. Now have your vids of me telling my squad to log i dont care mate seriously i dont. What should i have done let all my squad die? Dont think so mate. Maybe i should of taken you all on and lost all my ships. 6 man squad vs 15+ gate camp. And dont give me ****e about honor and all that. Honor and respect is meant for real life ok, not a freeking game.
Now once again ive not lied once on these forums and still you say you didnt do what i said you did (log on trap). Now be a man and just admit it.
Let me just say, I don't lie, and if I am mistaken, and I have been in the past, I own up to it. As I did when I was mistaking some Vigil people for some other guys that we killed. Frankly, I was kinda hammered and it was late, and I was recalling a very similar but completley different bunch of pilots.
That being said, you're now having to clarify and qualify a statement that you made that appeared to be completely clear and watertight, but Verone has now shot all sorts of holes all through it.
Isn't that fun is it? Having to be a goddamn lawyer every time you open your mouth on the forums.
I could be a jerk and call you a **LIAR**, and go on and on about how you lie and you tell stories and blah blah blah. But I'm not going to, because I'm not an ass like that.
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Centinel 6
Amarr The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:11:00 -
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I am pretty new to this game. But in the year I have played, and MANY of those times side by side with VETO in various campaignes, I can say, for myself AND TBR I have never seen nor heard of VETO pulling "log in traps". I understand I am a "unheard of" in this game but I fly and have flown with these guys and I can honestly they hold to their rules and regulations. As a RL soldier, Honor applies to everything in life. Its your "word". It may not mean anything to some people, but to those who live by it and those who understand and respect it it means a lot.
C6
Quote: A Dagger In The Night Is Worth A 1000 Swords At Dawn
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GRENADIERSIMPSON
Anti Pirate Inc THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:12:00 -
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Ok so im blind then? And my cov ops pilot is?
Listen mate I havnt called you or anyone else for these tactics. this is what im trying to say. I havnt flamed you for pulling a log in trap all i have said is that you did. I know this and my squad know this.
So congrats on the video evidence of me logging off in cloak (which i have never called or denied). So call me all you like on here mate i havnt denied doing this. Although i will say this is the first time i have done it.
Im only sorry i wasnt frapsing at the time when i logged back on.
Incidently is it shown on your video 1 minutes after i logged? I will look now.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON Ok so im blind then? And my cov ops pilot is?
It would appear so, considering your covert ops pilot would have had to be as blind as a bat to miss the FIFTEEN RED FLASHING SQUARES waiting on the jump in for your gang, which jumped in oblivious anyway and proceeded to log off.
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Vodun
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:21:00 -
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Kind of just trying to save some face now aren't you?
I mean, it's clear that Veto has a number of supporters, and it's widely known that Veto are honorable pilots, but who are you?
I see you want to accuse a respectable corp and leader or doing something without any proof but your word, which, if anyone knew who you were might hold some weight, but the fact is, we all know Veto and Verone, and we know from expereience that they're quite honorable.
So imo, I would recommend that instead of making ridiculous accusations towards a respected corp, you just be on your merry way and believe what you wish to believe.
I don't think you'll find any supporters here, and the most you're going to accomplish by these tales, is more people are going to dislike you, as it's obvious they surely don't believe you.
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GRENADIERSIMPSON
Anti Pirate Inc THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:23:00 -
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I asked the cov ops pilot to come in from hevrice where another squad was busy with war targets. He was there a.s.a.p.
When he arrived he told me on vent its clear to log back in. I did only one red in system thenblam the blob was back. Now we can argue about this allday mate.
Also how did you know where we were coming from? just interested thats all.
And btw it was my scout in old man star that f*cked up and led us into your blob camp. Maybe i should question wether this was done intentionally. But thats another story.
Anyway i cant see this going anywhere as i cant prove you did what i said you did. My squad and cov ops and alliance know. thats all that matters.
P.S my alliance heads were not pleased with me telling the squad to log. But they werent in charge at the time i was!!!
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GRENADIERSIMPSON
Anti Pirate Inc THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:30:00 -
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To vodun above...
Im not after any supporters here. Im merely defending myself.
Also i keep hearing the words "RESPECT" and "HONOUR". My f*cking god those words are meant for real life family and friends. THIS IS A GAME!!!!!!
Fly Safe o7
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Solid Wilko
Minmatar Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:30:00 -
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I must say you have some huge balls. To accuse Veto of pulling a log on trap while at the same time boasting about how you told your squad to log to keep them alive
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON Also how did you know where we were coming from? just interested thats all.
It wasmy scout in old man star that f*cked up and led us into your blob camp. Maybe i should question wether this was done intentionally.
Lets just say we knew where you were coming from. If you want to question why you were lead into our gang, please feel free to do so, that's not our issue.
Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON P.S my alliance heads were not pleased with me telling the squad to log. But they werent in charge at the time i was!!!
It's for your alliance leaders to decide on their policy. If one of my pilots made that call, he'd be in Caldari Provisions hauling Wheat and Livestock to Jita for a living by now.
Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON My squad and cov ops and alliance know. thats all that matters.
What your alliance thinks of us doesn't really matter after the display you showed in that engagment. We held a fair amount of respect for The Vigil until their members started publically lambasting us with fabricated crap and logging off in combat.
Next time you want to take a swipe at someone, make sure you're telling the truth and you can back up what you're saying.
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Vodun
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Vodun on 13/08/2007 19:36:33
Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON To vodun above...
Im not after any supporters here. Im merely defending myself.
Also i keep hearing the words "RESPECT" and "HONOUR". My f*cking god those words are meant for real life family and friends. THIS IS A GAME!!!!!!
Fly Safe o7
I'm not sure where you learned english but the definition of both, respect and honor, apply to anything in life. Just because you're playing a game doesn't mean you cannot respect another player, and it doesn't mean said players don't play with honor. I think you're being a little one-sided in your views. Just because it's a game doesn't mean the words stop having meaning.
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GRENADIERSIMPSON
Anti Pirate Inc THE V I G I L
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:43:00 -
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Im not sure where your from then mate but in my life respect has to be EARNED. If people can earn your respect from a spaceship game then...i dont know. Good luck.
Also Honor cannot be achieved over a computer. Once again if you feel it can then you are sadly dis illusioned.
Thats all i have to say about that. If someone can tell me im wrong then do it!!!!
Fly safe o7
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Zachariah Barnette
Caldari DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Zachariah Barnette on 13/08/2007 19:49:29 I heart Veto
/me waves
Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON Im not sure where your from then mate but in my life respect has to be EARNED. If people can earn your respect from a spaceship game then...i dont know. Good luck.
Also Honor cannot be achieved over a computer. Once again if you feel it can then you are sadly dis illusioned.
Thats all i have to say about that. If someone can tell me im wrong then do it!!!!
Fly safe o7
This explains a lot from our engagement lastweek.
Originally by: T'Renn In Soviet Heimatar, gate camps you.
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Vodun
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.13 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Vodun on 13/08/2007 19:48:28
Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON Im not sure where your from then mate but in my life respect has to be EARNED. If people can earn your respect from a spaceship game then...i dont know. Good luck.
Also Honor cannot be achieved over a computer. Once again if you feel it can then you are sadly dis illusioned.
Thats all i have to say about that. If someone can tell me im wrong then do it!!!!
Fly safe o7
Before you make more of a fool of yourself, may I recommend you look up the definition of both words (dictionary.com works well). Comprehend the meaning of the words before commenting again, otherwise you'll just be digging a bigger hole.
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